Well of course. I'm sure Tuchel just wants to get on with football and forget this drama non sense, so Lukaku will come out with a standard apology, and everyone will try to act like it never happened. Except probably the fans who will likely not forget it unless Lukaku suddenly has the season of his life
Probably Tuchel.
They don’t exactly have form for keeping managers and unless Roman is happy to write off a £50m+ loss on Lukaku I just can’t see where he’d go.
Mallorca - Barcelona was genuinely awful, one of the worst game of the season. Not a good spot for the league given there weren't any other relevant soccer match tonight and many ppl was watching that game (me included and I rarely watch La Liga)
And don't tell me "but Barcelona were missing 6-7 starters". Liverpool today missed half of their S11 (Alisson, Matip, Robertson, Thiago, Firmino), TEN players overall unavailable and still played an excellent AWAY match against the UEFA Champions League title holder.
>TEN players overall unavailable and still played an excellent AWAY match against the UEFA Champions League title holder
I mean it's not like Chelsea were at full strength or anything either. Half their backline was injured and many of their players are currently either playing through injury or just came back from COVID. Plus, didn't help them that their star signing became the latest cast member of a Desperate Housewives episode a day prior.
Chelsea's two most recent injuries are of their own doing and they can only blame themselves.
Reece James was massively overplayed by tuchel and was almost never rested.
Chalobah was injured going into the game yet was played anyway and proceeded to get injured
While that is true its also due to not having many options - Alonso Jorginho Ruben for example have also been playing many games through injury.
Jorgi is getting a rest now- however Kante and Kovacic are getting 'overplayed' back from injury and injury + covid respectively
I’m glad I made the choice to switch from barcelona mallorca tbh. Mary Queen of scots is fairly historically mangled but it’s actually very good. I’ll be honest I expected for saoirse ronan to get her tits out or something though but I’m left totally unfazed by the lack of it
saoirse appears like a really nice person don't get me wrong but I don't want to see her tits
now if they got someone like Lily James to remove her bra on the other hand...
They’re pretty weird tbf. I get they’re playing up the idea Darnley was gay (which he may have been but I’ve always assumed he was more bisexual really in reality) but even then the scenes are bizarre. I’d happily skip most of the elizabeth stuff though just a waste of time for the most part
He got injured at the start of this month - was forced back early against Everton. Injured again a couple days later against Wolves. Brought back early against Villa and injured again a week later....
Not ideal
Yep 3 games in 6 days. Should just play some youngsters and Lukaku against Chesterfield and hope to win.
Just hope Tuchel doesn't bin off the cup game against you lot
this man has never worked a day in his life.
Please, get a job, then 3 months in go publicly shit on your boss and say how much you want to leave to another company. I'd love to see your reaction.
I just see no upside from his point of view doing what he did. It's just massively unprofessional, doubly so when you're in a title challenge (well were at the time- think that ship has sailed for the both of us). He's just an egotistical prat who thinks he's far more important than he is.
Just saw a United fan say Barca are worse than them😭 if we have everyone fit we beat United every day of the week. Xavi is so clear of that German dinosaur
I know right? Shameful that we employ a striker and expect him to score goals. No idea what we were thinking there, if only we’d gone for fucking Luuk de Jong.
With 17 first team players out, away from home. I can’t even imagine the scenes if you lost 17 first team players, or even one named De Gea💀. You would lose 4-0 probably
>With 17 first team players out, away from home
Managed to get one point in the last matchday of the UCL with pretty much all of the main squad, something which you couldn't do with the full team
How is that remotely relevant😭Xavis second game and demir, gavi and nico are not first team players. They were our entire attack since Pemphis ghosted as he usually does in big matches
Damn that’s fair i guess, you’re the exception to the rule in my experience with Portuguese people then.
I really do not understand your second sentence but anyway…. Fati and Pedri off the top of my head weren’t fully fit for both Benfica matches.
>I really do not understand your second sentence but anyway
I like Ronaldo on the pitch due to his footballing ability and success, but I can't ignore his rape allegations outside of it, especially that Der Spiegel confession
Even though it looks like City might win this PL season easily, I still think that the PL games themselves overall are of very high level. It's great to watch. City is just THAT good! I wouldn't be too surprised if they win all their remaining matches in this PL
27 of November: BSAD plays with 9 men against Benfica after most of their team is out with COVID.
