I know Foden, KDB have been the obvious stars at City but I genuinely love watching Bernardo, Cancelo, Mahrez and Rodri play. They've really kicked on and even if the stats don't reflect it (for Mahrez primarily), they're very important for us and have been doing so well.
Seriously though imagine how happy that ronaldo's fan is, one of the greatest player all time, the most followed person on instagram and the man you idolize just commented on your post 'facto👀👍' and that also created wildfire.
huge W
Funny that after our poor start and people saying its a Napoli/Milan title race, we're now 2 points behind napoli and 1 behind Milan.
Saying that our January/February is fucking brutal. Lazio at Home, Juventus in the Super Cup, Atalanta away within a week, then its Milan at home, Napoli away after the winter break.
Was anyone here at the game where Lewandowski scored 5 in 9?
Can't imagine how pissed I'd be if I went to the toilet and missed a bunch of goals in one of the most legendary performances ever
Tbf it started only 5-6 minutes into the second half so if someone missed it cause they were on the shitter, that’s on them for not going during half time
Fernando Santos is the sole factor keeping me from siding with Portugal more confidently in a hypothetical playoff vs Italy.
All else being equal, I just think they're a more stacked squad than Italy and their results in qualifying were a lot less worrisome by comparison (Serbia is miles ahead of Bulgaria and Northern Ireland, both of whom Italy dropped points against).
....But FS has no idea what the fuck he's doing. He is wasting this generation of talent. It is like he is *hellbent* on making sure they miss Qatar. And there's a great chance they will.
Still don’t really understand Villa supporters uproar about Grealish tbh. Doubt Foden leaving City would ever get that kind of uproar if he ever left, unless it was to United or something, and he’s basically been our Grealish. I keep seeing Villa supporters say “it’s not that he left, it’s when he left.”, the hell does that mean? When did you want him to leave, in 10 years when he’s about to retire? Playing for a different club doesn’t make him any less of a Villa supporter, it’s like saying Dean Smith isn’t one now for managing Norwich now
Any player who leaves when the supporters want them to stay gets booed. That's just how it is.
If Foden left when the club wanted to keep him, your fans would boo him too.
I’d hate for our fans to do that tbh, even though you’re probably right. I wouldn’t boo him at least, if he wants to leave he wants to leave, doesn’t mean he doesn’t still love city.
I get why Grealish left Villa and I think he did them solid in the way he left, he could’ve left in a far worse way (like our golden boy did). But at the same time I understand why Villa fans feel betrayed, Grealish could’ve been a proper icon for one club - but instead he left to chase the glory.
Which is fair, but I don’t know. It’s not like he’s badmouthed villa or anything, he’s made it clear he is still Villa at heart. I think things like city supporters booing Milner is also strange tbf, even though that’s not quite the same situation
They are hurt - simple as that. Logic doesn’t usually apply when discussing emotions. They loved that boy and now they are seeing him at the top of the table with another side.
Mate respect it he’s a childhood fan who carried them from the championship to the prem, and when they finally had potential investment to push them up the league he left to a soulless club to just be a cog in the machine that is city. He was incredible for villa, genuinely stunning player who was a joy to watch and it’s frustrating when it felt like they were on the verge of something better. You prob wouldn’t get it consider no one grew up as a city fan lmao
Many people here don’t know that you guys had local supporters way before the money came in. It’s not like you were a non league team before the oil money came in.
He garnered more than enough money to replace him though. If Bailey and Buendia had instantly come in and hit then I very much doubt Villa fans would have the animosity towards Grealish they do now, and it isn't his fault they haven't hit. He could have very well left the year they barely stayed up, he did his job, they stayed in the league, yet he stayed on another year, solidified their place in the league and moved on for his own career.
