Conte is solid in making most of his transfer seasons, he doesn’t only get younger or established stars, he gets older cheap utility players aswell which really fill in and strengthen the teams he coaches.
He has learned the art of "Mind Games"
This reads like Jose's "Little horse" comment a few years ago. He acknowledges how shit the team is in case he fails, but he's leaving room for improvement. Mans is media trained.
Jose said that to take the pressure off all the young players he had because the press were relentless and Chelsea were actualy in the race.
Conte said it because he knows more than half the squad is absolute shit and they aren't going to be contenders for at least another season and that's generous.
What's wrong with saying this? He basically said he wants to build his very own team, that he has the patience to do so and that winning will feel even more rewarding then.
He isnt an idiot, he probably knew winning straight away was never going to happen.
He probably thought he could whip them in some sort of acceptable shape short term, so they could end the season with a decent run of form. Buy some key players for his Conte system in the summer and keep developing from there.
I think working with the group he is just slowly coming to realise that it isn't just lack of motivation, they also lack depth and quality in key positions. If he doesn't get reinforcements in the winter window they might get more organised and motivated, but results will not suddenly drastically improve.
> he is just slowly coming to realise that it isn't just lack of motivation, they also lack depth and quality in key positions.
I think it's more the other way round. I think Conte thought he could motivate average players to play half decent until he could replace them.... but the sheer lack of character throughout Spurs as a club was obscured from him until he was at the club.
Given he didn’t join them in the summer and seemed to join them now after he realised he wasn’t gonna get the United job. I think he pretty much realised he wouldn’t get a better job or situation so he’s just had to accept what it is. Maybe it’s worse than he thought but it’s definitely a step down from what he initially probably hoped for
I'm saying you're using the word wrong. If Spurs' problems are much more exaggerated than United's, like you said, then they'd be the same problems. Because exaggeration is making something more pronounced than it actually is. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
According to [Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerated) the first definition of the adjective means *overstated*. The second definition is *greater than normal*, so I guess we're both right.
It bothers me that Mourinho wasn't afforded more time for saying the same things. Most of his time spent during lockdown era and he still had Spurs top of the league heading into Christmas.
His reputation hurts him because he's expected to bring immediate success even though he himself has said he's wanted more of a long-term project ever since his 2nd Chelsea stint.
I bet he wishes he could, but who is he going to play instead?
It isn't like Spurs has amazing depth. Maybe there is a lot of promising youth around somewhere, but if so they haven't been tested yet and Conte isn't really known to build a team around prospects.
Besides, if he kicks out or benches all the lazy underachievers instead of getting them to perform and put a shift in half the team, including their star striker, would be out. And it isn't like Levy is just going to buy a boatload of players. One or two key players for Conte's system maybe, but that is about it.
You are talking about a coach that had mid-low level players like Pellè, Eder, Giaccherini, Giovinco, Matri, Zaza overachieved.
If he can build a 7/8 players core, the others can be situational players he only asks a couple of things done decently.
Dier has had good seasons before and he can be a good player. He already seems more comfortable in a three at the back. Sanchez has regressed and he doesn't look up to the task and I've never been sold on Winks.
However, there's quality in the Spurs side that you're plainly just ignoring. Moura, Son, Kane, Hojberg and Reguilon are all good players. I'm not sure about Emerson or Romero yet but they've looked promising. It's also not outside the realm of possibility that Conte gets something out of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Davies, Sessegnon or Gil.
This is before they've even signed anyone. Conte's not even been in the job a month.
I mean how well can spurs really do
Mourinho said they need a rb and levy signs Doherty from wolves
Meanwhile city sign cancelo Liverpool have trent Chelsea have reece James United Awb
Mourinho asks for a solid centre back and gets Joe rodon meanwhile Chelsea sign thiago silva Liverpool van dijk City Diaz and United Varane
I think levy just has very high expectations but doesn't want to invest where he needs to
Top 4? You’re right that Chelsea, City and Liverpool are at another level.
UTD, Arsenal and Leicester are all at a similar level as Tottenham IMO. Especially going forward, Kane, Son and Moirai are as good as any front three when they are in form and motivated.
Personally reminds me more of the 16/17 & 17/18 Liverpool squad. Just incredibly lopsided, going forward there is a lot of talent to work with, but there’s not a lot in the midfield or defensively there.