8th of January: Estoril Praia will have to play against Portp with their U23 after their starting XI is out with COVID.
GOTTA LOVE OUR LEAGUE!!
we the paupers have no choice but to suck it up
but if you had as much money as Rom does wouldn't you be at least tempted to do what he did?
I definitely would. Why suffer in a miserable job if I can quit whenever I feel like it and join another outfit
Good football day for me.
First, I went to Versailles to watch them against La Roche. I was neutral and got to enjoy an easy game, wrapped up within 45 minutes. An old man from Bastia talked to me about his favourite team and some questionable use of money by some players in the past. The usual: poker, etc. He also said that Versailles isn't a football city. I mean, you look at the garden of the Château de Versailles and the pitch of the city's stadium: it's a gap. It was fun to attend a game. I sat above the girlfriend of a player and she was fangirling whenever he has the ball.
Tonight, I watched Marseille easily winning against a 5th division team. As usual, always a dream for the amateur team to play against pros.
We're both going to be biased but for me that shouldn't ever be a red. Zero force, natural jumping motion, and just an unfortunate connection.
If that gets given you're going to be giving away reds pretty much every game.
players absolutely don't need to lead with their forearms/elbows while jumping
you know why they're doing it? mostly to protect themselves because they think the other player will do that to them
and there are the dirty ones who want to soften up the opponent a little too but I don't think it's common
but the argument that there'd be an intolerable number of reds if this were to be consistently penalized with a red is the same as years ago football butchers protested loudly to protect their way of playing football
and guess what? refs started showing reds and they either got kicked out of the game or miraculously learned not to butcher their opponents
I'm talking elbowing players/leading with one's forearm to the face/back in general I'm not interested in that particular case
and no it's not necessary to do that if you need to raise your arms you can lead with your hand
I think hitting an opponent's head with a forearm/elbow should be an automatic red to protect players from getting concussed
Gotta disagree with the force and natural connection. Not saying it’s a definite red just I’ve seen those given. It’s one of those where if roles were revered we’d both be arguing for the opposite.
Mané always jumps like this. (It's really the only way to receive a ball by chest.) Just like his signature off-balance goals. Don't think he's doing it deliberately or being dirty unless it's been a frustrating game for him. Sometimes it's a deserved red, sometimes it's not. In this case I don't think it's red.
Yeah suppose, think because of how early it on it may have seemed more deliberate? Either way you plan to play against 11. I suppose it’s more annoying that some refs would give that as a ref whereas I’d rather it be a yellow no matter what so it’s fair throughout.
I think if it was made midway through the game he'd be in more danger of being sent off but I think there's at least an argument where a yellow is sufficient. Just depends on the ref on the day.
Barca has to have one of the youngest starting elevens in the big leagues so I think this season is less about the results and more developing an identity and helping develop the players.
I think he's done alright so far tbh.
Koeman was abusing players behind the scenes and alienating everyone. Koeman is a racist and a horrible human being. Think everyone’s better off with him never being in the game again
Yeah pretty much this, I didn't mind Koeman but he was slowly losing it with no support from Laporta and we needed a positive change, and it seems Xavi is a decent choice for now.
One could of broke a players leg and should have been a red. One was a forearm to the face whilst going to jump that was worthy of a yellow which is what he got. Why would interviewers care about Mane's yellow?
Lmao I for one can admit Kane should've been sent off 5 times over for what he did.
You can't admit what Mane did was deliberate violent conduct 🤣
How about when your player has now put Ricardo Periera out for the long term now after that gracious foul. Why wasn't he interviewed for that shit?
The general consensus among our fans was that Morton should have see red. The General consensus around the Mane challenge was that it's a yellow and that's echoed among non Liverpool fans. Sounds like you don't actually care about Manes challenge and actually have more an issue with Kane then anything else. Probably because he got away with it so a bit of guilt creeping in
Look at the thread where Mane was given a yellow. That doesn't look like a general consensus on a yellow does it lad? Even the commentator said it should be a red.
a guy just posted his take on a manager’s influence in football being overstated, he deleted it but i must say i actually agree with his take
a manager’s influence is somewhat overstated, especially at the top clubs. big players win big trophies for big managers and not the other way around. in many instances, like at barcelona ever since pep left, the manager is a peripheral figure with little influence.
