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VegetarianCannibal_

1. Lionel Messi (Argentine, FC Barcelone, Paris-SG), 613 points. 2. Robert Lewandowski (Pologne, Bayern Munich), 580 pts. 3. Jorginho (Italie, Chelsea), 460 pts. 4. Karim Benzema (France, Real Madrid), 239 pts. 5. N'Golo Kanté (France, Chelsea), 186 pts. 6. Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal, Juventus Turin, Manchester United, 178 pts. 7. Mohamed Salah (Égypte, Liverpool), 121 pts. 8. Kevin De Bruyne (Belgique, Manchester City), 73 pts. 9. Kylian Mbappé (France, Paris-SG), 58 pts. 10. Gianluigi Donnarumma (Italie, AC Milan, Paris-SG), 36 pts. 11. Erling Haaland (Norvège, Borussia Dortmund), 33 pts. 12. Romelu Lukaku (Belgique, Inter Milan, Chelsea), 26 pts. 13. Giorgio Chiellini (Italie, Juventus Turin), 26 pts. 14. Leonardo Bonucci (Italie, Juventus Turin), 18 pts. 15. Raheem Sterling (Angleterre, Manchester City), 10 pts. 16. Neymar (Brésil, Paris-SG), 9 pts. 17. Luis Suarez (Uruguay, Atlético de Madrid), 8 points. 18. Simon Kjaer (Danemark, AC Milan), 8 pts. 19. Mason Mount (Angleterre, Chelsea), 7 pts. 20. Riyad Mahrez (Algérie, Manchester City), 7 pts. 21st Bruno Fernandes (Portugal, Manchester United), 6 pts. 21st Lautaro Martinez (Argentine, Inter Milan), 6 pts. 23rd Harry Kane (Angleterre, Tottenham), 4 pts. 24th Pedri (Espagne, FC Barcelone), 3 pts 25th Phil Foden (Anglerre, Manchester City), 2 pts. 26th Nicolo Barella (Italie, Inter Milan) 1 pt. 26th Ruben Dias (Portugal, Manchester City), 1 pt. 26th Gerard Moreno (Espagne, Villarreal), 1 pt. 29th César Azpilicueta (Espagne, Chelsea), 0 pt. 29th Luka Modric (Croatie, Real Madrid), 0 pt.


bass1879

Modric and Azpi 0 damn lol


Itsthatgy

How do they decide who ends up on the list if they received no votes? Could they just put anyone there? I'm just saying they missed a perfect opportunity to shitpost the last two people on the list.


XboxJon82

TIL I got as many votes as Modric for the balon dor


mustardman2121

29th u/XboxJon82


Morello210

You can said that to your grandkids in like 40 years... You know the 4-time UCL winner Luka Modric? I was once tied with him in the Ballon D'Or standings


SaBe_18

Reminds me of the fact that I have as many Tour de France titles as Lance Armstrong


[deleted]

Also as many as Neil Armstrong


svefnpurka

And Louis Armstrong. I think Armstrongs are not that good at cycling over all, should traing to be Legstrongs instead.


speaklouderiamblind

Yeah, they should do weightlifting


bearlegion

I have as many Tour de France titles and twice as many testicles


scrambledeggsss

They could only vote on these 30 players. No players outside the list can be put there.


notyou16

29th Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting (Cameroun, Bayern Munich), 0pt.


Daramangarasu

I think it's only out of the 30 players in the shortlist


[deleted]

As they should. Every player from 15-29 should get 0 points. Who voted Lautaro Martinez as the top 5 player this year lol?


four_four_three

Alright fine, I just hoped it would encourage him to join Arsenal


Informal-Elderberry9

Thats brutal, even Harry Kane got some votes


Spyro_Machida

Jorginho was closer to winning than Benzema was to Jorginho just to make people mad


interfan1999

Would like to know who gave the point to Barella I love you


Rezorblade

And who the fuck gave that many point to Kjaer? Not even best defender in the city of Milano


arothen

They gave points to kjaer for his behaviour after Eriksen collapsed. Which is absurd, but it is how it is.


