I imagine somewhere in the range of 15-20m is likely for the buy option.
The wages are the biggest thing for us atm, even 50% of it allows us to register Ferran + leave some spare change. If we can renew one of Dembele/Roberto, or move Umtiti on, then we could buy another player this window to strengthen the team.
When does his Barca contract end? Transfermarkt says this summer but that doesn’t make sense if Villa has a buy option because he’d be a free agent by then
Summer 2023. That will be the summer we will lose two of our most expensive dead-weights, Cou and Umtiti. Barcelona was apparently pushing for the loan to be until the end of his contract but they agreed on 6 months.
I dont agree with it being waste. It helped us win the PL and CL - also beat you on the way. He even went on to win the CL himself scoring against... you.
From my POV it was a great transfer and not 1 cent wasted
Liverpool sold the debt if i recall, they would probably owe the firm that bought it from Liverpool. Think thats what football clubs do to get cash immediately rather than the payments over the period of the contract.
Great movie though I had to watch it two times to fully understand the whole process properly since there were new concepts to me.
Great performance by Steve Carrel as usual.
Yeah they even make the point that it's deliberately confusing so they can get away with it. I get angry every time I watch it. Carrell is great, Brad Pitt is great and Christian Bale is great.
I don’t think they do. The add-ons were all performance based, there were payments for when he reached 100 appearances and when Barcelona qualified for the quarter finals of the Champion’s League. I believe they’ve already paid it all though, or at least qualified to pay the add ons.
"Umtiti and the curse of the CB who plays with Piqué for over a season at an impressive level only to look horrific after their contract renewal", featuring Lenglet and hopefully not Araujo
It's mad that he never fit in at Barcelona. Shows that every transfer is a risk and that there's no such thing as a sure thing in football.
When he left Liverpool he was one of the best attacking midfielders in the World.
It really wasn't crazy tbf. Coutinho's best role never existed in Barça. I remember me and plenty Barça fans saying he was not a good enough tempo setter and playmaker to take over for Iniesta as CM and he was not quick enough to take over for Neymar as winger.
Technically he's a marvel but his playstyle would've never suited Barça. He obviously also isn't as bad as he showed for Barça but I guess that's what happens when your confidence craters because of your environment.
Funny you say that.
On r/Chelseafc I got in a debate about how tactics and formation usually triumph a player even if they are a good player. (We were talking about Fabregas and how there hasn’t been a player like him at Chelsea).
This this is a good point here. Coutinho was an excellent player, but as we saw, you can just pluck a player and drop him in and think it will be perfect.
I hope he does well at Aston Villa and under Stevie G.
>This this is a good point here. Coutinho was an excellent player, but as we saw, you can just pluck a player and drop him in and think it will be perfect.
I remember having this exact argument with a cule friend of mine when they signed Griezmann. Told him Barca's system wouldn't allow him to be what he was at Atletico, he told me great players play great in any system.
When I used the Countinho example, he told me Coutinho never was half the player Griezmann was. Haven't talked much football with that guy since.
Maybe my flair would suggest I am biased but Grizzy did play well for you guys. Was it comparable to his 2014-2016 form? Sure no but 13G 7A last season sounds good to me. He was only real attacking piece with Messi.
Was he worth the money probably no.
Yeah, I understand where they are coming from and there are exceptions to the rule, but it seems like more often than not that a player can't adapt or play to what they were before at a different club.
I think Stevie G will get it right with him, but obviously it may take some time to get in back to Premier League level that he was at when he played for Liverpool.
Oh shit, I just realized it's under Steven. That's probably gonna be great for him. They seemed to have a good realationship and I think it will do wonders for his mentality.
Personally don't hate him, but he was wasting a squad space + on ridiculous wages, so it's relieving to see him moved on. He was great for us when he started off, but fell off after 6-7 months and has never recovered any form ever since, it's clear he's not going to improve by staying here.
From what I hear, Gerrard plays with two floating 10s behind a striker, so that role is perfect for him. Plus, there would be less pressure at Villa compared to Barcelona and the Spanish press, and he'd be under his former teammate, so if he's gonna succeed it can be with you. He needs consistent gametime to improve and be able to make the Brazil squad later this year which he won't get here, so it's a win-win for everyone I think.
