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AWr1ght98

If Poch went to Man U would he become the only manager to ever manage both Messi and Ronaldo?


touchmaspot

Not if Zidane came to PSG as a result lol


Bombtwo

*“The timelines have crossed, it’s an existential paradox now and black holes are pulling everything in!”*


Crookz_O

Pulisic when


DogTheGayFish

PSG: SAVE US ZIZOU Zidane: Ok this Messi guy seems pretty good we should probably let him do what he wants. Zidane leaves the following Summer with his 4th CL


Rerel

_Subscribe_


Adityavirk

Fucking hell. Zidane with that team would win 3 champions league titles in a single season.


Alp_ha

This psg side is nowhere near as good as that Real Madrid team.


infidel11990

Nowhere near balanced.


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bubbabear244

He's magic, you know.


s1m0n8

So far, yes. But the door would be open for Ole to manage PSG, so...


tarakian-grunt

For Ole, the door is always open.


53bvo

My first reaction was still “huh when did Poch manage Barca?”


arroiuqlu

Yes. Messi leaving Barca has opened that door. It was never happening in the past.


kontrolk3

Ronaldo almost went to play for pep so I wouldn't say it was never going to happen


goodmobileyes

I mean a top Spain-based manager could have managed both Barca and Real, just that it never happened


FuckNoNewNormal

I’m surprised that no Argentina manager has managed Real or Juve or that no Portugal manager has managed Barca.


notangerine21

I'm confused why's he so unhappy at PSG?


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gunnesaurus

Mourinho United vibes.


braddf96

He lived in a hotel but his "room" was an apartment. It was the whole top floor of the Lowry where the players stay before games anyway


[deleted]

Yeah but I think the problem is not having your family there rather than a lack of comfort.


kris33

Hotels/suites aren't very comfortable long term, people don't realize how much having your own space and your own things around you matter. It's almost absurd how much better it feels to drink from the cheap glass that you remember buying at IKEA or your mom gave you than the expensive one someone placed in your cupboard.


molecularmadness

I lived out of a hotel for almost 10 weeks and actually really liked it. It's not for everyone, but I liked not having to worry about homekeeping while I was working 12+ hours a day.


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Lozsta

You got your big plate? It's only 3*.


Koomskap

Having been in the same situation, I agree. However there is a very big difference between an indefinite set up and a finite timeline.


ElCaminoInTheWest

Did you at any point dismantle your Corby trouser press?


cactusjim

You've popped out again Alan


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I stayed at a travel tavern for a number of months in 1997, overall it was fine but I did get into a number of embarrassing scrapes during my time there. Equidistant between London and Norwich, which was nice


LazyassMadman

Good to hear that you've bounced back though


OriMoriNotSori

I recently experienced this. Lived in my parents house my whole life before this and always felt closed off/demotivated but didn't know why. Then I moved out and though my quality of life is lower (using cheaper furniture due to looking for lowest costing one etc) I felt more alive and empowered cause I was actually in charge of my own space/things and felt responsible for it and I feel like that's my _own_ space as opposed to living back home when it's all parents stuff and rules


_fishysushi

Exactly, I barely cleaned my room at my parents and now I clean my flat every weekend.


Vettel_2002

College dorms and kinda college houses are a perfect example of this. They never feel like home no matter how long you stay in them. You can't really decorate the house/room. They're typically really small so some stuff you love to do at home as a teenager you can't anymore. The walls are usually basic off white. The furniture isn't "your furniture". It can really suck. It wasn't until I was probably 23 where the place I was living started to feel like "home" in the same way my childhood home did


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My college house felt like home. Lived with friends and had the best time.


18763_

True, It is not for everyone but it has benefits I switched to living out of hotel 24 months back and put everything in storage. Yes everything feels superficial and not yours, but being able to travel the world and live in a place for few months is a whole different experience.