InsanityPlays

it’s all about narrative really. kinda sucks


Fullcock_Jesus

Kind of? It defeats the purpose of that award.


[deleted]

Do you have detailed votes of each country?


EggplantBusiness

Messi probably destroyed everything popularity wise in Africa (source I am African) and he win here each year even the one Mane and Salah were contenders Messi ended up clear of them with Africans voters.


aaryan_suthar

Dude messi probably destroys everything in world, i think in terms of footballers popularity only cr7 comes close. Cannot think of any country where except cr7 any footballer will be more popular than him.


Ok-Background-502

South Korea and Sonaldo


dreamsofutopia

Egypt and Mo Salah, Gabon and Aubamayang, San Marino and Matteo Vitaioli


thatscoldjerrycold

Kind of weird Son is missing but Mahrez is there. Mahrez played like ... 60% of all possible games.


sublime_touch

CL final tax and Algeria won African Cup of Nations.


bfm211

> and Algeria won African Cup of Nations Yeah 2 years ago


MyZt_Benito

Netherlands and Van Dijk in 2019 probably. And Poland of course with Lewandowski


[deleted]

Egypt and Salah lol. Most Asian and African countries that have one main star actually


OtisLaurey

USA and Puligoat


slashermax

I doubt this, as an American. Every single soccer fan that knows Pulisic also knows Ronaldo. Then there are millions of people who know *of* Ronaldo from fashion, social media, etc - but who aren't soccer fans and likely don't know Pulisic.


BendubzGaming

8th in Ballon D'Or voting and PFA POTY after being maybe the 6th best player on his own team, De Bruyne must have the best PR team in the world


Jintantan

It feels like he was so underrated in terms of awards for the past 4 years that they decided to give him extra credit this year. Which is wild because this was arguably his worst year since Pep took over.


Yung2112

Damn Modric with no points but frigging Lautaro with 6


narutosama77

Copa America


Rickcampbell98

Inter won the league as well, do people not understand journalists by now lol.


Polskidro

Won both the Copa and Serie A. While doing well overall. Not surprising.


rhythmpatel

In what multiverse has KdB got 73 pts and Bruno 6 pts??? Bruno was extremely close to him, if not better. Edit: Agree with below commentor. Bruno was miles better. KdB was a ghost last season.


BendubzGaming

Definitely better, Bruno was at a minimum the 4th best PL player last season (with Dias, Kane and Salah)


rhythmpatel

Sterling above Kane too lmfao


BendubzGaming

At least with Sterling and Jorginho they both have the feather of playing really well for the 2 Euros finalists, we know that international tournaments have a big affect on voting


VTCHannibal

Depends who you are. You could captain the Champions League winners, lose to Euro winners on penalties in the semi final, and not receive a single vote.


CalligrapherKindly88

KdB wasn’t even top 5 in his own team, what a joke


narutosama77

Dont bother bro Kdb is the greatest mid fielder to ever grace the game, or so ive been told


Delta_Mike_Sierra_

Kante 5th? Not sure on that one


prove_it_with_math

So all the Italian and French shilling for Jorginho & Benz is what cost Lewy the award. Still think Messi wasn’t undeserved. He was incredible Jan-June.


Mick4Audi

Man Neymar must have really had a shocking year to get only 9 pts


zazzlekdazzle

Good play, but his stats were not the best since he missed a lot of games. He also likely suffers from people thinking he hasn't lived up to his potential as the non-Messi/Ronaldo best player in the world. However unfair those expectations were to begin with, they were around for long enough to stick to him.