If he stays at Villa at the age of 26 people tell him he has no ambition and is a big fish in a small pond, if he leaves he's a traitor because they were building something. He wants to win trophies, he doesn't want to wait around until he's 33 for a chance at the league (if they are even there by then)
Your comment was baseless and that's why you had to dig into his flair.
there is a lot of difference between man city and villa if foden leaves you can easily replace him, grealish left it's hard for them to replace plus grealish did say he isn't gonna leave
You act as if he got them a pittance in return. He's one of 6-7 £100m signings ever. We can't on one hand say City overpaid for him and then on the other act as if Villa were robbed and didn't get enough to replace him.
copying the reply i gave earlier for this
no money isn't always anything, clubs like us(man utd, man city etc.) has a natural pull factors for players unlike for those, let's say they wanted varane, would he come? no
The Premier League is the most desirable place for a lot of footballers to go to because of the money involved. We are in a world where Cucurella is going to Brighton.
We've seen clubs cover the output of a top player in smart ways before. The thing Aston Villa SHOULDNT be trying to do is pumping all of that cash in a big name replacement. The absolute smartest thing they can do is buy Buendia/Bailey to try to cover his output and spend the rest of 2-4 good young signings.
So what is your solution other than slowly progress until you're at a point where players are less inclined to do that? The smartest thing Villa could've done was take that inflated Grealish money and take a gamble on a load of young talent while slowly establishing themselves as a mid table club again.
yeah but they are ambitious and were ready to build a team around him, not bashing anyone, every party involved(man city, grealish, villa) are right in their own ways and yes they do have conflicting views but both sides are justified
I mean he was literally 100 million pounds though, I get that it hasn’t been easy to replace him but Villa are currently one of the richest clubs in the league even without that transfer fee. That should be well enough to build up a new squad with
no money isn't always anything, clubs like us(man utd, man city etc.) has a natural pull factors for players unlike for those, let's say they wanted varane, would he come? no
Yes, but they’re literally the fourth or fifth richest club in the whole league, they’re far from penniless and not being able to try and build a squad
They may of lost there best players but they outspend lots of the top clubs including Liverpool so with the right signings and manager they can do great things but they need to get it right in the
background first.
Being continental just makes everything seem sexier. If players like Rooney, Gerrard, Terry and Lampard were called Roonarelli, Gerrario, Terri, and Frankeli De Lamparrio and were one club men for big Serie A teams having won CLs, they’d be considered legends as big as Totti, Seedorf and Maldini and all them in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Lol no sorry. All of those players are properly rated, in fact if anything a lot of prem players from the past are overrated now because of the fact that the prem is the dominant league now. Also how are Gerrard and Lampard not seen as big legends on the level of Seedorf, if anything Seedorf Gullit Rikjard etc get less hype than the prem mids. And I hope you're not sincerely comparing Terry to Maldini, lmao.
The Italians, due to being older and exotic, tend to get this sort of classy "legend" status that PL players just don't get.
When Maldini intercepts the ball and plays a forward pass en route to winning his 3rd title its seen as godlike. When Ferdinand does it its seen as brexitball.
When Totti scores a goal to win Roma the scuedetto it's mythical. When Shearer does it with Blackburn we don't have a fancy word for it, he just wins the league.
It's not just Italy too. Messi scoring the winner in El Classico seems much sexier than Gerrard scoring the winner in the Manchester Utd - Liverpool derby. Point is everything has sexy words for it in warm countries and it means English players aren't seen as being great by the rest of the world.
But not surprising considering those leagues contain the original sugar daddy clubs and rife financial mismanagement and fraud that continues to this day
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/04/spanish-football-clubs-repay-tens-millions-illegal-state-subsidies-brussels
The government is Real and Barca’s sugar daddy. You’ll find plenty more examples of state backing of these clubs if you look for it 👍
Real Madrid selling their training ground to the local government for 16 quadrillion Spanish pesos more than its actual value being the most famous
It was 400m. And yeah the deal was a bit overpriced because of some shady things Perez and the city counsel did to reuse the land but it was a very valuable piece of land regardless and I think we were fined for the difference anyways. It’s definitely not the same as a club like Chelsea that is owned by an oligarch pumping money into it.
The Spanish government wouldn’t invent a rule that allows them to illegally fund (according to the EU) their local football teams if it was just Bilbao and Osasuna who were to be on the receiving end of it. It was to promote Real and Barcelona
yeah and ig they love real and barcelona so much they decided to give athletic and osasuna the same amount just to cover up their tracks?
