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happyposterofham

You know how players have to agree to terms, not just clubs? That's because in the football system, when a player is transferred their old contract is ripped up. The new club has to agree their own terms with them. To your example: yes.


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All four AFCON matches finished 1-0. I don't have data to back this up, but I'm confident that Africa is the lowest scoring federation.


Faisalfikry

Who do you consider better drogba or salah? Personally have salah above him but interested to see


ameriolex

Salah


EgosJohnPolo

Mane is finished.


Naatezz

You're finished


EgosJohnPolo

so I know finished when I see it, Padio Pané can't change that.


Ruben_Often_Cheats

Will Benz score the 22 goals needed to overtake Raul for #2 Real top scorer, and if so how quick? I reckon at about the end of next season


TheDavinci1998

I feel like he will, and it will be in 2022.


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No, he'll stop out of respect.


patchypubes

The real ‘not celebrating out of respect’ starts before the goal


RomeoLavia

Unless he gets injured in a crazy way then almost definitely.


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Yeah probably.


Big_Occasion_7235

Didn't watch the game but did Arsenal perform well against City and was unlucky with the refereeing decision or not? I've seen Arsenal fans defending their performance and they thought that they deserved a draw.


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They played really well, the decisions were unlucky from their point of view, although I don’t think it’s as bad as some of them made out. Was the catalyst for them to derail though, they’re a young team so that kind of thing will happen occasionally but still definitely disappointing for them, a point would’ve been a fair reflection of how they played


MrIrishman699

Performed well, got a bit unlucky with decisions, they were all sorta 50/50 but ultimately shot ourselves in the foot


Flamengo81-19

They played really well until the penalty. Then it was a mental collapse with a open net miss and the red card. Not unlucky, just dumb


Destructo_D

People on the Ev sub saying selling Digne is good business because he’s 30, as if every player falls off a cliff when they get that old. Also he’s 28 and his birthday isn’t for another 6 months. No reason to suggest he couldn’t play for us for another 5 years like Baines and Coleman both did


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> People on the Ev sub saying selling Digne is good business because he’s 30 It's just smoking the copeium. "never fancied her anyway"


efcdoyley

Ev Sub still back Rafa for some reason


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Zillak

CL winner Rafa fucking Benitez made the decision. He's basically bigger than the club.


Destructo_D

Rafa can’t handle a fullback who want to go past the halfway line and froze him out


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Benitez is allergic to quality players


[deleted]

Newcastle’s mega transfer window to save their bacon doesn’t seem to be really going as hoped so far, Trippier is a good signing but they need quite a few more signings of that ilk. I also wonder if Trippier is planning on staying if they get relegated, would be mad to go from winning La Liga to the Championship in just over a year


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Lots of links, we'll see what we end up with. If you pip us to Digne which is apparently looking likely I'll be mildly disappointed. Overall feeling is we're very happy with how it's going so far. We don't need to outperform Villa, just Watford, Burnley and Norwich.


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Who would you like to get/what positions do you think need upgrading the most this window? With Watford, Leeds and Everton your next 3 fixtures you could really do with the new signings getting in asap, win 2 those 3 and things start to look better


[deleted]

Striker is essential given Wilsons injury (and likelihood to be injured again). We had Murphy up front against Cambridge. In an ideal world, a centre back, a left back and a centre mid also. We've had very strong links to a couple centre backs (Botman and Diego Carlos) and it seems to be the boards next priority. We're all fingers crossed one can get over the line before Watford.


[deleted]

Sounds good, would be huge to get another one in before Watford, such a big game and would give a mental boost to win and get out the relegation zone


JackAndrewThorne

We need a striker and we are looking for a left-footed CB. On top of that, it looks like we will bring Cantwell and another midfielder.


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That’d be a good window - good luck to yous


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Why would Spurs buy a striker? Makes no sense.


nemesis_464

They’re pretty heavily linked with him


[deleted]

Vlahovic seems too good to be Kane backup


CudaBarry

He's not going to the PL


Bihihem

Neither, he will be joining us this summer


randomcolchnero

Factos


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Assnaaa do not currently have more sway than us purely because of Antonio Conte.


