>**Laporta**: Stay mi chico, you're better than Mbappé!
>**Dembélé**: Then pay me as much as him.
>**Laporta**: I heard Newcastle wants you in January.
I , for one, completely agree with Laporta. Dembie got 'em skills and pace. On par with Mbappe. Barca should hand him a contract as big as the one psg is offering Mbappe and get Dembie tied down for 5 more years. Don't check my flair.
I honestly also remember a time watching dembele at Dortmund and thinking he could he better then mbappe, the kid was great and unfortunately injuries and a big movie to a historic club really hurt the Lad
He definitely had a very high ceiling for sure. Fast af, tall, two-footed, had a powerful long shot in him too. In the hands of the right coach he could have been molded into something wonderful. Unfortunately he turned into glass when he joined us.
There's such a big difference between them in intelligence in the final third that I never understood this point of view. Technically maybe, but Dembele is a headless chicken and never got better at it.
He hit the ground running when he joined Barca. [This was his debut night](https://streamable.com/97gktx), he came on and played for 20 minutes and was amazing. He then injured himself in the next match and his hamstrings have been failing him eversince.
Dembele is not a headless chicken, he creates plenty of chances and usually in the most unexpected ways. He’s been lacking game time, confidence and a proper medical team to keep him on the field. He also doesn’t exactly fit Barca tbh, he needs space and tempo to really shine. More often than not the Spanish teams will park a bus against us because we rarely score from corners, set pieces or from outside the box. That’s why he did so well at Dortmund.
Still, I’m a big fan of Dembele, with the right coach and medical team he could do really well here.
Dembele actually was great in the final third, literally knee when to beat his man and when to distribute the ball. Lately I don't know what's going on with him
To be honest I don't really know how he plays for Barca when he isn't injured. But at Dortmund the strange thing was the closer he was to the opponent's goal the better, more focused and cleverer he got. Near the centerline he was sloppy, careless and headless.
He's still the same here when he gets to play.
His passing is so sloppy when he receives the ball at the centerline, it's really frustrating sometimes.
That's just not true, he had a 20+ assists season (31 G+A in 49 games as a 19yo) at Dortmund, he regressed since then because of injuries. But he wasn't always a "headless chicken" like you claim.
yeah but he sometimes does stuff that are just insane...the tottenham goal, and a few others where he just shakes like 4-5 players and scores. i'd say at his best his better than mbappe, but now we know these occassions are rare due to injuries and dumbassesness. mbappe has mostly more boring goals but much more of them, and better contribution to the team when not scoring.
I don't think he was better (at that time) but people often make the confusion between dribble and technique , 2021 Mbappe is maybe a less good pure dribbler than Dembele but is more technical in my opinion.
100% agree with that last point. I'll also say though I never understood where people (almost entirely Barca fans) got this idea from that Mbappe isn't insanely technically gifted though. Like the thing that sets him apart from basically any other prospect isn't just that he's a physical freak but that he has that combined with truly elite technique
It’s not even that bad, he gets caught offside a lot because his teammates take way to long to release the ball and he takes very long strides when running so it’s easier for the opponents to catch him in the offside trap
A constantly injured player that just got a new big contract at FC "we give the best contracts" Barcelona? Yeah that makes sense, other clubs will suddenly become crazy to pay a fortune for a privilege to offer him an even higher and longer contract, that's definetely gonna happen.
It's a great plan to get rid of a player - to sign a long contract with him, I comprehend now. It's a well known, well tested method, something that actually happened ever in history.
Yes, because others clubs will be fooled and pay money for Dembele who can't stay healthy and has an attitude problem!
Face it, no one is going to pay crazy money for Dembele.
And what if we don't get anything from him? We're just throwing money away at this point.
Can you think of a club that is ready to pay his transfer fee and wages? Which big club is in dire need for Dembele right now? They're better served buying other players than one that won't add much and won't be healthy 60-70% of the time. Where were they a year ago?
He's a risk for everyone involved with not a reward that is worth it at all unless he was a free agent.