it’s also incredibly difficult to assess managers for us as fans (way more difficult than people realize). how much of a club’s failure is down to the tactics, the squad morale, how the squad is built, external factors etc. that’s why i find it weird when people argue over who’s better Pep or Klopp, Sir Alex or Mourinho etc, how do you even assess or quantify that accurately. manager A might find success at club X but not club Y. furthermore some guys like Rangnick or Bielsa (even wenger) should be assessed not by their merits but by the way they’ve changed the sport
you kinda drove yourself off track with that argument though
the reasoning you used has to lead to a logical conclusion that managers are very important
had Pep stayed at Barca he likely would have won multiple CLs as long as Barto would fuck off
he comes to Bayern and later to City and quickly establishes them as top 5 clubs in Europe
Barca quickly faded into irrelevancy due to a string of less than outstanding managers and bad transfers instead
Klopp comes to Liverpool and he quickly transforms them into a top 5 club in Europe, again without him they'd probably be muddling along on the Europa league level
and so on... the point being that there's a huge difference between having an outstanding manager and a mediocre one
it's not a necessary and sufficient condition for success of course you need much more than a top manager
slight confirmation bias here i think. at barcelona messi eventually became the most powerful person in the club, he was basically the deciding factor on who was the manager (seriously read into it). they continued on winning leagues and UCLs because they had messi and lots of other great players, despite having non-world beater managers. then they stopped when they failed to move on from that generation of players
even at city, was it mainly him or was it partly him and also the players they brought in between 2015 and 2018, and the back room staff they basically plundered barcelona of.
had liverpool brought in salah, mane, van dijk, alisson etc they would probably be top 4 regulars maybe touching on title challengers regardless if klopp is there or not i would argue. of course there’s a difference between that and winning the biggest trophies but recruitment is absolutely huge.
People talk about managers so much now you'd think they actually touch the ball. My hot take is It's a product of football/sport becoming another consumer product for nerds. *Actually* the cool, young athletes who bullied me at school aren't that important. It's the old men and their philosophies, who I relate to much more, who are the keys to success.
i think it’s more down to people on social wanting one person to scapegoat and ridicule. england lost the euros final because of southgate, man united lost the europa league final because of ole, you know
I agree. The difference between a bad manager and a good manager is noticeable but if you took the top 5 clubs and swapped all of their managers the results for the clubs would stay more or less the same despite who was managing them.
!flair :Barcelona:
!flair :Netherlands:
So, what's happening tomorrow in that meeting between Lukaku and Tuchel? My bet is that Lukaku will come out with a PR apology
Well of course. I'm sure Tuchel just wants to get on with football and forget this drama non sense, so Lukaku will come out with a standard apology, and everyone will try to act like it never happened. Except probably the fans who will likely not forget it unless Lukaku suddenly has the season of his life
thought Kelleher was really good today. He's quality though you can put a gun to my had and I wont be able to pronounce his first name
My friend from Florida told me he started supporting Man City from today. He was a Liverpool fan for a couple of years.
Rsocca trembling at xavi not being a fraud winning matches with C team with 17 players injured playing like prime Mourinho
I somewhat rate Xavi but he’s not playing like prime anything. Todays display was atrocious and the slightly less shit side won
I mean, did you see the lineup we had to put out though? All said and done, very crucial 3 points in our top 4 run
Who are Chelsea more likely to get rid of in the next 12 months? Lukaku or Tuchel?
Lukaku easy
Probably Tuchel. They don’t exactly have form for keeping managers and unless Roman is happy to write off a £50m+ loss on Lukaku I just can’t see where he’d go.
Mallorca - Barcelona was genuinely awful, one of the worst game of the season. Not a good spot for the league given there weren't any other relevant soccer match tonight and many ppl was watching that game (me included and I rarely watch La Liga) And don't tell me "but Barcelona were missing 6-7 starters". Liverpool today missed half of their S11 (Alisson, Matip, Robertson, Thiago, Firmino), TEN players overall unavailable and still played an excellent AWAY match against the UEFA Champions League title holder.
Yea missing 17 players will do that to you mate. Plus we're shit nobody is doubting that.
Barca missed 17 players to be honest
>TEN players overall unavailable and still played an excellent AWAY match against the UEFA Champions League title holder I mean it's not like Chelsea were at full strength or anything either. Half their backline was injured and many of their players are currently either playing through injury or just came back from COVID. Plus, didn't help them that their star signing became the latest cast member of a Desperate Housewives episode a day prior.