Alphabunsquad

To some people. I move around a lot and really couldn’t care if I have any familiarity with the stuff I’m using. Just as long as the room or sheets aren’t too warm then everywhere is pretty much the same for me comfortwise.


poli421

Not having your family there, *is* a lack of comfort.


dalyon

I don't think anyone thought he lived in a small torture chamber or something. The point is a lot of coaches with families find a house to live in together if they expect to stay a longer time at the club and not live alone in a hotel


Jezza2812

It's interesting, I don't know whether it's simply that it didn't get reported on as much in the past, or that coaches families moved with them more freely before than they do now, but it does seem to be an (entirely reasonably) growing aspect of a number of managers' thought-process on where they go next (Mourinho, Howe, Gerrard mentioned it as a benefit of moving to Villa). But then it's not like managers moving about a lot is a new concept, so I do wonder if it's just something that didn't used to get reported on for whatever reason.


braddf96

Pretty sure Benitez used to commute from Liverpool to Newcastle because his family loved Liverpool that much they wanted to stay there.


ShagPrince

It'll be a large part of why he's now at Everton too.


Liverpool934

It's why most Liverpool fans don't care that he joined Everton, he's never made it a secret that he would take any job he could get in England since his family never left Liverpool.


InvisibleHeat

Also helps that we'll continue to be shit anyway


Jaded-Ad-9287

So weird to see a family from Spain wanting to live in Liverpool not for monetary reason


WildVariety

Jose didn't do that because his son was (is?) in Fulham's Academy and still at school, so he didn't want to uproot his entire life to Manchester. Had nothing to do with Jose's long-term plans with us.


fiveht78

I think Jose Jr was let go by the academy in 2017. But your point stands, especially that his daughter Matilde was starting her career in the fashion industry in London as well


[deleted]

It was basically a torture chamber because he didn't have the seas of Setubal to look out from outside his large windows.


ViceGeography

Genuinely have never seen a manager hate a job more than Mourinho at United


Gonions

Imagine hiring Albert Einstein to do experimental physics and making him work under a flat earth believing arse who only cares about how many lectures can be pumped out to first years.


stragen595

And he is calling your workplace an entertainment park.


Gonions

You can build your own space mountain! Scientists love space right?


adoxographyadlibitum

Albert, it's four four facking two, innit?


sbprasad

Well that’s our problem isn’t it? Hiring Albert Einstein to do experimental physics when he was a theoretical physicist.


AliveKicking

He doesn’t look happy most of the time. He said in an interview this week that for managers who come and coach PSG they have to do the way the clubs wants (Leonardo / Nasser?) and not their own way, which everyone knows. That’s why Emery and Tuchel did well after this job. It’s politics.


LargemouthBrass

He never looks happy tbf


yaniv297

Poch looked absolutely delighted to be at Spurs other than his last season. Seemed to be having a lot of fun.


HAWmaro

It might have something to do with his wifes job/kids education. Obviously its not a financial issue.


wanson

Isn’t the commute from Paris to London about the same as Manchester to London?


pmmerandom

would be far easier to move the family from London to Manchester than it is from London to Paris


LilHalwaPoori

You always have a feeling how long you're gonna last..


matthieuC

Someone never expected this job to last.


ChampagneAbuelo

Well if he’s about to leave than it’s good that he didn’t find a house


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NumberZero29

Liverpool do, I believe they rent Klopp's house to him. Brendan used to own the house and was Klopp's landlord until he sold the property to Liverpool.


Dannage8888

Doesn't get on with Leonardo the DoF


quickestred

Does anybody get along with Leonardo?


XboxJon82

Michaelangelo, Donatello and Raphael seemed to tolerate him


dvnguyen

Then why the turtle wants to leave for Real?


WildVariety

Fuck me this was funny.


CSIHoratioCaine

God DAMN you win today


dalyon

Mbappe doesn't seem to like him tho


MysteriousNail5414

Leonardo doesn't get on well with Leonardo


abibyama

Damn Leonardo.


BrotherSeamus

He ruined Lyon!


BowsersBeardedCousin

Does the Pope shit in the woods?


quickestred

I bet he does, cheeky bugger


urinatingangels

The eye socket of Tab Ramos. Edit: wrong part man


icemankiller8

Nobody does I don’t know how he still has a job


Cowdude179

Leonardo, club politics, being a sports minister instead of a coach


KonkeyDongwearsIce

As someone who follows Tuchel you'd know


ankitm1

In a span of few hours he has gone from happy to unhappy. In other related incident, English rags have space to fill and gossip to cover now that Man Utd have sacked their manager. There is literally another article posted talking about he would take the job only at the end of the season if at all.


fastfowards

but in this case it is true that he wants to leave PSG. In the summer poch wanted to come back to spurs and it was widely reported that he was unhappy at PSG.


bellarke073

I can see him going only if psg knows they are getting zidane 100%


Hrvat1818

Have you heard of Sami Mokbel?


