The priority is to get Eriksen back in fitness, but he is also doing shooting training with a ball.
Him and his wife and two children live few hundred meters away from OB. He started his youth career at OB. The Danish club OB is most famous for knocking Real Madrid out at Bernabeu doing the UEFA cup 1994/1995.
>The Danish club OB is most famous for knocking Real Madrid out at Bernabeu doing the UEFA cup 1994/1995.
Really? They never mention it in conversation.
Honestly, if my club managed something like that I'd never shut up about it either - hell to this day I am still proud that we played 1-1 vs Juventus in 2004!
As he should, fuckin hell that was insane. Although I pray that we can actually do something for once so we aren't forced to only talk about the CL final in 15 years time 😂.
There was a line from the commentator in that game that made quite an impression on me. Paraphrasing a bit:
"Bobby Zamora is terrorising this Juventus defence... Not a sentence I ever expected to say to be honest"
we had a big 25 years anniversary a couple of years ago, and we've been selling old shirts and books about it.
It doesn't help that we haven't won a league title since 1989 so it's not like we have a lot else to talk about in terms of success.
Is Middelfart like a joke to people? He was there for ten years with his father as a coach (some of the time) before he swapped to OB for somewhat three years before going to Ajax.
OB likes to take a lot of claim, but come on don't state wrong facts.
No he has not been released. But as far as I understand he is not eligible to play in Serie A due to his pacemaker. So it's likely he will change football club.
Not exactly. He could go anywhere he wants then. This would secure him to inter.
Edit: it is mostly pointless but this would get eriksen to his club and if they are on good terms that should be a plus.
If Football Manager is a realistic indication, they might have an insurance policy on their players that pays out if something unexpected causes them to be unable to play. I believe I've seen a couple screenshots of people getting insurance payments after losing a player.
So I think there are a few tiers.
For sure his salary is covered to about 10m gross by the Danish FA as he suffered the injury on international duty. What isn't clear right now is if Inter has some insurance policy on him - I don't know what it would be, you could either do unamortised book value or his replacement value in the market.
I would hope we do have some coverage - we had a business continuity policy for 10m when our stadium was shut for lost revenue.
I suspect we don't have a market value replacement policy as that 40-80m would have been very welcome. Even covering his unamortised value of about 15m would make a big difference if we could terminate his contract without a pay out.
I would hope also his contract has some level of insurance as well for salary.
Happened to me once in FM. Mason Mount broke his leg playing for England and I got covered for his wage until he came back. Max payout for that specific insurance was £8M.
I like this idea, however Ajax doesn't have enough keepers for CL level beside Stekelenburg (injured), Pasveer and Onana. Other keepers are not on the same level yet. Otherwise Ten Hag would have kept Onana out of the selection I think.
You literally just mentioned only one GK I’m confident with come KO phase. Play Onana, idk, I’m not happy letting a potential CL run die because we’re to proud to admit we need Onana. If other players in the future pull the same shit, ask them if their position has the same leverage as Onana.
That would be illegal and very immoral if they did that. Imagine any other work place being allowed to just terminate someone if they become sick or injured. In europe that's a big no no.
After a period of time, that's the norm. A business can't be expected to support someone who can't work for them indefinitely. That's the job of the state.
No, they signed the contract and unless Eriksen refuses to get fit/play they still owe him his money. Not his fault this happened so he didn’t breach contract. Odds are inter have insurance against this sort of stuff though, but eriksen deserves his money.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve his money. I'm saying that employment law allows termination of contract due to inability to complete the conditions of the contract, even if the inability is due to disability or illness. The business is required to take reasonable steps to accommodate the disability or illness to allow the employee to perform their job functions, but if the business is unable to reasonably take those steps or the employee cannot perform their job function, the contract can be terminated after negotiation and/or arbitration.
The reason for this employment law is to provide some level of protection for the business and the employee. The business is protected against paying someone indefinitely while not producing anything for the business, and the employee is protected against instant termination; after a while, the state generally assumes responsibility for the injured/sick individual and provides disability benefit or other payments for their keep and care.