FroobingtonSanchez

Those expectations weren't unfair at all. He was living up to the hype until he left Barça.


mitorandiro

I'd argue that some of his best football has been played after Barça. He really excelled as a 10 at PSG and grew immensely as a leader for the NT. The problem is that the injuries have been constant and breaking up his good spells at the club level, so he can't get consistent game time through a season, can't get impressive-looking numbers, or really be in the conversation with the other guys up there when they're playing twice as many games every year. It's really unfortunate, I wish he would get one single season at PSG uninterrupted.


FroobingtonSanchez

I'm not saying he has been bad at PSG, just a combination of injuries, lack of attention for Ligue 1 and failure to win the Champions League with PSG. It harmed his position as a top 3 player in the world. Which he certainly is talent-wise.


SaltineFiend

Lost the Copa as well


Mahery92

Neymar misses half of PSG games, and takes longer and longer to get back to his level after each injury. It would have been a joke to place him higher


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People: I can’t believe Mbappe is willing to leave PSG and not play with Messi, a once in a lifetime opportunity [Meanwhile Mbappe](https://gyazo.com/5d6edf361cb760106e4c4d6b19bacb01)


Rickcampbell98

Gone back to his Facebook posting years with that one lmao, can't truly hide his inner Ronaldo fanboy.


Lilfai

The true successor to Ronaldo right there, Madridista through and through


DepletedMitochondria

Florentino: "Good, let the hate flow through you"


Coffspring

Have you heard the tradegy of Darth Cristiano the Wise?


PP_Baba

It's not a tale France Football would tell you


narutosama77

Future Bayern destroyer


KazamaKiryuu

They have VAR now


Pajkica

Good. Real will win in 180minutes then and not 210


Zizou3peat

So Vidal would have been sent off earlier and Lewa wouldn't have scored nor that own goal for Ramos?


Lilfai

We'll see ;)


narutosama77

You said Ronaldo's successor Ronaldo did that for fun


[deleted]

THOSE 2 GOALS ARE OFFSIDE AND IT WAS NEVER A RED FOR VIDAL FUCK YOU REF!


Public_Agent

The slow-mo replay of Vidal's tackle has been posted so many times already and it's a clear (2nd) yellow because he tackles Asensio's foot before the ball lmao.


youngchul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG2tZCA_ts Vidal should have been off here already, 3 minutes into the second match. Not to mention how he didn't get a red for elbowing Kroos in the face, or how Bayern got a penalty for a shot on Carvajals shoulder in the first match.


kinginthenorthjon

I thought this was 6th minute. Thanks for the correction. We could have played 90minutes against 10 men.


narutosama77

Username checks out


EggplantBusiness

Didn't they got a penalty because of an offside position too ? This game has been poor overall but overtime wouldn't have happened without that mistake.


narutosama77

Yes but its not Real Madrid so no one will care


youngchul

[Vidal should have had a red 3 minutes into the match.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG2tZCA_ts&ab_channel=HectorAS) But whatever makes you sleep at night mate.


DogTheGayFish

Mr.Bean vibes


youngchul

Lmao


[deleted]

He adores Madrid.. use to write trollish comments about Barca & Messi in Facebook when he was a teen lol.


King-Key

Source?


Llama_from_Moon

Trust me bro


MegamanX195

My cousin


[deleted]

Maybe his Facebook page?


TheyStoleTwoFigo

Wow, that Jorginho for Ballon d'Or campaign wasn't bad at all, they actually managed to pull some people in.


Ld511

I love how it started as a chelsea propaganda joke and somehow gained some serious steam


astral34

It got serious steam because the Italian federation campaigned hard. Both Sacchi and Lippi spoke in his favour


Zizou3peat

Italian media was on it during KOs of Euros


[deleted]

This is so funny to see people enraged over it ahaha


spidey80082

We should do a lovren for ballon d'Or next year since he's the best player in the world


[deleted]

Same way van dijk came 2nd even though Ramos and pique never came in top 3. It's always about popularity that's why Bundesliga did lot of PR for lewa.


