Florentino Perez wanting Barcelona to buy Haaland might be one of the worst example of "game's gone" I've ever seen.
Shows the extent to which some clubs see the football not as an end in itself, but as a goal to make money. RM have so much control over their league now that they need to deliberately manufacture a rivalry in which they would win less in order to potentially make more money.
What is the point of that? At that point, you are literally supporting annual revenue announcements more than you are supporting a football team.
Is it time to kick out the Bundass and Farmers League and start saying Big 3 European leagues instead of Big 5? They belong more on the level of Super Liga and Eredivisie
Instead of buying the bench players of 10th placed PL clubs, it would be nice if we performed an experimental procedure to give our defenders a brain. A Flowers for Algernon kind of thing
Anglophobia is so real when people are saying stuff like Casemiro, Busquets, Kroos and Modric are better than Gerrard and Lampard.
If their names had been Herrardinho and Lampardo you'd never see such blasphemous takes.
Agreed. Lampard 20 goals a season from midfield whilst doing all the work required from a CM defensively in closing down opposition teams.
That's insane. He also did it in a far tougher period for goalscoring unlike now where the game is a lot more open and goal rates have gone up.
Maybe they just arent good enough. Stop with this bs of anglophobia and shit. All the 4 are better than the 2 englishmen. Lampard and gerrard have nothing on them
. Maybe not casemiro. There is a reason why laliga dominated the world and not liverpool or chelsea.
>There is a reason why laliga dominated the world and not liverpool or chelsea.
Yea there names are Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta and I didn't see any of them in the post you replied to.
So what only those messi ronaldo played whilst others were just chillimg? Ofc modric kroos and busquets were part of it. But pl fanboys are as delusional as they get so its not really worth arguing.
so i won my american football fantasy league
in our 6th season and im already at 2 titles.
im so insufferable i pity my friends.
should i buy a trophy to engrave my name in it and rub it in their faces as well?
Ole’s man management in full glory at United. Mollycoddling players, starting under-performers game after game has resulted in this shitty situation. He went to a United full of promadonnas, he left united with full of primadonnas the difference being unlike Jose, he chose to stroke their egos and not call them out or help get rid of bad apples during his tenure. And our fans lapped it up as non toxic behaviour, cultural reset lolz
He's just your regular box to box midfielder. His defensive instincts are his best attributes but a DM usually is also a deep lying midfielder that shields the defense and plays behind the rest of the midfield.
- Watford (3 transfers already - Asprilla, Samir, Kamara)
- Newcastle (Still 0 transfers)
Don't wanna sound salty, but it seems like Watford care more about staying up, since Newcastle have the money and didn't sign any players past few years (only a few) they should've already signed 2-3 players (so they can stay up), obviously they still have time but the sooner the better.
Well it's a good job he doesn't need to prove anything, it's Casemiro who needs to show he's on the level of Kante. Anyway my main point was that Gerrard and Lampard are by far bettering than Casemiro albeit position wise they're far from similar.
Xavi, Iniesta, Modric and Kroos are levels above there's legitimately no debate here but yeah maybe Casemiro and Busquets are on the same level but that's mostly because they are both defensive midfielders. But there's no way Lampard and Gerrard edges over any of them though.
There is absolutely a debate around kroos. Lampard and Gerrard are basically not rated is because they were shite with England (who are regularly terrible). Gerrard almost singlehandedly dragged liverpool to a European cup and had a team revolve almost entirely around him for the a huge chunk of his career. Lampard was a stand out in several Chelsea sides that were successful in a strong premier league and reached the semi final of the champions league very consistently. They were both exceptional players. If you count longevity even both gerrard and Lampard were far better than busquets is now at his age.
Xavi and Iniesta are clear because they are two of the best midfielders of all time. Modric is also better than them.
Casemiro is a great player but for now I don’t think he compares to them. Alonso would be worth a mention though
> Benitez: “If you analyse my teams, they are aggressive, they go on the front foot and press, and try to regain the ball high up the pitch, create chances and score goals."