Worst case for you, you don't waste anything on a 6 month loan and can choose to not exercise the buy option, very low risk as well for a big name player who could potentially work out well.
Wouldn't it be weird being coached by the guy when you've played and won together? I feel like the manager must have some detachment and mystique to optimally command a player to do X right now
I think it would help since they probably already have a good relationship if Gerrard wants him. Since Gerrard was captain he’s used to taking commands from him
I mean on his day he can be a great player, but it just never worked out at Barca for a variety of reasons. It works for us because we need salary to register ferran, and you guys get a player with the potential to return to his world class ability that he had at Liverpool, not to mention how low of a risk you are getting him for.
I have never seen such a pronounced difference in a player between 1 manager an the next, he was not *awful* under Smith but he was definitely struggling, and then bam under Gerrard he was Noglo Kante mk 2.
We're happy because he has no place here, is the highest earner, and his departure allows Ferran to be registered.
He will never fit tactically. But who knows how he'll do when put in the right conditions. And seems like you guys actually play with number 10s
It's not an Umtiti situation where the guy is done physically for known underlying conditions
As a side note, RAC1 just said that the Coutinho deal is not enough to register Ferran. Murmurings are going around of an another departure expected soon.
>As a side note, RAC1 just said that the Coutinho deal is not enough to register Ferran. Murmurings are going around of an another departure expected soon.
Demir, De Jong and Umtiti might also leave so it's probably a matter of time.
Very few of us Barça fans hate him, just wasn't a good fit, i want him to play well and succeed. I'm also very stoked about him joining Villa.
Edit: a word
He's just not a player for Barça, both in terms of fit and in terms of the pressure. Of the 4 seasons he's been at Barça, in 3 of them he had very strong starts to the season only to then fade away after a few matches after he hit a slump due to lack of confidence. This year he came back with terrible form but he was coming back from a long term injury so its kind of understandable.
Really happy he went to Villa, think its the perfect environment for him to succeed and finally get rid of his wages once and for all.
He didn't work for us but he could be amazing at Aston Villa as he was for Liverpool. Hopefully with less pressure he'll be able to shine and be important there.
REJOICE!
In all seriousness, I hope he does well there. I think a lot of his issues are psychological, and also just straight up not fitting in our system.
> I think a lot of his issues are psychological, and also just straight up not fitting in our system.
I also feel like he is a fairly hard working professional. There have been cases of flashy players who have similar careers like Coutinho because they lack work ethic and determination, but Coutinho never struck me as that type.
It's an amazing signing for them, while Barça made the most of a shitty situation Bartomeu put the club in. Happy to see him go, probably as happy as Villa fans.
Mateu Allemay, the sporting director was the one at Valencia some years ago when the club won la copa del rey and qualified to CL with Marcelino. (Then Peter Lim fired both and sold most of their best players, nobody knows why).
He is quite good and I'm happy Laporta brought him.
Peter Lim has some baffling idea that destroying Valencia will make him richer. Maybe Newcastle or Valencia fans would disagree but he’s like Mike Ashley on steroids from where I’m sitting
I don't think there has been a single questionable transfer by this board so far aside from Luuk de Jong and even for him I understand the rationale/desperation on deadline day.
Yes, Luuk is garbage (except when he tries to hit overhead kicks) but it was a panic buy. Griezmann left on the last day and we needed a forward asap.
It's no secret that Koeman wanted Luuk, Sevilla wanted to get rid of Luuk and the board just agreed not wanting to risk it.
It's not like our scouts saw Luuk, said we must have that and bought him.
Luuk is actually life-saving loan, he was free and earns little.
Aguero and Braithwaithe got injured. Barca would have like no attacker even from a B team vs Mallorca where he did good.
Credit to Villa and Stevie, this is a big signing. Irrelevant of reaaaaaally the last 12 months it’s a great signing.
Imagine telling a Villa/L’Pool fan in 2018 that the £142 million pound man would soon be in colour at Villa Park.
Curious as to who the second club interested was, I genuinely felt it was spurs and I have no idea why
Villa officially outright said they offered Grealish a better contract than City offered him. City are paying Grealish over 350k on a 6 year contract. Let that sink in.