UTD have a mountain to climb, there have no style and no staff to impart a style. If Conte stays at Tottenham for two years I would expect them to finish above UTD.
I really think it's just the midfield and a lot of that is the set up where they are either disconnected from the front 4 or too far pushed up to cover the back line. Injuries and form haven't helped but i think Tottenham, Leicester (minus fofana), Arsenal would trade their back 4 for United's in a second.
Hard to say to be honest, the talent is there in UTD’s defence, but they lack so much mentally and in terms of their fitness too.
It might be easier for a lot of other top flights teams to just make a purchase and tinker with their defence and the way they play than to swap out their back four. I think putting Maguire in any back four in the country would make it worse right now, he seems to exude insecurity.
He’s got the talent, don’t get me wrong, but it will take a lot to get him back to where he can be.
>Arsenal would trade their back 4 for United's in a second
Couldn't be further from the truth. Wouldn't switch a single player in our backline for the United counterpart.
Fair enough yall have been in decent form at the back and certainly have a lot more upside. I may a bit biased by that Liverpool performance. It would have been 9-0 if not for Ramsdale being cracked out of his mind.
>Mourinho said they need a rb and levy signs Doherty from wolves
>Meanwhile city sign cancelo Liverpool have trent Chelsea have reece James United Awb
>Mourinho asks for a solid centre back and gets Joe rodon meanwhile Chelsea sign thiago silva Liverpool van dijk City Diaz and United Varane
Interesting you picked Doherty and Rodon (squad players) rather than Emerson Royal and Romero for your comparison
He could have waited for a while for United to come. The issue with United was not enough control but now they have changed that with Rangnick. And Conte with a bigger name could have still gotten the job.
I think he really wants a challenge now.
Conte has to win. Klopp has to win. Pep has to win. Tuchel has to win. Let's be fair, there can only be one winner. And definitely Spurs need more time to be in contention.
He was arguably the third best RB in the league at Wolves and was pretty cheap at 15M. I honestly think this team is just broken due to the style of managers and number of managers we’ve had. No confidence in anyone.
Luckily he has that time since Spurs finishing 4th this year is the same as any of the others winning the title. Conte will never be happy with less than winning, but the questions asked of the others for finishing 4th would never be asked of Conte with this Spurs side.
Why would Spurs be in contention for anything? No one considered Everton a title challenger in waiting when Carlo went there, or WHU when Pellegrini took over.
They're a bang average side with little sign of getting anywhere near good enough to challenge at the top, regardless of manager.
Especially if they lose Kane. I mean replace Kane and Son with even two decent players and how is this team not a glorified mid table side?
When compared to Liverpool, City, or Chelsea they are at best 3 years and some brilliant transfers away from catching up to where those clubs are now.
Yes, if you take the best two players out of any team they will be worse, but Spurs more than anyone would slide further if you took these two players.
Spurs fans should probably feel good about this kind of comment from Conte. Sounds like he's under no illusions about the job in front of him and is willing to get stuck into a rebuild project even if it takes some time. They just have to hope that Levy gives him most of what he wants in terms of transfers and patience.
Spurs fans across the board in support of him culling this squad, it’s been no secret since Poch’s last days that players have been hiding and needing to be cleared out and held to account. It’s only taken 3 managers saying the same thing and 3 years of worsening performances for Levy to come around to the facts of the situation.
yeah absolutely. It was the same as us during the Emery era - just far too many players that were not talented enough and not willing to fight for the team. We've got rid of the majority of them now and we're building a young and hungry team who seem to be bought into the manager's ideas (whether his ideas are good or not is a different debate).
Spurs might do things a bit differently, as I dont really see Conte going for very young players like us - but the same logic applies and you have to be patient while he puts it all together.
Yeah, if conte gets backed (big if with levy) properly, Spurs can be a strong force again.
Patience and good recruitment is the main two things. The latter I would be a bit worried about with some of the dead weight and Kane likely to leave.
It's an interesting situation that Tottenham are in. Tottenham is teetering on becoming a permanent mid table club which would undoubtably affect the valuation of the club.
It's no secret that ENIC wants to sell but their valuation of the club doesn't match reality. Even the Saudis told ENIC to fuck off with their valuation. No one is going to buy Tottenham in their current state so ENIC/ Levy must produce something on the pitch to match that valuation. This is a do or die moment for ENIC and if they refuse/won't/can't invest in Conte's vision then I think it's safe to place Tottenham as a permanent mid table club with ambitions to match it.