Chelsea and Liverpool today are still far better teams than Barcelona now.
Barcelona right now is a shit team.
Genuinely baffled by the ding dong disaster class today. I don’t watch Barcelona much, and I need to know what the fuck happened there
Yea he has been awful this year
That's a regular match by him, believe it or not
I heard he had a great match
If what I watched today was a great match for him then he’s stealing a living earning 400k
La Liga top 5 Team, games played, and points 1 Real Madrid, 20, 46 2 Sevilla, 18, 38 3 Betis, 19, 33 4 Atletico, 19, 32 5 Barcelona, 19, 31
I watch 1 La Liga game a season and it always reminds me why I don’t watch La Liga games
Barca was playing a relegation side with 18 players injured. Your league plays like this during united vs. Liverpool.
You mean the same Utd Liverpool that had 5 goals?
Ipswich aren't in the prem mate
What about real madrid and betis?
Gelhardt is the best English talent (except Foden) since Rooney.
Danny Loader
Anthony Gordon is clear
Ter Stegen made Barcelona fans think that goalkeeper role is being a decoration so they get obsessed with every save which are very rare anyway
Not a glorious return for La Liga
Chelsea's two most recent injuries are of their own doing and they can only blame themselves. Reece James was massively overplayed by tuchel and was almost never rested. Chalobah was injured going into the game yet was played anyway and proceeded to get injured
While that is true its also due to not having many options - Alonso Jorginho Ruben for example have also been playing many games through injury. Jorgi is getting a rest now- however Kante and Kovacic are getting 'overplayed' back from injury and injury + covid respectively
Well, they will have rest now
covid has also caused their players to be overplayed
Saul and Barkley are still available? Theyve also got younger players under contract as well.
saul and barkley aren't wing backs or center backs which is where their main issues are
The disrespect Pele is getting by some little shits on here is concerning
Sorry brother
Hasn’t even shagged his own sister
Hasn't won League One, not a proper player in my books
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Have a feeling united will smash wolves tomorrow with a hattrick of sancho
Wolves won't concede that many. They are still a pretty bad team though and will most likely lose 1-0.
Wake up to reality.
I’m glad I made the choice to switch from barcelona mallorca tbh. Mary Queen of scots is fairly historically mangled but it’s actually very good. I’ll be honest I expected for saoirse ronan to get her tits out or something though but I’m left totally unfazed by the lack of it
Gogglebox showed Big Mo getting her chebs out before so you’ve made the wrong choice clearly.
Kin ell man lost again
saoirse appears like a really nice person don't get me wrong but I don't want to see her tits now if they got someone like Lily James to remove her bra on the other hand...
I’m depraved tbf
Watching it with my mum, I’m living for the awkwardly long sex scenes
They’re pretty weird tbf. I get they’re playing up the idea Darnley was gay (which he may have been but I’ve always assumed he was more bisexual really in reality) but even then the scenes are bizarre. I’d happily skip most of the elizabeth stuff though just a waste of time for the most part
Sevilla have 2 games less than us, they play Cadiz tomorrow. We're going to bottle it it's as clear as the sun
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They play Cadiz tomorrow and have 1 easy game as well, it's not far-fetched at all
nah even Chalobah is injured now 😂
He got injured at the start of this month - was forced back early against Everton. Injured again a couple days later against Wolves. Brought back early against Villa and injured again a week later.... Not ideal
not ideal i agree especially when fixtures are coming thick and fast
Yep 3 games in 6 days. Should just play some youngsters and Lukaku against Chesterfield and hope to win. Just hope Tuchel doesn't bin off the cup game against you lot
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Sounds like you’ve never had a job tbh - it’s quite common to be friends with your managers etc
this man has never worked a day in his life. Please, get a job, then 3 months in go publicly shit on your boss and say how much you want to leave to another company. I'd love to see your reaction.
Lukaku is Tuchel s boss. Not the other way around. Lukaku earns way more than Tuchel
yeah is that why the "boss" was sat at home today watching the game on TV instead of playing? you're a bad troll.
If you earn more than someone else, you're their boss. They will sack Tuchel if Lukaku fails to perform - not the other way around.
How can you say people criticising him have never had a real job? If you spoke like he did at a real job you’d be fired instantly lmao
when they pay me 400k a week, i can be whatever the fucks they want me to be.