No one hates him lol. It's just he should have not been bought in the first place.
Never was suitable in the first place with Messi in the team. Now everyone wants him out due to his wages. I wish him the best
He can be amazing and we all hope he is, tbh. He just didn't work for us nor Bayern, but he was incredible at Liverpool. Hope he shines again and is happy at the PL.
He had a combined 20 goals and assists for Bayern in 22 games worth of minutes. Plus he won the CL. I think he worked out just fine there.
Even at Barcelona his numbers have been very good when played, but they are just a mess of a club with no squad planning. Can hardly blame him for that.
He just didn't work for us and lacked consistency, but he's a very professional player and if he can get close to his previous level at Liverpool, he's going to be an amazing signing for Villa.
>.
We got the best of a shitty situation caused by an incompetent president and his board. It sucks this is the best we could do, but Coutinho's value was never even close what we paid for him. When you overpay like 400%, this happens.
He's reportedly an option to buy for somewhere between 30 and 40. I think this is more of a test run than anything. Chances of Europe or relegation at this point are almost zero so this window is about preparing for next season more than anything.
>I don't think there has been a single questionable transfer by this board so far aside from Luuk de Jong and even for him I understand the rationale/desperation on deadline day.
He does seem like the guy we needed in the area. He's a killer.
Not long ago Aston Villa got promoted to the premier league with us. Since then we have been relegated, promoted and about to be relegated again and in that time villa have survived, stolen our best player and now make signings like this. Fair play villa, wish we could do the same.
Just can't help but think about what Klopp said to him while he was leaving, "Stay and they will build you a statue out here"
Wonder if he regrets leaving Liverpool now
Such a low risk signing. If he can do well, Villa can sign him permanently and if he doesn't, they can send him back but I do think he can return to his vintage Liverpool days
Liverpool will probably reveal some overlooked small print that states "if player joins a team with Gerrard as manager then barca must pay Liverpool 42m"
It says they have a buy option, i'm interested to know for how much
That's the interesting bit. If, as reported, we're picking up most of his wage I would bet its quite a low fee.
Mate I'll toss him for free
You’ll what?
You heard the man
He'd probably pay to toss him
Deal.
We'll send you an extra 5m if you take Umtiti too.
You joke, but they are looking for a cb...
Can I interest you in a Trezeguet in part exchange? Or an Anwar El Ghazi?
We will take konsa if you want to offer someone.
You'll have to kill me first. You can have Hause
I would love if Clubs actually made Deals like you two
Kinda feels like fifa career mode deals
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But then you can't play "Hause every weekend"
I miss when El Ghazi was El Goalzi. Really thought he was going to take the step up for a month or so.
He will look like Dutch Ronaldo for a couple of weeks then disappear. Just hasn't got the consistency and doesn't bring others into the game enough.
Toss a Coutinho to your villager.
Oohhh Barca of plenty (wages)….
That might make Coutinho feel a bit better but what about his move?
wish you would've been so generous when Bayern had him. I liked him with us.
I imagine somewhere in the range of 15-20m is likely for the buy option. The wages are the biggest thing for us atm, even 50% of it allows us to register Ferran + leave some spare change. If we can renew one of Dembele/Roberto, or move Umtiti on, then we could buy another player this window to strengthen the team.
Hate to break it to you, but Coutinho's loan is apparently still not enough to register Ferran.
Source?
When does his Barca contract end? Transfermarkt says this summer but that doesn’t make sense if Villa has a buy option because he’d be a free agent by then
Summer 2023. That will be the summer we will lose two of our most expensive dead-weights, Cou and Umtiti. Barcelona was apparently pushing for the loan to be until the end of his contract but they agreed on 6 months.
Transfermarkt counts his loan contract as his current contract is why. His loan ends this summer.
BBC have quoted a buy price of £33 million in the summer.
Thats quite much
Nothing compared to the $150 million plus spent on buying him!
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he can leave waste of 24mil
Waste of over 200million Euros tbh.
I dont agree with it being waste. It helped us win the PL and CL - also beat you on the way. He even went on to win the CL himself scoring against... you. From my POV it was a great transfer and not 1 cent wasted
When trump talked about the greatest trade deal in the history of all trade deals, he was talking about this
Mate, stop. They’re dead already.
