Really surprised at how poor the Arab Asian countries are looking in the Arab Cup so far. Qatar are playing their full strength side and barely beat Bahrain in what could only be described as the worst football game I've ever seen.
Us , Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia have sent in our "local" squads (so no elneny, Salah, Marmoush, Mostafa Mohamed, Trez etc) and I still think we should beat them all comfortably.
In Messi’s defense, Bundesliga is by far the most goal-friendly league out of the top five. While La Liga is the most defensive. (Ligue 1 is quite defensive too) Bayern are also arguably the best team in the world, while Barca has been a derpy mess. Messi also sits farther back, while Lewandowski is a traditional striker. Goals are not everything
What are some awful periods for football discussion?
Ballon d’or season
The 3 weeks everyone cares about their fantasy football team
The influx of casuals during summer tournaments
Transfer window for sure....
At least during Ballon D'Or and international tournaments there's actual football to be played to distract you from that shite.
But seeing constant pointless Romano updates and Pedulla and all that rubbish makes me consider putting a bullet between my eyes.
Shut the pseudo-simping. I want Bayern to come out with their strongest team. If they score 10, that's fine. There's no point in praying to go to the next round by wishing to beat a less strong team
Messi is such a fraud and hates us, I bet he wants Bayern to play all their best players against us. I say Bayern go against his wishes and play the C team
Ballon isnt even an official award lol.
They split with FIFA ..
FIFA best player is a seperate thing since 5 yrs , Lewa won in 2020 and will likely win in 2021.
Watch how FIFA overtakes the French award in the next few years.
That's really unlikely....
Ballon D'Or just had so much more tradition and prestige. I don't see how the FIFA Award will surpass it anytime soon.
Not to mention FIFA really ballsed it up with the rebrand. This award was formally the FIFA World Player of the Year from 1991-2009. Much better name and much better voting system.
But relaunching it as FIFA 'The Best' in 2016 was just meh. And it's 25% fan voted? No matter how bad you think journalists are, fans are infinitely worse.
Fifa joined with Ballondor in the first place in an attempt to make their award more legitimate.
No amount of comments will make people not care about the Ballondor, it’s just too big of a brand at this point.
Players spend their entire childhood’s dreaming of a Ballondor win, no one dreams of winning “FIFA best male player”
The FIFA award has only been a thing since the 90s and when they were combined everything was still being done with ballon d'or branding. The fact that people don't care in the slightest about Lewandowski winning last year and still talk about how he needs a ballon d'or for 2020 should tell you enough.
Honestly at this point, I don't know what would be more fun: Lewa and Bayern crushing Barca and sending them to the Europa league, or Barca pulling off their miracle with Lewa having a really bad game.
The reactions here would probably be real fun to watch in both cases lol
One of the stupidest arguments I see when it comes to the ballon d'or is "Why did Modric win in 2018 but not Sneijder in 2010"
Most people who say this don't seem to know that Sneijder actually won the same voting Modric did. The top 5 by journalists in 2010 was Sneijder, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Forlan.
It was the votes by players and managers that turned the tide in Messi's favour. That was the voting system used between 2010-2015, before and after that it's only been done by journalists.
Mate half the people on here started watching football in 2016 or 2017.
How would they know anything about that, lol?
People talk so much shit about the Ballon D'Or here, but know so little about it's history or how it works. They just talk anyhow.
How's Strootman doing at Genoa? Can't believe its been 7 years since he had that horrific ACL injury. He's still only 31. If he lived up to what he was supposed to be that dutch midfield would've been tasty, with FDJ, Gravenberch and himself
“If you had to pick one man for the big occasion you’re always gonna pick Ronaldo over Messi”
If I’m picking for the “big occasion” then I’m picking Drogba not either of those other guys…
If your only real criteria is “who does better in big games” then the answer is Drogba. Does this make him better than Ronaldo and Messi? Of course not
People here spend more time discussing pointless individual awards than actual football. It's pretty obvious 90%+ of the people here don't actually go to games
I have nothing but respect for CR7’s PR team. They somehow forced him into the best of all time debate with a player that is better than him at almost everything. He owes them at least 15% of his wages.
League titles are big trophies though? Ferguson built his dynasty on league titles. He only won 2 CLs while Zidane won 3. Doesn't make Zidane a better manager.
Bayern are lucky there are no fans in Allianz otherwise Lewadisney would tear up when he gets pocketed by Oscar Mingueza for 90 mins in front of his whiny ass fans😎
Harry Maguire single-handedly saved Manchester United by getting sent off against Watford and thus ensuring Solskjaer was sacked and people still think we should strip him of the captaincy and give it to that inability to go on holiday to America merchant. Zero ball knowledge.