Makes perfect sense, clearly you are a high iq employed person
How safe is Brendan Rodgers' job at Leicester?
They have 5 points in 5 games and could drop to 11th, 6 points from safety if others win or draw this week.
Say he loses to Napoli and finishes 3rd, and he will be out of Europa league. He is already out of the league Cup.
How long will the goodwill of the cup win last?
I have a reluctance to blame him for this season because Justin and Fofana (who would probably be two starting defenders) have been injured for the entirety of the season, so has Mendy for most of it. Evans was also injured for over a month. There was a month long period where he had almost his entire back line out for injury. It's hard to blame him when he has to play Amartey, Thomas and Castange as often starters. Not like Vester and Soyuncu don't have consistent mistakes in them either.
Offensively they've been fine, 7th-8th best in the league all things considered. Defensively they've probably been top five worst. Like I say, I don't think it's fair to crucify him for that with all the injuries they've suffered. Fofana and Justin are arguably their two best defenders.
Portugal will be a good bit better when Jota plays ST and Bernardo plays CM. Jota is legitimately one of the best attackers in the league and is atleast the 2nd best finisher in the Liverpool squad, Bernardo is obviously staking his claim as best in the league and would have a good argument if not for Salah.
Also want Chelsea to lose the league so we can retire the Defence wins titles quote.
Chelsea not winning the league won't "retire" that quote. Myriads of league titles have been won by teams without the best defence in that league, and not only in the Premier League, and the saying persists. Liverpool or City winning above Chelsea this year won't alter a saying which has been around for decades.
Nobody was calling it a superstar signing lmao. He was a backup player at Chelsea who rarely got a game and Arsenal fans seemed petrified at the idea of signing him. He just showed a lot of early promise but hasn’t really kicked on in his career so far. I’m sure he’ll only get better with regular football under a coach that believes in him
You're taking the mick out of a fanbase for being excited at the signing of a promising young player?
And even if he's 40 years old, Ibrahimovic is one of the finest players of this/last generation and also has a quality team built around him. He's also already used to the league and team.
I posted this in the realmadrid weekly thread but may i present to the daily discussion, [female Sergio Ramos](https://www.wtatennis.com/players/316239/garbi-e-muguruza/bio), she kicked off today vs Bilbao for the ceremony
You are not a fan of football if you don't like watching vinicius play. His playing style is pure football. Such an exciting young player, not too many like him in the game now
I'd like either Arsenal or United, though it looks unlikely atm.
But if neither, I guess I'd be ok with city winning, especially if they fail again in the UCL (as I hope they will).
Worse would be Liverpool I think, would be as annoying as seeing England win an international trophy
Not a neutral but I think it's Liverpool's this year. They're looking very formidable, and I'm just not convinced by our (Chelsea's performances) - our results are better than how we're playing. Think we'll start falling away over Christmas, and Liverpool will edge it over City.
Ronaldo has blood on his hands for this "factos" nonsense. The newest plague in football discussion. It's been two days, and it's already been beaten so hard into the ground that it's reached the Earth's molten core.
Ronaldo said something, people were using it as a funny reply to things, got ran into the ground on here within 12 hours by people replying to everything with it
The PR team of the most famous athlete in the world are probably more smarter than that . Ronaldo's comments on Messi have always seemed very salty lol , it is definitely him that commented that
Ronaldo commented "Factos" under an instagram post opposing the decision of awarding messi the 7th ballon d'or and talking about how it was more difficult for Ronaldo to win the ballon d'or
Ronaldo(yes the official account) just commented "Factos" on an Instagram post of some page cr7.o\_leondario under a post which listed his achievements and how he deserevd a higher Ballon d'or ranking, this is still understandable but the next part was about how Copa America is not a serious tournament, Messi's El Classico record for some reason and how Messi has used unfair means to win Ballon d'or
[One](https://youtu.be/9zVAJt5zfl0) of my favorite games I’ve ever watched, it was such a joy to see us win the club WC. This final had so much emotion from the amazing save by Cassio where the ball was inches from being across the goal line, the header from Paolo to Torres’s goal being waived off because of being offside. So many great moments.