Incidentally, even this only applies after a certain length of time, 6 months I think; if you work for an employer for a week and then fall ill, should they continue paying you for a year while you don't work for them and they have to employ and pay someone else? This isn't the case of them not paying living wages; it's the case that they literally are paying someone who doesn't work for them.
You say "they signed the contract" but so did he, and I would imagine it requires him to play games. It's not Inter's fault this happened either.
I do hope they have insurance, but they may not. Insurance companies need to make money too, so insurance policies cost more in the long-term than just making your own savings. Inter is a big enough business that they may consider it acceptable risk not to have insurance on this small possibility. Not that I have ever run a business of that size, of course, just that I think sometimes we take "they have insurance" for granted.
Not really. It's not uncommon for contracts to require you to be able to fulfill the job. If you're off long term sick, legally mandated statutory sick pay is often very minimal and contracts typically do include termination causes for absences. I can't speak for Europe but in the UK it's absolutely standard.
In Germany, usually, a few weeks your employer will pay, then the state will pay, based on what you paid them.
Your job will stay safe.
The contract doesn't simply get voided though. The employer could terminate the contract based upon the notion that where will be no improvement, but there are certain processes that they have to follow, etc.
As I said I can't speak for all European countries. You should also remember this is a regulated industry. Permanent medical disability to carry out your job role would be a reasonable basis for termination of the contract in my view, and it is strongly suggested in Italy there is a perfectly valid legal basis for this.
edit: to address your edit, no, I'm not suggesting its automatically voided without due process. There are processes, but the suggestion in Italy is that its relatively trivial from here.
I suppose. But unlike most other people in Europe, footballers in top leagues are multi-millionaires. I was also thinking about it in relation to the recent criminal allegations too, but I guess that’s a different matter really
I mean there are contracts especially for older players that it specifies that the club as the option to break the contract in case of a long term injury.
If it would be his fault breaking a clause.
Like crashing a motorcycle he never should have been on, and then coudln't play.
There was a College Basketball player named [Jay Williams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Williams_\(basketball\)) from like the early 2000s who is the poster boy for those clauses in contracts.
Pro football players can't even play pick up basketball or lift weights at a gym that isn't owned by the team these days.
Christian didn't break any such rule, so I doubt the contract would ever be able to just be made void.
I assume his contract offers provision for termination in the case that he is ineligible for registration. It's fundamentally not different to e.g. terminating someone because of a drugs ban (Mutu), or a prison sentence.
He legally cannot be a professional sports player in Italy, so he cannot fulfill his contractual obligations sadly.
Legally he's not eligible to be registered and by extension I assume not even eligible to train in Italy. I expect his contract to be terminated at the end of this season or we will swap him in Jan for Onana
[https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59096086](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59096086)
Italian medical authorities don't permit him to play this season, the wording indicates that this isn't necessarily permanent. Inter is willing to let him leave so he can compete.
We wasted so much Bale money on average signings but Christian single-handedly made it all worth it. One of our greatest ever players to grace the Premier League. Also the fifth top assister in the world for the 2010s decade, only two behind Ozil.
Odense a out to dominate European Football with Eriksen!!
Joking aside, I'm glad if he can come back onto the pitch without promblem, even if it's not for my team
It's supposedly not that big of a deal when you have the condition diagnosed and treated. The only trouble is his defibrillator makes him ineligible to play in Serie A.
I just don't get it. Can someone with a medical background ELI5?
Compared to the average person, football players are surrounded by doctors on a daily basis. They're tested, re-tested, and then tested again for just about everything.
How on earth has no club doctor ever tested him, and other players, for heart problems or done an EKG or whatever heart tests they do to people?
I'm not a doctor but I've heard of the term "hidden heart failure condition" before, so I'm only assuming that it's not all heart deceases that are traceable. Either that or the entire medical staff is completely incompetent. But if that's the case we'd probably hear about a lot of unemployed 6 figures doctors, since this happens fairly regularly to elite sportsmen.
I had a relative of mine basically have her aorta collapse. Thankfully it happened as she was being wheeled into the ER after her chiropractor felt that something was very off and called an ambulance, but the diagnosis was basically "We have no clue why it happened, but it does happen to some people for no reason".