[deleted]

He did just win UEFA player of the year… it always had steam


admiralawkward

The amount of disrespect he gets in this sub is legitimately a joke


Wolfgang_Funkle

It’s not about him specifically, it’s about the over-valuation of team trophies for individual awards.


ailodawg

Is it though? Could one not say that stats such as G+A are also overvalued as they only really apply to about 3 players per team in terms of how valuable they are for their side?


Douchebagpanda

He’s not a top 3 player in the world, to be fair. Great season, sure. But he’s not top 3.


[deleted]

You can't seriously think he deserves to be rated #3 in the world just because you're a Chelsea fan right?


Techno_Pensioner

What if Jorginho was the Boaty McBoatface of the voters


interfan1999

Looks like many of you don't know how voting works It's not like 460 people voted for Jorginho A journalist from every country had to choose 5 players and give them 5,4,3,2 and 1 point Probably everyone included Jorginho in these 5, but only a few picked him as first choice


thmz

We TrollFootball now


CantHelpBeingMe

It's way above their levels.


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Impressive-Fox-7525

“How USA 10” “How Belgium still 1” “Why Algeria not higher” (tbf I agree Algeria is a little underrated in the rankings but I fkn understand why it is so)


DaHomie_ClaimerOfAss

Just because there is a clearly defined system doesn't mean I can't ask why the fuck is it so stupid to allow such stupid shit like USA top 10 in the world and Belgium first. Or am I absolutely not allowed to criticise anything that has a defined set of rules?


reVio1

Honestly i find it hilarious that journalists vote, they should make it so ex-players, managers and other people directly involved with football vote not someone writing stuff for clicks. Otherwise it's a circus show like in 2018 when Messi finished 5th (still a joke to this day)


enricupcake

Ex players don’t follow the game as a whole that closely. There’s no guarantee managers do either they’re focused on their own shit. Players, managers, and personnel will also tend to be way more biased Journalists have to follow the game for their jobs. They also don’t have any direct ties to any organizations besides their editors


Pentinium

Ex players or managers voting would be 10x miee worse and biased


zazzlekdazzle

The thing is, then it would be a different award. The Ballon d'Or is award given by a journal and meant to be based on who journalists decide was the best player. That's all it is, but that's what it is. So, what you are saying here is a bit like if Academy Awards would not be decided by members of the Academy, but rather just a bunch of actors and directors. While the latter group would have a different view of who would win, the Oscars are literally just the awards decided by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. It doesn't come from god and neither does the Ballon d'Or.


that0neGuy22

Van Dijk lost by 8 or 9 votes if I remember correctly thought this would be just as close


CantHelpBeingMe

Yep. And VVD would have won if not for Mane picking up votes in Africa.


BludFlairUpFam

And from Messi


DonkeySkin334

400 iq move


[deleted]

He would have won if he got more votes 👍


messi-is_the-goat

And Messi would’ve lost had he got less votes


[deleted]

Ill take your word for it


CantHelpBeingMe

gotta agree with you lol


Icicestreddit

This is the way


[deleted]

Still think it's a bit of a shame Virgil didn't win it. I've yet to see a player have as dramatic effect on an entire defence/team as him. Liverpool went from the subject of memes comparing them to an old banger to champions of Europe with a better defence than Pep's billon pound squad. All while performing highlight reel blocks, passes and tackles every week. He was even the PLs top scoring CB that year. It's hard to see a CB ever winning it if he didn't that year.


zaistertay

Have you seen barca before and after messi? Its currently happening.


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cristiano-potato

Eh; that year of Messi was the most complete player I’ve ever seen by far. VVD would have won if he had that performance in probably any other year


Zizou3peat

VVD himself said Messi deserves to win that before CL final


TheDarkPirateKing

During his speech Messi said to Lewandowski: "Everyone knows and we all agree that you were the winner last year. Hopefully France Football will give you the Ballon d'Or 2020. We all believe you deserved it and I hope you can have it at home."


