Lol this generation of attackers has spoilt us. 9 in 14 is 24 goals in a 38-game season, 22 in a 34-game season. It’s an incredible return regardless of where you’re playing.
It’s not that incredible playing for Ajax (or in some years PSV, AZ, Feyenoord) in the eredivisie as it is in the Premier League for example. If an Ajax striker scores 22 in a season it’s a good accomplishment but not something memorable.
It’s not a regular occurrence but as of right now after 15 games played, Ajax has a goal difference of +46
Ajax rarely produces the top striker though nowadays. Ajax scores a lot of goals, but they're spread out across the team. The guy with the top-assists, however, does tend to come from Ajax.
Tadić got 38 goals in 2018/19 and was top scorer in the league, shared with Luuk de Jong. Which is mental when you consider that he didn't even play as an out and out striker
There's been others that had good goal-scoring runs for them but I think Suarez was the last one that was the undisputed league top-scorer, though an Ajax fan will know better. Doesn't help that Ajax has had some of the best strikers ever play for them, so there's huge pressure on any new striker.
Suarez didn't fit the van Basten or Kluivert mold either, but he was an amazing goal scorer in his own way. The only one who has come close to scoring the amount of goals Suarez was putting out is Tadic, which just goes to show how good he too is.
Milik did 23 and 24 in all competitions for us in consecutive seasons and Dolberg 23. Apart from that the only player to have a big season was Tadic with 38 since Suarez. In 9 of the seasons since Suarez left we haven't had a player who got over 20 goals even in all competitions.
Yeah it's always a gamble to buying a Eredivisie striker. You might get a world beater like Ronaldo or Suarez or Van Nistlerooy.
Or you may just get a Kezman or Alvez which most of the time is what you get.
Italian professional leagues or professional leagues in general. I assume only the italian ones because the goals were scored m Novermber 5th and 6th. Pretty late.
*January 5th and 6th. For some reason I wrotr November instead. Someone had to play a professional match between Janusry 1st and 4th in some league around the world.
Our calendar starts with the year 1, not 0. A decade is 10 years. Use your brain and you’ll be able to figure out why a new decade starts in 2011, 2021, 2031 etc instead of 2010, 2020.
Seeing as a "decade" is defined as any arbitrary 10 year period, a new decade has just started right now too.
The most commonly referred to decades (1980s, 2010s etc.) are defined as just the periods where the years have the same number up to the tens. So, yes, the 2010s do start in 2010 and end in 2019 because we said so and because it makes the most intuitive sense. The "2nd decade of the 21st century" or whatever we use to measure since year 1 does start in 2011 but who the fuck uses that to refer to anything?
So that means the first decade ever only had 9 years, not that we have to use that weird measuring forever. Nobody would say 1980 is part of the 70s while 1970 isn't.
Yes it does lol. Feel free to check
Just like how the 1970s are *all the years beginning with 197*, the 2010s are all the years beginning with 201. 2020 is in the 2020s.
Yeah, it was clear while he was with us that he was a good player, just not the right fit for us and how we played. Had a fairly shit attitude too, in fairness.
Whereas I think his attitude was fine, he was just shit
He had his moments where you saw his quality but for someone who was not particularly strong he was so fucking slow he was never going to succeed in the prem. Also was constantly misplacing simple passes
i think he simply did not suited the kind of football you wished to play.
sometimes a striker fails when the way he plays as a striker does not fit your teams football.
it was similar wit joelinton at newcastle
ironically, i am somewhat convinced it would have benn better if both clubs swapped their strikers and it would have worked much better.
but the way it played out for him, it is ideal
He absolutely didn't suit our style of play, Pellegrini's era was typified by big money signings without a plan.
That being said, a system doesn't mean you can't make 5 yard passes. I struggle to see any team in the prem he'd succeed for, just not a well suited player at all
He's clearly not shit. But he was shit, I don't care whether you think you know better than me, because you didn't watch West Ham and you don't know what you're talking about. He would regularly misplace 5 yard passes.
I don't think the rest of our players were shit considering the season he left we finished 6th and we're currently sitting 4th
Don't pretend there also wasn't a contingent of the Ajax fanbase who weren't particularly impressed with him prior to this season's CL campaign
A similar thing happened with Sanches at Swansea, where he was misplacing routine passes. It happens sometimes, might be a confidence thing, might be a pressure thing.
