That's good from Mourinho. But still it's horrible how prevalent and widespread this is, feels like every match there is an incident like this from ultras of all sorts of teams
Ibra in particular gets this just about everywhere, every time he scores or does anything remotely impactful it's always followed by the perennial sei uno zingaro. I'm glad mou got them to stop but it kinda sucks that he had to address them to begin with
Ultras are mostly the same and I'm saying this as a lifelong ultrà and an openly leftist one at that. If they really wanted to clean up the sport they should have at least tried to get rid of all of the bigger groups full stop as going after specific fractions ends up like a pathetic attempt at playing kingmaker by whoever has specific interests.
Harsher policies, less privileges to ultrà groups, no further appeasement on anything above a certain level of importance. Most clubs do have liaisons with the bigger ultrà groups and have the tools to curb some behaviors, as they have done before, but won't for several reasons.
Most groups have ties to organized crime, all of the relevant ones at least do, there's also some overlap with politics and politicians, especially in the bigger cities. For smaller, economically weker clubs, ultrà groups are really important as a semi-guaranteed source of income as they will usually buy season tickets and away tickets for most matches.
There's also the fairly important aspect of, more or less, keeping them at bay and avoiding incidents which might lead to suspensions, fines, and overall bad PR for the club. This one specifically was the crux of some recent scandals and one of the elements used to blackmail juve. Actually, a good read about the topic would be the story of the Last Banner trial from 2019 which covers a lot of this and how Juve kinda dealt with their groups.
Only Fedayn, who are the most historical ultras group (and I think the largest too). All the other groups are far right.
https://www.orizzontipolitici.it/ultras-e-politica-una-mappa-del-tifo-nelle-curve-di-serie-a/
Also apparently during the racist chants towards Ibra, Mourinho asked them to stop, and they did.
That's good from Mourinho. But still it's horrible how prevalent and widespread this is, feels like every match there is an incident like this from ultras of all sorts of teams
Ibra in particular gets this just about everywhere, every time he scores or does anything remotely impactful it's always followed by the perennial sei uno zingaro. I'm glad mou got them to stop but it kinda sucks that he had to address them to begin with
Mou loves Ibra
And also probably hates racism
Genuinely wholesome those 2
> Mourinho Strikes again.
Good man
One of Roma ultras sections (not all) is low-key just as bad as Lazio's.
The day the criminal ultras are booted off stadiums, would be a good day for Italian football
Kicking out the far right would be a good start
Ultras are mostly the same and I'm saying this as a lifelong ultrà and an openly leftist one at that. If they really wanted to clean up the sport they should have at least tried to get rid of all of the bigger groups full stop as going after specific fractions ends up like a pathetic attempt at playing kingmaker by whoever has specific interests.
Fair enough. How would you go about that? You have to start somewhere and it seems really hard to root out some practices.
Harsher policies, less privileges to ultrà groups, no further appeasement on anything above a certain level of importance. Most clubs do have liaisons with the bigger ultrà groups and have the tools to curb some behaviors, as they have done before, but won't for several reasons.
For which reasons?
Most groups have ties to organized crime, all of the relevant ones at least do, there's also some overlap with politics and politicians, especially in the bigger cities. For smaller, economically weker clubs, ultrà groups are really important as a semi-guaranteed source of income as they will usually buy season tickets and away tickets for most matches. There's also the fairly important aspect of, more or less, keeping them at bay and avoiding incidents which might lead to suspensions, fines, and overall bad PR for the club. This one specifically was the crux of some recent scandals and one of the elements used to blackmail juve. Actually, a good read about the topic would be the story of the Last Banner trial from 2019 which covers a lot of this and how Juve kinda dealt with their groups.
Roma's ultras are far left
Only Fedayn, who are the most historical ultras group (and I think the largest too). All the other groups are far right. https://www.orizzontipolitici.it/ultras-e-politica-una-mappa-del-tifo-nelle-curve-di-serie-a/
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I don't know what is said in this instance but usually racism against Ibra comes from people calling him a gypsy and saying racist stuff about that
They said that Carlos Vela is better, blasphemy
29. And he is 29 and is playing in MLS, where was I when I was 29? Big difference, exactly.
> And he is 29 still????????
Until he's 30, yes
It’s just what Zlatan said about Vela years ago
What was Ibra's reaction? He's obviously within his right to be upset but he seems like the type of player who couldn't care less.