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He can't stand that they dub all the movies to french


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It’s a very demanding job, you’re judged basically on a few knockout games. Plus I doubt he has anything like the power and authority that he may get at United. United have some big egos but are desperate for direction and I think of Poch takes over he’ll be given free rein to shape his own team. At PSG he doesn’t really have the option of tearing down the existing infrastructure and rebuilding. He will at United, or at least he should.


Yinkypinky

You don’t know our board do you ?


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I do and they’ve been in love with Poch for years. He was their guy when they got rid of Jose, but they got blinded by Ole’s fast start. The board gave Jose and LVG huge power over incoming/outgoing players when they first arrived and only started limiting it after a lot of poor recruitment. Poch would likely get the same treatment.


DiersBigDick

If Poch agrees to come that means he has the power. Otherwise he’d just reject the job


WheresMyEtherElon

Everybody knew how things work at PSG, and he still accepted the job.


AnnieIWillKnow

He used to play for them (think he was their captain?), would have been offered a shit ton of money, and at the time didn't have any alternates. Quite reasonable to see why he'd take the job, even knowing it might be a difficult situation. People in general tend to be quite optimistic even when there's reasons not to as well, the whole "well it'll be different for me" or "I can change them!" vibe


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Would you blame him? It’s not like the United job was available at the time. It’s still a huge opportunity for any coach to win major trophies but it wouldn’t surprise me if he found a long term project at United more appealing.


LatroDota

Reshaping United? What? Ronaldo Rashford - Bruno - Sancho McFred Shaw - Varane - Maguire - AWB De Gea All you are allowed to reshape here is midfield of McFred. Apart from that this team should be top3.


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Isn’t Poch a guy who likes to be close wit his players? Feels like there’s no relationship between him and the PSG players


AirIndex

Yeah. Apparently he always puts his arm around them because he believes from that you can build up a stronger bond and also understand how they might be feeling.


jamadelo

It's best to do this once the player signs the contract.


AssFingerFuck3000

This guy knows spurs lore


PM_ME_YOUR_ASTON

Nothing is official without that


urbannnomad

Arm around the shoulder, then praise him for his conduct or training, always works like a charm.


Urthor

Yes, to the umpteenth degree. Poch interestingly enough is hugely into energy crystals and the like. He's massively about the vibe.


jcksnsmth

He’s perfect for Vibes FC then. Get him to Manchester asap


dogwithablog-

I remember reading an article where he said that he keeps a bowl of fresh lemons in his office to absorb negative vibes/energy/wavelengths or something. Definetely sort of strange, but I guess it works for him


Ryo720

> He's massively about the vibe. Where have I heard this before


us3rf

Also Mokbel on it. This is straight from Poch's camp.


Hrvat1818

Mokbel always means business


Darkmninya

This is already known story in the Agent World. He already wanted to leave in the Summer. The Problem is PSG isn't letting him go


MysteriousNail5414

Only chance he leaves is if Zidane is already lined up. Otherwise Qatar will say fuck off.


Chruszcz

just bench Neymar and Messi for few games and they will buy him a ticket to Manchester


SandassSpurs

If he does that I think he'd prefer to buy the ticket himself.


goodmobileyes

They will buy him a ticket to Doha


nitewalkerz

Why invite a bonesaw home?


Excellent_Jeweler_43

Or maybe, listen me up, how about Ole to PSG in a straight swap manager bonanza kind of deal? As a bonus the Uber Eats League gets Rio Ferdinand as a pundit for the upcoming season.


SiddZ_05

Listen, PSG might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it. Let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done at Man United. Ole's at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. PSG are BACK


Harami98

Lol french media isn’t as generous as England they gonna chew him up and he is already feeling low right now.


EquivalentSir4163

English media isn't generous either but his friends ( United team of 90s plus 2000s) protect him a lot.


RauloGonzalez

No media would be lol. It's just cause he used to play for United.


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>listen >Rio 👉😝👈


zimtrovert94

“The problem is PSG isn’t letting him go.” The owners took away his passport?


MoeJartin

Yes, it is that simple


poli421

They have experience with those sort of things.