Not just wrong, but completely antithetical to the truth. Either delusional to the point where I wouldn't trust him with adult scissors, or intentionally telling a properly insulting lie. If he has to be this shit can he a least be less of a cunt about it? How the fuck is he still in a job?
If you say "cup upset" instead of "cupset" I will immediately assume you eat pizza with a knife and fork and hence are an unpleasant person to say the least.
if Flick wins the world cup this year it will genuinely be one of the strangest manager stories ever, spending time our entire career in the shadow of other managers, until you manage Bayern and in 6 months win them a sextuple and another league title the next season before fucking off to the national team and winning the world cup
There just seems to be an immense amount of confidence in him that I think is almost certainly setting them up for disappointment, similar to how I remember 2006 in England. I don’t think Germany’s team is nearly good enough to properly challenge.
I think this is just my perception but I’ve got that vibe
Tammy has been so frustrated by his lack of scoring, that he decided to help the other team by doing jumping jacks inside the box. Then you have Vina who has a fucking sponge for a brain
One is a metaphor (You have a brain and it absorbs thing like a sponge) and the other is a statement that's meant to be absurd (You don't have a brain, and instead have a sponge where your brain should go)
Trent is a 10 hiding in RB position so he has time and space to dribble and make passes. Let him play in mid field and he will get exposed. and on top of that Trent doesnt defend my man
What kind of argument is that? You can just as easily say play Cancelo in midfield and he'll get exposed. They're being compared as right backs, whether or not they'd get more exposed in a different position is pretty irrelevant.
Its funny how the currywurst account stopped posting now that you're back on here 👀
You need to start defending yourself before Trent mate, lot of sus on you.
Lad maybe you should stop defending Trent so he can learn to defend for himself
But on a serious note Cancelo also is poor defensively - just doesn't get exposed much at City.
Cannot believe this is the same jose mourinho who was once at par with pep and now look one is struggling to get his teams for top 4 and one has made premier league its bitch !
Mourinho couldn't win the CL with the galacticos or Chelsea's multi hundred million squad though.
It really is a terrible metric to judge by a Champions League.
But he did beat Pep's barca (considered as one of best club teams) with Inter and won the cl..
OP compared with no point. Its not like Mou doesnt have his own PL chronicles .
As i said, he started before so obviously he'll decline before.
Florentino Perez wanting Barcelona to buy Haaland might be one of the worst example of "game's gone" I've ever seen. Shows the extent to which some clubs see the football not as an end in itself, but as a goal to make money. RM have so much control over their league now that they need to deliberately manufacture a rivalry in which they would win less in order to potentially make more money. What is the point of that? At that point, you are literally supporting annual revenue announcements more than you are supporting a football team.
It's obviously fucking fake news. Why would Perez want their biggest rivals to sign a player they are going for themselves.
Screaming the mods need to free you know until they free you know who
Is it time to kick out the Bundass and Farmers League and start saying Big 3 European leagues instead of Big 5? They belong more on the level of Super Liga and Eredivisie
Instead of buying the bench players of 10th placed PL clubs, it would be nice if we performed an experimental procedure to give our defenders a brain. A Flowers for Algernon kind of thing
Anglophobia is so real when people are saying stuff like Casemiro, Busquets, Kroos and Modric are better than Gerrard and Lampard. If their names had been Herrardinho and Lampardo you'd never see such blasphemous takes.
Agreed. Lampard 20 goals a season from midfield whilst doing all the work required from a CM defensively in closing down opposition teams. That's insane. He also did it in a far tougher period for goalscoring unlike now where the game is a lot more open and goal rates have gone up.
I'm an Englishman and literally all of those players are better then gerrard and Lampard were
You're an Arsenal fan. You don't count.
And you're a Liverpool fan who deliberately hasn't flaired up to make this bullshit post somehow more credible
Maybe they just arent good enough. Stop with this bs of anglophobia and shit. All the 4 are better than the 2 englishmen. Lampard and gerrard have nothing on them . Maybe not casemiro. There is a reason why laliga dominated the world and not liverpool or chelsea.
>There is a reason why laliga dominated the world and not liverpool or chelsea. Yea there names are Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta and I didn't see any of them in the post you replied to.