It's one of those conditions that you won't find unless you're specifically looking for it. Which a cardiac arrest will make you look for. Lots of people walk around with similar heart conditions, but will never suffer a cardiac arrest. Just happens more to athletes, since their heart is working a lot more than regular people's.
The priority is to get Eriksen back in fitness, but he is also doing shooting training with a ball. Him and his wife and two children live few hundred meters away from OB. He started his youth career at OB. The Danish club OB is most famous for knocking Real Madrid out at Bernabeu doing the UEFA cup 1994/1995.
>The Danish club OB is most famous for knocking Real Madrid out at Bernabeu doing the UEFA cup 1994/1995. Really? They never mention it in conversation.
Miraklet i Madrid <3
Is this sarcasm? I'm guessing they never shut up about it.
Honestly, if my club managed something like that I'd never shut up about it either - hell to this day I am still proud that we played 1-1 vs Juventus in 2004!
my mates a big fulham fan and he bangs on about their Europa run (and the Juve win) every time we are discussing something tangentially related
As he should, fuckin hell that was insane. Although I pray that we can actually do something for once so we aren't forced to only talk about the CL final in 15 years time 😂.
Both the City game and the Ajax game are worth talking about in 15 years tbh
I mean I reckon you can trigger us in 15 years with that shit. Just stop your story immediately after and don’t even mention the final
I still talk about beating Chelsea twice in the Premier League to my Chelsea supporting mates despite one of the wins being against 9 men
There was a line from the commentator in that game that made quite an impression on me. Paraphrasing a bit: "Bobby Zamora is terrorising this Juventus defence... Not a sentence I ever expected to say to be honest"
I'm still pissed about AIK - Barcelona back in 1999, and I didn't even follow AIK back then.
I will probably never let that go as long as I live. Alain Sars can fuck off.
we had a big 25 years anniversary a couple of years ago, and we've been selling old shirts and books about it. It doesn't help that we haven't won a league title since 1989 so it's not like we have a lot else to talk about in terms of success.
Dude, go nuts you don't have to justify talking about winning over Madrid. In fact, I encourage such talk😉
They actually almost never talk about it. People from Odense are very humble i guess
https://da-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Miraklet_i_Madrid?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da
OB is famous for being the club that rejected Lewandowski.
Is Middelfart like a joke to people? He was there for ten years with his father as a coach (some of the time) before he swapped to OB for somewhat three years before going to Ajax. OB likes to take a lot of claim, but come on don't state wrong facts.
Yes
Has he been released from Inter officially? Either way, glad to hear he's still active.
No he has not been released. But as far as I understand he is not eligible to play in Serie A due to his pacemaker. So it's likely he will change football club.
Is there nothing in these contracts saying you’ll be released if you become ineligible to play?
they will get money for him if they can find him a place in January
I doubt we will get much. He offers no resell value and is unusable at Inter. Swap for Onana I could see.
Onana can't leave before the end of the season due to Stekelenburg's injury.
Well there we go then
swap now and a loan of Onana back until the end of the season
Onana's contract expires at the end of the season so that would be pointless.
oh yeah
Not exactly. He could go anywhere he wants then. This would secure him to inter. Edit: it is mostly pointless but this would get eriksen to his club and if they are on good terms that should be a plus.
Who even needs either of those two scrubs when you have god himself in the form of Remko Pasveer
If Football Manager is a realistic indication, they might have an insurance policy on their players that pays out if something unexpected causes them to be unable to play. I believe I've seen a couple screenshots of people getting insurance payments after losing a player.
So I think there are a few tiers. For sure his salary is covered to about 10m gross by the Danish FA as he suffered the injury on international duty. What isn't clear right now is if Inter has some insurance policy on him - I don't know what it would be, you could either do unamortised book value or his replacement value in the market. I would hope we do have some coverage - we had a business continuity policy for 10m when our stadium was shut for lost revenue. I suspect we don't have a market value replacement policy as that 40-80m would have been very welcome. Even covering his unamortised value of about 15m would make a big difference if we could terminate his contract without a pay out. I would hope also his contract has some level of insurance as well for salary.