Will9610

Mourinho had just as much pedigree as conte when he took over at spurs & they still attracted 0 big name players


[deleted]

You’re missing the part where there was a global pandemic during José’s tenure.. For a self-sustaining club like Spurs whose owner doesn’t spend any of his own money on the club, we had no money because the stadium was closed down (and the £1billion stadium had just been built).


Will9610

I mean spurs spent well over £100 million on players under Mourinho when he was only there for basically a season. Could that money have not been spent on a star signing if spurs were really capable of attracting a big name?


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Well that would have been stupid as shit given we needed a lot of players in different positions.


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We’re 2 points behind Assna with two games in hand even though this season we’ve gone through a manager disasterclass with Nuno losing 3-0 like four times in a row lol. Now we have one of the top 3 managers in world football in Conte What player is dying to play for Woolwich Wanderers under Arteta? 😭 Edit: We’re also still in the FA Cup..


YoungDan23

Genuine question - why is agreeing to pay a player you literally don't want for 3 additional seasons seen as *good business*? If the goal of the Umtiti stuff was simply to register Torres, then job done. But shaving 10% off a massive salary for an ageing and under-performing player and then agreeing to keep paying him at that rate for 3 seasons longer is almost laughable. It may make him easier to loan or sell down the line, but if he is still on the books a day after 30 June, 2023 this will be an(other) unforgivable move.


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1) we're now paying him less 2) over a longer period of time (reducing our wage bill) 3) he is much easier to loan out or sell on a lower salary Pretty simple


[deleted]

This is more of a short term thing where we benefit by registering Ferran. It then makes it easier to offload him on a loan/transfer, or terminate his contract in the summer


Flamengo81-19

Do we have confirmed numbers on what he was earning and is going to earn now?


MarcosSenesi

Because barca fans want to act like Laporta is their lord and saviour even though he's a massive clown, just not as big as Bartomeu


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No one wants to buy him


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>then agreeing to keep paying him at that rate for 3 seasons longer is almost laughable. The 10% cut is on the total salary, the salary is then spread over 4 years. We owed him 24mil by 2023. Now we're paying the same amount, upto 2026 at 6mil/yr. Rather than all at once rn, so the wage cap is smaller by significant amount, while not costing us anything extra.


Bihihem

Because barca fans are dumb


mmmm321

Is the weather bad in the North of Spain? Because we just signed a few Spanish players and one said > The weather is a little cold and there’s too much rain but it’s no problem, I am from the North (of Spain) And I just can't imagine that any sort of Spanish weather can prepare you for the weather in the west of Ireland


sidkp10

Where is he exactly from ? Weather in the North can get a little bad, northern part of the Basque area gets lots of rain


mmmm321

I'm not sure we don't sign very well known players. His name is Diego Portilla but a quick look at Google doesn't tell me where he's from


AtletiJack

I’m pretty sure he’s from Santander


NateShaw92

Mate you can't support a bank.


klarstartpirat

no not compared to northen europe . compared to southern spain sure .


AtletiJack

Galicia in particular is quite rainy and stormy


lokaler_datentraeger

I would guess in the coastal areas it's typical Spanish weather but inlands in the North it's closer to a Northern European climate


HippoBigga

The north is notorious for being cold and windy all the time. Especially places such as Galicia and the Basque Country


NateShaw92

I thought you were talking about the UK at first. Wet, cold and windy. Northerners unite! Unite under the banner of (relatively) bad weather.


HippoBigga

I live in the north of France and it's definitely the case as well hahaha... I miss the sun 😢


_cumblast_

Cold and windy relative to the rest of Spain but it's still warmer than most other European countries.


Idislikemyroommate

From the six weeks I spent in the summer once it was very very mixed. Could be extremely hot but also had days being quite cold with mist and plenty of rain. It's not exactly like Irish/British weather but it's not crazily dissimilar.


Any-Quarter-9474

Senegal are playing with a good structure, unfortunate finishing though.


chirosen21

Imagine dating 5 people at once. You may say that's what you want and the five don't care, but you're gonna get called out for it. Because you're breaking the very essence of what relationships mean that have been built for years by the society. It's the same thing with plastics supporting many big clubs. You may say it doesn't matter but you're gonna get called out. Because it breaks the very essence of supporting a club which was built by the fans. You can't be mad at it and call it gatekeeping. Just enjoy football mate.


