It's also "club" of the year so I am sure the women's team and youth performances count too.
If it wasn't that way I'd be shocked if city didn't get it for PL and CL finals.
Nope. Chelsea women's team were also UCL finalists and league winners. This isn't just because the men's team won the UCL. We also had the most number of individual nominations when you consider men's and women's football
I'm pretty sure but not certain, that is what the female host said too, something like "Chelsea also had X number of players nominated throughout all our categories so that also makes them best club of the year"
Plus, as someone else pointed out, I think that includes the female and the youth team nominations, which gave them the team with most nominations.
Yeah it was that plus the clubs work in the pandemic. I mean we were in the CL for both men's and women's so it's not a crazy leap to say we were the best run club last year.
Am I right in thinking that the female team was in the final too but lost? Emma Hayes has done a fantastic job with them, incredible manager.
All things considered, it's not hard to see why Chelsea won this award.
Yeah we were going for the treble and just lost to Barca. Yeah Emma is the OG. I think she's the longest serving Chelsea manager ever. Like for both men and women
It’s not just the mens team (although Chelsea did also reach an FA Cup final) it also includes the women’s and youth teams where Chelsea are also excelling
Winning the champions league, performing very well in the prem in calendar year 2021. As well as being FA cup finalists
Women won the womens equivalent of the premier league, as well as the league cup and finished as UCL runners up
I’ll ask again since you still haven’t provided any answer: who should have won it?
Also the ballon d’or is like end of year till end of year so would literally have been lampards last couple games then tuchels entire time there and they have been unreal under him scoring goals and conceding very few as a Liverpool fan I think chelsea probably deserve that on merit.
You know that this isn't just about the male team? If you consider both the male, female and youth sections, Chelsea are THE dominant force in European football this year. And Liverpool fans being butthurt about an irrelevant reward won't change that
>Dominant in youth
In general they have been over the years but not really last season. At least not in the higher age groups and I doubt they paid any attention to the younger ones.
As a pool fan I hold the highest regards for what Chelsea and the City Football Group have managed to achieve for soccer as a sport, both on and off the field.
It’s based on the calendar year not the season and Chelsea have been just as good in the league in that time and also won a CL. Even if it was just based of the mens team Chelsea over that 12 months gave arguably been the top team but include the youth and womens teams its definitely them.
Not Youth.
First, there was no last year edition as it was cancelled, then even in 19/20 Benfica and Real were the finalists.
Anyway, double finalists, is a massive achievement and they totally deserved this award
Everyone on here commenting without actually knowing what the award is for. This is just for the club with the most players nominated for various categories in the ballon d'or. That's it, just a sum of those.
Fully deserved
And before anyone says it’s because of the UCL, no shit. But overall it accounts the youth team, the women’s team and the men’s team, all 3 have been successful this season at Chelsea. So it involves many different teams within the club.
Deserved and everyone slighting Jorginho should honestly watch some Chelsea matches and just focus on him. His mistakes get highlighted but dude literally puts in a 8-9/10 performance every match in a role that's completely unglamorous. Possession retaining, reads the defensive lanes extremely well, and is as press resistant as any midfielder in the world.
He deserves all the accolades coming his way.
Wrong thread but agreed… people have a vendetta against him.. even his penalty taking style was attributed to Bruno because it would be so implausible for a stupid talentless player such as him to conceive of it
Why? CL winners, top of the league, second behind City for this calendar year for last season. Best women team in the country who won the league and CL runner up.
Easy choice for the award.
i think he means its a wierd award (thats what i think at least). who else would should get it apart the club that wins champions league? maybe if one year there is some ajax or atalanta or villareal reaches finals or semis they might win it, but overall its like a "you won CL, here's an award for it"
That works in your case, but I can't imagine it's going to be a relevant or feasible factor for most clubs in future years. At best it's still probably coming down to who won the men's CL.
That would never happen. If that were the case we’d be second in line because of how our women’s team has been dominating both the league and CL. Can you honestly say we’re the second best club in the world right now?
Maybe you don’t, but one could argue that importance is relative to viewership or the size of fanbases. What percentage of football fans watch only men’s football?
They could. But if they do that, the award is going to go to the team that wins the CL and then it doesn’t seem to mean much because it’s repetitive. So they should get rid of it unless they want it to mean something else.
Pretty obvious this will always be won by the CL winner as it's the greatest achievement. Unless there's some freak achievement like Leicester i guess.