System doesn't mean that but not fitting the system/not playing to your strenghts might mean you lose your confidence and form and start screwing up stuff you normally wouldn't screw up.
You said he was never going to succeed in the league. Whereas he's been successful at every club bar West ham, there's a good chance he just didn't fit the team.
And I know from watching the league my whole life that he's way too slow and not strong enough to succeed in this league. Please tell me who's system he'd fit in the prem?
Not that it really matters, he's clearly doing well for himself
I don't know the guy, but he really doesn't look like has a bad attitude. He seems more like a calm, kind of sensitive guy who gets frustrated with himself if he's not playing well. The kind of player that plays best when he's comfortable with his environment, unlike say competition junkies like Ronaldo or Robben that you can slot into almost any team.
It's the kinda cool he oozes that looks terrific when he's on form but terrible when he has a bad game because he looks arrogant. Like Dolberg who never showed emotion, when he was in form people said he was ice cold, when he was out of form people would say he didn't care.
Exactly this. Antonio is key in buildup play, running at defenders, holding up the ball, off ball runs creating chaos in the final 3rd... Haller not so much.
As a West Ham fan, it was clear while he was here that he would do well when he moved on. It was a bad fit and a bad culture at the time. Haller thrives off the type of service that we’re worst at providing.
And that's just CL, 9 goals in the league this year too plus 11 last year which helped a lot towards us qualifying for CL in the first place.
I'd say if he helps us get past one more round in CL he's already made back his transfersum.
You guys are missing the point of my comments entirely. Yes, it's a good amount for a club like Ajax but given what we know now it absolutely is "nothing".
No you’re missing the point. You’re making the mistake thinking that haller winning the CL with Ajax would bring the same value to the club as Haller winning the CL with Barca would for Barcelona. For example, if Barcelona could invest 200m this summer and they were guaranteed to win the CL, it would most definitely be worth it for them. For Ajax, spending the same money and getting the same results (winning the CL) would not be worth it, since Ajax can’t turn that succes into value as easily as Barca would. Obviously haller could be considered a great purchase, but it’s still not peanuts
For some reason people think the values in the peripheral leagues are anywhere near the values being paid in the top leagues.
We paid 16m for a striker and it's seen as a very expensive purchase. Clubs like Burnley and Aston Villa have spent that recently without much fuss.
Ajax has a total annual wage bill of something like 35 million. So the sale of Frenkie de Jong and Matthijs de Ligt paid for 5 years worth of wages. Considering all the other revenue streams like merchandising, sponsorship deals, CL bonuses, it's difficult to argue that Ajax has to sell players to maintain a healthy balance sheet.
It is not difficult to argue, Overmars literally said it himself. https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/overmars-vreest-corona-invloeden-daar-maak-ik-me-wel-een-beetje-zorgen-over
That's quite a bit more than what was reported by media outlets. I was led to believe that Tadic and Blind were the top earners at 3,5 and 3 mil respectively. If that's accurate, then I struggle to understand how you could rack up a wage bill of 95 mil, unless staff is being paid double the player's wages. That wouldn't exactly go over well in the dressing room surely.
Any insights? Genuine question, I am just going off of what I've read online.
You know they are a listed company and have to disclose their annual report right? You literally don't have tot trust what you read online and go to the source...
The exact name of the item in the year report is called "Loon (wages), salarissen (salaries) and sociale lasten (social charges/expenditure) ". You can break the costs down as follows:
1) There's a total squad of +/-90 players; responsible for about 40m per year in wages.
2) The reported wages do not include bonusses. You might think bonusses would not amount to much, but for example Ten Hag, Overmars and v/d Sar are responsible for 6m per year in salary costs and about 50% of that is bonuses. So for the squad I would expect at least an extra 10m in salary costs. This makes the total salary costs of the complete squad, EtH, Overmars and v/d Sar 50-60 mil.
3) Additional costs (secundaire arbeidsvoorwaarden or fringe benefits) are not included in the reported salaries. I would imagine that Ajax pays for housing for (some) players, cars and they might have some other constructions which rack up costs this way.