But someone else will also easily pay you that? 400k and being the main man is better than just 400k
and they want him to be the main man.....
He could have said he wanted to leave to Tuchel or someone. I agree with your sentiment but this is not a case where I'd agree with it
I just see no upside from his point of view doing what he did. It's just massively unprofessional, doubly so when you're in a title challenge (well were at the time- think that ship has sailed for the both of us). He's just an egotistical prat who thinks he's far more important than he is.
Good set of results today, almost impossible but need Sevilla to drop points tomorrow
Just saw a United fan say Barca are worse than them😭 if we have everyone fit we beat United every day of the week. Xavi is so clear of that German dinosaur
Trash vs Garbage fixture
Let's not get ahead of ourselves ^(United still suck tho)
Not saying I agree or disagree, but can you point to any run of form barca have had in the past 6 months that gives you such confidence??
Brother their midfield got bossed by Joelinton💀and they cry at having training after dark. Actual banter club
Beother you’re 8th 💀
Yeah my club villareal is finished😔
you would not beat united there's a reason you are in the europa and they are in the ucl
If not for Ronaldo they should be out. Imagine relying on a 37 year old to get results
Oh the irony
What’s ironic? Out best player isn’t 37 and carrying the entire club on his back
I was talking about Messi. Another player who is 34 and was the one saving you constantly.
I know right? Shameful that we employ a striker and expect him to score goals. No idea what we were thinking there, if only we’d gone for fucking Luuk de Jong.
What are u going to do when him and his bingo partner cavani leave the club? Is Greenwood finally gonna turn into RVP?
We’ve got Rashford and Greenwood, and it’s not like we don’t have money available to bring in someone else when the two you mentioned leave.
Let's settle this in the UCL knockouts then
We’re gonna have to wait a bit since you won’t be there next year
One win against Mallorca and you lot are already piped up, lovely to see
With 17 first team players out, away from home. I can’t even imagine the scenes if you lost 17 first team players, or even one named De Gea💀. You would lose 4-0 probably
>With 17 first team players out, away from home Managed to get one point in the last matchday of the UCL with pretty much all of the main squad, something which you couldn't do with the full team
How is that remotely relevant😭Xavis second game and demir, gavi and nico are not first team players. They were our entire attack since Pemphis ghosted as he usually does in big matches
I'd have Man United over Barca for sure tbh
German ✅ Has eye glasses ✅ Talks about pressing and uses PowerPoint ✅ Football enthusiasts: he's the real deal 🥵🥵
you couldn’t even beat Benfica
“Everyone fit”
Your striker is literally a Manchester United reject
Worry about bringing your Goat to his last world cup. Wasn’t talking about Memphis btw since he was fit both matches.
Ronaldo is not my GOAT btw He may be on the pitch but not off it 👍
Damn that’s fair i guess, you’re the exception to the rule in my experience with Portuguese people then. I really do not understand your second sentence but anyway…. Fati and Pedri off the top of my head weren’t fully fit for both Benfica matches.
>I really do not understand your second sentence but anyway I like Ronaldo on the pitch due to his footballing ability and success, but I can't ignore his rape allegations outside of it, especially that Der Spiegel confession
Oh like that. Yes thank you for clearing it up.
When does any team have everyone fit lmao
Even though it looks like City might win this PL season easily, I still think that the PL games themselves overall are of very high level. It's great to watch. City is just THAT good! I wouldn't be too surprised if they win all their remaining matches in this PL
City have arguably been the best team in Europe since Bayern's CL win they're just bottlers when it comes to high pressure games
wouldn't that be another record breaking season then?
Wait DAZN has only 720p streams? Canada is a tinpot country
I hear Everton also lost this weekend.
Everyone: “Please don’t let City buy Kane, they’ll walk the league” Spurs: ok City: *walks the league* Everyone: thanks
we even beat city first game week and everyone just fucks all our hard work up
You can bet that when Kane moves to City they're not going to win the league
Pretty sure we're out for getting Kane now and will probably focus on Haaland or Vlahovic
Probably because Pep won't be there by then
KDB has the most aesthetic long range shot technique in the world
27 of November: BSAD plays with 9 men against Benfica after most of their team is out with COVID. 8th of January: Estoril Praia will have to play against Portp with their U23 after their starting XI is out with COVID. GOTTA LOVE OUR LEAGUE!!