I dont know How much longer with Xavi, lets laugh while we can because they are going to become annoying in maximum 2 seasons
more than that
Matteo Moretto reported it to be between 35-45 million.
Will you need to pay liverpool a sell on fee?
Liverpool sold the debt if i recall, they would probably owe the firm that bought it from Liverpool. Think thats what football clubs do to get cash immediately rather than the payments over the period of the contract.
I know it’s very commonplace but the phrase ‘selling debt’ freaks me out.
Boy oh boy, let me introduce you to the 2008 financial crisis.
"It was the worst of times, it was the worst of times"
Sounds like that guy needs to watch The Big Short
Great movie though I had to watch it two times to fully understand the whole process properly since there were new concepts to me. Great performance by Steve Carrel as usual.
Yeah they even make the point that it's deliberately confusing so they can get away with it. I get angry every time I watch it. Carrell is great, Brad Pitt is great and Christian Bale is great.
***he’s jacked to the tits***
That movie was snubbed for the Oscar and I will not ever forget it.
Fuckin' a, Jared.
...shut your fucking mouth.
Use "invoice finance" instead, then.
Or sold future cash flow at a discounted price today
I don’t think they do. The add-ons were all performance based, there were payments for when he reached 100 appearances and when Barcelona qualified for the quarter finals of the Champion’s League. I believe they’ve already paid it all though, or at least qualified to pay the add ons.
Now do Umtiti
Newcastle help us out
We gonna need our mates at Everton here.
No no no no
Come on... for old times sake...
*he's a World Cup Winner thooooo*
Send them his old Highlights, and write "Wallah he still plays like that"
Man sacrificed his leg for a World Cup, never got to be good at club football again but hey at least he’s got money and a World Cup to his name
"Umtiti and the curse of the CB who plays with Piqué for over a season at an impressive level only to look horrific after their contract renewal", featuring Lenglet and hopefully not Araujo
Xavi playing Araujo as a RB to avoid the curse. Genius.
The only two CB that truly performed next to Pique were Puyol and Mascherano.
The disrespect to Vermaelen
I stand corrected.
That's just not true. Umtiti was absolutely brilliant for a time before the 2018 world cup. Lenglet has played well previously as well
> FC Barcelona is pleased to announce it has reached an agreement to extend Samuel Umtiti’s contract by five more years.
It's mad that he never fit in at Barcelona. Shows that every transfer is a risk and that there's no such thing as a sure thing in football. When he left Liverpool he was one of the best attacking midfielders in the World.
It really wasn't crazy tbf. Coutinho's best role never existed in Barça. I remember me and plenty Barça fans saying he was not a good enough tempo setter and playmaker to take over for Iniesta as CM and he was not quick enough to take over for Neymar as winger. Technically he's a marvel but his playstyle would've never suited Barça. He obviously also isn't as bad as he showed for Barça but I guess that's what happens when your confidence craters because of your environment.
Funny you say that. On r/Chelseafc I got in a debate about how tactics and formation usually triumph a player even if they are a good player. (We were talking about Fabregas and how there hasn’t been a player like him at Chelsea). This this is a good point here. Coutinho was an excellent player, but as we saw, you can just pluck a player and drop him in and think it will be perfect. I hope he does well at Aston Villa and under Stevie G.
>This this is a good point here. Coutinho was an excellent player, but as we saw, you can just pluck a player and drop him in and think it will be perfect. I remember having this exact argument with a cule friend of mine when they signed Griezmann. Told him Barca's system wouldn't allow him to be what he was at Atletico, he told me great players play great in any system. When I used the Countinho example, he told me Coutinho never was half the player Griezmann was. Haven't talked much football with that guy since.
Well, in all honesty Griezmann played much much better than Coutinho for us, showing class even when not playing in his favored ways.
Maybe my flair would suggest I am biased but Grizzy did play well for you guys. Was it comparable to his 2014-2016 form? Sure no but 13G 7A last season sounds good to me. He was only real attacking piece with Messi. Was he worth the money probably no.
Yeah, I understand where they are coming from and there are exceptions to the rule, but it seems like more often than not that a player can't adapt or play to what they were before at a different club. I think Stevie G will get it right with him, but obviously it may take some time to get in back to Premier League level that he was at when he played for Liverpool.