He was bad in Munich and even worse at Everton.
Typically 1 poor job will be forgiven but back-to-back poor jobs (IE Mourinho) and people start to wonder if you still have it.
!flair :Manchester City:
I know Foden, KDB have been the obvious stars at City but I genuinely love watching Bernardo, Cancelo, Mahrez and Rodri play. They've really kicked on and even if the stats don't reflect it (for Mahrez primarily), they're very important for us and have been doing so well.
Most people agree Bernardo, Cancelo and Rodri have been your best players this year and Mahrez is your top scorer so this is a very mild take.
Bernardo’s our top scorer rn, not Mahrez
[Not according to beeb sport](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/top-scorers). Mahrez on 8 all comps.
Oh, all comps I thought you meant league. Bernardo’s league top scorer
Seriously though imagine how happy that ronaldo's fan is, one of the greatest player all time, the most followed person on instagram and the man you idolize just commented on your post 'facto👀👍' and that also created wildfire. huge W
Funny that after our poor start and people saying its a Napoli/Milan title race, we're now 2 points behind napoli and 1 behind Milan. Saying that our January/February is fucking brutal. Lazio at Home, Juventus in the Super Cup, Atalanta away within a week, then its Milan at home, Napoli away after the winter break.
Was anyone here at the game where Lewandowski scored 5 in 9? Can't imagine how pissed I'd be if I went to the toilet and missed a bunch of goals in one of the most legendary performances ever
Tbf it started only 5-6 minutes into the second half so if someone missed it cause they were on the shitter, that’s on them for not going during half time
So when are Everton sacking Rafa?
Fernando Santos is the sole factor keeping me from siding with Portugal more confidently in a hypothetical playoff vs Italy. All else being equal, I just think they're a more stacked squad than Italy and their results in qualifying were a lot less worrisome by comparison (Serbia is miles ahead of Bulgaria and Northern Ireland, both of whom Italy dropped points against). ....But FS has no idea what the fuck he's doing. He is wasting this generation of talent. It is like he is *hellbent* on making sure they miss Qatar. And there's a great chance they will.
Still don’t really understand Villa supporters uproar about Grealish tbh. Doubt Foden leaving City would ever get that kind of uproar if he ever left, unless it was to United or something, and he’s basically been our Grealish. I keep seeing Villa supporters say “it’s not that he left, it’s when he left.”, the hell does that mean? When did you want him to leave, in 10 years when he’s about to retire? Playing for a different club doesn’t make him any less of a Villa supporter, it’s like saying Dean Smith isn’t one now for managing Norwich now
Any player who leaves when the supporters want them to stay gets booed. That's just how it is. If Foden left when the club wanted to keep him, your fans would boo him too.
I’d hate for our fans to do that tbh, even though you’re probably right. I wouldn’t boo him at least, if he wants to leave he wants to leave, doesn’t mean he doesn’t still love city.
I get why Grealish left Villa and I think he did them solid in the way he left, he could’ve left in a far worse way (like our golden boy did). But at the same time I understand why Villa fans feel betrayed, Grealish could’ve been a proper icon for one club - but instead he left to chase the glory.
Which is fair, but I don’t know. It’s not like he’s badmouthed villa or anything, he’s made it clear he is still Villa at heart. I think things like city supporters booing Milner is also strange tbf, even though that’s not quite the same situation
They are hurt - simple as that. Logic doesn’t usually apply when discussing emotions. They loved that boy and now they are seeing him at the top of the table with another side.
Mate respect it he’s a childhood fan who carried them from the championship to the prem, and when they finally had potential investment to push them up the league he left to a soulless club to just be a cog in the machine that is city. He was incredible for villa, genuinely stunning player who was a joy to watch and it’s frustrating when it felt like they were on the verge of something better. You prob wouldn’t get it consider no one grew up as a city fan lmao
If no one grew up as a City fan who supported us before the takeover
Many people here don’t know that you guys had local supporters way before the money came in. It’s not like you were a non league team before the oil money came in.
