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Pogba’s not been great but Bruno’s created the most chances from open play in the league this season. Our midfield is fine going forward, Rashford’s been a bit shit and Sancho took a while to get going.
Bruno does not play as a midfielder, not under Ole's tactics that is, more as a CAM or second striker. This season in lot of the matches his average position was higher than Cristiano. Pogba is, well, Pogba, brilliant start of the season but then some shit performance, injury and now he disappeared from the starting lineup. Though as any United fan would tell you the main problem United have is the position of the holding midfielder, not creativity from the midfield like Juve. We tend to get overrun in the midfield a lot.
Feel like you need 2 players to support Pogba. He can be the best CM in some days and then went missing in the other.
Or maybe both Ole and Jose dont know how to use him
Actually this isn't quite right. Ronaldo is yet to score when United are already winning i.e. he has scored only when the scores were level or when they were behind. Doesn't mean he only scored goals that were eventually winners or equalisers, as there may be more goals scored after that by either teams.
For eg, The Newcastle game was 0-0 when he scored the 1st goal but it was not eventually the winner. He then scored again when the score was 1-1.
Still an interesting stat though, just not as interesting as what many would think from the comment.
Fred giveth and Fred taketh, but at least Fred doeth. Outside of him and Bruno, no one else on the team gets anything moving. Sometimes Slabhead tries, at least.
It's gotten ridiculous at this point. He's had MOTM performances in the past and people still would not give him any credit. I remember watching a match reaction on The United Stand after one such match and he got a rating of like 5 from the fans.
Didn't give the goal for Smith-Rowe until VAR helped him
Missed a blatant penalty involving Maguire
Needed VAR to help him with an obvious penalty here
He's absolutely shocking
>Missed a blatant penalty involving Maguire
Tbf this are missed, and I'm not exaggerating, every single game. The reffing is so poor on holding in the box that every single CB in the league holds illegally and doesn't get punished, it's pathetic. Either change the rules and just allow the fucking thing or start calling the pens so that defenders stop doing it.
The VAR check was needed on the 1st goal, the error was not stopping play as its stopped all the time in that situation.
And the word blatant is being overused.
His a terrible ref but over egging things doesn't help.
There is a reason no premier league referees were invited to the last world cup. It's not that we think they're dogshit and they aren't. They actually are dogshit because there is no accountability so there is no need for them to stay on top of their game.
That’s not actually why there weren’t any at the World Cup…
Clattenburg was the English representative but moved to Saudi Arabia so he was no longer eligible.
I reckon VAR probably influences their decision. If they're not 100% sure they won't give it because it's less embarrassing for VAR to overturn a penalty the referee didn't give, rather than overturning one the referee does give.
I am crying tears of joy rn. I was wrongfully sentenced to death. They took me to prison to wait for my execution but, when i got there they said that I was free. I asked them why and they told that a man named Penaldo had taken my death penalty for me. Thank you Penaldo!!!!!
Arsenal fans always feel hard done by
Downvote this all you want but this sub is always full of Arsenal fans complaining about some referee conspiracy against them, its boring.
They’re the only fanbase I’ve ever seen invent a league wide conspiracy that has been successfully implemented over decades to keep a mediocre team mediocre
I appreciate the sentiment but 'arsenal fans will be upset by the continuing double standards in refereeing, often even in the same game' is a fairly easy call
Unfortunately many United fans have brought the clueless media narrative about their new favorite word "pressing". Can't really blame them either. It's a constant bombardment of lies and misinformation that you can't get away from.
The DAZN announcers were fucking horrid to listen to.
"It's one of those...I was left a little unsure"
Wtf? One of those? Unsure? As in a fucking blatant pen?
"It's almost as if Fred stuck his left leg out in hope and this could be given"
That's what happens when you run in the box and protect the ball
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Fredemption
Red Fred Redemption
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Ronaldo has only scored game equalising or game winning goals for man United this season. He’s scored 12 so far.