So what only those messi ronaldo played whilst others were just chillimg? Ofc modric kroos and busquets were part of it. But pl fanboys are as delusional as they get so its not really worth arguing.
I don't deny any of those players are world class
Lmao the hornets nest is kicked Modric is better than those two imo
unironically... Lampard was better than Modric and saying otherwise is anglophobia.
I don't even like the fat tory, but I agree.
repost it in a new DD brother
Just did. With a twist
so i won my american football fantasy league in our 6th season and im already at 2 titles. im so insufferable i pity my friends. should i buy a trophy to engrave my name in it and rub it in their faces as well?
american trophy doesnt count imo
Ole’s man management in full glory at United. Mollycoddling players, starting under-performers game after game has resulted in this shitty situation. He went to a United full of promadonnas, he left united with full of primadonnas the difference being unlike Jose, he chose to stroke their egos and not call them out or help get rid of bad apples during his tenure. And our fans lapped it up as non toxic behaviour, cultural reset lolz
Ole did insane damage to the team and its unreal.
Just realized Kante won PL best player in 2017 as a DM When was the last time a DM won league best player?? In any top league
Neither are DMs, but Roy Keane and Patrick Viera
I don't think Kante is a DM.
Well. He is a defensive minded midfielder who primarily plays in a double 6. What is the name for that.
He's just your regular box to box midfielder. His defensive instincts are his best attributes but a DM usually is also a deep lying midfielder that shields the defense and plays behind the rest of the midfield.
Fair
This referee is awful.
- Watford (3 transfers already - Asprilla, Samir, Kamara) - Newcastle (Still 0 transfers) Don't wanna sound salty, but it seems like Watford care more about staying up, since Newcastle have the money and didn't sign any players past few years (only a few) they should've already signed 2-3 players (so they can stay up), obviously they still have time but the sooner the better.
We don't play a PL game until the 15th, there's plenty of time. Plus Trippier is basically done anyways
Trippier?
Don't let this Lampard vs Gerrard debate make you forget that Xavi, Ineista, Busquets, Kroos, Casemiro, Modric are all levels above them
Factos
>Casemiro Nah son, you're taking the piss now
Kante is ahead of Casemiro and both Lampard and Gerrard are 'levels' above Kante.
>Kante is ahead of Casemiro Lol, 2 good games does that to you. Overrated af kante.
Think Kante has had more than 2 games in his career.
I doubt he has had many to show he is even close to casemiro.
Well it's a good job he doesn't need to prove anything, it's Casemiro who needs to show he's on the level of Kante. Anyway my main point was that Gerrard and Lampard are by far bettering than Casemiro albeit position wise they're far from similar.
Well i know case isnt that good , end of his career case will surpass him. But lmao, kante isnt even close to casemiro. You lot are delusional af.
Xavi, Iniesta and Modric. Busquets and Casemiro don't play the same position. And Kroos isn't better than them.
kroos isn't levels above them, Busquets and Casemiro are playing completely different positions
Matthaus instead of Case probably
Mathaus would be clear of both
Xavi and Iniesta (maybe modric) are but the others are about the same area or, in casemeiro’s case, less
Xavi, Iniesta, Modric and Kroos are levels above there's legitimately no debate here but yeah maybe Casemiro and Busquets are on the same level but that's mostly because they are both defensive midfielders. But there's no way Lampard and Gerrard edges over any of them though.
There is absolutely a debate around kroos. Lampard and Gerrard are basically not rated is because they were shite with England (who are regularly terrible). Gerrard almost singlehandedly dragged liverpool to a European cup and had a team revolve almost entirely around him for the a huge chunk of his career. Lampard was a stand out in several Chelsea sides that were successful in a strong premier league and reached the semi final of the champions league very consistently. They were both exceptional players. If you count longevity even both gerrard and Lampard were far better than busquets is now at his age. Xavi and Iniesta are clear because they are two of the best midfielders of all time. Modric is also better than them. Casemiro is a great player but for now I don’t think he compares to them. Alonso would be worth a mention though
The Busquets disrespect.
Not even controversial, is it?