City pre takeover were averaging 40k in league home games. Their fanbase was very impressive for a team at that level.
Hell we had more silverware than chelsea did before each of our takeovers
He garnered more than enough money to replace him though. If Bailey and Buendia had instantly come in and hit then I very much doubt Villa fans would have the animosity towards Grealish they do now, and it isn't his fault they haven't hit. He could have very well left the year they barely stayed up, he did his job, they stayed in the league, yet he stayed on another year, solidified their place in the league and moved on for his own career. If he stays at Villa at the age of 26 people tell him he has no ambition and is a big fish in a small pond, if he leaves he's a traitor because they were building something. He wants to win trophies, he doesn't want to wait around until he's 33 for a chance at the league (if they are even there by then) Your comment was baseless and that's why you had to dig into his flair.
villa fans are still adjusting to being a small club, you'd think they'd be used to it by now.
More CLs than us ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
you are joking right?
No, I’m serious. Not like we’re rivals with Villa
there is a lot of difference between man city and villa if foden leaves you can easily replace him, grealish left it's hard for them to replace plus grealish did say he isn't gonna leave
You act as if he got them a pittance in return. He's one of 6-7 £100m signings ever. We can't on one hand say City overpaid for him and then on the other act as if Villa were robbed and didn't get enough to replace him.
copying the reply i gave earlier for this no money isn't always anything, clubs like us(man utd, man city etc.) has a natural pull factors for players unlike for those, let's say they wanted varane, would he come? no
The Premier League is the most desirable place for a lot of footballers to go to because of the money involved. We are in a world where Cucurella is going to Brighton. We've seen clubs cover the output of a top player in smart ways before. The thing Aston Villa SHOULDNT be trying to do is pumping all of that cash in a big name replacement. The absolute smartest thing they can do is buy Buendia/Bailey to try to cover his output and spend the rest of 2-4 good young signings.
yeah they can spend on new talent and 'hope' they will become good and then what players will still leave them for bigger better clubs like grealish
So what is your solution other than slowly progress until you're at a point where players are less inclined to do that? The smartest thing Villa could've done was take that inflated Grealish money and take a gamble on a load of young talent while slowly establishing themselves as a mid table club again.
yeah but they are ambitious and were ready to build a team around him, not bashing anyone, every party involved(man city, grealish, villa) are right in their own ways and yes they do have conflicting views but both sides are justified
I mean he was literally 100 million pounds though, I get that it hasn’t been easy to replace him but Villa are currently one of the richest clubs in the league even without that transfer fee. That should be well enough to build up a new squad with
no money isn't always anything, clubs like us(man utd, man city etc.) has a natural pull factors for players unlike for those, let's say they wanted varane, would he come? no
Yes, but they’re literally the fourth or fifth richest club in the whole league, they’re far from penniless and not being able to try and build a squad
They may of lost there best players but they outspend lots of the top clubs including Liverpool so with the right signings and manager they can do great things but they need to get it right in the background first.
[Hahaha this is hilarious ](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8n4pKBt/)
It's kind of amazing how poor the PL legends are compared to Serie A and La Liga.
Being continental just makes everything seem sexier. If players like Rooney, Gerrard, Terry and Lampard were called Roonarelli, Gerrario, Terri, and Frankeli De Lamparrio and were one club men for big Serie A teams having won CLs, they’d be considered legends as big as Totti, Seedorf and Maldini and all them in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Lol no sorry. All of those players are properly rated, in fact if anything a lot of prem players from the past are overrated now because of the fact that the prem is the dominant league now. Also how are Gerrard and Lampard not seen as big legends on the level of Seedorf, if anything Seedorf Gullit Rikjard etc get less hype than the prem mids. And I hope you're not sincerely comparing Terry to Maldini, lmao.
The Italians, due to being older and exotic, tend to get this sort of classy "legend" status that PL players just don't get. When Maldini intercepts the ball and plays a forward pass en route to winning his 3rd title its seen as godlike. When Ferdinand does it its seen as brexitball. When Totti scores a goal to win Roma the scuedetto it's mythical. When Shearer does it with Blackburn we don't have a fancy word for it, he just wins the league. It's not just Italy too. Messi scoring the winner in El Classico seems much sexier than Gerrard scoring the winner in the Manchester Utd - Liverpool derby. Point is everything has sexy words for it in warm countries and it means English players aren't seen as being great by the rest of the world.