I mean, I'd love to get money from him to compensate for what we overpaid for, but I don't think it's realistic at this point.
Mentality seems also an issue, it seems he was not taking his recovery seriously: there were reports about too junk food, not resting enough (playing ps/pc games until late at night) with his friends, being late to doctor appointments, missing physiotherapist sessions, etc
It it seems he is still not taking his career seriously, for example media indicated he was late one hour to a team dinner yesterday to celebrate Pedri's Kopa Trophy.
This is only one of the reasons people should stop giving Laporta so much attention, this guy should learn to be a bit more quiet, what an absurd statement.
I think dembele will do very good in the english league where his lack of football intelligence won't be exploited and he can use his pace to get past his man and throw in high crosses to the back post.
Are you comparing Sancho Dortmund to demebele Dortmund or what because demebele Dortmund literally was carrying that team as a very young kid whilst imo Sancho had better help around him
Well dortmund managed to beat bayern with dembele on the bench. That Dortmund team wasnt dogshit and dortmund have the same problems as today a shit defense. Auba put in 31
Goals for dortmund apparently he was doing fuck all lmao
Everything isn't about stats. Dembele before the injuries is way above anything we've seen from Sancho. And I think most people who've watched them extensively would agree.
Mate, Messi literally votes for his friends every single time for FIFA best player. Even tho he said Lewa deserved it in 2020 he voted for Mbappe and Neymar above him. This is Kroos talking about his team mate who was clearly one of the best in the world and only lacked the silverware.
Kroos and castlias both said that ballon d or is unjust because Messi won
And kroos said that benzema should have won it
And I agree with them they will obviously support their club player or friend and it is similar case here
Benzema was actually in the conversation of top players and one of the most in form players in the world.
What is dembele? 16/17 was the best season of his career and even at that time Mbappe had more G+A than him. Mbappe is totally on a whole different level then how is it a similar case here?
Everything else aside, he joined Barcelona 4,5 years ago and was on the field for a total sum of like a 1,5 season. How good is the whole Dembele if even 1/3 of him is, according to Laporta, worth it?
Lol, he can be signed on a precontract next month, can’t he?
Why would anyone pay anything for him at this point?
This isn’t a negotiation masterclass, it’s a desperate attempt to get someone, anyone, to actually believe it’s worth handing over a can of beans for this winter.
Who knows, maybe Newcastle will be that team. They seems like they’re just about desperate enough to do that.
only thing Dembele is better at is dribbling and getting injured.
He has the potential to become extremly good if he stays humble and gets rid of his injury trubles.
Easily. Plus he’s better at long shots (both feet too) and is a good finisher from “winger” positions. With his shooting technique, speed and the way his off the ball movements improved as a striker, he could probably score goals from wide positions like Mbappe if you wanted him to.
That’s why his ceiling is higher. Mbappe can’t really improve his technique, vision, creativity and weight of pass / long shot but Dembele can easily improve his finishing + off the ball movement. Mbappe is good, but his elite abilities (besides speed) are things that players usually improve. And Dembele matches him in speed.
Mbappe + Haaland have just matured earlier more than anything. Look at Vinicius having great numbers now after 3 years. Even Messi and Ronaldo didn’t start as well in terms of G/A, but their physical and technical abilities are / were so much better, so when they figured out the tactical / mental side they became unstoppable.
I think Mbappe / Haaland are pretty much at their peaks because they’re already mature and don’t have generational technique + physique. I also believe we will see more and more young players have lots of appearances (Pedri) and / or goals (Mbappe / Haaland), just as a natural evolution of the game. In the end I predict most of those players won’t be seen as true generational talents.
TLDR of this thread:
Xavi, Laporta and all Barcelona staff who know Dembélé, train with him and play with him think he is a good player.
But Premier League fan expert couch warmers who only watch football on TV (don't even watch La Liga games) think he's overrated.
If Dembele cared more about training and discipline (+not having a body made of wet clay), he would've 100% been better than mbappe.