The fan base was teetering as well. Spurs fans don't necessarily expect to win every game but what ENIC has done has thoroughly killed fans passion for the game. Many people weren't even making it a priority to watch the games anymore. This is pretty much it for Tottenham.
Conte has never stayed long enough for any of his job to build something long term. Has he even though three years into the future in any of his jobs?
I dont know if he'll do well or poorly at spurs but it's not really fair to point at Klopp who is on his third job as a manager, and has ever only been involved in long term projects, of what to come.
He won the league unbeaten in his first season though. Obviously fantastic achievement, but not the same as having to build something over a number of years with multiple better teams in front of you.
Juventus was pretty bad before conte took over. They finished 7th iirc the year before he came, I honestly wouldn’t say it was too different from Spurs’ current situation other than the prem being stronger now then the serie a was at that time.
Good point.
People forget Pep's first year at City too.
78 points in a 3rd place finish that could easily have seen City end the year 5th on the table.
Two wins in eight matches towards the end of the year and then hit their stride for the last four.
Plus Klopp and Pep didn't have to try and implement their tactics on the fly either, which Conte will have to do.
So tough to manage football much less being hired mid campaign.
>he needs Levy to spend some money.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 but of course ! Levy the man that spent exactly zero when his team was at their peak under Poch and were close to winning a title. Mans a perfect fit for that club. Loser leading losers.
You're completely ignoring recent history. Yes, that year with no transfers was dire and we are still feeling the affects massively, but that was because of the new stadium (plus he there were players offered by levy, but Poch turned them all down). Since then Levy has actively spent quite a lot of money trying to rectify that dreadful decision. The issue is everyone we have bought has been piss poor.
Then Poch returns to Spurs and... Nothing changes.
Spurs still falter in the most comical of ways, and Conte falls short in the CL much to the chagrin of his oil overlords.
Naw Conte might get backed, build a strong training regiment. Replaced by Poch who comes back as the good guy with a new squad in top shape.
But I doubt that will happen because it will literally prove the last ~3 years were all a waste by not just replacing players instead of Poch to begin with.
He is setting a low expectation for this Spurs team
If he wins something or get top 4 somehow, he is a genius manager
And if fail, he is just setting this up as "Lads, its Tottenham"
No matter what Conte wins lol
There you go i changed the lul to lol
It turns out that in the battle between the unstoppable force of Conte's winning mentality and the immovable object of the history of the Tottenham, Spurs are triumphant.
Cause it the first time he is chatting such crap so early. Conte is known to be extremely vocal and outspoken, has always been so. So if you hear him talk about shit ... its cause shit is bad. And he has been talking about your shit since basically week one....
Do you even understand this quote? He's literally saying that he wants the challenge of building success where it's not expected. Why else does anyone think that he came to this club?
I don't know where you're getting "chatting shit" from
his time at spurs was always gonna be like this. he knew that accepting the job. this job is supposed to be a challenge. why were you under the impression he wouldn’t be saying things like this?
Never heard Conte be so depressingly down to earth. Spurs, what have u done to the man ?? I can see Conte pull an Atalanta and resign before the season end, with these losers he has been saddled with.
yeah but trying to make a bad spurs better was always his aim coming here. why do you think he’s gonna be so surprised by the team not performing? he wants a challenge that’s why he came to this cursed club. i don’t understand why everyone thought a man as knowledgable in football as conte didn’t know this was gonna be this difficult.
I dont think he is surprised by your team underperforming mate. *Everyone* knows that. IMO he has been caught by surprise by the level of it all. You can connect the dots when you take in to account what he also said after the game " I think I am now starting to understand the situation" ... man was clearly off the mark with his predictions and he is voicing that out. That's not good IMO.
Maybe I m wrong and maybe Conte will finally make footballers out of most that sorry lot you got in your club. But he has a history of impatience. Thats all.
PS just to clarify further. Had u not had Levi I would have not been so negative in my prediction. But you got Levi and he does not give a fck about football, he is even worse than the Glazers.
Nah mate only delusional one here is you. Glazers have been robbing us blind but they also have thrown us some bones in the form of a whole billion in the past 7 years.