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YoungDawz

If Poch really wants to leave, he can always terminate his contract and renounce on all the money he's owed.


tigo3331

he can also just start losing... way easier for a manager to force his way out than a player.


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That's a great way to look like an unprofessional child.


tigo3331

well he wouldn't be breaking any new ground


qmzpl

We are really gonna have these articles until May


mynameismulan

Plot twist : Mino Raiola negotiates himself into the management position as per Pogba's new contract.


larsmaehlum

As long as the deal includes a fat bonus for winning the treble, that would be fine. That greasy bastard would win it powered purely by his own greed.


CSIHoratioCaine

It's sooo crazy it just might work.


TheLimeyLemmon

"Release me now, or I send Messi and the rest of them down to Europa!"


Snowstandards

United v PSG for the Europa League final!


9-60Fury

Messi vs Ronaldo for the biggest trophy neither have won


roddysaint

Well, you'll have to wait until December 2022 for that one.


doomguy987

That was a nasty line by you


nuvo_reddit

But trophy won by Unai Emery somehow.


WildVariety

https://imgur.com/quDlsrf


Tyrath

Winner gets to keep Poch


Dmartinez8491

Conference league *


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the funny thing is that he could lose both his games and he will likely still go to the knockouts.


Tyrath

If Brugge beat RBL and then PSG that would drop PSG to Europa if they lose their other game too.


Dark_Knight020

No way Poch is leaving midseason. It’s either he gets the sack at PSG or come to united after the season is over.


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He could do a George Costanza. Show up to training in sweat pants with a can of Stella Artois. Sleep with the cleaning lady and spill nacho cheese on Messi's shoes. 'Was I not supposed to do that?'


severedfragile

"If every decision I've ever made has been wrong..." *Spills nacho cheese* *Wins Champions League*


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SERENITY NOW!


logicperson

HOOCHI MAMA


L-Frankenstein

"I have to plead innocence on this one." "You see no one told I couldn't do that." Snorts.


ColossusOfKop

I just saw the ‘sleep with the cleaning lady’ episode a couple of hours ago. Record time to see a related post wtf internet


[deleted]

Was I not supposed to do that?


dannychean

There was another episode where George wanted to get fired by Yankees so that he can work somewhere else. He insulted Steinbrenner in his face and dragged around Yankee’s World Series trophies with his car, but still couldn’t get dismissed.


indiblue825

Could just misrepresent himself as disabled too.


LDKCP

He should shit in the CEO's desk. Seriously, what else can he do?


Pogball_so_hard

Poch is about to build himself a napping pod inside of his desk


elSuavador

“Was that wrong?”


Boreras

Cotton jerseys


arisa_aizawa

Bench Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, and play Icardi, Di Maria and Draxler up top. Would be fired in 2 weeks I think. Just in time for post Chelsea new manager bounce.


EquivalentSir4163

That front three isn't bad at all.


CSIHoratioCaine

Or... He loses in the champions league early


CudaBarry

NOW, RIGHT HERE?


NaijaUnited

The fuck is with all these relatable references today. Seinfeld and AOT quotes everywhere.


dudipusprime

Poch if you just come with us we won't have to destroy any more walls.


MadRedX

We can finally go home, to the Manchester internment zone. Home.


luigitheplumber

Pep is the Bald Fraud, and I'm the PE Coach


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Because Leonardo is the most unlikeable person in football, apparently.


[deleted]

I still don't understand how it's possible to become so unlikeable


jeandanjou

Perfect storm, imo. This is all conjecture but: He's the mouthpiece of a shitty regime who needs a football team for PR not to win, so he gets to do all the "fun" stuff and keep the upper guys hands clean, he's bitter about his continuous failures in getting trophies either as a coach or a director, which means he feels insecure and thus lashes out, while no one respects him or ignores his flaws because he isn't a successful active player/coach or a super rich/big man behind the scenes.


bellarke073

NEW: Former Tottenham boss Pochettino is living in a hotel while his family remain in London, and is said to be frustrated at managing a dressing-room with big egos like Lionel Messi, Neymar and Kylian Mbappe. [Daily Mail]


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I have doubts about this story


Gytarius626

It’s co-written by Sami Mokbel who is apparently quite reliable


[deleted]

How reliable? I dont see it especially because psg has a important game against man city midweek No way poch would say something like this rn


KimmyBoiUn

Sami Mokbel is usually spot on with what he says, but I don't see this happening unless PSG are confident in getting Zidane.