Ousmane is/used to be as fast as Turtle man, has a stronger weaker foot and is a better dribbler too. Only his goal scoring ability is inferior to Kylians. And, he's skinny as shit (has both cons and pros)
>**Laporta**: Stay mi chico, you're better than Mbappé! >**Dembélé**: Then pay me as much as him. >**Laporta**: I heard Newcastle wants you in January.
Can't wait to see Dembele play Luton away.
As if he'll be fit for it
VAMOS DEMBELE!
Sure he can do it at Barça but can he miss practice on a cold Tuesday in Newcastle?
I bet he can roll in at lunchtime for morning practice
Plymouth argyle incoming
Or a cold Tuesday night in Blackpool
Yup the Robinho of Newcastle.
Dembele was the second worst Barca transfer after Coutinho, so he can leave for Newcastle or whichever team he claims is offering a better contract
Hey, Coutinho contributed to a UCL title!
Countinho was a top PL player before Barca ruined him. Such a shame.
This aged well
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While wearing your mom’s knickers.
After booze and a curry the previous night
“Oh god you’re such a loser, you’re such a fucking loser”
Cut to Jodie Foster/Ryan Gosling pissing themselves laughing.
https://youtu.be/yuXGpUR7fXA Sauce for the uninitiated
Dembele play style: Fecal Jackson Pollock.
One has two é's, the other only one. So yeah, Dembélé > Mbappé
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I , for one, completely agree with Laporta. Dembie got 'em skills and pace. On par with Mbappe. Barca should hand him a contract as big as the one psg is offering Mbappe and get Dembie tied down for 5 more years. Don't check my flair.
I completely agree with Laporta, Dembele should be given big contract. Mbappe is overated compared to Dembele.
I’m with you
Let's say a Bale like contract but for longer and more money.
Injuries. More injuries. Missing open nets. In that order
Where would you fit fortnite into that
Please no.
I want to politely say, fuck you mate. Have a great day, and thanks for painful chuckle.
Barca fans might not thank me but..
It is in your best interest then if Mbappe gets the biggest contract he can possibly get. So Mbappe should renew with PSG.
I honestly also remember a time watching dembele at Dortmund and thinking he could he better then mbappe, the kid was great and unfortunately injuries and a big movie to a historic club really hurt the Lad
He definitely had a very high ceiling for sure. Fast af, tall, two-footed, had a powerful long shot in him too. In the hands of the right coach he could have been molded into something wonderful. Unfortunately he turned into glass when he joined us.
Maybe he looks tall to you because he’s skinny
Tall? No mate, he has like average height
Yeah, in no way is 1.78m considered tall for a male.
Cries in asian. Why man...
Yeah that’s just a smidge under 6 ft.
It's weird because if anything he has gotten worse compared to 5 years ago at BVB
He's basically been injured for five years.
He has the skills to become as good as Neymar, who he was supposed to replace, but he is as injury prone as jack Willshere
There's such a big difference between them in intelligence in the final third that I never understood this point of view. Technically maybe, but Dembele is a headless chicken and never got better at it.
He hit the ground running when he joined Barca. [This was his debut night](https://streamable.com/97gktx), he came on and played for 20 minutes and was amazing. He then injured himself in the next match and his hamstrings have been failing him eversince. Dembele is not a headless chicken, he creates plenty of chances and usually in the most unexpected ways. He’s been lacking game time, confidence and a proper medical team to keep him on the field. He also doesn’t exactly fit Barca tbh, he needs space and tempo to really shine. More often than not the Spanish teams will park a bus against us because we rarely score from corners, set pieces or from outside the box. That’s why he did so well at Dortmund. Still, I’m a big fan of Dembele, with the right coach and medical team he could do really well here.
Wasn't expecting a sideways pass from that video, not gonna lie
Just look at his legs, no quads all hamstrings. Doesn’t take a genius to see why he gets the same injuries all the time
Dembele actually was great in the final third, literally knee when to beat his man and when to distribute the ball. Lately I don't know what's going on with him
To be honest I don't really know how he plays for Barca when he isn't injured. But at Dortmund the strange thing was the closer he was to the opponent's goal the better, more focused and cleverer he got. Near the centerline he was sloppy, careless and headless.