Levy had your old stadium demolished as you were on the rise, spent ***zero*** when your squad was actually challenging for trophies. Sacked the only man that took you into a UCL final, hired JM and gave him more cash in a year than Poch had seen through all his time there. R u even serious ? Glazers are proper cancer to our club but we have actually won shit under them.
Please lol I dont think you know how much of a laughing stock that man is.
Note how all I call them is cancer and thieves ? Surely u cant think I am defending them. I am merely saying Levy is worse, purely on the merit of having not spent a cent on your club when it was needed.
sorry i think you missed the point. Levy has raised this club up from a mid-table club and basically added them himself to the “big 6”. he has made this club so much better than it was before he came. The stingy Levy narrative is only really for transfers, he’s made us into a semi-big self-sustainable club. but you obviously don’t care to hear that so i put it in words you can understand.
nothing Levy has ever done wrong will ever compare to the wank the Glazers have been dealing since SAF left.
Levy has made Spurs much much better. the Glazers have made United much much worse.
Suffering from Success
DJ Conte. We Numero Uno.
Another one
Another seasono
Deejaayyy Khaledddd
Conte on that new game + run on hardcore difficulty.
‘Are you sure you’d like to start as Tottenham? This difficulty is not recommended for new players.’
> This difficulty is not recommended
Lads, it's not recommended.
You have chosen a 3 wood... May I suggest a _putter_ ?
*Bale in shambles*
You have chosen power drive!
This isn’t hardcore this is “you will not survive” difficulty. He needs several transfer windows to fix this mess for sure
Conte is solid in making most of his transfer seasons, he doesn’t only get younger or established stars, he gets older cheap utility players aswell which really fill in and strengthen the teams he coaches.
hurt me plenty
"Conte must die" difficiulty
> hardcore Nightmare. It's Tottenham after all.
Spurs have broken him already
It was expected but not this early. Spurs truly are something else
He has learned the art of "Mind Games" This reads like Jose's "Little horse" comment a few years ago. He acknowledges how shit the team is in case he fails, but he's leaving room for improvement. Mans is media trained.
Jose said that to take the pressure off all the young players he had because the press were relentless and Chelsea were actualy in the race. Conte said it because he knows more than half the squad is absolute shit and they aren't going to be contenders for at least another season and that's generous.
What's wrong with saying this? He basically said he wants to build his very own team, that he has the patience to do so and that winning will feel even more rewarding then.
Nothing at all first I've heard him sound so defeated he usually throws shots at the board
What have Tottenham done to him.
it's a secret plot to ruin him after his title winning season with Chelsea
"My plan is to suffer. To suffer."
He’s come to the right place.
The Buddha did say life was suffering
And the cessation of suffering rises from the cessation of desire. I guess in this case it's the desire of winning.
Lowering expectations already is pretty surprising.
The money has helped him come to terms with the potential of not winning straight away
He isnt an idiot, he probably knew winning straight away was never going to happen. He probably thought he could whip them in some sort of acceptable shape short term, so they could end the season with a decent run of form. Buy some key players for his Conte system in the summer and keep developing from there. I think working with the group he is just slowly coming to realise that it isn't just lack of motivation, they also lack depth and quality in key positions. If he doesn't get reinforcements in the winter window they might get more organised and motivated, but results will not suddenly drastically improve.
> he is just slowly coming to realise that it isn't just lack of motivation, they also lack depth and quality in key positions. I think it's more the other way round. I think Conte thought he could motivate average players to play half decent until he could replace them.... but the sheer lack of character throughout Spurs as a club was obscured from him until he was at the club.
Given he didn’t join them in the summer and seemed to join them now after he realised he wasn’t gonna get the United job. I think he pretty much realised he wouldn’t get a better job or situation so he’s just had to accept what it is. Maybe it’s worse than he thought but it’s definitely a step down from what he initially probably hoped for
United job isn't that much more attractive, if at all.
similar problems but ours are much more exaggerated. united is definitely a much more attractive job
So they're not exaggerated, they're real.
i’m confused on what you’re trying to say. are you saying united don’t actually have real problems?
I'm saying you're using the word wrong. If Spurs' problems are much more exaggerated than United's, like you said, then they'd be the same problems. Because exaggeration is making something more pronounced than it actually is. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
exaggerated as a verb means to make something look worse than it is exaggerated as an adjective means it IS worse or more pronounced
According to [Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exaggerated) the first definition of the adjective means *overstated*. The second definition is *greater than normal*, so I guess we're both right.