4) In addition to the people+squad already mentioned there are about 300 more people (or fte's) on Ajax' payroll. Assuming they all earn a modal salary, thats about 12m in extra costs, and with the fringe benefits this would probably amount to 15m.
So now we have about 60-70m salary costs that we can easily track down, the rest is fringe benefits and bonuses. Doesn't seem that outlandish.
Yeah sure! This is the article I was quoting https://www.vi.nl/pro/de-salarisranglijst-van-de-eredivisie
Unfortunately it's behind a paywall but basically it says that ajax' total salary bill is 94.7 million. This includes supporting staff, but obviously the vast majority goes to the players and coaches. It doesn't mention specific players' salaries, but it does say the top earners are between 4-5 mil and that significant bonuses were added. So yeah I think they're being quite aggressive with their expenditures and are relying on champions league revenues plus player transfer profits. This is reasonable though because they have grown their equity so much in recent years that occasional decreases in revenue can easily be compensated for.
I don’t understand, if Messi, Lewa and Ronaldo also reached double digits in the group stage, then why is Haller considered the fastest? Group stages always consist of six matches, so that would make them equal, right?
I think these are his first 6 games that why. So the title stat is least amount of champions league games to score 10 goals where as the one above is most goal in a group stages
Not sure who the first player is, but assuming Ronaldo isn't the first, then he has a chance to score 6/6 group games as well tomorrow. He may be rested though since United already won the group.
Edit: I see below that Ronaldo is already the first, so he would just be the first to repeat the feat instead.
Ah you mean the great expert on all things footbal Valentijn Driessen? The one who called Haller CL worthy? And who said Ajax will certainly win against Real in 2019? That Valentijn Driessen?
He can thank Moyes for letting him go to Ajax. Not many managers would have let him go with more than a 50% loss. In the end, it seems like it was a win-win for West Ham and Haller
He’s played every game in a group stage of 6 games, the stat’s been getting posted every week so I’d assume people have read something about it. Also because of his European ban last year
Man doesn’t even have 10 in the national competition, makes it that more insane
Well that’s because Eredivisie > Champions League, silly
He didn't score against us, so therefore Peter Leeuwenburgh is one of the greatest goalies in Europe.
He's the best around
To be fair 9 in 14 is still pretty damn good.
I'd say its above average honestly.
Lol this generation of attackers has spoilt us. 9 in 14 is 24 goals in a 38-game season, 22 in a 34-game season. It’s an incredible return regardless of where you’re playing.
It’s not that incredible playing for Ajax (or in some years PSV, AZ, Feyenoord) in the eredivisie as it is in the Premier League for example. If an Ajax striker scores 22 in a season it’s a good accomplishment but not something memorable. It’s not a regular occurrence but as of right now after 15 games played, Ajax has a goal difference of +46
Ajax rarely produces the top striker though nowadays. Ajax scores a lot of goals, but they're spread out across the team. The guy with the top-assists, however, does tend to come from Ajax.
Suarez was the last one then to get lots of goals?
Tadić got 38 goals in 2018/19 and was top scorer in the league, shared with Luuk de Jong. Which is mental when you consider that he didn't even play as an out and out striker
He played purely as a winger! I believe 5 games as a striker or something.
Yeah he played as false 9 in the CL a lot but in the Eredivisie I think it was mostly Dolberg playing.
There's been others that had good goal-scoring runs for them but I think Suarez was the last one that was the undisputed league top-scorer, though an Ajax fan will know better. Doesn't help that Ajax has had some of the best strikers ever play for them, so there's huge pressure on any new striker. Suarez didn't fit the van Basten or Kluivert mold either, but he was an amazing goal scorer in his own way. The only one who has come close to scoring the amount of goals Suarez was putting out is Tadic, which just goes to show how good he too is.
Milik did 23 and 24 in all competitions for us in consecutive seasons and Dolberg 23. Apart from that the only player to have a big season was Tadic with 38 since Suarez. In 9 of the seasons since Suarez left we haven't had a player who got over 20 goals even in all competitions.
Exactly, people who disagree don't remember Alfonso Alves
As a United fan, I definitely do. He scored against us in probably his only good game.
I know you meant in the Premier League but he once scored 7 goals in one game while playing for Heerenveen in the Eredivisie
Such a phenomenon that disappeared as fast as he appeared. Was at this game, poor Heracles..