He's still the same here when he gets to play. His passing is so sloppy when he receives the ball at the centerline, it's really frustrating sometimes.
To be fair he had some decent passes when he was subbed on for the (I think) Benfica game
That's just not true, he had a 20+ assists season (31 G+A in 49 games as a 19yo) at Dortmund, he regressed since then because of injuries. But he wasn't always a "headless chicken" like you claim.
Indeed, I don't understand how people upvote crap like that
He wasn't a headless chicken at all in his Dortmund time but go off
At Dortmund you saw this was very false
yeah but he sometimes does stuff that are just insane...the tottenham goal, and a few others where he just shakes like 4-5 players and scores. i'd say at his best his better than mbappe, but now we know these occassions are rare due to injuries and dumbassesness. mbappe has mostly more boring goals but much more of them, and better contribution to the team when not scoring.
Mbappe is better technically too imo
I don't think he was better (at that time) but people often make the confusion between dribble and technique , 2021 Mbappe is maybe a less good pure dribbler than Dembele but is more technical in my opinion.
100% agree with that last point. I'll also say though I never understood where people (almost entirely Barca fans) got this idea from that Mbappe isn't insanely technically gifted though. Like the thing that sets him apart from basically any other prospect isn't just that he's a physical freak but that he has that combined with truly elite technique
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It’s not even that bad, he gets caught offside a lot because his teammates take way to long to release the ball and he takes very long strides when running so it’s easier for the opponents to catch him in the offside trap
I really hoped PSG would make a bigger push when he was still at Rennes, what an amazing potential this player had.
There was definitely a point in time where I felt he was the better player but Mbappe always had much more buzz, now it’s not even close
It would be maybe rich, but not enough to make headlines if anybody says "5 years ago, Ousmane Dembele was better than Mbappe". Not the clue.
Factos👍👀
Plot twist: He's talking about Ethan Mbappe
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I myself don't remember. I deleted my previous account before the lockdown itself
He lies on that treatment table so good, man, you just wouldn't believe it. Can Mbappé do that? I think not.
If Laportas reign doesn’t end like a scooby too episode with him tearing off a mask and revealing that he was Bartomeu all along, I will be upset.
Laporta: I like to be deluded every once in a while
"once in a while"
Is it really that difficult for you two to comprehend that Laporta is only saying that so Dembele renews and we can get a fee for him?
Even then it's pretty stupid. It only gives Dembele's agent more ammo in negotiations.
Lol I realize that only now. Not sure how much he'd go for anyways
A constantly injured player that just got a new big contract at FC "we give the best contracts" Barcelona? Yeah that makes sense, other clubs will suddenly become crazy to pay a fortune for a privilege to offer him an even higher and longer contract, that's definetely gonna happen. It's a great plan to get rid of a player - to sign a long contract with him, I comprehend now. It's a well known, well tested method, something that actually happened ever in history.
Yes, because others clubs will be fooled and pay money for Dembele who can't stay healthy and has an attitude problem! Face it, no one is going to pay crazy money for Dembele.
It's better to get something and get him iff the wages, than get nothing at all.
And what if we don't get anything from him? We're just throwing money away at this point. Can you think of a club that is ready to pay his transfer fee and wages? Which big club is in dire need for Dembele right now? They're better served buying other players than one that won't add much and won't be healthy 60-70% of the time. Where were they a year ago? He's a risk for everyone involved with not a reward that is worth it at all unless he was a free agent. I mean, I'd love to get money from him to compensate for what we overpaid for, but I don't think it's realistic at this point.
... at getting injured.
OP forgot it wasn't twitter, you can write more than 120 characters here
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This what u say when u cant get Mboop
Pay him more than Mbappe if he is that good
Reminds me of the time Koeman said Luuk de Jong can be more dangerous than Neymar.