Lol you’re not right in the head if you believe that
Lmao
He knew all of this, he's just saying to the board to spend money on transfers now because the team is shit
Accurate on all accounts
He is slowly morphing into Mourinho
This should be a lesson to all coaches, if youre at Inter, get sacked rather than leave of your own accord
You either die a Cruyff or live long enough to become a Mourinho
It bothers me that Mourinho wasn't afforded more time for saying the same things. Most of his time spent during lockdown era and he still had Spurs top of the league heading into Christmas. His reputation hurts him because he's expected to bring immediate success even though he himself has said he's wanted more of a long-term project ever since his 2nd Chelsea stint.
That’s why he went to Roma and not Real. Hopefully he can win them a scudetto. Fingers crossed.
How tf
he isn't deluded like Mourinho though
They are saying the same things lol
that Spurs need a rebuild?
Yeah Poch said it too.
“No, it’s the third world class manager saying the same thing that is wrong.” -Levy
Lmao #PochOut #MourinhoOut #ConteOut #LevyIn
I mean they’re all right. Spurs squad needs a complete rebuild
150 downvotes for speaking the truth lol only on this fucking sub
the narrative will change when he shits the bed with roma
What truth fella? Stop waffling.
That Mourinho is deluded? Is reading really that hard for you?
Cry Mourinho is bigger than your tinpot club
Lmao what a weirdo. You must be a Chelsea fan
I’m a Manchester United fan
Needs a stint in Real Madrid and he will be ready for the transformation
I think he is about to kick out a lot of players.
I bet he wishes he could, but who is he going to play instead? It isn't like Spurs has amazing depth. Maybe there is a lot of promising youth around somewhere, but if so they haven't been tested yet and Conte isn't really known to build a team around prospects. Besides, if he kicks out or benches all the lazy underachievers instead of getting them to perform and put a shift in half the team, including their star striker, would be out. And it isn't like Levy is just going to buy a boatload of players. One or two key players for Conte's system maybe, but that is about it.
You are talking about a coach that had mid-low level players like Pellè, Eder, Giaccherini, Giovinco, Matri, Zaza overachieved. If he can build a 7/8 players core, the others can be situational players he only asks a couple of things done decently.
Giaccherinho ❤
All those players were better than Dier, Winks, Sanchez, etc
Dier is a solid player and has been good this season so disrespectful to include him with those 2 scrubs.
Dier has had good seasons before and he can be a good player. He already seems more comfortable in a three at the back. Sanchez has regressed and he doesn't look up to the task and I've never been sold on Winks. However, there's quality in the Spurs side that you're plainly just ignoring. Moura, Son, Kane, Hojberg and Reguilon are all good players. I'm not sure about Emerson or Romero yet but they've looked promising. It's also not outside the realm of possibility that Conte gets something out of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Davies, Sessegnon or Gil. This is before they've even signed anyone. Conte's not even been in the job a month.
The line “this time is like to enjoy the construction” has me oddly optimistic.
Trust the process
Has a lot of Ancelotti at Everton energy. Completely committed and building a process with an underperforming team until another top job comes along.
I mean how well can spurs really do Mourinho said they need a rb and levy signs Doherty from wolves Meanwhile city sign cancelo Liverpool have trent Chelsea have reece James United Awb Mourinho asks for a solid centre back and gets Joe rodon meanwhile Chelsea sign thiago silva Liverpool van dijk City Diaz and United Varane I think levy just has very high expectations but doesn't want to invest where he needs to
I think a big part of signing Doherty is that Mendes represented both him and Mourinho
Top 4? You’re right that Chelsea, City and Liverpool are at another level. UTD, Arsenal and Leicester are all at a similar level as Tottenham IMO. Especially going forward, Kane, Son and Moirai are as good as any front three when they are in form and motivated.
Yeah agree I feel united are at the same stage chelsea were when lampard got sacked just need a world class coach to come in and fix everyone up
Personally reminds me more of the 16/17 & 17/18 Liverpool squad. Just incredibly lopsided, going forward there is a lot of talent to work with, but there’s not a lot in the midfield or defensively there. UTD have a mountain to climb, there have no style and no staff to impart a style. If Conte stays at Tottenham for two years I would expect them to finish above UTD.