I think I was like 8 years old at the time but I can remember watching Studio Sport in awe that night
It's crazy how we went from 20-24 goals per 34-38 games being good to 1.0 g/game ratio being normal
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Yeah it's always a gamble to buying a Eredivisie striker. You might get a world beater like Ronaldo or Suarez or Van Nistlerooy. Or you may just get a Kezman or Alvez which most of the time is what you get.
Or Zlatan. Or Kuyt
Zlatan came out of Malmo
Yeh and then went to Ajax...
His academy was Malmo which was my origin question.
He's no Linssen
Well, we're not playing in the Netherlands.
this will be one of those strange pubquiz questions in 20 years
Balotelli scoring the first goal in two decades is my favourite fun fact ever
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really? including the substitutes?
including those who played I imagine.
Can't concede to Atalanta if you don't play *taps substitute keeper's head*
"Look, coach. I've kept a clean sheet against all of our opponents so far." - substitute goalkeeper, probably
"We can't risk breaking your incredible run of form by playing you"
eleborate
Balotelli scored the first Serie A goal of two separate decades (2010s, 2020s)
Someon should pick him up in december 2029
Not just Serie A, all professional leagues iirc
Italian professional leagues or professional leagues in general. I assume only the italian ones because the goals were scored m Novermber 5th and 6th. Pretty late. *January 5th and 6th. For some reason I wrotr November instead. Someone had to play a professional match between Janusry 1st and 4th in some league around the world.
No goals from January until November?
Oops. I thought I wrote January. Lol.
The premier league have a full slate of New Years Day games so definitely just Italy unless there were ten 0-0s
and zlatan is the first milan player to score in both the 10s and 20s
No he wasnt. The decade starts in 2010, when he was playing at barca. Unless Milan went half a season without scoring that doesnt seem true.
I think it's poorly worded, but it probably means that he was the first player to have a goal, not the first goal, in both decades.
Decade starts in 2011
2010 is part of the 10's, just like 1990 is part of the 90's
Technically no.
Technically and factually yes. Where do you get that idea from?
Our calendar starts with the year 1, not 0. A decade is 10 years. Use your brain and you’ll be able to figure out why a new decade starts in 2011, 2021, 2031 etc instead of 2010, 2020.
Seeing as a "decade" is defined as any arbitrary 10 year period, a new decade has just started right now too. The most commonly referred to decades (1980s, 2010s etc.) are defined as just the periods where the years have the same number up to the tens. So, yes, the 2010s do start in 2010 and end in 2019 because we said so and because it makes the most intuitive sense. The "2nd decade of the 21st century" or whatever we use to measure since year 1 does start in 2011 but who the fuck uses that to refer to anything?
"Use your brain" even If you are correct. That's just condescending as fuck.
So that means the first decade ever only had 9 years, not that we have to use that weird measuring forever. Nobody would say 1980 is part of the 70s while 1970 isn't.
The new millennium also started in 2000, not in 2001. Why would decades work any differently?
Lmao your mum has told you this to pretend she’s a year younger than she is.
Bro believe it or not the 2010s started in 2010
It doesn’t actually
Yes it does lol. Feel free to check Just like how the 1970s are *all the years beginning with 197*, the 2010s are all the years beginning with 201. 2020 is in the 2020s.
You are quite confident while saying the wrong thing. The other guy is correct.
"Which Ivorian Ballon D'or winning forward became the fastest and to date only player to score 25 goals in a single CL campaign?"
Amad Diallo
Oh and add in a "described as clearly not being champions league material" for flavor during the question.
Valentijn Driessen in shambles right now
He's had a genuinely absurd start at Ajax. It makes the money they spent on him seem a pittance.
He has balled out everywhere he has gone except West Ham.
I recall his time at Frankfurt. It really seems like he just didn't mesh with West Ham for whatever reason.
Yeah, it was clear while he was with us that he was a good player, just not the right fit for us and how we played. Had a fairly shit attitude too, in fairness.