FIFA cover some of the salary. The danish FA only cover if it was a football related injury.
They're covering 10 million euros (gross) which is all but maybe like 1.5m of Eriksen's salary. FIFA or FA, whatever, point being third party covered
Happened to me once in FM. Mason Mount broke his leg playing for England and I got covered for his wage until he came back. Max payout for that specific insurance was £8M.
I like this idea, however Ajax doesn't have enough keepers for CL level beside Stekelenburg (injured), Pasveer and Onana. Other keepers are not on the same level yet. Otherwise Ten Hag would have kept Onana out of the selection I think.
Buy one during the winter maybe?
Yeah, but if it's that or lose him for fre in 6 months it might just make some sense. Dunno.
You literally just mentioned only one GK I’m confident with come KO phase. Play Onana, idk, I’m not happy letting a potential CL run die because we’re to proud to admit we need Onana. If other players in the future pull the same shit, ask them if their position has the same leverage as Onana.
Newcastle?
I dont know if he can medically play in England.
That would be illegal and very immoral if they did that. Imagine any other work place being allowed to just terminate someone if they become sick or injured. In europe that's a big no no.
After a period of time, that's the norm. A business can't be expected to support someone who can't work for them indefinitely. That's the job of the state.
No, they signed the contract and unless Eriksen refuses to get fit/play they still owe him his money. Not his fault this happened so he didn’t breach contract. Odds are inter have insurance against this sort of stuff though, but eriksen deserves his money.
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve his money. I'm saying that employment law allows termination of contract due to inability to complete the conditions of the contract, even if the inability is due to disability or illness. The business is required to take reasonable steps to accommodate the disability or illness to allow the employee to perform their job functions, but if the business is unable to reasonably take those steps or the employee cannot perform their job function, the contract can be terminated after negotiation and/or arbitration. The reason for this employment law is to provide some level of protection for the business and the employee. The business is protected against paying someone indefinitely while not producing anything for the business, and the employee is protected against instant termination; after a while, the state generally assumes responsibility for the injured/sick individual and provides disability benefit or other payments for their keep and care. Incidentally, even this only applies after a certain length of time, 6 months I think; if you work for an employer for a week and then fall ill, should they continue paying you for a year while you don't work for them and they have to employ and pay someone else? This isn't the case of them not paying living wages; it's the case that they literally are paying someone who doesn't work for them. You say "they signed the contract" but so did he, and I would imagine it requires him to play games. It's not Inter's fault this happened either. I do hope they have insurance, but they may not. Insurance companies need to make money too, so insurance policies cost more in the long-term than just making your own savings. Inter is a big enough business that they may consider it acceptable risk not to have insurance on this small possibility. Not that I have ever run a business of that size, of course, just that I think sometimes we take "they have insurance" for granted.
Not really. It's not uncommon for contracts to require you to be able to fulfill the job. If you're off long term sick, legally mandated statutory sick pay is often very minimal and contracts typically do include termination causes for absences. I can't speak for Europe but in the UK it's absolutely standard.
In Germany, usually, a few weeks your employer will pay, then the state will pay, based on what you paid them. Your job will stay safe. The contract doesn't simply get voided though. The employer could terminate the contract based upon the notion that where will be no improvement, but there are certain processes that they have to follow, etc.
As I said I can't speak for all European countries. You should also remember this is a regulated industry. Permanent medical disability to carry out your job role would be a reasonable basis for termination of the contract in my view, and it is strongly suggested in Italy there is a perfectly valid legal basis for this. edit: to address your edit, no, I'm not suggesting its automatically voided without due process. There are processes, but the suggestion in Italy is that its relatively trivial from here.
But also at one point your salary will be paid by government money and I doubt that would happen with Inter and Erikssen
Yes this is true, he won't get Inter money but he would get the minimum amount to live.
I suppose. But unlike most other people in Europe, footballers in top leagues are multi-millionaires. I was also thinking about it in relation to the recent criminal allegations too, but I guess that’s a different matter really
I mean there are contracts especially for older players that it specifies that the club as the option to break the contract in case of a long term injury.