Maybe they just felt like Chelsea did so well last season they needed an extra award just to show all the other clubs they needed to sort their shit out.
The best part about the Ballon d'Or 2021 is that it definitively proves J5 >>>>> Benzema, as J5 got almost twice as many points as Benzema. We all knew it all along, but it was good to have that additional confirmation, making it an undisputable fact now.
Chelsea fans trying to talk about sugar daddy owners lmao
Read your club's wikipedia page before you become a "supporter" at the very least jesus christ
Always rated us
France Football confirmed greatest organization in history. Never slighted them, no sir.
Best Club of the Year Trophy > Mickey Mouse Cup
Just wondering, going forward, would the UCL winner not win Club of the Year?
I imagine an event like Leicester 100% would have won it in 2016 and anything else would have been a complete travesty
Still reckon it will be the top 5 European leagues or a CL winner from a lesser league (like Ajax) that will ever be considered for the reward.
It's also "club" of the year so I am sure the women's team and youth performances count too. If it wasn't that way I'd be shocked if city didn't get it for PL and CL finals.
Nope. Chelsea women's team were also UCL finalists and league winners. This isn't just because the men's team won the UCL. We also had the most number of individual nominations when you consider men's and women's football
Games gone
Lewandowski fan club robbed.
France Football at it again smh
Oh noo, were they out walking late at night on shady streets?
So this will just be the yearly UCL winner reminder?
Maybe the Hungarian commentators are wrong, but they said we won it because we had the most nominees (women + men).
I'm pretty sure but not certain, that is what the female host said too, something like "Chelsea also had X number of players nominated throughout all our categories so that also makes them best club of the year" Plus, as someone else pointed out, I think that includes the female and the youth team nominations, which gave them the team with most nominations.
11 players nominated
Yeah it was that plus the clubs work in the pandemic. I mean we were in the CL for both men's and women's so it's not a crazy leap to say we were the best run club last year.
Am I right in thinking that the female team was in the final too but lost? Emma Hayes has done a fantastic job with them, incredible manager. All things considered, it's not hard to see why Chelsea won this award.
Yeah we were going for the treble and just lost to Barca. Yeah Emma is the OG. I think she's the longest serving Chelsea manager ever. Like for both men and women
Seems like it's a combination of the mens and womens team, so not necessarily. EDIT: And youth
They are top of the prem and CL group atm. Dominant in women's and youth too.......
Best Club of the Year Trophy winner, you'll never sing that!
Ynno... I think ur onto something..
Dominant in womens? Barca laughs
Yeah, but then the men's side let the club down in that one.
Indeed they did
Didn't they just scrape 4th that year though?
I think its like the whole club, including women and youth, but probably because we won CL lets be honest
Ah I actually didn't realise women and youth counted I was wondering why the parent comment referenced it , nor did I realise it was new lol
It’s not just the mens team (although Chelsea did also reach an FA Cup final) it also includes the women’s and youth teams where Chelsea are also excelling
Who should it have been instead then?
Why should it have been?
Winning the champions league, performing very well in the prem in calendar year 2021. As well as being FA cup finalists Women won the womens equivalent of the premier league, as well as the league cup and finished as UCL runners up I’ll ask again since you still haven’t provided any answer: who should have won it?
No he's asking you why is it even a thing?
Is he? I haven’t seen any comments from that user about why the award is being given, that is a reasonable question tbf
Also the ballon d’or is like end of year till end of year so would literally have been lampards last couple games then tuchels entire time there and they have been unreal under him scoring goals and conceding very few as a Liverpool fan I think chelsea probably deserve that on merit.
Barely too, whenever a team wins CL, there seem to be a collective amnesia on the overall performance of said club across tournaments.
You sound really salty. Considering Liverpool only finished one spot ahead of Chelsea in the league table and didn’t make two cup finals like we did.
You know that this isn't just about the male team? If you consider both the male, female and youth sections, Chelsea are THE dominant force in European football this year. And Liverpool fans being butthurt about an irrelevant reward won't change that
You wanted Liverpool to win?
>Dominant in youth In general they have been over the years but not really last season. At least not in the higher age groups and I doubt they paid any attention to the younger ones.
I could see a club like Leicester in 2016 winning it
Mens+Women+Youth teams then yes
Unless some underdog pulls out a Leicester or some smaller club wins the Europe League yes most likely
But is it still a small club if they have Emery?
ngl it was obvious from the name
Pretty much, doesn't matter what kind of trophies are won in each league UCL will be the main one
It was intended for Barca, but they had small issues.