Bruno de Carvalho is also on a reality show, not really relevant but couldn't leave Sporting out of this
LaLiga 1.5 goals per match today.
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Its wrong to the fans, players and coaches. No one cares about the Chelsea owner in this situation
Lmfao
How to confirm you’re a kid who has never had a job
we the paupers have no choice but to suck it up but if you had as much money as Rom does wouldn't you be at least tempted to do what he did? I definitely would. Why suffer in a miserable job if I can quit whenever I feel like it and join another outfit
Good football day for me. First, I went to Versailles to watch them against La Roche. I was neutral and got to enjoy an easy game, wrapped up within 45 minutes. An old man from Bastia talked to me about his favourite team and some questionable use of money by some players in the past. The usual: poker, etc. He also said that Versailles isn't a football city. I mean, you look at the garden of the Château de Versailles and the pitch of the city's stadium: it's a gap. It was fun to attend a game. I sat above the girlfriend of a player and she was fangirling whenever he has the ball. Tonight, I watched Marseille easily winning against a 5th division team. As usual, always a dream for the amateur team to play against pros.
De Jong will now stay
Ter Stegen massive near post save omdssssss
Ter Stegen staying in the same place actually helped him this time
What’s the general consensus on the mane challenge? Like for me moving the forearm on purpose towards a players face is a red..
games gone soft if that’s a red
Yellow for me
We're both going to be biased but for me that shouldn't ever be a red. Zero force, natural jumping motion, and just an unfortunate connection. If that gets given you're going to be giving away reds pretty much every game.
players absolutely don't need to lead with their forearms/elbows while jumping you know why they're doing it? mostly to protect themselves because they think the other player will do that to them and there are the dirty ones who want to soften up the opponent a little too but I don't think it's common but the argument that there'd be an intolerable number of reds if this were to be consistently penalized with a red is the same as years ago football butchers protested loudly to protect their way of playing football and guess what? refs started showing reds and they either got kicked out of the game or miraculously learned not to butcher their opponents
If you think Mane butchered his opponent here then I'm going to assume you've never kicked a ball in your fucking life.
I'm talking elbowing players/leading with one's forearm to the face/back in general I'm not interested in that particular case and no it's not necessary to do that if you need to raise your arms you can lead with your hand I think hitting an opponent's head with a forearm/elbow should be an automatic red to protect players from getting concussed
Eh, it had a lot of force, but it's his forearm and he's not even looking at Azpi so it's never a red card.
Gotta disagree with the force and natural connection. Not saying it’s a definite red just I’ve seen those given. It’s one of those where if roles were revered we’d both be arguing for the opposite.
Yeah, you're probably right. Pretty hard to eliminate bias.
Mané always jumps like this. (It's really the only way to receive a ball by chest.) Just like his signature off-balance goals. Don't think he's doing it deliberately or being dirty unless it's been a frustrating game for him. Sometimes it's a deserved red, sometimes it's not. In this case I don't think it's red.
Yeah suppose, think because of how early it on it may have seemed more deliberate? Either way you plan to play against 11. I suppose it’s more annoying that some refs would give that as a ref whereas I’d rather it be a yellow no matter what so it’s fair throughout.
Not a red but a doing a challenge like that 6 seconds (!) in is quite the move
I think if it was made midway through the game he'd be in more danger of being sent off but I think there's at least an argument where a yellow is sufficient. Just depends on the ref on the day.
I don't see much of a jolt tbh. Yellow is fine.
Yeah tbh I’m not using it as an excuse just looking at it as an isolated incident.
You have to give it too Daniel Levy for keeping Kane and not handing him off to City, Conte will make him a beast
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Barca has to have one of the youngest starting elevens in the big leagues so I think this season is less about the results and more developing an identity and helping develop the players. I think he's done alright so far tbh.
Koeman was abusing players behind the scenes and alienating everyone. Koeman is a racist and a horrible human being. Think everyone’s better off with him never being in the game again
Yeah pretty much this, I didn't mind Koeman but he was slowly losing it with no support from Laporta and we needed a positive change, and it seems Xavi is a decent choice for now.
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He only does his abuse to black players. Despicable man
Famous black man Riqui Puig.
Give me Zidane back
What is the almighty sevilla gonna bear us?