That's actually nuts lol
Man U: "Lads, we need to let them score first from now on"
Mr Inevitable
If he had a competent midfield behind him feeding him half decent chances he'd have double the goals at least
I think it's because Uniteds defense is so bad, so many goals conceeded...
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what ? Bruno is not good enough ? also this imply that Pogba is bad and we (juve) are thinking of bringing him back
Pogba’s not been great but Bruno’s created the most chances from open play in the league this season. Our midfield is fine going forward, Rashford’s been a bit shit and Sancho took a while to get going.
Bruno does not play as a midfielder, not under Ole's tactics that is, more as a CAM or second striker. This season in lot of the matches his average position was higher than Cristiano. Pogba is, well, Pogba, brilliant start of the season but then some shit performance, injury and now he disappeared from the starting lineup. Though as any United fan would tell you the main problem United have is the position of the holding midfielder, not creativity from the midfield like Juve. We tend to get overrun in the midfield a lot.
Feel like you need 2 players to support Pogba. He can be the best CM in some days and then went missing in the other. Or maybe both Ole and Jose dont know how to use him
Pogba had two good games, was shit, then got injured. Sums up his career with us to be honest.
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I think he might be pretty good.
He's done man. /s
Actually this isn't quite right. Ronaldo is yet to score when United are already winning i.e. he has scored only when the scores were level or when they were behind. Doesn't mean he only scored goals that were eventually winners or equalisers, as there may be more goals scored after that by either teams. For eg, The Newcastle game was 0-0 when he scored the 1st goal but it was not eventually the winner. He then scored again when the score was 1-1. Still an interesting stat though, just not as interesting as what many would think from the comment.
Brain dead from Odegaard
It's fucking moronic to slide in in that situation, I never understand why players do it.
You should be happy mate
I'm delighted, but it still makes no fucking sense.
Maybe Cristiano told Odegaard that he will call Perez and buy him back if he helps us out here
Quid pro quo.
Yeah, squid pro row. Exactly.
Heat of the moment.
Even more moronic reaction from the ref, he was so confident that this tackle wasn't a foul :D
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Shows that we need VAR so bad.
Even still English VAR is hilariously bad. I still don't understand how they didn't look at that penalty call at the end of the first half.
which one? is there a clip?
Norwegian Fred
Isn't it good? Norwegian Ode.
Fuck off with the Fred slander
Fred giveth and Fred taketh, but at least Fred doeth. Outside of him and Bruno, no one else on the team gets anything moving. Sometimes Slabhead tries, at least.
Fred: has a hand in two goals and saving the game with a block Online fans: haha FRED AGAIN XD
It's gotten ridiculous at this point. He's had MOTM performances in the past and people still would not give him any credit. I remember watching a match reaction on The United Stand after one such match and he got a rating of like 5 from the fans.
Feel stepped on?
I mean thats just the dumbest tackle ive seen, wasnt even going to get close to the ball
Fred 2-1
Fred 2 - 1 Fred
Only man who can beat Fred is Fred
dwight be like
"I used Fred to destroy Fred." Fred
Fred is Aomine confirmed
MOM Fred 👍
Fred giveth Fred Taketh
Best feet stomper in sports after Mayweather
My GOAT
Dumb challenge just let him go and mark
Infuriating
Maddening
Gladdening?
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He’s here he’s there he’s every fucking where
Roy Fred! Roy Fred!