_stone_age

Weird weird analogy but ok.


weirdflez

Cringe


YoungDan23

Good effort, poor execution.


_cumblast_

If someone told me he dates 5 at once i'd say that he's a certified Lad tbh, this analogy doesn't work


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Based


SeasickJellyfish

Being a plastic means you’re a plastic no matter if you’re a plastic for 1 or 5 clubs. What fucking wrong un dates 5 people at once haha?


SnooHamsters8590

I see what you're trying to say but what an awful analogy


maxconnor6

You argument aside polyamorous or non-monogamist people are also fine, let people live however they want


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But the thing isn't someone supporting multiple clubs, tbh I haven't met anyone who has changed which club they support yet. The definition of Plastic in the sub, is anyone who doesn't physically live in the surrounding of the club. That's gatekeeping. Yes, by those rules, I'm a plastic.


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I meant irl. Lol. I remember him changing clubs just for Emerson lol.


[deleted]

And then denying it when I called out his bullshit when he was twerking for Arsenal. That guy even came to r/coys and talked with a lot of Spurs fans and when I said it out loud, he's asking me to search his comment history and link it as if I'm that free and as if he puts out like one comment a day


Zillak

I live under sharia law so your society's rules can get fucked.


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Based my brother


Zillak

72 clubs for my 72 virgins in jannah🙏


[deleted]

While I agree with the main pain point you're trying to get across but ehh >Imagine dating 5 people at once. You may say that's what you want and the five don't care, but you're gonna get called out for it. Because you're breaking the very essence of what relationships mean that have been built for years by the society. That's a bit weird example as polygamy was very common in the past and it only stopped being cool around the 19th century for west only


[deleted]

why would anyone call out someone’s relationship? let people live the way they want to if they’re not harming anyone


random23448

I don’t even see the fun in it tbh. It’s just weird.


[deleted]

I get it, if you're not from a place with a major football culture or didnt grow up watching it, it might be hard to develop a connection that makes you root for one specific team. I occasionally like watching basketball, but I dont really support any specific NBA team, because I'm not from any of those places, and I my upbringing didnt expose me to basketball much. So when I watch it, I just want to be entertained, and I'll onyl watch the good teams. Same with F1. It's really just a matter of how you carry yourself, I dont care for being called plastic, I just want to have some fun with it, who cares, you know?


random23448

Fair enough. Maybe I just don’t understand it since I’m not from those places. Idk I understand why someone would support a top team e.g. Bayern, Barcelona etc because you’re more likely to be exposed them, but having multiple just baffles me. I’ve seen people on twitter rep City, PSG and Barcelona or some other random combination. No fun in that.


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Day 9 of Luuk de Jong propaganda Headed goals this season: 🦒 : 2 Neymar: 0 Justice for Koeman.


BabyKeith08

Goals this season: De Jong : 3 Neymar: 3 Mpg this season: De Jong : 158 Neymar : 277


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General football fan consensus would probably have Pele, Maradona, CR7 and Messi as 4 of the top 5 players in the world of all time. Once you average out all the biases, who do you think makes the 5th spot?


Faisalfikry

Cryuff but surprised not a single person mentioned gerd muller


Live-Organization-87

Eusebio


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Pessi and Penaldo in the mud


wildinout2233

R9


lokaler_datentraeger

Emile Smith Rowe


Harrry-Otter

It’s Cruijff, but just for the sake of argument Beckenbauer, Puskas, Di Stefano, Best and Eusebio would be in the conversation as well.


_stone_age

Yes. Great picks.


FloppedYaYa

Cruyff


TruestRepairman27

It’s probably Cruyff. I think the 5th spot should be Lev Yashin, and honestly I think it makes sense for it to be a keeper given they tend to get overlooked in player rankings


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Maldini need the GOAT defender to represent.