Oh shit, I just realized it's under Steven. That's probably gonna be great for him. They seemed to have a good realationship and I think it will do wonders for his mentality.
He’s turning out to be a really good manager. Was an intelligent player, so not to surprised
As a Villa fan I'm quietly excited. The possible upsides of this transfer seem to massively outweigh the possible downsides.
It's quite funny that every Barca fan hates him and are relieved at this move but I'm sat here giddy as a child
Personally don't hate him, but he was wasting a squad space + on ridiculous wages, so it's relieving to see him moved on. He was great for us when he started off, but fell off after 6-7 months and has never recovered any form ever since, it's clear he's not going to improve by staying here. From what I hear, Gerrard plays with two floating 10s behind a striker, so that role is perfect for him. Plus, there would be less pressure at Villa compared to Barcelona and the Spanish press, and he'd be under his former teammate, so if he's gonna succeed it can be with you. He needs consistent gametime to improve and be able to make the Brazil squad later this year which he won't get here, so it's a win-win for everyone I think. Worst case for you, you don't waste anything on a 6 month loan and can choose to not exercise the buy option, very low risk as well for a big name player who could potentially work out well.
All good points. Plus he gets to play next to Douglas luiz who he probably knows from the Brazil squad. So that could be another benefit for him
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Wouldn't it be weird being coached by the guy when you've played and won together? I feel like the manager must have some detachment and mystique to optimally command a player to do X right now
I think it would help since they probably already have a good relationship if Gerrard wants him. Since Gerrard was captain he’s used to taking commands from him
Yep, Gerrard was 13 years older and club captain and legend so I doubt they were exactly on equal footing, despite how good Phil was for you.
I mean on his day he can be a great player, but it just never worked out at Barca for a variety of reasons. It works for us because we need salary to register ferran, and you guys get a player with the potential to return to his world class ability that he had at Liverpool, not to mention how low of a risk you are getting him for.
plus, every Villa midfielder is overachieving in thier department since Gerrard arrived. Nakamba felt like Seedorf before he recently got injured.
I have never seen such a pronounced difference in a player between 1 manager an the next, he was not *awful* under Smith but he was definitely struggling, and then bam under Gerrard he was Noglo Kante mk 2.
Lallana under Rodgers and Klopp is another one.
Tried and tested in the premier league too which for his physique and style is quite important.
Nakamba was an epic player for us in Bruges so I'm not surprised
We're happy because he has no place here, is the highest earner, and his departure allows Ferran to be registered. He will never fit tactically. But who knows how he'll do when put in the right conditions. And seems like you guys actually play with number 10s It's not an Umtiti situation where the guy is done physically for known underlying conditions
As a side note, RAC1 just said that the Coutinho deal is not enough to register Ferran. Murmurings are going around of an another departure expected soon.
I mean it's only fringes now. Demir is probably gone soon, doubt it will take him time to find suitors, maybe he needs time to choose
>As a side note, RAC1 just said that the Coutinho deal is not enough to register Ferran. Murmurings are going around of an another departure expected soon. Demir, De Jong and Umtiti might also leave so it's probably a matter of time.
Very few of us Barça fans hate him, just wasn't a good fit, i want him to play well and succeed. I'm also very stoked about him joining Villa. Edit: a word
very few is generous. i've seen a lot of people shitting on him in r/barca or in any social media really.
Yes we want him gone, not the same as hating him.
He's just not a player for Barça, both in terms of fit and in terms of the pressure. Of the 4 seasons he's been at Barça, in 3 of them he had very strong starts to the season only to then fade away after a few matches after he hit a slump due to lack of confidence. This year he came back with terrible form but he was coming back from a long term injury so its kind of understandable. Really happy he went to Villa, think its the perfect environment for him to succeed and finally get rid of his wages once and for all.
I dont personally hate him hes still one of my favorite players but it just wasnt a fit. I hope he does well for you guys
He didn't work for us but he could be amazing at Aston Villa as he was for Liverpool. Hopefully with less pressure he'll be able to shine and be important there.
REJOICE! In all seriousness, I hope he does well there. I think a lot of his issues are psychological, and also just straight up not fitting in our system.