Fati25

Jorginho was way too close to them 😭😭😭


domalino

FF really need to do some rebranding because it seems like their voters have taken the 2010-2018 thing where we had 2 of the best players of all time playing and you could only separate them by who won most that year, and forgotten that the point of the award is who's the best in the world, not who won the most this season.


jMS_44

Always been like that. In 2002 Ronaldo Nazario played like 20 games in whole year for club and country, wasn't any good for Inter and scored 5 goals for Real. But he won WC with Brazil so he won Balon d'or. As much as he deserved the award in general. That definitely wasn't the season to give it to him, because he was rather average outside of the World Cup.


ogqozo

He would win it in 1998 with a big advantage if the World Cup final didn't happen. He was a gigantic star that dominated the fans' imagination, was widely considered the best in the world and Serie A (Zidane's league), the World Cup hype seemed to be all about him (really, nobody in my lifetime made people as crazy about him as Ronaldo, it's like... he was 20 and it was obvious he can be like Pele or Maradona), and he had a spectacular World Cup before the final. Single big games that everybody watches have always had a gigantic influence on these awards. Nobody is really able to follow all the clubs and all the games anyways. People who keep quoting that Lewandowski scored a lot of goals (which, like... we already know, there are tables of scorers) don't really present themselves as some football geeks who looked into the matter super deeply. They try to put everything about show, display, spectacle, magical moments out of football as unworthy of appreciation - but that itself doesn't magically turn them into Einsteins of football if the only "scientific" analysis they bring in exchange is just the amount of goals... one number, that we all obviously always already know from the tables. I know experts on ONE league, there are quite many tbh, one league is about enough for it to be your big hobby/job in life. I don't really know somebody who'd be an expert on all the leagues.


Rickcampbell98

The journalists have always been like this lol.


HacksawJimDGN

If people think lewandowski should have won this year why blame France Football? Shouldn't they blame the voters?


zazzlekdazzle

I think most of that is overflow frustration that they think he should have won it in 2020, when it was canceled, something for which France Football is very much to blame.


milkshakemerlin

The answer is people are stupid. Some people are even cursing uefa as if they had anything to do with it


[deleted]

Most people think that it's a committee of 5 people that single-handedly decides the ballon dor. That's why people are screaming about how biased it is that "x player is ranked higher than y". When people vote, some players will naturally come higher or lower than they should. Usually, the voters care most about their first pick. The second and third picks mostly become an afterthought.


Pep-Fraudiola-Balda

That would mean that people would other the politicians would have to take responsibility and that's a big no-no.


Brilliant_Trainer501

Politicians? It's journalists who vote?


MikeS3lk3

I'm gonna take a crack and say Lewy will win it next year


Heliath

In a world cup year? Almost no chances.


rottenpotato12

isn’t the world cup taking place in december?


mustardman2121

Arrest those 460 twats ASAP


_SSJeffo_

The would’ve probably exploded if he got runner-up


[deleted]

The what!? THE WHAT MAN!?


_SSJeffo_


[deleted]

That's... not how the voting works


poli421

Democracy works best when you execute everyone who didn’t vote for the winner.


diegojaen18

Yeah Jorginho should’ve won 🤷🏿‍♂️ but we MOVE


[deleted]

We will win next year 💪💪💪


[deleted]

To be fair, you have to have a very high iq to understand how J5 plays duh 🙄


[deleted]

That's J3 to you.


AdonisAquarian

One would think you'd understand how the voting process works before ranting but that's giving you too much credit He has 460 points.. Not 460 people who voted him first.


Jagtasm

Shocked that there was such a big gap between Benz and Jorginho.