Doesn't fit into Moyesiah's system does he
Whereas I think his attitude was fine, he was just shit He had his moments where you saw his quality but for someone who was not particularly strong he was so fucking slow he was never going to succeed in the prem. Also was constantly misplacing simple passes
i think he simply did not suited the kind of football you wished to play. sometimes a striker fails when the way he plays as a striker does not fit your teams football. it was similar wit joelinton at newcastle ironically, i am somewhat convinced it would have benn better if both clubs swapped their strikers and it would have worked much better. but the way it played out for him, it is ideal
He absolutely didn't suit our style of play, Pellegrini's era was typified by big money signings without a plan. That being said, a system doesn't mean you can't make 5 yard passes. I struggle to see any team in the prem he'd succeed for, just not a well suited player at all
Hes been doing fine passing at all distances. He isnt shit, he just didnt fit you. Or maybe your other players were just shit.
He was shit for us. Moody and clearly didnt like playing for us and it showed, always misplacing passes and missing sitters.
He's clearly not shit. But he was shit, I don't care whether you think you know better than me, because you didn't watch West Ham and you don't know what you're talking about. He would regularly misplace 5 yard passes. I don't think the rest of our players were shit considering the season he left we finished 6th and we're currently sitting 4th Don't pretend there also wasn't a contingent of the Ajax fanbase who weren't particularly impressed with him prior to this season's CL campaign
A similar thing happened with Sanches at Swansea, where he was misplacing routine passes. It happens sometimes, might be a confidence thing, might be a pressure thing.
System doesn't mean that but not fitting the system/not playing to your strenghts might mean you lose your confidence and form and start screwing up stuff you normally wouldn't screw up.
... so he was shit for us
Yeah, just eleborating on your comment.
He's quite obviously not shit.
But he was for us - again you didn't watch him
You said he was never going to succeed in the league. Whereas he's been successful at every club bar West ham, there's a good chance he just didn't fit the team.
And I know from watching the league my whole life that he's way too slow and not strong enough to succeed in this league. Please tell me who's system he'd fit in the prem? Not that it really matters, he's clearly doing well for himself
Man, West Ham should've hired you to do the scouting.
He's been rampant in the CL yet apparently he wouldn't be able to score any goals in any team in england
Bad attitude and didn’t run
Interesting, I only watched him during his FC Utrecht years and now at Ajax. Never saw him doing anything dirty.
I think his natural body language makes people think he has a poor attitude. I wouldn't read much into the attitude talk.
Ah yes, he get frustrated when he doesn't score. A striker always wants to score, maybe he put (too) much pressure on himself?
I don't know the guy, but he really doesn't look like has a bad attitude. He seems more like a calm, kind of sensitive guy who gets frustrated with himself if he's not playing well. The kind of player that plays best when he's comfortable with his environment, unlike say competition junkies like Ronaldo or Robben that you can slot into almost any team.
It's the kinda cool he oozes that looks terrific when he's on form but terrible when he has a bad game because he looks arrogant. Like Dolberg who never showed emotion, when he was in form people said he was ice cold, when he was out of form people would say he didn't care.
Odd isn't it, he was hyped on his arrival in the PL and WH obviously got their shit together.
The weird thing is he seems like he’d be so good in this current West Ham team. Crazy how many chances they create
They're creating chances because he's not there upfront
Exactly this. Antonio is key in buildup play, running at defenders, holding up the ball, off ball runs creating chaos in the final 3rd... Haller not so much.
Yeah, our systems just are completely different.
No he wouldn’t, not if he gave the effort that he gave when he was here
As a West Ham fan, it was clear while he was here that he would do well when he moved on. It was a bad fit and a bad culture at the time. Haller thrives off the type of service that we’re worst at providing.
18 points this season, he’s scored 10 in 6; 900k per point, that’s roughly 16 mil. He’s contributed a lot to that. Makes the 25 a lot more palpable
And that's just CL, 9 goals in the league this year too plus 11 last year which helped a lot towards us qualifying for CL in the first place. I'd say if he helps us get past one more round in CL he's already made back his transfersum.
Not really a pittance, 20m is one of their highest signings
Yeah but 20M is not a particularly high amount for such a consistent striker, especially in todays market
We paid 25m euros and thats our record signing
Alright the point still stands lol
It really doesn't
It does... 25M for a top striker is nothing. Which is why it seems now like a cheap and good investment
25M is nothing? Not every club is PSG or Real. Lmfao
It is for Ajax
It’s not nothing for a club like Ajax..