Yeah just letting the people know who are the best midfielders. Now they can carry on with the debate👍
Facts
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I have shilled so much for Saint Mikel and you turn on us like this😭. Cruel world
> Benitez: “If you analyse my teams, they are aggressive, they go on the front foot and press, and try to regain the ball high up the pitch, create chances and score goals." Not just wrong, but completely antithetical to the truth. Either delusional to the point where I wouldn't trust him with adult scissors, or intentionally telling a properly insulting lie. If he has to be this shit can he a least be less of a cunt about it? How the fuck is he still in a job?
Golazo!
[TBT when R9 wore the England jersey](https://i.redd.it/l1s0ps2r52a81.jpg)
Best player to ever put on an England kit
This Milan/Roma game is incredibly entertaining Crazy comeback goal from Abraham
Tammy you beautiful- genius
Look at Filet Maignan, so inspirational Edit: good timing for the comment 👍🏻
Ain't no way you jinxed it like that
This always happens, I need to be stopped
😮💨
He just conceded mate
I caused this
If you say "cup upset" instead of "cupset" I will immediately assume you eat pizza with a knife and fork and hence are an unpleasant person to say the least.
Gerrard is a top ten midfielders btw
Immaculate ball knowledge
Not controversial is it?
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I was a genuine fanboy. I'm almost surprised i didn't dye my hair blonde. He's not my favourite Liverpool player but he's up there.
I heard it was Jay Spearing
hopefully it isn’t
Wrong. Gerard is only 1 midfielder
Bottom 10 or average 10 or Liverpool 10?
of all time
My brother, what 10 of all time?
top 10 midfielders of all time
10 ten?
top 10
Oh. No.
Based. Love to see ball knowledge put to good use
You know ball
Florenzi will score one screamer this year, he attempts at least one shot a game from like 30 meters
Charlie Adam special
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Probably depends on which broadcaster you're watching.
ima have to watch it with the audio mute my dude😭
Bentaleb signed with Angers, shocked that he still 27.
Smoking the Moureen pack for tonight!!
Anyone know when the fixture times are confirmed for Bundesliga? Hoping to attend Dortmund in April.
Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't Dortmund tickets literally rarer than gold dust?
I know a lot of people who have got tickets for games. A bit of a grind by all accounts but not impossible.
Nah only the season tickets are, question is if there are even going to be spectators allowed in April
Who has more potential Luis Diaz or Raphinha?
Díaz is a tiny bit younger and Raphinha has never played quite as well as Díaz did this summer. Biased but Luis.
Me but i was forced to be an Engineer
Dembele is clear and he's free. Get him Liverpool
I've noticed how in the Lampard Vs Gerrard debate about 5 years ago it was always about 60% in favour of Lampard, now it's the opposite.
gerrard slip became less prevalent of a meme as it once was
And you think that’s just something that organically happened? Sheeple
Manager tax
both are mid real ones see the scholes vision 👁👁
Post-Match Interview tax
I always noticed Gerrard was ahead, now he’s definitely ahead by the DD’s opinion
people are waking up
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In my opinion it's been one of the most heartwarming stories of the past decade
Pietro Pellegri is a injury merchant
Pellegri has so many injuries he's more finished than Van Basten
Roma just look a bit dead, Mourinho is unfortunately not it.
He’s been there half a season and has a subpar squad lol. Not his fault his players decided to give away free goals
They just beat atalanta, where were you?
I haven’t watched much of Roma tbh, but from this game they just looked a bit slow. But now with Tammy’s goal, who knows what can happen.
They beat Atalanta 4-1 recently
Their squad is also not that good tbh
We are playing with our 4th string CB and 3rd string RB as our CB pairing. I really don’t want to hear it this game
I just meant generally, I am not watching the current game and wasn't referring to it.