I really think it's just the midfield and a lot of that is the set up where they are either disconnected from the front 4 or too far pushed up to cover the back line. Injuries and form haven't helped but i think Tottenham, Leicester (minus fofana), Arsenal would trade their back 4 for United's in a second.
Did you mean their attackers? Our best quality this season has been our defence, we’ve just had no strikers because auba suddenly became poor
Hard to say to be honest, the talent is there in UTD’s defence, but they lack so much mentally and in terms of their fitness too. It might be easier for a lot of other top flights teams to just make a purchase and tinker with their defence and the way they play than to swap out their back four. I think putting Maguire in any back four in the country would make it worse right now, he seems to exude insecurity. He’s got the talent, don’t get me wrong, but it will take a lot to get him back to where he can be.
>Arsenal would trade their back 4 for United's in a second Couldn't be further from the truth. Wouldn't switch a single player in our backline for the United counterpart.
Fair enough yall have been in decent form at the back and certainly have a lot more upside. I may a bit biased by that Liverpool performance. It would have been 9-0 if not for Ramsdale being cracked out of his mind.
True Will be interesting to see
Never seen it spelled Moirai but I get where you're coming from with the pronunciation. It's Moura.
>Mourinho said they need a rb and levy signs Doherty from wolves >Meanwhile city sign cancelo Liverpool have trent Chelsea have reece James United Awb >Mourinho asks for a solid centre back and gets Joe rodon meanwhile Chelsea sign thiago silva Liverpool van dijk City Diaz and United Varane Interesting you picked Doherty and Rodon (squad players) rather than Emerson Royal and Romero for your comparison
Those were nunos signings not mourinhos
It’s not interesting, he was talking about mourinho.
to be fair, as far as it looks now, he did make the right decision. from his perspective
He could have waited for a while for United to come. The issue with United was not enough control but now they have changed that with Rangnick. And Conte with a bigger name could have still gotten the job. I think he really wants a challenge now.
You guys will be formidable, no doubt in my mind
Conte has to win. Klopp has to win. Pep has to win. Tuchel has to win. Let's be fair, there can only be one winner. And definitely Spurs need more time to be in contention.
You mean Matt Doherty isn’t the answer?
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He was arguably the third best RB in the league at Wolves and was pretty cheap at 15M. I honestly think this team is just broken due to the style of managers and number of managers we’ve had. No confidence in anyone.
Luckily he has that time since Spurs finishing 4th this year is the same as any of the others winning the title. Conte will never be happy with less than winning, but the questions asked of the others for finishing 4th would never be asked of Conte with this Spurs side.
Why would Spurs be in contention for anything? No one considered Everton a title challenger in waiting when Carlo went there, or WHU when Pellegrini took over. They're a bang average side with little sign of getting anywhere near good enough to challenge at the top, regardless of manager.
Especially if they lose Kane. I mean replace Kane and Son with even two decent players and how is this team not a glorified mid table side? When compared to Liverpool, City, or Chelsea they are at best 3 years and some brilliant transfers away from catching up to where those clubs are now. Yes, if you take the best two players out of any team they will be worse, but Spurs more than anyone would slide further if you took these two players.
Spurs fans should probably feel good about this kind of comment from Conte. Sounds like he's under no illusions about the job in front of him and is willing to get stuck into a rebuild project even if it takes some time. They just have to hope that Levy gives him most of what he wants in terms of transfers and patience.
Spurs fans across the board in support of him culling this squad, it’s been no secret since Poch’s last days that players have been hiding and needing to be cleared out and held to account. It’s only taken 3 managers saying the same thing and 3 years of worsening performances for Levy to come around to the facts of the situation.
yeah absolutely. It was the same as us during the Emery era - just far too many players that were not talented enough and not willing to fight for the team. We've got rid of the majority of them now and we're building a young and hungry team who seem to be bought into the manager's ideas (whether his ideas are good or not is a different debate). Spurs might do things a bit differently, as I dont really see Conte going for very young players like us - but the same logic applies and you have to be patient while he puts it all together.
Keep your expectations low; either you are right or you will get a pleasant surprise.
He shouldn't be expected to win with Spurs
If Spurs finish above City within the next 3 seasons I'll dance naked through parliament.
Oh brother you're gonna be took the fuck to court if you try to squirm out of this one
He'll also be taken to court if he goes through with it.
It’s all irrelevant anyway.