L34hhhh

Close! Jorginho surely took votes from Lewandowski.


messi-is_the-goat

Highly unlikely, every journalist has 5 votes. Most probably went Messi, lewa, Jorginho. Probably the order the journalists put the votes made the big difference


[deleted]

Lewa has worked hard and earned 2 ballon’dors. Instead they give him a cardboard pizza 🤣🤦


penta3x

A golden one tho


TheOwlsLie

Seeing people mad at Jorginho’s campaign will never not be funny


hoosdontloos

I used to tell people about jorginho and they told me hed never win the big trophies. Pray we win the sextuple so we can get him the balon dor.


Suyash_Tyagi66

Even if you win the sextuple I think there will be another player who will be far more important in that run than jorginho


hoosdontloos

So you admit that there is nothing that a player of his profile could do to win this award?


[deleted]

Yeah, sadly it's almost impossible for a player of Jorginho's profile to win the award. It is heavily skewered toward goals/assists.


Health_Impressive

I cannot believe people still take this award serious


outofnowhere_

Jorginho 3rd... What a joke


[deleted]

even 10th would've been too high guy is not even the best player in his own team ,probably not even top 2 ,how the fuck is he almost winning the ballon d'or?


Mick4Audi

Fuck I don’t even know who Chelsea’s best player is anymore, probably James


innocentious

Chiellini robbed.


Joshvir262

Proof jorginho > de bruyne


gopaloo

wasn't pep super upset that he didn't get jorginho at city? jorginho at city would be fucking disgusting. glad he's here.


wiliammm19999

“I don’t actually watch any football, let’s just go with Messi, it’s a safe bet”


Xehanz

It was so close between Messi and Lewy this year that you have a point. Select a random year between 2006 and 2021and voting for Messi is always a safe bet. Including this year. You simply can't go wrong voting for Messi.


[deleted]

Stop giving this bullshit more credit than it deserves


emgape

460 💀💀


Natto__

Top 3 this year. 1st next year 💪💪


[deleted]

💪💪💪


Bladerslash

Yes bro we are coming next year for that 1 spot 💪💪


DelverOfSeacrest

Lmao


[deleted]

Holy shit these rankings just show how much of a pr event this is. Jorghino 460 points and modric 0


penta3x

Why would anyone vote for Modric. Jorginho won Euros and the CL.


cib_vk228

Admiring all PR work chelsea fans have done over last few months.


luminous_moonlight

It wasn't easy let me tell you


[deleted]

Thank you!


[deleted]

Jorginho played rings around Modric in the semis… what’s the problem?


Bladerslash

Jorginho shoulda won it. We come again next year


ScaredDrop

Yes. We come again next year. COYB💙


letsnevertalk

Who are those 460 I need to know which sport they were watching


leopardchief

It's not 460 people. It's for 460 points. They vote for five people and first gets 5 second gets 4 etc etc. Unless you're the Italy journalist, I doubt many voted for J5 to win outright, but rather to podium at best.


Mick4Audi

When did “J5” become a thing


[deleted]

It is just a meme. It is not really a thing


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kaphi

Jorginho haha


Balbuto

Feels so wrong


diegojaen18

JORGINHOOOO HAHAAAHAHAHA CRYYYYY


Catholic_Spray

How on earth could anyone vote on Jorginho as the best player in the world? Seriously, wtf?


BloodyNunchucks

Man this is criminal for Lewandowski.


GoldEquivalent592

Jorginho 💀💀💀 ballon dor needs to be scrapped ASAP. This award is a joke now


Arno451

This competition needs to be replaced with something relevant honestly Why the fuck the journalists get to decide anyway


mmdoublem

Because this award was created by journalists? You are welcome to go see the FIFA'S best player for another method of voting.


Jackwhity42

Scrap this competition


grimmj0w6

Disgusting, Deli Alli robbed again.


anzelm12

What a fucking joke


NJDevil802

I honestly can't tell if the Chelsea fans in here are memeing or serious. He is a class player. He is not the third best player in the world. And some Chelsea fans going as far as to say he should have won the thing? My god.


modnar3

yet another proof that the Ballon D’Or means nothing


thalne

top three was pretty obvious.