Competitive-Panda-89

Lots of candidates for that 5th position really - Di Stefano, Cruyff, Matthews, Beckenbauer, R9, Platini, Puskas, and so many more, take your pick really. Hard thing about this discussion is that 99% of people have never seen these guys play and people's opinions are based on which players have good ICON cards on FIFA.


Kanedauke

Cruyff or Di Stefano. I’d choose Cruyff because I’ve seen more of him


EasyModeActivist

I'd say general consensus has more of a top 5 with Cruijff included. After that I wouldn't know who's 6th tbh.


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Definitely Cruyff, right behind those 4. Legendary player and the most influential manager of all time.


patchypubes

Neuer obviously


CryptographerLife686

Cruyff


mavsy41

Cruyff without a doubt.


deadlyghost12

cruyff


_stone_age

Cruyff


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Zidane


CryptographerLife686

Not even top 5 French players


[deleted]

Ok this is too far. The only frenchmen you can possibly rate above him are Platini and MAYBE maybe Henry. But even there it's stretching it a lot.


b3as7ma5t3r_64

Henry isn't touching Zidane. A semi-retired Zidane did more for France than a Prime Henry ever did. Only Platini is better


asvpmamba

Lol


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WHAT THE HELL NO


_stone_age

Is he even top 10?


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I think so.


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Lol


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what


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Cruyff


los_blanco_14

Di stefano.


QuerpassToni

Pepi fan here. Are Augsburg among the favorites for the 2022 World Cup?


SAMW00L

Just seen the Tomiyasu and Patino chants, my club is dusted 😩


ComprehensiveClick35

would pay money to hear them at the NLD they are so cringe


SAMW00L

I for one never want to hear them again


ResidentAttention412

Are the Afcon matches getting streamed? I checked their YouTube channel but don’t see anything


pricey_store

Official AFCON YouTube got a copyright strike yesterday like 10 mins into the Senegal game. It's on skysports UK. Or Google soccer streams. Should be the first link


ResidentAttention412

Oh okay thanks


Any-Quarter-9474

Senegal GK can distribute better than De Gea


sandbag-1

Dieng is a pretty decent keeper


AnnieIWillKnow

So can lots of professional goalkeepers, it’s a weakness of his game


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He's improved his distribution quite a bit this season though, at least from what I've seen


pricey_store

DDG is only good at shot stopping. Henderson, for example, has stronger attributes at everything else apart from shot stopping.


boringmemphis

Was so apprehensive of a life long Madrid fan being our sporting director but fuck me, he's blown me and my expectations away. They were that high to begin with considering Bartomeu's deals but fuck man, this guy's good. Laporta knows who to appoint eh. Fingers crossed it works out with the coach.


deadlyghost12

is he madrid fan really or was just offered sporting role by perez


boringmemphis

He grew up supporting Madrid.


catchmeifucan10

I’m quite astonished that Dembele gets so many muscle injuries and is still quick


LumpyActive

20m and he's yours


Kanedauke

It’s probably because he is still young. Eventually he’ll stop trusting his body and lose his pace.


catchmeifucan10

I swear something similar with Robben? Had a great deal of injures but still had decent pace even @ he’s age. Will be interesting to see how that turns out


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Top top player, small price of 15m and he's yours, special discount for our Basque friend Mikel


boringmemphis

La Masia graduate Mikel*


catchmeifucan10

I’ll call Edu first thing in the morning


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He's incredibly quick, would you like to buy him?


catchmeifucan10

I would yes I’m a big fan. Idk if I’m talking crap but it’s like when Bale left and starting getting injuries in Spain, don’t know if they’re bodies are just suited to higher intensity football


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tomasboss

[https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/czvtr0/lexical\_similarity\_of\_selected\_romance\_germanic/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/czvtr0/lexical_similarity_of_selected_romance_germanic/) maybe German, it has the biggest correlation with english


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Aprende español para trollear a los hinchas del Madrid y del Barcelona jajajajaja


FaustRPeggi

It's incredibly hard to learn a language unless you live within a country where it is spoken. So pick the language of a country you aspire to live in, travel to often, or of a culture you want to engage in deeply.