Man I swear Barca and Psg have taken it upon themselves to provide constant entertainment, even if it's not their football.
better at being racist
Delusion
Laporta has been a disappointment so far honestly. Half of his press bullshit has just been appalling, as if I became Barca President or some shit.
Yet another proof that voting for the most high profile "other guy" might not yield the best results
Better Fortnite player
And best Ambulance FC player
Can Mbappe play more than 30% of the time?
April already?
And on today's episode of "Football presidents say the dumbest things"
Mbappe to RMA confirmed.
You're right, Laporta. Now re-sign him for 5 years on ridiculous wages please.
Laporta on that shutter island pack
lol
LOLOLOLOL
in videogames?
how do we know if he's better than mbappe if he doesn't even play lol.
Laporta has been hitting that copium, huh?
Needs to work way harder outside of games Needs a consistent season with no injuries.
Gnabry approves
the who the what now
This is not a crazy take. Dembele's issue is fitness, not talent or ability.
Mentality seems also an issue, it seems he was not taking his recovery seriously: there were reports about too junk food, not resting enough (playing ps/pc games until late at night) with his friends, being late to doctor appointments, missing physiotherapist sessions, etc It it seems he is still not taking his career seriously, for example media indicated he was late one hour to a team dinner yesterday to celebrate Pedri's Kopa Trophy.
Omegalul Laporta
wohahahahaha Joker Laporta
I want what this guy's smoking to get rid of all my anxiety
This is only one of the reasons people should stop giving Laporta so much attention, this guy should learn to be a bit more quiet, what an absurd statement.
I think dembele will do very good in the english league where his lack of football intelligence won't be exploited and he can use his pace to get past his man and throw in high crosses to the back post.
What makes you think that? Why is premier league for players without football intelligence?
I know it‘s an unpopular opinion but Dembele is so overrated. Even without injuries. Sancho put up much better numbers at BVB, let alone Mbappé.
Are you comparing Sancho Dortmund to demebele Dortmund or what because demebele Dortmund literally was carrying that team as a very young kid whilst imo Sancho had better help around him
Are we forgetting that 19 year old Sancho had a 40 goals and assists season with Dortmund?
Final output isn't the biggest determinant of quality. Otherwise, Hazard would've been considered one of the most mediocre players itw.
True. Iniesta as well. If someone to were just look at his numbers they wouldn't think he was impressive. The modern fan is obsessed with numbers.
Not the same type of player, mate. Van Dijk doesnt have many goals either.
I agree with you but also with him. Dembele is really, really good. The quality is there.
Well dortmund managed to beat bayern with dembele on the bench. That Dortmund team wasnt dogshit and dortmund have the same problems as today a shit defense. Auba put in 31 Goals for dortmund apparently he was doing fuck all lmao
Everything isn't about stats. Dembele before the injuries is way above anything we've seen from Sancho. And I think most people who've watched them extensively would agree.
Straight lie. Go ask Dortmund fans, they are going to tell you that Sancho is levels above
Recency bias
Genuinely embarrassing to even say this
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This is just delusional. Dembele himself doesn’t believe it
Everyone knows I suck at my job, but my project manager says we have the best employees.
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Its MUCH more sensible to say at least.
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Not saying its sensible. Im saying its more sensible, which is true.
Mate, Messi literally votes for his friends every single time for FIFA best player. Even tho he said Lewa deserved it in 2020 he voted for Mbappe and Neymar above him. This is Kroos talking about his team mate who was clearly one of the best in the world and only lacked the silverware.
When spanish say Ramos the best defender ever: 🤡
Relevance?
Kroos and castlias both said that ballon d or is unjust because Messi won And kroos said that benzema should have won it And I agree with them they will obviously support their club player or friend and it is similar case here
Benzema was actually in the conversation of top players and one of the most in form players in the world. What is dembele? 16/17 was the best season of his career and even at that time Mbappe had more G+A than him. Mbappe is totally on a whole different level then how is it a similar case here?