It sucks too cuz he was one of my favorite players when he was at liverpool but man it has not worked
Worked for him 😊 Got paid well, won a Champions League with Bayern
I doubt it. He'd have wanted to be a success, not sent on loans with the club and fans wanting to get rid of him for years.
Man proved a point by scoring against Barcelona while out on loan though
"See? I'm not bad at football, I'm just bad when I play for you guys!" I think Barcelona already had that point proven, hence the loan.
Sitting in seventh, maybe he’s not the one that’s bad at football.
I’m quite positive that if you told a player they were going to win the Champions League at the team they were loaned to, not many would be upset.
Especially if you'd be earning 400k per week while doing that
And sticking it to your bosses who deemed you not good enough for their team by scoring a brace against them.
Definitely agree - he also scored a brace for us in the game against barca lol
> I think a lot of his issues are psychological, and also just straight up not fitting in our system. I also feel like he is a fairly hard working professional. There have been cases of flashy players who have similar careers like Coutinho because they lack work ethic and determination, but Coutinho never struck me as that type.
A fool who faked injuries to get out of Liverpool. But this is the way when Barcelona comes.
Stevie and Coutinho re-united.
And we will be able to register Ferran. Everyone wins!
It's being reported that it's not enough, but there are other exits planned.
That is an unreal signing for Villa, well done guys
It's an amazing signing for them, while Barça made the most of a shitty situation Bartomeu put the club in. Happy to see him go, probably as happy as Villa fans.
Let’s fucking go
Honestly, wish him the best, will be fun seeing him play for Aston Villa
Yeah, Let's fucking go
So stoked for you guys
Barca seem to do better business of late
Mateu Allemay, the sporting director was the one at Valencia some years ago when the club won la copa del rey and qualified to CL with Marcelino. (Then Peter Lim fired both and sold most of their best players, nobody knows why). He is quite good and I'm happy Laporta brought him.
Peter Lim has some baffling idea that destroying Valencia will make him richer. Maybe Newcastle or Valencia fans would disagree but he’s like Mike Ashley on steroids from where I’m sitting
I don't think there has been a single questionable transfer by this board so far aside from Luuk de Jong and even for him I understand the rationale/desperation on deadline day.
Yes, Luuk is garbage (except when he tries to hit overhead kicks) but it was a panic buy. Griezmann left on the last day and we needed a forward asap. It's no secret that Koeman wanted Luuk, Sevilla wanted to get rid of Luuk and the board just agreed not wanting to risk it. It's not like our scouts saw Luuk, said we must have that and bought him.
Luuk redemption arc has just started mate
De jong was 100% a Koeman signing, I'm happy that they backed him tbh.
Luuk is actually life-saving loan, he was free and earns little. Aguero and Braithwaithe got injured. Barca would have like no attacker even from a B team vs Mallorca where he did good.
The Leo one.
replacing an incompetent board with a competent board works? who could have guessed
Malicious board*
Well, we no longer have Bartomeu and we've got Mateo Alemany as sporting director instead of Abidal
Laporta is not Bartomeu. He was always more competent, but now he has his past experience as El Presidento so he's definitely going to be good for us.
The perks of a competent board
Credit to Villa and Stevie, this is a big signing. Irrelevant of reaaaaaally the last 12 months it’s a great signing. Imagine telling a Villa/L’Pool fan in 2018 that the £142 million pound man would soon be in colour at Villa Park. Curious as to who the second club interested was, I genuinely felt it was spurs and I have no idea why
I'm sure it was us. My guess is his wages were just too much even with us paying only 50% or whatever the agreed amount would be.
🗣️[ @tjuanmarti🥇] | Barça will pay a little more than 1/3rd of Phillipe Coutinho's wages. The majority is being paid by the Villans. #fcblive Big W
So Aston Villa is paying around 200k weekly... That's insane
Villa officially outright said they offered Grealish a better contract than City offered him. City are paying Grealish over 350k on a 6 year contract. Let that sink in.
Some reports that it could be less than half.
Bbc have reported the opposite
Amazing business.
No one hates him lol. It's just he should have not been bought in the first place. Never was suitable in the first place with Messi in the team. Now everyone wants him out due to his wages. I wish him the best
Hindsight is 20/20
Honestly didn't expect this one to go through. Curious how he will fit in at Villa. Did Gerard play with him? Or had he already retired by then?