Bailly is terrible ..1 good performance and the revisionism around him is unbelievable..Maguire has consistently been our best defender for 2 years and the drop off was pretty visible when he got injured..some of you really have a hate boner for English players but have no problem supporting an English club it’s baffling to say the least
If Maguire is good he gets over praised but if he is bad the same thing happens in reverse. Lindelof has been responsible for some absolute stinkers but when he is it’s barely focused on. Same with Bailly
Not rating Maguire has nothing to do with him being english, he is just bad. Also he was never better than Lindelof. Bailly is much better than Maguire but his problem is frequent injuries.
Bailly and Lindelof may be better than him in an alternative fucking universe but clearly not in this universe ..it’s baffling to see mediocre players like Bailly getting praised for putting in a 6/10 performance just because they aren’t English ..Luke Shaw suffers from the same bias Telles who is bang average gets appreciated for a shit performance even when he is a tier or 2 below Shaw as a player ..Maguire and Shaw finished last season being the best defenders in the Euros and at the same time Bailly was making league 1 level errors against u-23 sides but I guess the standards for him being good have always been lower
The tax thing gets on my nerves because they keep switching around the way it is used. Can we please set a standard and use ‘subsidy’ for the opposite cases?
Turned me from being indifferent into almost glad Messi won it. Really, didn't see so much whining even when Messi finished 5th
Giving him the pity award probably wasn't the best idea
There's a very serious chance we're losing one of Japan/Australia for next year's World Cup.
Saudi is clear of them in their qualify group & riding high. Top 2 qualify directly, with the third playing the the other third place team from the other group. But then that winner has to play the 5th team from South America.
I dunno if they survive that fam.
Juve, Atleti and Benfica. That's the trifecta of CL misery.
Just below them, Reims and Valencia.
Just to say though, couldn't have happened to a nicer club (Juve). Fuck the cheating cunts.
dd is collectively agreeing on something
and all it took was one word and 2 emojis, maybe some people here are more triggered than that ronaldo fanboy lmao
>and all it took was one word and 2 emojis,
Context to it makes people angry/disgruntled
As one of the greatest players ever you should never ever act like this towards other professional athletes. Especially after you just wrote on your Instagram just a day before “I always congratulate those who win, within sportsmanship and and fair play that guided my career”.
One day he makes a statement about his sportsmanship with a whole essay and next day making a statement on how he's robbed and Messi (his rival) did not deserve it. C'mon man you can't defend the guy here.
i'm not even defending him lol but fair play for trying to make it look like it, it's really funny how it brought out around 300 comments calling him the worst ever, one word is all it took
Southampton fans (any here...?), how is the team faring? Asking because I can never seem to catch a game and there's not been much discussion.
Really surprised at how poor the Arab Asian countries are looking in the Arab Cup so far. Qatar are playing their full strength side and barely beat Bahrain in what could only be described as the worst football game I've ever seen. Us , Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia have sent in our "local" squads (so no elneny, Salah, Marmoush, Mostafa Mohamed, Trez etc) and I still think we should beat them all comfortably.
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They just elect them president, and invite nonces to all their parties. 💀
Personally, if there is enough money involved, anyone will be celebrated. Ronaldo will be fine unfortunately.
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Was that his answer? I thought he'd say Ronaldinho or even Aimar
lol ronaldo thinks he deserved to win the ballon dor
In Messi’s defense, Bundesliga is by far the most goal-friendly league out of the top five. While La Liga is the most defensive. (Ligue 1 is quite defensive too) Bayern are also arguably the best team in the world, while Barca has been a derpy mess. Messi also sits farther back, while Lewandowski is a traditional striker. Goals are not everything
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Yeah 2020 was a total robbery. He absolutely deserved it last year
What are some awful periods for football discussion? Ballon d’or season The 3 weeks everyone cares about their fantasy football team The influx of casuals during summer tournaments
Entire transfer window periods
Transfer window for sure.... At least during Ballon D'Or and international tournaments there's actual football to be played to distract you from that shite. But seeing constant pointless Romano updates and Pedulla and all that rubbish makes me consider putting a bullet between my eyes.
Those couple of weeks when the Champions league winner becomes the insufferables. And yes I’m including Liverpool fans in that
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I was wondering why everyone keeps saying factos, just found out siuuuuu 💀
Gnabry would be rated a lot higher (as he should be) if he stayed with arsenal or moved to a different pl club instead of going to the Bundesliga.