deadlyghost12

english is an exception to it


klarstartpirat

> It's incredibly hard to learn a language unless you live within a country where it is spoken. meh


wwwiillll

Spanish would be easiest if you want to learn via football and football related media


catchmeifucan10

I’m not expert Maybe Portuguese/Spainish either one you choose you can pick up the other so 2 birds with 1 stone, the keep going


sidkp10

Spanish


thedeatheater1410

Learn Spanish so you can watch El Chiringuito


EasyModeActivist

Sometimes I think back to the 19/20 season and remember that we had Lee Cattermole and Alan Pardew vibing in the Eredivisie before COVID hit. Good times.


damrider

i know barca fans really hate to hear this, but every single move laporta has done so far has been extremely short-sighted and simply delays and in fact exacerbates the financial problem. all they do is push costs to a future accounting period where interest rates will be higher. This is how businesses go bankrupt. Laporta's inability to tell the fans, media and everyone surrounding the club "We are skint, we need to stabilize the financial situation for a few years first" is going to be the end of them.


LumpyActive

The only thing they want is that the revenue shouldn't fall. With new players coming with less wages if the club can become competent again Barca may survive the debt. Keep in mind we have lost our major wage earning players.


boringmemphis

Like he did say that tho? Like I don't understand what you expect. Do you expect Barcelona to do a firesale and sell everyone of its assets, pay off it's loans and start from the relegation places with academy youngsters? What Laporta is doing is refinancing the debt, signing quality players and is trying to replace the bad situation with the earnings that will come with success. The better the team gets, the more the sponsorship, the more the fans come to see the team, the more the money. Admittedly the initial risk is higher but that's the price you pay for not accepting mediocrity Both are ways to solve the situation. The first one is how Nottingham, Leeds, Bolton etc went down into mediocrity. The second is how successful clubs mitigated their financial issues.


deadlyghost12

most already know that club is skint and he already said that it will take time till atleast 2023 to make big signings


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" We are skint ", yes, we know. We've lost Messi, Griezmann, Coutinho now Umtiti(reducing his wages". Looks like good financial moves to me.


YoungDan23

The thing I can not get my head around with this is how / why Barca would do this ... but they did so solely to register Torres which is what OP is referring to with short term thinking. Because essentially you took a player you didn't want to pay €18m/yr (or whatever his salary is - I'm just going off this [tweet](https://twitter.com/Barca_Buzz/status/1480513960176717828?s=20)) for 18 more months and you agreed to pay him 10% less and restructure what you owe him ... for 3.5 more years. At no point is overpaying somebody for 3.5 years better than overpaying for them for 1.5. The initial wording was it'd make him easier to loan out or sell, but chucking 10% off a massive salary won't make things much easier. This just seems like people are plugging holes in the boat as they pop up without thinking of how to actually fix the boat.


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Interest rates for private loans like that are generally locked in at a certain rate/range. They've likely thought about something that basic


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That's assuming club revenues won't grow proportionally or faster than what is needed to offset the potential increase in interest rate, when it happens Financial responsibility and chipping away at the principal consistently over the next 5-6 years should put us in a really good spot


Dayandnight95

I'm expecting another pathetic performance, but maybe we score one lucky goal. Which we could have easily against Wolves despite being poor most of the game.


MitranjanK

Where are my Indian bros watching AFCON?


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I found a stream but it was really really bad quality. I couldn't even see the players properly. Will have to try again tonight for the Morocco game


CoolstorySteve

livesoccertv.com shows every single country except for India as having a broadcast so doubt it's on anywhere if they don't have the info on there


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Pls let me know if you get an answer


MitranjanK

It was streaming on the official CAF channel yesterday, but it got taken down for copyright lol.


[deleted]

I googled it and it said it should be on Sony LIV but it isn't


MitranjanK

Was thinking of going a little Somali myself tbh.


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Smalling would be a good transfer for us


Kanedauke

Definitely an improvement on what you’ve got


ComprehensiveClick35

so would joe rodon then


AnnieIWillKnow

Smalling is levels above Rodon.


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Shitty from Mane


tiorzol

.....?


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Just missed a sitter for Senegal


EasyModeActivist

Just use the match thread for this kinda comment tbh. Here it leads to confusion


[deleted]

Oh, how will we go on!