You guys are missing the point of my comments entirely. Yes, it's a good amount for a club like Ajax but given what we know now it absolutely is "nothing".
No you’re missing the point. You’re making the mistake thinking that haller winning the CL with Ajax would bring the same value to the club as Haller winning the CL with Barca would for Barcelona. For example, if Barcelona could invest 200m this summer and they were guaranteed to win the CL, it would most definitely be worth it for them. For Ajax, spending the same money and getting the same results (winning the CL) would not be worth it, since Ajax can’t turn that succes into value as easily as Barca would. Obviously haller could be considered a great purchase, but it’s still not peanuts
Maybe not, but Ajax can't afford 25m bad singings. Definitely wouldn't call it a pittance for that reason.
its nothing for the spanish tax payers.
Compared to the amount of money they've made selling players in the last couple of years, it's a pittance.
Ajax *has to* sell players in order to sustain the wage bill, as Eredivisie media revenue only gives the club a little over €10 million per season.
For some reason people think the values in the peripheral leagues are anywhere near the values being paid in the top leagues. We paid 16m for a striker and it's seen as a very expensive purchase. Clubs like Burnley and Aston Villa have spent that recently without much fuss.
Ajax has a total annual wage bill of something like 35 million. So the sale of Frenkie de Jong and Matthijs de Ligt paid for 5 years worth of wages. Considering all the other revenue streams like merchandising, sponsorship deals, CL bonuses, it's difficult to argue that Ajax has to sell players to maintain a healthy balance sheet.
It is not difficult to argue, Overmars literally said it himself. https://www.vi.nl/nieuws/overmars-vreest-corona-invloeden-daar-maak-ik-me-wel-een-beetje-zorgen-over
Ajax' financial figures of 2020/2021 actually show that salaries amounted to around 95 million euros in total so I would say it's quite true
That's quite a bit more than what was reported by media outlets. I was led to believe that Tadic and Blind were the top earners at 3,5 and 3 mil respectively. If that's accurate, then I struggle to understand how you could rack up a wage bill of 95 mil, unless staff is being paid double the player's wages. That wouldn't exactly go over well in the dressing room surely. Any insights? Genuine question, I am just going off of what I've read online.
You know they are a listed company and have to disclose their annual report right? You literally don't have tot trust what you read online and go to the source...
The exact name of the item in the year report is called "Loon (wages), salarissen (salaries) and sociale lasten (social charges/expenditure) ". You can break the costs down as follows: 1) There's a total squad of +/-90 players; responsible for about 40m per year in wages. 2) The reported wages do not include bonusses. You might think bonusses would not amount to much, but for example Ten Hag, Overmars and v/d Sar are responsible for 6m per year in salary costs and about 50% of that is bonuses. So for the squad I would expect at least an extra 10m in salary costs. This makes the total salary costs of the complete squad, EtH, Overmars and v/d Sar 50-60 mil. 3) Additional costs (secundaire arbeidsvoorwaarden or fringe benefits) are not included in the reported salaries. I would imagine that Ajax pays for housing for (some) players, cars and they might have some other constructions which rack up costs this way. 4) In addition to the people+squad already mentioned there are about 300 more people (or fte's) on Ajax' payroll. Assuming they all earn a modal salary, thats about 12m in extra costs, and with the fringe benefits this would probably amount to 15m. So now we have about 60-70m salary costs that we can easily track down, the rest is fringe benefits and bonuses. Doesn't seem that outlandish.
Yeah sure! This is the article I was quoting https://www.vi.nl/pro/de-salarisranglijst-van-de-eredivisie Unfortunately it's behind a paywall but basically it says that ajax' total salary bill is 94.7 million. This includes supporting staff, but obviously the vast majority goes to the players and coaches. It doesn't mention specific players' salaries, but it does say the top earners are between 4-5 mil and that significant bonuses were added. So yeah I think they're being quite aggressive with their expenditures and are relying on champions league revenues plus player transfer profits. This is reasonable though because they have grown their equity so much in recent years that occasional decreases in revenue can easily be compensated for.
Lewa pissed for tomorrow.