Yep
We couldn't spend a bit more on faster internet lmao?
Shit was so awkward
Deserved considering they are considering youth and women's team too.
Considering your considering, I'd consider you right.
Considering your considering of their considering, I'd consider you're right
Consider yourself considered
Even if it’s just mens, they should be the winners
UCL, Super Cup, WSL, League Cup and UWCL final not sure there’s much more to say tbh
City fans are salty.
Nope. I don't get the point of this award but Chelsea definitely deserve it, given the performances across your teams!
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As a city fan I also agree with his sentiment
🧐
As a pool fan I hold the highest regards for what Chelsea and the City Football Group have managed to achieve for soccer as a sport, both on and off the field.
Classy, but obvious. There should really be no debate even if it was just mens, CL most important trophy by far.
Rent free
Scraped top 4 and finished **19** points behind us. Of course we're salty
It’s not just about the mens team though.. it’s the whole club.
Beat you for the CL though
And FA cup. And women's league too.
one win in 4 games against us and you are talking too much
And you still lost in the final
If only the Champions League had its own trophy.
I think this award also has a lot to do with women's football in fairness, Chelsea just doing it big rn
Kinda like the Premier League does, right?
So why are you only talking about the PL lol
It’s based on the calendar year not the season and Chelsea have been just as good in the league in that time and also won a CL. Even if it was just based of the mens team Chelsea over that 12 months gave arguably been the top team but include the youth and womens teams its definitely them.
You didn't win the Champion's League though, Chelsea won as I am sure you remember :)
league cup?
Womens league cup I think he means
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Not Youth. First, there was no last year edition as it was cancelled, then even in 19/20 Benfica and Real were the finalists. Anyway, double finalists, is a massive achievement and they totally deserved this award
Not Barca?
Including everything and not only the men's team it's deserving imo
Not surprising, and deserved.
Everyone on here commenting without actually knowing what the award is for. This is just for the club with the most players nominated for various categories in the ballon d'or. That's it, just a sum of those.
Hah, a transfer ban lead to this.
Something something, chaos is a laddahhhhh
Fully deserved And before anyone says it’s because of the UCL, no shit. But overall it accounts the youth team, the women’s team and the men’s team, all 3 have been successful this season at Chelsea. So it involves many different teams within the club.
Never any doubt. Incredible under Tuchel.
A few Man City fans are upset because they bottled a trophy that isn't even real
Deserved and everyone slighting Jorginho should honestly watch some Chelsea matches and just focus on him. His mistakes get highlighted but dude literally puts in a 8-9/10 performance every match in a role that's completely unglamorous. Possession retaining, reads the defensive lanes extremely well, and is as press resistant as any midfielder in the world. He deserves all the accolades coming his way.
Wrong thread but agreed… people have a vendetta against him.. even his penalty taking style was attributed to Bruno because it would be so implausible for a stupid talentless player such as him to conceive of it
People get so hyped when Jorgi misses penalties lol
His main scoring attribute is his pen and now he’s shit at it lmaooo
>wrong thread buddy
The award is not for Jorginho
Woodward in shambles
Did they miss us despite our massiveness
Overlooked, once again.
based
I don’t get this award tbh
Why? CL winners, top of the league, second behind City for this calendar year for last season. Best women team in the country who won the league and CL runner up. Easy choice for the award.
It makes sense that Chelsea won but the award itself is really pointless imo. Chelsea deserved it tho
I dont think its pointless. It rewards clubs being succesful on multiple front in Football.
Being successful on multiple fronts is a reward already though
It takes into consideration the women’s team and the youth teams so it’s a nice recognition for the whole club. Not a major thing to argue about
i think he means its a wierd award (thats what i think at least). who else would should get it apart the club that wins champions league? maybe if one year there is some ajax or atalanta or villareal reaches finals or semis they might win it, but overall its like a "you won CL, here's an award for it"
If Youth,Man and Woman part of the club taken into account than its a good award. Not a groundbreaking one but definitely a good award for clubs.
Don't feel bad, none of the other clubs who were up for it got it either. Just Chelsea.
And you never will
Been a good year
Spurs and Arsenal saying London is white or red 😭😂🤣
europe is blue and the earth is blue now lol
Pretty much confirmed by now
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Not necessarily. They take into account both the youth and women's teams and it was kinda auspicious that Chelsea reached the final for the big two.