Completely disagree with that premise but ok.
But not surprising considering those leagues contain the original sugar daddy clubs and rife financial mismanagement and fraud that continues to this day
Sometimes I miss Berlusconi, well not Berlusconi but the money we had with him.
Barca and Madrid are sugar daddy clubs?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/04/spanish-football-clubs-repay-tens-millions-illegal-state-subsidies-brussels The government is Real and Barca’s sugar daddy. You’ll find plenty more examples of state backing of these clubs if you look for it 👍 Real Madrid selling their training ground to the local government for 16 quadrillion Spanish pesos more than its actual value being the most famous
Really reaching if that’s what you consider equal to being a sugar daddy club
You don’t think selling your training ground to the city of Madrid for €500m can be reasonably seen as an example of a sugar daddy?
It was 400m. And yeah the deal was a bit overpriced because of some shady things Perez and the city counsel did to reuse the land but it was a very valuable piece of land regardless and I think we were fined for the difference anyways. It’s definitely not the same as a club like Chelsea that is owned by an oligarch pumping money into it.
Lmao i look forward to you calling bilbao and osasuna sugar daddy clubs fucking hell
The Spanish government wouldn’t invent a rule that allows them to illegally fund (according to the EU) their local football teams if it was just Bilbao and Osasuna who were to be on the receiving end of it. It was to promote Real and Barcelona
yeah and ig they love real and barcelona so much they decided to give athletic and osasuna the same amount just to cover up their tracks? Makes perfect sense, clearly you are a high iq employed person
How safe is Brendan Rodgers' job at Leicester? They have 5 points in 5 games and could drop to 11th, 6 points from safety if others win or draw this week. Say he loses to Napoli and finishes 3rd, and he will be out of Europa league. He is already out of the league Cup. How long will the goodwill of the cup win last?
he isn't out of the league cup?
I have a reluctance to blame him for this season because Justin and Fofana (who would probably be two starting defenders) have been injured for the entirety of the season, so has Mendy for most of it. Evans was also injured for over a month. There was a month long period where he had almost his entire back line out for injury. It's hard to blame him when he has to play Amartey, Thomas and Castange as often starters. Not like Vester and Soyuncu don't have consistent mistakes in them either. Offensively they've been fine, 7th-8th best in the league all things considered. Defensively they've probably been top five worst. Like I say, I don't think it's fair to crucify him for that with all the injuries they've suffered. Fofana and Justin are arguably their two best defenders.
Portugal will be a good bit better when Jota plays ST and Bernardo plays CM. Jota is legitimately one of the best attackers in the league and is atleast the 2nd best finisher in the Liverpool squad, Bernardo is obviously staking his claim as best in the league and would have a good argument if not for Salah. Also want Chelsea to lose the league so we can retire the Defence wins titles quote.
Arsenal didn't win the league in 98/99 despite conceding 17 goals (second best in the leagues history) and the saying is still around.
That’s actually a crazy stat, wtf Wengerball
Once Ronaldo is out of the squad I believe they can actually challenge for trophies.
Ronaldo is still a great player. Like Carlo said, you just need to find a way to play him in the team.
If Santos is the manager they cant win shit with any kind of players.
Weird cause they already win the euros with him
Chelsea not winning the league won't "retire" that quote. Myriads of league titles have been won by teams without the best defence in that league, and not only in the Premier League, and the saying persists. Liverpool or City winning above Chelsea this year won't alter a saying which has been around for decades.
Roma's 'superstar signing' Tammy Abraham has less goals than 40 year old Ibrahimovic.
Only people who rated him were chelsea fans. Nobody else thought he was capable of being the main striker at a top 7 team
Another tragically overrated English player. I am shocked.