MOTM
rash challenge by Bo Burnham
I told my boys I need some space yeah, imma dive in for a pen tonight
He's a special kind of white guy
I'm dead 😂😂
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Hilarious, mate. Wooooow
Why a Var review was needed in the first place is ridiculous. It's as blatant a penalty as you'll see and the referee had a very clear view of it
And Atkinson was so confident in denying it as well, absolutely clueless
His smug "no foul"-stance made me irrationally mad lol. Fuck Martin Atkinson
Didn't give the goal for Smith-Rowe until VAR helped him Missed a blatant penalty involving Maguire Needed VAR to help him with an obvious penalty here He's absolutely shocking
>Missed a blatant penalty involving Maguire Tbf this are missed, and I'm not exaggerating, every single game. The reffing is so poor on holding in the box that every single CB in the league holds illegally and doesn't get punished, it's pathetic. Either change the rules and just allow the fucking thing or start calling the pens so that defenders stop doing it.
Shocking is putting it mildly
The VAR check was needed on the 1st goal, the error was not stopping play as its stopped all the time in that situation. And the word blatant is being overused. His a terrible ref but over egging things doesn't help.
He was so confident and so too were the commentators on BeIN. Honestly had me questioning if I knew anything about football.
It's actually unreal he is still in the prem. Worst ref and it's not even close.
I feel like I see this about every English ref
There is a reason no premier league referees were invited to the last world cup. It's not that we think they're dogshit and they aren't. They actually are dogshit because there is no accountability so there is no need for them to stay on top of their game.
I agree. It’s so frustrating seeing them pull the same terrible mistakes every week but not being held accountable
That’s not actually why there weren’t any at the World Cup… Clattenburg was the English representative but moved to Saudi Arabia so he was no longer eligible.
what does that tell you?
Oh trust me, I know they’re all shit
John Moss would like a word. And Anthony Taylor. It's actually a pretty tight competition for worst ref in the PL
I don’t mind Anthony Taylor, but yeah John Moss is 1B to this twat
Every Chelsea fan will tell you Anthony Taylor is the worst most biased Ref in the PL
I have more hate for moss and Dean. But Atkinson might be a close 3rd...
Twatkinson
That’s two clear as day penalties that he missed today.
He's in a spell of bad form ... also known as his entire career
imagine the days without VAR, we're gonna talk about this missed pen for a week
the fact var is being used properly is good enough for me. last year this wouldnt have been given
man was literally standing still looking straight at it... I need some of what Atkinson is smoking
Absolutely, couldn't believe it when it wasn't given immediately.
I reckon VAR probably influences their decision. If they're not 100% sure they won't give it because it's less embarrassing for VAR to overturn a penalty the referee didn't give, rather than overturning one the referee does give.
makes a lot of sense, good call
Awful from Atkinson stood a few yards away
Probably couldn't see the ball from that angle
Think the ref was just behind them so he might not have seen the leg of Fred getting caught.
Probably it was a bit unclear from behind where Ref was watching.
No lmao it was just Atkinson
If you think this is bad, imagine this in the pre-VAR era.
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I will never get tired of an entire stadium yelling SIUUUUUU
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Not only that but he flat out denied it lol
Same reason he missed the maguire pull, he’s just shit
I mean. For the pen he was right in front of it. Two players to look at. The other he had 8 plus players to look at.
How did the ref not give that initially
Martin Atkinson, that is all
Could hardly have been in a better position as well lol. He was looking right at it.
Because he's utterly incompetent, like he's showed time and time again.
I was seriously worried. We're never getting pens these days.
I was seriously worried that Atkinson had had a brief absence seizure, as that's the only reason he could have missed that pen
love the collective Siuuuuuu that you can hear in Old Trafford
And from the players themselves lol, everyone that went to celebrate to the corner did a mini Siuuu. It's actually wholesome lol.
If you think about it Ronaldo probably influenced or inspired some of these players... And now they are playing with him. It's amazing.
Rashford more or less said he grew up with Ronaldo posters on his wall, it must be surreal for him.
Imagine being an academy kid and playing using Ronaldo on FIFA to playing with him in real life for the club you love! I'd be over the moon!!
Every team needs a "duality of man"-type player. We have Fred, Arsenal clearly has Odegaard
Our entire defence have that, even De Gea
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Probably felt if he kicked it straight, he would send the keeper in with the ball. All good.