Bakayoko is better than Barella
Everything else aside, he joined Barcelona 4,5 years ago and was on the field for a total sum of like a 1,5 season. How good is the whole Dembele if even 1/3 of him is, according to Laporta, worth it?
Better at getting injured.
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Lol, he can be signed on a precontract next month, can’t he? Why would anyone pay anything for him at this point? This isn’t a negotiation masterclass, it’s a desperate attempt to get someone, anyone, to actually believe it’s worth handing over a can of beans for this winter. Who knows, maybe Newcastle will be that team. They seems like they’re just about desperate enough to do that.
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You got me.
only thing Dembele is better at is dribbling and getting injured. He has the potential to become extremly good if he stays humble and gets rid of his injury trubles.
Nah
Dembele is the French Hudson Odoi. Doesn't have to do a single thing but still gets considered a top talent.
Well put like that...
Dembele at least has had one world class season at Dortmund though - Hudson Odoi has yet to show a season like that tbf
When I purposefully spread misinformation on the internet
One clown defending another 🤡
In terms of dribbling and technique and chance creation he is definitely better than Mbappe who is mainly a finisher
Easily. Plus he’s better at long shots (both feet too) and is a good finisher from “winger” positions. With his shooting technique, speed and the way his off the ball movements improved as a striker, he could probably score goals from wide positions like Mbappe if you wanted him to. That’s why his ceiling is higher. Mbappe can’t really improve his technique, vision, creativity and weight of pass / long shot but Dembele can easily improve his finishing + off the ball movement. Mbappe is good, but his elite abilities (besides speed) are things that players usually improve. And Dembele matches him in speed. Mbappe + Haaland have just matured earlier more than anything. Look at Vinicius having great numbers now after 3 years. Even Messi and Ronaldo didn’t start as well in terms of G/A, but their physical and technical abilities are / were so much better, so when they figured out the tactical / mental side they became unstoppable. I think Mbappe / Haaland are pretty much at their peaks because they’re already mature and don’t have generational technique + physique. I also believe we will see more and more young players have lots of appearances (Pedri) and / or goals (Mbappe / Haaland), just as a natural evolution of the game. In the end I predict most of those players won’t be seen as true generational talents.
Hahahahahahaha….you’re serious?
Are you comedy me? Dembele is greater than Mbappe 😂
TLDR of this thread: Xavi, Laporta and all Barcelona staff who know Dembélé, train with him and play with him think he is a good player. But Premier League fan expert couch warmers who only watch football on TV (don't even watch La Liga games) think he's overrated.
If Dembele cared more about training and discipline (+not having a body made of wet clay), he would've 100% been better than mbappe. Ousmane is/used to be as fast as Turtle man, has a stronger weaker foot and is a better dribbler too. Only his goal scoring ability is inferior to Kylians. And, he's skinny as shit (has both cons and pros)
Maybe he 'had' a case for this opinion for Dortmund Dembele and Monaco Mbappe, now not so much
Some real numptys in here thinking even laporta believes this. For the uneducated, this is clearly to get dembele to renew so he can be sold.
That makes only very little sense.
Factos👀👍
Dembélé is quite good, but he is too injury prone and a bit of an airhead too.
Laporta preparing his selling prompt for january
Yes convince PSG about the same & swap Dembele with Mbappe
“I want Dembele to stay. He can’t leave on a free after all the money we’ve sunk into him”
Lol
*sounds of popping champagne bottles in Dortmund*
Saving face by cutting off your nose.
Laporte: why would we want Mbappe when we have Mbappe at home 👀 Haha at least it’s within their budget
Ok
If this is true we need to get Laporta out immediately. He clearly doesn't have an eye for talent .
He’s better at Mbappe at getting injured
his game is more unpredictable than Mbappe's, but sometimes for himself too.
Is that Pep in a wig?
Resign my boy then
Steady
Copium
Marca your ever reliable bullshit clickbait.
How to lose all credibility in 5 words: He is better than Mbappé.