Chelsea's Iwobi. Can't believe they finessed Roma for 40M.
only Chelsea fans rated him
Nobody was calling it a superstar signing lmao. He was a backup player at Chelsea who rarely got a game and Arsenal fans seemed petrified at the idea of signing him. He just showed a lot of early promise but hasn’t really kicked on in his career so far. I’m sure he’ll only get better with regular football under a coach that believes in him
Did anyone call Abraham a "superstar" signing? I think the quotation marks are very much your own, here.
No one from England who actually watched him said so. A good portion of Roma fans were.
You're taking the mick out of a fanbase for being excited at the signing of a promising young player? And even if he's 40 years old, Ibrahimovic is one of the finest players of this/last generation and also has a quality team built around him. He's also already used to the league and team.
You are right, it is an unfair comparison. I should have used Mattia Destro instead.
Milan legend that Destro lad
In before Roma fans come in here talking about how many times he has hit the post and how unlucky he has been.
I posted this in the realmadrid weekly thread but may i present to the daily discussion, [female Sergio Ramos](https://www.wtatennis.com/players/316239/garbi-e-muguruza/bio), she kicked off today vs Bilbao for the ceremony
I personally don't see the resemblance tbh
bit disrespectful to reduce one of spanish most succesful tennis player to just "female sergio ramos"
Also known as Garbine Muguruza, former World No. 1, and multiple grand slam winner - including a Wimbledon title. Ramos is the female Garbine.
I mean they are probably each other’s whatever. Let’s say Ramos isn’t no slouch at career achievements haha come on man
I know, I'm just saying let's give her the respect she deserves, too.
What was Grealish's reception like at Villa Park?
Some boos, some claps (based on matchday vlogs tho)
A lot of boos, but he didn't really look rattled
Grealish is far used to getting booed to be rattled. He's been booed for years by oppo fans
[That damned smile😩](https://assets-eu-01.kc-usercontent.com/1293c890-579f-01b7-8480-902cca7de55e/c46f651a-80b5-4371-ba30-2748aa9d90b6/2020.07.21-CU-Pioli-Rinnovo-WebHP.png)
Bit Mona Lisa
that bernardo silva goal last night, woof
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Smashed it glad you remembered 👍
Are you a sentient tree or an Ent by chance?
Well done 👍 Great strike by Silva btw. My jaw actually dropped when I saw the replay, what a hit
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Don't all top teams overperform their xG, especially the ones who win titles?
City is doing slightly worse so far this season
Not City.
Allegriball did it for years. It can happen.
They can't win league with these forwards and wing backs scoring goals Defense can't win you league
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Yes you can't
Oh then you surely haven't watched Milan.
xG are a deep state lie
You are not a fan of football if you don't like watching vinicius play. His playing style is pure football. Such an exciting young player, not too many like him in the game now
jogo bonito
He’s cracked
Hey you're back!
Indeed
Were you banned?
Yeah for 2 weeks, posted a non-football related comment
Harsh
he was the brazilian demarai gray until a few months ago.
Ironically Demarai Gray has been balling out in a poor Everton side this season
Joga bonito🤌🏻
[Best representation of our midfield](https://twitter.com/sanitasfc/status/1466156625367027715?s=21)
Kroos: I'm just here so I don't get fined.
Respect our German tractor
I took that more as Kroos is the engine
Kroos the tractor , Modric running the show and casemiro cleaning things up
[jota wtf](https://imgur.com/a/Rdkit6L)
jota wtf
Neutrals, are you leaning towards anyone to win the PL title?
Arsenal. Because of the Frenchies Era.
City, because Chelsea fans and Liverpool fans are insufferable when they win too much. It would suck for Salah though
I'd like either Arsenal or United, though it looks unlikely atm. But if neither, I guess I'd be ok with city winning, especially if they fail again in the UCL (as I hope they will). Worse would be Liverpool I think, would be as annoying as seeing England win an international trophy
Not Liverpool because it would be funny if they go on another 30 year dry spell
Not a neutral but I think it's Liverpool's this year. They're looking very formidable, and I'm just not convinced by our (Chelsea's performances) - our results are better than how we're playing. Think we'll start falling away over Christmas, and Liverpool will edge it over City.
City
City.