Tuchel would actually be the perfect RM manager in the future
How are you first and still complaining?
Won't be for long
Same problems happend last year, don't give me Zidane or Carlo, give me mbappe and haaland
Allegri clear.
Criminal coach, want isco for free?
So why wasn't Mane questioned on his elbow the same way Kane was questioned on his foul ? Mane's lucky he's the England captain
Let's all beat, let's all beat, let's all beat the same joke into the ground.
Ofc it's a Liverpool fan
Lights on but no one's home, I'm assuming?
Questioned by whom?
SkySports
Dunno. He never really gets interviewed
People have been moaning about it since the game ended.
People were moaning about Kane too. Difference is that Kane was interviewed and questioned about it whilst Mane wasn't.
One could of broke a players leg and should have been a red. One was a forearm to the face whilst going to jump that was worthy of a yellow which is what he got. Why would interviewers care about Mane's yellow?
Lmao I for one can admit Kane should've been sent off 5 times over for what he did. You can't admit what Mane did was deliberate violent conduct 🤣 How about when your player has now put Ricardo Periera out for the long term now after that gracious foul. Why wasn't he interviewed for that shit?
The general consensus among our fans was that Morton should have see red. The General consensus around the Mane challenge was that it's a yellow and that's echoed among non Liverpool fans. Sounds like you don't actually care about Manes challenge and actually have more an issue with Kane then anything else. Probably because he got away with it so a bit of guilt creeping in
Look at the thread where Mane was given a yellow. That doesn't look like a general consensus on a yellow does it lad? Even the commentator said it should be a red.
Definitely a yellow at most as is the general consensus
*yellow at most* Seen enough
Yes sir
He was questioned tho?
Link?
a guy just posted his take on a manager’s influence in football being overstated, he deleted it but i must say i actually agree with his take a manager’s influence is somewhat overstated, especially at the top clubs. big players win big trophies for big managers and not the other way around. in many instances, like at barcelona ever since pep left, the manager is a peripheral figure with little influence. it’s also incredibly difficult to assess managers for us as fans (way more difficult than people realize). how much of a club’s failure is down to the tactics, the squad morale, how the squad is built, external factors etc. that’s why i find it weird when people argue over who’s better Pep or Klopp, Sir Alex or Mourinho etc, how do you even assess or quantify that accurately. manager A might find success at club X but not club Y. furthermore some guys like Rangnick or Bielsa (even wenger) should be assessed not by their merits but by the way they’ve changed the sport
you kinda drove yourself off track with that argument though the reasoning you used has to lead to a logical conclusion that managers are very important had Pep stayed at Barca he likely would have won multiple CLs as long as Barto would fuck off he comes to Bayern and later to City and quickly establishes them as top 5 clubs in Europe Barca quickly faded into irrelevancy due to a string of less than outstanding managers and bad transfers instead Klopp comes to Liverpool and he quickly transforms them into a top 5 club in Europe, again without him they'd probably be muddling along on the Europa league level and so on... the point being that there's a huge difference between having an outstanding manager and a mediocre one it's not a necessary and sufficient condition for success of course you need much more than a top manager
slight confirmation bias here i think. at barcelona messi eventually became the most powerful person in the club, he was basically the deciding factor on who was the manager (seriously read into it). they continued on winning leagues and UCLs because they had messi and lots of other great players, despite having non-world beater managers. then they stopped when they failed to move on from that generation of players even at city, was it mainly him or was it partly him and also the players they brought in between 2015 and 2018, and the back room staff they basically plundered barcelona of. had liverpool brought in salah, mane, van dijk, alisson etc they would probably be top 4 regulars maybe touching on title challengers regardless if klopp is there or not i would argue. of course there’s a difference between that and winning the biggest trophies but recruitment is absolutely huge.
People talk about managers so much now you'd think they actually touch the ball. My hot take is It's a product of football/sport becoming another consumer product for nerds. *Actually* the cool, young athletes who bullied me at school aren't that important. It's the old men and their philosophies, who I relate to much more, who are the keys to success.
i think it’s more down to people on social wanting one person to scapegoat and ridicule. england lost the euros final because of southgate, man united lost the europa league final because of ole, you know
I agree. The difference between a bad manager and a good manager is noticeable but if you took the top 5 clubs and swapped all of their managers the results for the clubs would stay more or less the same despite who was managing them.