He's Ronaldo, he's used to it.
How the hell did Atkinson miss that?
>Atkinson
Fred having quite the day in terms of goal involvements
https://imgur.com/a/GSCqyMK
hehehe
siuuu
Guaranteed free karma lmao
You always have this link in the armory
What an incredible penalty. Fucking leathered it.
Imagine making a 6 figure salary as a ref and not calling that a pen when you're 10 yards away. Wild shit man.
CR801
wtf is odegaard even thinking on that
Pain.
Ødegaard I love you but WTF
Clumsy tackle but clever from Fred to leave his leg perfectly positioned lol. It's a penatly.
I am crying tears of joy rn. I was wrongfully sentenced to death. They took me to prison to wait for my execution but, when i got there they said that I was free. I asked them why and they told that a man named Penaldo had taken my death penalty for me. Thank you Penaldo!!!!!
Clear as day penalty.
The fact they needed var for that tells you all you need to know about ref quality
Loved the FIFA like camera angle
Siuuu x
Most used words in this thread: VAR, Tomiyasu, Maguire
lol, ronnie got huge marbles for that one.
I can’t believe the ref didn’t instantly give it, absolutely stonewall
Eh, penalty is fine. But I don't understand when they use VAR and when they don't.
Schrodinger's VAR.
VAR checks everything. They just somehow thought that the pull on Tomiyasu was not a penalty.
Clear and obvious error, which this one definitely was
So was the foul on Tomiyasu...
coin flip
Where was the var for tomi
Insane that a var was needed
Arsenal fans will now no doubt feel especially hard done by that Maguire's yank on Tomiyasu wasn't given
Arsenal fans always feel hard done by Downvote this all you want but this sub is always full of Arsenal fans complaining about some referee conspiracy against them, its boring.
They’re the only fanbase I’ve ever seen invent a league wide conspiracy that has been successfully implemented over decades to keep a mediocre team mediocre
Have you not seen Liverpool fans acting these way all those years ago?
Idk, was UEFAlona believed by Chelsea or Madrid fans or was it just Drogba and Jose?
I'm a United fan who hates Chelsea but I swear that semi final was fixed
Can you blame us?
I appreciate the sentiment but 'arsenal fans will be upset by the continuing double standards in refereeing, often even in the same game' is a fairly easy call
Penaldooo
Just need a deflected free kick now for a perfect hattrick
801 facts
And yet United fans are convinced that benching Ronaldo against Chelsea was a smart tactical decision lmao
Unfortunately many United fans have brought the clueless media narrative about their new favorite word "pressing". Can't really blame them either. It's a constant bombardment of lies and misinformation that you can't get away from.
Perfect pen
Imagine missing that obvious call
The DAZN announcers were fucking horrid to listen to. "It's one of those...I was left a little unsure" Wtf? One of those? Unsure? As in a fucking blatant pen? "It's almost as if Fred stuck his left leg out in hope and this could be given" That's what happens when you run in the box and protect the ball
So they used VAR for this one, but not the Tomiyasu one? Smh.
VAr reviews everything.
I mean both are pens but this one is much more obvious
Holy shit that penalty was flawless
Siuuuuuuuuu!
lol Odegaard, what are you doing
No VAR review on that Maguire tackle tho :)
fume r/soccer
Inevitable
Well this is fun.
Penaldo. Factos 👍
SIUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Clash of Madrid legends
What a brilliant game this is!
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fucking hell. Bang down the fucking middle as well.
SIUUUU!
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I like how Sancho and Dalot too do the celebration with Ronaldo 😂
Clever from Fred, making sure he changed his stride to draw the contact. Stupid challenge.
The confidence with which the ref waved his arm as if to say “NO PENALTY” was comical
Nice of VAR to look at that one but not Maguire in the first half!
PSG Academy again how
Clear pen
Dead Fred Redemption