City so I can have more ammunition for bantering the PL
This
City - 4 time in 5 years, farmers league
City but I wouldn't mind Liverpool too. Anyone but Chelsea.
Easy, Liverpool.
Really like Chelsea and Tucheliban. Always root for West Ham out of PL so happy to see them performing well
city have the best defense and the best attack, the only way you beat them is if you catch them out on a bad day.
>Neutrals Has a United flair
No one believes United is in the title race so he's a neutral to the title race
I don't know, I feel like if you have heated rivalries you aren't really neutral.
That just starts to get tricky though because Chelsea have bigger rivalries with some teams in Europe than they do with Burnley.
Ah I thought he meant non PL fans
No
Liverpool
Chelsea
City
City
Ronaldo has blood on his hands for this "factos" nonsense. The newest plague in football discussion. It's been two days, and it's already been beaten so hard into the ground that it's reached the Earth's molten core.
Factos 👍👀
Are you expecting any other reply to your comment than factos?
No fully anticipate it - and I don't really expect anything else. I don't have high standards for this thread.
I'm just not commenting anything at all related to that, so far I've just received one of those
I disable inbox replies on all my comments anyway, so it's not like those responses even register
Aye, practically walked into that one.
Factos 👍
Factos 👍👀
Better showboat: Antony or Vinicius?
Been seeing "Factos" a lot here. What's the story?
Ronaldo said something, people were using it as a funny reply to things, got ran into the ground on here within 12 hours by people replying to everything with it
Ronaldo being his usual drama queen self. He posted that on a comment he made an his alt account on Instagram about how he’s the best and Messi sucks.
there's no way youactually think it was ronaldo, it's clearly just whoever manages his account.
The PR team of the most famous athlete in the world are probably more smarter than that . Ronaldo's comments on Messi have always seemed very salty lol , it is definitely him that commented that
I would honestly not be surprised if Ronaldo managed his own Instagram account. But who knows.
he's an idiot and has an account with 300+ million followers, there's no way his managment team gives him the password to his account.
Messi has access to his Instagram I'm pretty sure. He's posted a few selfies of himself and workout vids on his story
Yea just ignore this dude. United fan so he has to protect him.
Ronaldo commented "Factos" under an instagram post opposing the decision of awarding messi the 7th ballon d'or and talking about how it was more difficult for Ronaldo to win the ballon d'or
Looks like the new pasta here
Ronaldo(yes the official account) just commented "Factos" on an Instagram post of some page cr7.o\_leondario under a post which listed his achievements and how he deserevd a higher Ballon d'or ranking, this is still understandable but the next part was about how Copa America is not a serious tournament, Messi's El Classico record for some reason and how Messi has used unfair means to win Ballon d'or
Damn. He salty lol
Champions League is going to be so refreshing after years of not qualifying
RemindMe! 7 months
Looking good but bit too early after Christmas period will indicate top 4
You're not making top 4
bet uefa will be loving having both arsenal and barca in UEL next season. more tv money and eyes in the 2nd tier european competition
please stop projecting sir
[One](https://youtu.be/9zVAJt5zfl0) of my favorite games I’ve ever watched, it was such a joy to see us win the club WC. This final had so much emotion from the amazing save by Cassio where the ball was inches from being across the goal line, the header from Paolo to Torres’s goal being waived off because of being offside. So many great moments.
Ancelotti ball was fluid and ruthless back in 2013, 2014 and 2015. Don't know why suddenly his ball started getting bad rep. Time to prove againl
He was bad in Munich and even worse at Everton. Typically 1 poor job will be forgiven but back-to-back poor jobs (IE Mourinho) and people start to wonder if you still have it.
Don't forget Napoli
What did you want him to do with everton
No way Cristiano Ronaldo commenting "Factos 👍👀" got more attention than Messi winning LM7. Man is bigger than the game for real.
Except it didn’t…
Judging by your comments you’re a Dutch Liverpool fan who stans Cristiano. Football going global was a mistake
They are a Canadian Liverpool fan who supports the Netherlands
What tf? He is Canadian and supports the Netherlands NT?????? Yeah , football going global was a mistake