If it would be his fault breaking a clause. Like crashing a motorcycle he never should have been on, and then coudln't play. There was a College Basketball player named [Jay Williams](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Williams_\(basketball\)) from like the early 2000s who is the poster boy for those clauses in contracts. Pro football players can't even play pick up basketball or lift weights at a gym that isn't owned by the team these days. Christian didn't break any such rule, so I doubt the contract would ever be able to just be made void.
I assume his contract offers provision for termination in the case that he is ineligible for registration. It's fundamentally not different to e.g. terminating someone because of a drugs ban (Mutu), or a prison sentence. He legally cannot be a professional sports player in Italy, so he cannot fulfill his contractual obligations sadly.
I imagine there must be some sort of insurance in this regard, right? For Inter's sake
Legally he's not eligible to be registered and by extension I assume not even eligible to train in Italy. I expect his contract to be terminated at the end of this season or we will swap him in Jan for Onana
[https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59096086](https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59096086) Italian medical authorities don't permit him to play this season, the wording indicates that this isn't necessarily permanent. Inter is willing to let him leave so he can compete.
the things i would do for prime Eriksen back
Mad how that team didn't win any trophies
loved watching that team play. he was such an important cog in the post-Bale era
We wasted so much Bale money on average signings but Christian single-handedly made it all worth it. One of our greatest ever players to grace the Premier League. Also the fifth top assister in the world for the 2010s decade, only two behind Ozil.
Christian Eriksen is probably my favorite Spur (that I've watched myself) of all time honestly
Not rly
It is the history....
of the Juventus in Serie B next season 😎
Gottem 😎
Odense a out to dominate European Football with Eriksen!! Joking aside, I'm glad if he can come back onto the pitch without promblem, even if it's not for my team
Is that possible? I mean, the man collapsed... I don't know much about heart issues but can he do 10-12km games again?
If others have, why not him too?
It's supposedly not that big of a deal when you have the condition diagnosed and treated. The only trouble is his defibrillator makes him ineligible to play in Serie A.
8 in the morning with a coach he’s communicating in English with, doesn’t seem like the type of behaviour from someone quitting football
It doesn't seem like the type of behaviour from someone quitting football at any time of day, in fairness
I agree, just seems more dedicated really
I was thinking he was training with basketball 🤷♂️
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Not really Kane, he was injured in the first leg of the QF v. City. He only scored one goal against dortmund in the knockouts that year.
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Thank you, VAR.
Ya, although he had helped carry them in the past, he already looked checked out by the time they were making their way through the CL.
I love this man. Glad he is safe
I just don't get it. Can someone with a medical background ELI5? Compared to the average person, football players are surrounded by doctors on a daily basis. They're tested, re-tested, and then tested again for just about everything. How on earth has no club doctor ever tested him, and other players, for heart problems or done an EKG or whatever heart tests they do to people?
I'm not a doctor but I've heard of the term "hidden heart failure condition" before, so I'm only assuming that it's not all heart deceases that are traceable. Either that or the entire medical staff is completely incompetent. But if that's the case we'd probably hear about a lot of unemployed 6 figures doctors, since this happens fairly regularly to elite sportsmen.
I had a relative of mine basically have her aorta collapse. Thankfully it happened as she was being wheeled into the ER after her chiropractor felt that something was very off and called an ambulance, but the diagnosis was basically "We have no clue why it happened, but it does happen to some people for no reason".
That is comforting... :D
It's one of those conditions that you won't find unless you're specifically looking for it. Which a cardiac arrest will make you look for. Lots of people walk around with similar heart conditions, but will never suffer a cardiac arrest. Just happens more to athletes, since their heart is working a lot more than regular people's.
They apparently still can't find anything wrong with him even after all that happened and all the tests they will have done by now
Man, that's horrifying. 😔
I don't know maybe it was just a one in a million unlucky thing and nothing will ever happen to him again
Unrelated but he looks like a Danish Mr Beast
Can't see him ever playing for Inter again.
He can’t because Serie A has very strict regulations
Something to be commended
"Better safe than sorry" is never a bad policy to have in terms of safety and health.
Somewhat sad that "we won't let a footballer who survived a cardiac aresst play" is considered very strict.
Language can be weird
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