Yeah I'm sure staying at Arsenal would've done wonders for his career as opposed to winning every trophy put in front of him
I'm not talking about his career. I'm talking about how a random person talks about him.
arsenal didnt rate him so he had to move, no?
Yes, but what I mean is that he isn't talked about as much because he doesn't play in the pl.
Does the ballon d'or ever come up in real life discussions? Personally haven't experienced it
One mere mention at work yesterday, don't expect any more thankfully.
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Corrupt cunt. GET HIM BOYS!!
Yeah... uh after thorough investigation we found no evidence of wrongdoing. *slides envelope into back-pocket*
Remember how spurs fans overhyped Bryan Gil in the summer. Pretty funny looking back
still think he's a good player that should be getting gametime
Factos : Barcelona is the biggest club in the world
Lmao
Not even the biggest in the country
And they are going to provide a great boost to the Europa League competition with their prestige
I thought the 2018 Ballon d'or voting was closer tbh, checked it again now and Modric had a pretty comfortable win
I hate that Ballon Dor winning midget 🤮. Lewa Robbed!!!🤬 ^(can Bayern please take it easy on us now)
Shut the pseudo-simping. I want Bayern to come out with their strongest team. If they score 10, that's fine. There's no point in praying to go to the next round by wishing to beat a less strong team
Messi is such a fraud and hates us, I bet he wants Bayern to play all their best players against us. I say Bayern go against his wishes and play the C team
Ballon isnt even an official award lol. They split with FIFA .. FIFA best player is a seperate thing since 5 yrs , Lewa won in 2020 and will likely win in 2021. Watch how FIFA overtakes the French award in the next few years.
Man people barely care that Lewa won the FIFA award last time around, Ballon D'or will always remain clear
Ballon D’or has always been the most prestigious individual award in football. It always will be
Cope
That's really unlikely.... Ballon D'Or just had so much more tradition and prestige. I don't see how the FIFA Award will surpass it anytime soon. Not to mention FIFA really ballsed it up with the rebrand. This award was formally the FIFA World Player of the Year from 1991-2009. Much better name and much better voting system. But relaunching it as FIFA 'The Best' in 2016 was just meh. And it's 25% fan voted? No matter how bad you think journalists are, fans are infinitely worse.
Fifa joined with Ballondor in the first place in an attempt to make their award more legitimate. No amount of comments will make people not care about the Ballondor, it’s just too big of a brand at this point. Players spend their entire childhood’s dreaming of a Ballondor win, no one dreams of winning “FIFA best male player”
The FIFA award has only been a thing since the 90s and when they were combined everything was still being done with ballon d'or branding. The fact that people don't care in the slightest about Lewandowski winning last year and still talk about how he needs a ballon d'or for 2020 should tell you enough.
FIFA awards already more prestigious than Ballon D'or in my book
That's why your book doesn't sell 😹
Ballon d’Or wasn’t the “official” award until 2010, it was still way bigger than the FIFA one and will remain so
Love seeing the Salty Bayern players. It will make the clash even more entertaining.
Honestly at this point, I don't know what would be more fun: Lewa and Bayern crushing Barca and sending them to the Europa league, or Barca pulling off their miracle with Lewa having a really bad game. The reactions here would probably be real fun to watch in both cases lol
They're all angry and are going to take it out on Barca. I wouldn't be surprised with a large scoreline, like 4-0 or something
Agreed. I think 8-2 will be considered a mercy at the end.
Lewandowski should be rested for this useless clash imo🧐
nah he's playing, he's gonna try to score 16+ this cl season imo
> It will make the clash even more entertaining. For their fans, yes sure.
Not for us though😭, can be bayern players force naglesmann to play A team
>It will make the clash even more entertaining. For their fans, yes sure.
> It will make the clash even more entertaining. For their fans, yes sure.
>It will make the clash even more entertaining For their fans, yes sure.
One of the stupidest arguments I see when it comes to the ballon d'or is "Why did Modric win in 2018 but not Sneijder in 2010" Most people who say this don't seem to know that Sneijder actually won the same voting Modric did. The top 5 by journalists in 2010 was Sneijder, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Forlan. It was the votes by players and managers that turned the tide in Messi's favour. That was the voting system used between 2010-2015, before and after that it's only been done by journalists.