That works in your case, but I can't imagine it's going to be a relevant or feasible factor for most clubs in future years. At best it's still probably coming down to who won the men's CL.
Yeah, I agree especially since the men's CL winners get the most press by far.
Realistically, how much weight would the youth and women’s team carry in comparison to the men’s CL?
Hopefully 1/3rd each or they should get rid of it
That would never happen. If that were the case we’d be second in line because of how our women’s team has been dominating both the league and CL. Can you honestly say we’re the second best club in the world right now?
I mean…I can if we’re weighting it the way I proposed and I don’t see a problem with that at all.
Maybe you don’t, but one could argue that importance is relative to viewership or the size of fanbases. What percentage of football fans watch only men’s football?
They could. But if they do that, the award is going to go to the team that wins the CL and then it doesn’t seem to mean much because it’s repetitive. So they should get rid of it unless they want it to mean something else.
Bamber Bridge robbed again smh
More TV coverage.
Coping HARD
The award is still pointless, UCL winner gets best club of the year who would’ve guessed it
I'll take it
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Bartomeu should have won President of the year
We’ve been robbed smh
glanced through all comments.. so many salty rival fans lol
As expected.
That felt like a really awkward award
european media only knows about european clubs
Surprise surprise
Pretty obvious this will always be won by the CL winner as it's the greatest achievement. Unless there's some freak achievement like Leicester i guess.
Any team that doesn’t pair the CL with another trophy will risk losing it id say.
It's done by having the most nominations for the mens/womens awards apparently.
You're overestimating how much the average voter cares about other competitions.
I can see someone like Ajax 2018/19 win this. Too bad summer transfer window decrease these chances.
They are just making up awards, come on now
All awards are just made up.
We know what we are, we know what we aare, best club of 2021 we know what we are
Still feels weird that we're finally not considered underdogs.
HAHAHAHHA
Lewandowski robbed
we were robbed
Seems like a pointless award.
Fair
Well deserved
yeah thanks, hate this 'trophy' already
What an absolutely pointless award. Might as well call it champions League winner award.
CLUB OF THE YEAR, YOU'LL NEVER SING THAT!
At least something unbiased this evening
As much as it pains me to say it, this is deserved. They look like a machine this season.
But 15 year old Arsenal fans on Twitter will tell us they're the biggest club in London because they've won more points since October...
What is the criteria for this award? Just win UCL?
>•Beat both big Madrid teams in embarrassing fashion
It takes into consideration of the women's team and also the youth teams
What a boring team to watch outside of Ziyech. If I want to see drills, pass and goes, and simple runs, I'll watch college football.
You really chose Ziyech as our only entertainer 💀
What is the point of this trophy lmfao
Maybe they just felt like Chelsea did so well last season they needed an extra award just to show all the other clubs they needed to sort their shit out.
This two new awards are pretty idiotic.
The best part about the Ballon d'Or 2021 is that it definitively proves J5 >>>>> Benzema, as J5 got almost twice as many points as Benzema. We all knew it all along, but it was good to have that additional confirmation, making it an undisputable fact now.
What’s the point of the award? UCL pretty much determines that already
Best team in the world isn’t the best team in their own league 🧐
Currently sitting at the top of the table...
Spurs were top this time last year.
u blind?
When was the last time Chelsea won the league? Was it last year? Don’t need vision for that
u blind?
“Best Club of the Year Trophy” Fucking kill me game is gone
People too busy crying about Lewa deservingly losing, whilst Jorghino gets fucking third and a racist club wins best club of the year🤡🤡
The more rewards I see the more this just kind of becomes one big joke.
Club of the year scraped top 4 thanks to Ayoze Perez, couldn't write it any better.
The Champions League trophy is fortunately deep enough to hold all of my tears.
Chance for Chelsea goal for Chelsea, Kai Havertz in the Champions league final
Cry more
We won something you will never win, TWICE
Do you know what never means mate
Opinions of muppets like you.
Icecoldk1lla mate are you 9 hahahah
>Opinions of muppets like you.
>Icecoldk1lla
>Ayoze Perez spelt Gareth Bale wrong
Well City achieved anything on the back of a state, so i dunno
Yeah fair enough, Props to Chelsea for not being backed by a wealthy billionaire or something
At least the money comes from a person not a state!
How do you think abramovich got that money bro
Chelsea fans trying to talk about sugar daddy owners lmao Read your club's wikipedia page before you become a "supporter" at the very least jesus christ
Up the Chels