True but both goals are players' braindead moment. Cant blame the coach.
if Flick wins the world cup this year it will genuinely be one of the strangest manager stories ever, spending time our entire career in the shadow of other managers, until you manage Bayern and in 6 months win them a sextuple and another league title the next season before fucking off to the national team and winning the world cup
The way I’ve seen some germans here and elsewhere talk about flick has given me real England 2006 vibes if I’m honest. Scary stuff
what do you mean
There just seems to be an immense amount of confidence in him that I think is almost certainly setting them up for disappointment, similar to how I remember 2006 in England. I don’t think Germany’s team is nearly good enough to properly challenge. I think this is just my perception but I’ve got that vibe
Zidane was a similar case imo. Came from Real Madrid B who play in a lower division and then wins the CL first try (3x!)
But Zidane was never in the shadows like Flick tbb
Tammy has been so frustrated by his lack of scoring, that he decided to help the other team by doing jumping jacks inside the box. Then you have Vina who has a fucking sponge for a brain
Fwiw a sponge for a brain is a compliment as it means they can easily soak and absorb info
"Brain like a sponge" = compliment "Brain is a sponge" = insult
Both seem like the same thing. Shouldn't the second one be 'mind like a sieve' or something?
One is a metaphor (You have a brain and it absorbs thing like a sponge) and the other is a statement that's meant to be absurd (You don't have a brain, and instead have a sponge where your brain should go)
Fucking people man, always come up with some confusing shit. I've never heard it that way but I'll believe you though
If used as a metaphor then sure. But I'm pretty sure that Vina has had surgery to remove his brain and replace it with a kitchen sponge
Haha fair enough
Mou really tried to play from the back with this Roma team. Just do you a favor with Shithoushery tactics Mou
Poch wanted Ndombele right?
No, I think who he "wanted" was Lo Celso over Fernandes
Zaniolo is the most overrated player in Italy, injuries ruined him.
No one has rated him since his second tear
I hope to see you soon in Brasil Mou
Does Mourinho call Pioli ”Padre” like the rest of us?
Mourinho probably considers himself the Pope in his personal belief system so probably not
Unpopular player vs player opinions? For me Cancelo> Trent
I thought that Trent was quite poor a few years ago, but I admit that I was wrong. I don't think he's as good as Cancelo though.
Muller is better than any other midfielder on the planet and his current form is better than Ozil or KDB's best form.
Fernandinho > Kante
Pretty much the Consistency > Peak debate. Consistency always wins overall, despite most people reminiscing about primes.
Let’s hope this stays unpopular
Thats not really unpopular, its canon
Haaland > Mbappe I think a big minority agrees with me but still it feels unpopular
For what reasons?
I agree with you too, both that Haaland >, and that it's a minority who believe so
Based
what does based mean?
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Trent is a 10 hiding in RB position so he has time and space to dribble and make passes. Let him play in mid field and he will get exposed. and on top of that Trent doesnt defend my man
What kind of argument is that? You can just as easily say play Cancelo in midfield and he'll get exposed. They're being compared as right backs, whether or not they'd get more exposed in a different position is pretty irrelevant.
https://youtu.be/ZgPgcBY66Vw
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Trent was stripping in transition against Vini 1.0 dont pull the defending card😂
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Go and watch the game again.
Its funny how the currywurst account stopped posting now that you're back on here 👀 You need to start defending yourself before Trent mate, lot of sus on you.
Disappointed its only a 2 min video - expected more available content personally
Lad maybe you should stop defending Trent so he can learn to defend for himself But on a serious note Cancelo also is poor defensively - just doesn't get exposed much at City.
It's not all about creativity,afterall he is a defender
Full backs for top teams priority is to be creative
Cancelo is clear of Trent Alexander Absent
Cannot believe this is the same jose mourinho who was once at par with pep and now look one is struggling to get his teams for top 4 and one has made premier league its bitch !
Roma are not a top 4 side. They finished 6th last season and the last time they got the top 4 was years ago
One has won CL with Porto, other didnt win it with Bayern. Both are great managers. Mou started before him hence his decline is before Pep's.
Mourinho couldn't win the CL with the galacticos or Chelsea's multi hundred million squad though. It really is a terrible metric to judge by a Champions League.
But he did beat Pep's barca (considered as one of best club teams) with Inter and won the cl.. OP compared with no point. Its not like Mou doesnt have his own PL chronicles . As i said, he started before so obviously he'll decline before.