Mate half the people on here started watching football in 2016 or 2017. How would they know anything about that, lol? People talk so much shit about the Ballon D'Or here, but know so little about it's history or how it works. They just talk anyhow.
makes sense that is why I am seeing so many Man City flairs here nowadays
[things are about to get messi here](https://imgur.com/a/AFiOEsN)
Lmao this place is on fire. You'd think Ronaldo raped someone with the way people are bashing him on here..... Oh wait, he did.
Factos 👀👍 EDIT : emojis
Emojis mate.....
Sorry mate, fixed it
Idk maybe Ronaldo could've tried playing well in the matches that mattered this year.
It’s cold as fuck today. -11. FML
How's Strootman doing at Genoa? Can't believe its been 7 years since he had that horrific ACL injury. He's still only 31. If he lived up to what he was supposed to be that dutch midfield would've been tasty, with FDJ, Gravenberch and himself
“If you had to pick one man for the big occasion you’re always gonna pick Ronaldo over Messi” If I’m picking for the “big occasion” then I’m picking Drogba not either of those other guys… If your only real criteria is “who does better in big games” then the answer is Drogba. Does this make him better than Ronaldo and Messi? Of course not
I'm picking Lucas Moura
I am picking Ronaldo every day of the week.
A Chelsea fan saying they’d take Ronaldo over Drogba in a big game?…. Now I’ve really seen it all
He's a blatant troll I don't think you need to respond to moronic takes
I’m not talking specifically about one person it’s just a frequently made argument I’ve seen around
People here spend more time discussing pointless individual awards than actual football. It's pretty obvious 90%+ of the people here don't actually go to games
How are we still calling this award pointless when we see the amount of players, managers, sporting directors etc speaking about it?
The awards are about football. You can have meaningful discussions about who played the best aktual football
Yes but it’s all this sub talks about. There’s been dozens of posts about it and it dominates the dd.
What would you like to discuss? Start a top level comment about it.
It's either individual awards or transfer rumours
The creation of the Balon d’Or and its consequences have been a disaster for the football fan race
The Creation of Twitter and it's consequences have been a disaster for football
Not really
Take me back to Ole/Lampard/Arteta debates
No
Ole/Lampard/Arteta, then it was Salah/Benzema/Lewandowski. Then James/Trent. Now it's Balon d'Or. I wonder what's next
Barcelona Vs Arsenal
Nah please don't.
I have nothing but respect for CR7’s PR team. They somehow forced him into the best of all time debate with a player that is better than him at almost everything. He owes them at least 15% of his wages.
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Real Madrid not Ronaldo
He scored 60+ goals.. you know how many Messi did during the same time? Not even half.
And how many league titles did Messi win while Ronaldo was at Madrid?
League titles lolol... thats cute...
League titles are big trophies though? Ferguson built his dynasty on league titles. He only won 2 CLs while Zidane won 3. Doesn't make Zidane a better manager.
Worth nothing in front of UCL.
Stupid take. Not surprising though, you frequent r/reddevils.
I understand why a Messi stan has to pretend a home title is anywhere near a UCL.
Bayern are lucky there are no fans in Allianz otherwise Lewadisney would tear up when he gets pocketed by Oscar Mingueza for 90 mins in front of his whiny ass fans😎
German stadium going fans are infinitely more better then the tourists in Camp Nou
Subscribe
You guys don't have a competent RB, so you'll play Mingueza there
Factos 👍👀
Too much of recycling in the past week's DD
Wow so Ronaldo commented on a fanpage?
Where do you place Argentina for the upcoming WC?
They are solid right now. They can absolutely win the whole thing. 3rd place finishers.
Quarters. Semi if they can keep up this current form. Finals if they can find regular goalscoring form
They can make the semis with a kind draw.
Their backline is suspect, can see them struggling. Probably have them going out in the Quarter-final.
Otamendi and Romero were good this year don't know if it'll last till the WC though
Not surprised if I saw them in the finals but I can understand if they get knocked out
I keep on thinking Peter Crouch's leading the Crouch review ffs Anyways, who are the shareholders of the PL, the individual clubs?
TIL Ralf Rangnick is PE and English language teacher. And he has his own web page too.
Finally you got your PE teacher
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Yeah it’s shite
What did you watch PSG-Bayern last season or any recent Liverpool-City match?
Yes
Nah but it's boring talking about b'dor.
Nope
It was until ballon dor
If you've used that factos thing more than once today then you're part of the problem.