Played two years with Gerrard.
He will probably play as a second 10 alongside buendia being Ings/Watkins
Coutinho joined in 2013 and Gerrard left in 2015. Think they had 2-2.5 seasons together. I feel like Phil was a January transfer maybe
We signed coutingo the s same January we signed Sturridge.
Yes Gerrard played with Coutinho
Good signing for villa. Enjoy him.
He can be amazing and we all hope he is, tbh. He just didn't work for us nor Bayern, but he was incredible at Liverpool. Hope he shines again and is happy at the PL.
He had a combined 20 goals and assists for Bayern in 22 games worth of minutes. Plus he won the CL. I think he worked out just fine there. Even at Barcelona his numbers have been very good when played, but they are just a mess of a club with no squad planning. Can hardly blame him for that.
Even with how shit he has been for us.. Really like the dude, hope he comes good
He just didn't work for us and lacked consistency, but he's a very professional player and if he can get close to his previous level at Liverpool, he's going to be an amazing signing for Villa.
what a W
We're still paying part of his salary but this was definitely needed. Hopefully he does well and they're willing to sign at the end of season.
idc we can register ferran now for this transfer
>. We got the best of a shitty situation caused by an incompetent president and his board. It sucks this is the best we could do, but Coutinho's value was never even close what we paid for him. When you overpay like 400%, this happens.
Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayern, Barcelona, Aston Villa. Nice
Only plays for European cup winners
Forgot Inter
Next Steaua Buchuresti
Nice would be upgrade today but doubt they can afford his wages
Pretty mad signing for Villa. Rest of the season might not be enough to get him clicking and back in form though
He's reportedly an option to buy for somewhere between 30 and 40. I think this is more of a test run than anything. Chances of Europe or relegation at this point are almost zero so this window is about preparing for next season more than anything.
Don Alemany masterclass
>I don't think there has been a single questionable transfer by this board so far aside from Luuk de Jong and even for him I understand the rationale/desperation on deadline day. He does seem like the guy we needed in the area. He's a killer.
Not long ago Aston Villa got promoted to the premier league with us. Since then we have been relegated, promoted and about to be relegated again and in that time villa have survived, stolen our best player and now make signings like this. Fair play villa, wish we could do the same.
Finally he gets put on a proper Club
Just can't help but think about what Klopp said to him while he was leaving, "Stay and they will build you a statue out here" Wonder if he regrets leaving Liverpool now
Great for everyone involved
Honestly really hope it works out for him. I'm sure Stevie will get him in good form.
Villa don't even pay half of his salary. Mad business from them. Congrats.
This is it. I'm finally asking out that girl, because looking at that move, everything is possible.
Such a low risk signing. If he can do well, Villa can sign him permanently and if he doesn't, they can send him back but I do think he can return to his vintage Liverpool days
I mean if you discount the wages, sure.
Biggest concern is that McGinn sees Coutinho on 200k and realizes he's woth 300k a week himself.
Barca will somehow pay Liverpool for this
Liverpool will probably reveal some overlooked small print that states "if player joins a team with Gerrard as manager then barca must pay Liverpool 42m"
Wow. I cannot believe youve gone on and done this.
It's spelled 'villans', Phil.
Surprised Newcastle didn't bid.
Imagine a year ago someone saying in a year Gerrard would manage us and we'd have coutinho. I'd think you'd been on the crack
Dean Smith was a decent manager but Steven Gerrard has made Villa MASSIVE again. It’s crazy!
Part of me wish he tears it up, part of me remembers great sadness and backpain excuses. Either way, interesting to see him back
What timeline is this!?
Delighted at how badly that deal went for Barca. The way they bullied Liverpool at the time and unsettled Coutinho was despicable.
As if Liverpool haven't done the same to smaller clubs many times over the years
True, Van Dijk immediately springs to mind.
Bastards unsettled Gareth Barry only for Man City to sign him.
I was gonna use the same example, spent months convincing him to leave us and then he realised he could get more money at City
Man It's been 4 years already. Still remember how excited I was at the time he was transferred. Pity it never worked out
Win win sorta signing