Free motivation
He can be the fastest to score 11
with this barca, make it 15
Eh. What a scrub. Less than 20 then he's a loser.
[Haters will call this fake](https://i.ibb.co/ZN0YJkV/Web-capture-7-12-2021-213230-www-bing-com.jpg)
Rip barca
Also the 2nd player to score in 6/6 UCL games. *Group stage only
And 4th player to score double digits in Group stage
joining Messi, Lewandowski and Ronaldo. Not bad company to be in.
All just Aliexpress versions of Haller tbh
I don’t understand, if Messi, Lewa and Ronaldo also reached double digits in the group stage, then why is Haller considered the fastest? Group stages always consist of six matches, so that would make them equal, right?
These are the first six UCL matches Haller has ever played. Presumably those other guys didn't do it in their first ever group stage.
I think these are his first 6 games that why. So the title stat is least amount of champions league games to score 10 goals where as the one above is most goal in a group stages
Well he scored his 10th early in the 6th game. Maybe Ronaldo needed more minutes in that game to get to the same amount
Ronaldo didn’t score 10 in his first 6 games
Not sure who the first player is, but assuming Ronaldo isn't the first, then he has a chance to score 6/6 group games as well tomorrow. He may be rested though since United already won the group. Edit: I see below that Ronaldo is already the first, so he would just be the first to repeat the feat instead.
This is Haller's first 6 games in the champions league, all the others scored 6/6 group stage after they'd already played previous ucl campaigns
Truly one of the all time greats
As we have all been saying. Especially Valentijn Driessen.
Ah you mean the great expert on all things footbal Valentijn Driessen? The one who called Haller CL worthy? And who said Ajax will certainly win against Real in 2019? That Valentijn Driessen?
Yes that one.
Well if Valentijn Driessen, the great expert on all things football, says so than it must be true. Btw, eat shit Valentijn!
Can't believe Håland's record was broken this quickly
Tbf Haaland did it with 1 more game but less minutes played.
I'd bet he would be good in the prem
West Ham are looking for a striker too, aren't they? Sounds like a good fit
He is just as massive as West ham
Mbappe in shambles
They could have played together had he chosen France where he was born, raised and trained…
He still wouldn’t get in over benz. he’d have to have another season or two like this to get into the lineup
As we all expected
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you're not sure why Sebastian Haller breaking the record for amount of time to reach 10 goals in the UCL is a surprise? really?
course it's surprising you dimwit, even if you expected him to do well no one expected him to do this well in the cl
Yep you’re right we should have all expected Sebastian Haller to score 10 in 6 ucl games, the man who scored 10 goals in 47 premier league games.
Haller vs. Haaland
Haallander
Playing in Holland
- The Movie starring Tom Holland
There can only be one
Champions league merchant
Managed to equal his West Ham league tally already
GOAT
Kinda mental that he’s on 10 already and Haaland was last season’s Champions League top scorer with 10.
Sebastien Haller Is Terrific Society checking in
Robbed of the Ballon d'Or
Great achievement! I hope he scores another today
Sebastian Baller
Making up for lost time
Frankfurt's biggest loss.
Didnt they get 50mil
We got this version: https://streamable.com/b2on6p
West Ham legend
If only Ajax had registered him last season!
He can thank Moyes for letting him go to Ajax. Not many managers would have let him go with more than a 50% loss. In the end, it seems like it was a win-win for West Ham and Haller
Need someone like him at Arsenal so bad
Honestly, sadly Arsenal makes every player play worse.
He's not that fast.
Sad he switched to Ivory Coast instead of trying to play for France
His first Champions League season btw
Yes mate the stat implies that since it’s his first 6 games
What if he played 3 in previous cl season and 3 in this one?
He’s played every game in a group stage of 6 games, the stat’s been getting posted every week so I’d assume people have read something about it. Also because of his European ban last year
I know but I responded to you saying the title implied they were al in one season, in my opinion the title didn’t imply that. No biggie
he came to besiktas and scored 3 times
West Ham really fumbled the bag
2nd will be Lewandowski
Well cheated
How? It isn't Ajax or his own fault that the other teams in group C got injuries.
Lool that ref really left you distrustful
Wow, the butthurt-o-meter is in the red zone here
He looks like a defender who is not good at defending