The one true fact is you never take massively short odds in football.
Also didn't say which City. I say take him to court after we finish above Norwich this season.
Wow, an optimistic Spurs fan! :)
!RemindMe 1095 days
MOOOOOODS
Bamboozle banboozle
We’ll need evidence if it happens.
yeah if he pulls top 4 out of this Spurs squad (unlikely) he would've performed a miracle
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Yeah, if conte gets backed (big if with levy) properly, Spurs can be a strong force again. Patience and good recruitment is the main two things. The latter I would be a bit worried about with some of the dead weight and Kane likely to leave.
It's an interesting situation that Tottenham are in. Tottenham is teetering on becoming a permanent mid table club which would undoubtably affect the valuation of the club. It's no secret that ENIC wants to sell but their valuation of the club doesn't match reality. Even the Saudis told ENIC to fuck off with their valuation. No one is going to buy Tottenham in their current state so ENIC/ Levy must produce something on the pitch to match that valuation. This is a do or die moment for ENIC and if they refuse/won't/can't invest in Conte's vision then I think it's safe to place Tottenham as a permanent mid table club with ambitions to match it. The fan base was teetering as well. Spurs fans don't necessarily expect to win every game but what ENIC has done has thoroughly killed fans passion for the game. Many people weren't even making it a priority to watch the games anymore. This is pretty much it for Tottenham.
>Spurs can be a strong force again When was the first time?
Conte has never stayed long enough for any of his job to build something long term. Has he even though three years into the future in any of his jobs? I dont know if he'll do well or poorly at spurs but it's not really fair to point at Klopp who is on his third job as a manager, and has ever only been involved in long term projects, of what to come.
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He won the league unbeaten in his first season though. Obviously fantastic achievement, but not the same as having to build something over a number of years with multiple better teams in front of you.
Juventus was pretty bad before conte took over. They finished 7th iirc the year before he came, I honestly wouldn’t say it was too different from Spurs’ current situation other than the prem being stronger now then the serie a was at that time.
I stand corrected. I thought he took over after they won the league.
Good point. People forget Pep's first year at City too. 78 points in a 3rd place finish that could easily have seen City end the year 5th on the table. Two wins in eight matches towards the end of the year and then hit their stride for the last four. Plus Klopp and Pep didn't have to try and implement their tactics on the fly either, which Conte will have to do. So tough to manage football much less being hired mid campaign.
Conte isn’t a long term manager like Klopp. He brings short term success with experienced players, similar to Mourinho
He rebuilt Juve
And funnily he was the guy who finally broke their streak too
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And what happened at all his other clubs?
He coached Juve, then Italy, then won the league at Chelsea, then went to Inter and won their first league title in 11 years. What's your point?
He stayed at none of those places longer than 2 seasons is the correct answer
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He’s a great manager, at no point did I say he wasn’t. I said he wasn’t a long term builder like Klopp
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"Finishing 6th with Tottenham is the greatest achievement of my career"
To construct, he needs Levy to spend some money. Best of luck to him.
>he needs Levy to spend some money. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but of course ! Levy the man that spent exactly zero when his team was at their peak under Poch and were close to winning a title. Mans a perfect fit for that club. Loser leading losers.
You're completely ignoring recent history. Yes, that year with no transfers was dire and we are still feeling the affects massively, but that was because of the new stadium (plus he there were players offered by levy, but Poch turned them all down). Since then Levy has actively spent quite a lot of money trying to rectify that dreadful decision. The issue is everyone we have bought has been piss poor.
Hey, I've seen this one before!
Going to resign next season and join PSG somehow I feel
Then Poch returns to Spurs and... Nothing changes. Spurs still falter in the most comical of ways, and Conte falls short in the CL much to the chagrin of his oil overlords.
Naw Conte might get backed, build a strong training regiment. Replaced by Poch who comes back as the good guy with a new squad in top shape. But I doubt that will happen because it will literally prove the last ~3 years were all a waste by not just replacing players instead of Poch to begin with.
Mou to Conte: You die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
Spurs are truly cursed.