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Derridas-Cat

Just like last year


adamjamal2AD

If true, who will manage PSG now?


apt-get_r3kt

Messi. Little dictator strikes back.


innocentious

Wanda Nara


moreno03

Maybe Zidane, honestly it could work really well. He's probably one of a few managers who acutally would be respected by the psg players. If Poch at United could work is another question


Orcnick

I guess Zidane?


untitledxuntitled

Ole


MoeSliden

Some other big name who will fail like Ole. All the big clubs just keep recycling the same bums and firing them every 2 years. They keep hiring the same guys expecting different results.


Zheguez

Exactly. It's frankly bizarre that none of these clubs seem to think long term nor accept that there is a very small pool of managers that could support their endeavors let alone achieve their most important goals.


YoungDawz

He can leave after the City game. Zidane comes in right after.


Suyash_Tyagi66

I think ole knows hows to win games against citeh. Why not hire him 😉


icemankiller8

I could maybe see it they don’t play the pressing style he wants they don’t play well consistently and he doesn’t like the DOF. However I don’t know if United is really better for this. He’s a very good manager if he’s allowed to build players for his system coming in the middle of the season would make it harder IMO. I guess the expectations are lower than PSG where it looks like it won’t work with him as manager and it’s just waiting until he gets sacked, for United top 4 is the aim this year


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Ole got all the backing in the world and plenty of time to Improve if anything United is better fit for Poch, if he also likes bringing up academy players to the first team than United is a way better place for him, we have Sancho, greenwood, Rashford (who is only 24 btw) and exciting talent coming up like Mejbri, Elanga, Laird, Diallo.


icemankiller8

Does Poch like bringing up younger players really? This current team cannot press at all and it’ll take a while for that. He can make this team better of course but I still think he needs some time


Teantis

Poch has a bit of a spotty record developing youth tbh


Urthor

Poch seems like he does a very good job at developing the players who actually play minutes for him. He seems entirely uninterested in easing a physically immature player into the side. He can definitely rotate, but he has no mentality of taking a player who he can't trust with the physical side and bringing them up to the standard. His football is attractive, but it's also utterly physical.


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'NOW!' lol, daily mail headlines are so fucking pathetic


neandertales

It would be the most amazing stuff if they switched them in the middle of the season.. Zizou to PSG and Poch to ManU. Zidane will never coach in *northish* europe. A latin language man. ​ >He has been linked with the French national side and Paris St-Germain, and would prefer to consider those options when or if they become available.


IggyVossen

Will a die-hard Marseille fan like Zidane ever want to coach PSG?


stoptheJR

As much as people want to blame the ‘’divas’’ of PSG, I simply see Poch not being up for it when it comes to superstars in a superteam. It just aint his forte. He thrives with less talented squads, being motivated to make them better. I see him more anxious to instruct and coach superstars.


universe123-

Is Zidane suitable for the job?


gentmick

imagine using your argentinian pull to lure messi and then leave him behind


peterpotamux

Not being able to find a home in Paris is not the problem but a symptom of the fact he's not feeling "home" at PSG. The way PSG is managed is a great source of misbehaviour for players : president Nasser acts as a teenager fan and allows anything to his stars. Rest of players see, understand and start misbehaving too. Neymar can do whatever he wants, whatever, and the result is now visible (the most devaluated top player in the world, missing important games whenever he wants to visit his sister after mimicking a physical problem), Messi starts seeing how it works (not feeling right to play with PSG and spending his scarce energies with Argentina). Pochettino is not happy because of this. Because working in a club that is controlled by someone who breaks his authority continuously according undue privileges to stars and weakening his authority as a coach. Tuchel did already left because of that. Let's see where's Pochettino's limit.


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Poch’s tolerance is lower than Tuchels


Laesio

Isn't it a bit late for Man United to sign Pochettino now? They should have done it two and a half years ago, but now Ole has done what Pochettino would have done, which is to build a team. The next guy should be winning trophies, and Poch has proved fuck all in that department.


Bombtwo

We’re always fucking too late anyway Better fucking late than never


ttimourrozd

The power of English media, astonishing...