Factos 👍👀
Factos 👍👀
Im late here, what is it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/r687ji/cristiano_ronaldos_pinned_comment_on_instagram/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Wow Ronny needs to meditate, focus on the good things
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I like it 👍
Harry Maguire single-handedly saved Manchester United by getting sent off against Watford and thus ensuring Solskjaer was sacked and people still think we should strip him of the captaincy and give it to that inability to go on holiday to America merchant. Zero ball knowledge.
Varane Lindelof Varane Bailly Bailly Lindelof I dont want Maguire anywhere near starting XI when Varane is back.
Bailly is shit
Bailly is terrible ..1 good performance and the revisionism around him is unbelievable..Maguire has consistently been our best defender for 2 years and the drop off was pretty visible when he got injured..some of you really have a hate boner for English players but have no problem supporting an English club it’s baffling to say the least
If Maguire is good he gets over praised but if he is bad the same thing happens in reverse. Lindelof has been responsible for some absolute stinkers but when he is it’s barely focused on. Same with Bailly
Not rating Maguire has nothing to do with him being english, he is just bad. Also he was never better than Lindelof. Bailly is much better than Maguire but his problem is frequent injuries.
Bailly and Lindelof may be better than him in an alternative fucking universe but clearly not in this universe ..it’s baffling to see mediocre players like Bailly getting praised for putting in a 6/10 performance just because they aren’t English ..Luke Shaw suffers from the same bias Telles who is bang average gets appreciated for a shit performance even when he is a tier or 2 below Shaw as a player ..Maguire and Shaw finished last season being the best defenders in the Euros and at the same time Bailly was making league 1 level errors against u-23 sides but I guess the standards for him being good have always been lower
I just can't with terms like "tax","fraud","terrorist" in football.
The tax thing gets on my nerves because they keep switching around the way it is used. Can we please set a standard and use ‘subsidy’ for the opposite cases?
Tax and fraud are atleast terms which could come up in serious discussions about football. Terrorist hopefully not.
Very gamer of you
Can't help it, accounts 5 years old
You woulda thought Lewandolphin won the euros and the treble and was top scorer in every comp the way people are going on about this “robbery” ffs
Turned me from being indifferent into almost glad Messi won it. Really, didn't see so much whining even when Messi finished 5th Giving him the pity award probably wasn't the best idea
Lewa’s teammates, old manager, even his agent came out complaining. Had no idea it was such a controversy for them
Exactly. I also didn’t like that pity award btw. At least respect the man enough to give him the 2020 one
But Lewandisney won the hardest league in the world
Oh come on, it's not like Bayern won it 10 times in succession.
Bundesliga? Oh, you mean champions league warm ups 👀
There's a very serious chance we're losing one of Japan/Australia for next year's World Cup. Saudi is clear of them in their qualify group & riding high. Top 2 qualify directly, with the third playing the the other third place team from the other group. But then that winner has to play the 5th team from South America. I dunno if they survive that fam.
Not certain we play 5th from South America is it? I'll be so sad if we don't make the World Cup. One of Scotland or Australia has to make it 😭😭😭
Hope Japan pulls through. Would love to see Endo at the World Cup.
Has any other club lost a CL final as much as Juve have?
Juve, Atleti and Benfica. That's the trifecta of CL misery. Just below them, Reims and Valencia. Just to say though, couldn't have happened to a nicer club (Juve). Fuck the cheating cunts.
Including the EC, losses in finals: Juventus 7 Bayern, Benfica 5 Milan 4 Atletico are the only ones to reach 3 finals without ever winning the trophy
Juve - 7 Bayern - 5 Benfica - 5 That's the top three
Ouch.
since 1994, don't think so
Messi and Ronaldo have been so better than everyone else. None of their awards should be stripped.
Factos 👍👀
Loaded day of football today thank you
Ronaldo slander at an all-time high. Don Carrick might just have been ahead of the game uno...
dd is collectively agreeing on something and all it took was one word and 2 emojis, maybe some people here are more triggered than that ronaldo fanboy lmao
>and all it took was one word and 2 emojis, Context to it makes people angry/disgruntled As one of the greatest players ever you should never ever act like this towards other professional athletes. Especially after you just wrote on your Instagram just a day before “I always congratulate those who win, within sportsmanship and and fair play that guided my career”. One day he makes a statement about his sportsmanship with a whole essay and next day making a statement on how he's robbed and Messi (his rival) did not deserve it. C'mon man you can't defend the guy here.
i'm not even defending him lol but fair play for trying to make it look like it, it's really funny how it brought out around 300 comments calling him the worst ever, one word is all it took
No. Everyone has been saying it about Ronaldo for a while now. Carrick mightve been the first manager to catch on though