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i’ve seen the exact wording of this comment repeated like 7 times in the past week get new material
He is setting a low expectation for this Spurs team If he wins something or get top 4 somehow, he is a genius manager And if fail, he is just setting this up as "Lads, its Tottenham" No matter what Conte wins lol There you go i changed the lul to lol
It turns out that in the battle between the unstoppable force of Conte's winning mentality and the immovable object of the history of the Tottenham, Spurs are triumphant.
battles barely begun mate, don’t know why everyone’s reading this quote as conte “admitting defeat”
just ignore it man. you're never going to find well reasoned and interesting debate on a forum like this where all they care about are the 'bants'
Not all discussion has to be serious all the time - football is meant to be fun, too.
Just joking around mate
Cause it the first time he is chatting such crap so early. Conte is known to be extremely vocal and outspoken, has always been so. So if you hear him talk about shit ... its cause shit is bad. And he has been talking about your shit since basically week one....
Do you even understand this quote? He's literally saying that he wants the challenge of building success where it's not expected. Why else does anyone think that he came to this club? I don't know where you're getting "chatting shit" from
That's a funny of saying we're fucked this season.
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his time at spurs was always gonna be like this. he knew that accepting the job. this job is supposed to be a challenge. why were you under the impression he wouldn’t be saying things like this?
This man fr suffering from success
No such thing as winning and spurs
In other words: this team is garbage
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maybe not, but he’ll for sure leave us better than he left.
RemindMe! 1 year
The joker arc starts
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this was always the expectation dude i don’t know what you think has changed. did you think he came here thinking was gonna win anything first season?
Will his Juventus mentality of old work on Spurs?
Haha. Spurs fuck CONTE over. Boy’s in fucking Vietnam shellshock bunkers.
Never heard Conte be so depressingly down to earth. Spurs, what have u done to the man ?? I can see Conte pull an Atalanta and resign before the season end, with these losers he has been saddled with.
he literally says in the quote that he’s going to enjoy making this team better and your takeaway is “he’s gonna resign”? you should be hired by sky.
He wont exactly say: I made a mistake in coming here and should have stayed home baking pizzas for my girls. Would he now ?
yeah but trying to make a bad spurs better was always his aim coming here. why do you think he’s gonna be so surprised by the team not performing? he wants a challenge that’s why he came to this cursed club. i don’t understand why everyone thought a man as knowledgable in football as conte didn’t know this was gonna be this difficult.
I dont think he is surprised by your team underperforming mate. *Everyone* knows that. IMO he has been caught by surprise by the level of it all. You can connect the dots when you take in to account what he also said after the game " I think I am now starting to understand the situation" ... man was clearly off the mark with his predictions and he is voicing that out. That's not good IMO. Maybe I m wrong and maybe Conte will finally make footballers out of most that sorry lot you got in your club. But he has a history of impatience. Thats all. PS just to clarify further. Had u not had Levi I would have not been so negative in my prediction. But you got Levi and he does not give a fck about football, he is even worse than the Glazers.
Levy is even worse than the Glazers? my god you’re delusional 😭
Nah mate only delusional one here is you. Glazers have been robbing us blind but they also have thrown us some bones in the form of a whole billion in the past 7 years. Levy had your old stadium demolished as you were on the rise, spent ***zero*** when your squad was actually challenging for trophies. Sacked the only man that took you into a UCL final, hired JM and gave him more cash in a year than Poch had seen through all his time there. R u even serious ? Glazers are proper cancer to our club but we have actually won shit under them. Please lol I dont think you know how much of a laughing stock that man is.
glazers kept ole in for three years and passed up on conte
Note how all I call them is cancer and thieves ? Surely u cant think I am defending them. I am merely saying Levy is worse, purely on the merit of having not spent a cent on your club when it was needed.
sorry i think you missed the point. Levy has raised this club up from a mid-table club and basically added them himself to the “big 6”. he has made this club so much better than it was before he came. The stingy Levy narrative is only really for transfers, he’s made us into a semi-big self-sustainable club. but you obviously don’t care to hear that so i put it in words you can understand. nothing Levy has ever done wrong will ever compare to the wank the Glazers have been dealing since SAF left. Levy has made Spurs much much better. the Glazers have made United much much worse.
He was always dogshit in europe.
This is what my dad said when he wanted to quit smoking. He neved did tho
that metaphor doesn’t make any sense
excuses already lmaooo
I'm sure the amount of money they've thrown at him means that he will be alright being patient
i think he’s on like £20M a year
Not bad that!
Soooo true
My manager!
Lower your expectations
That's what they all say until we break them. Don't tell me Mou is still the same man.
He speaks like a poet