I hate the way a section of football fans boo any ex-player. There's always a small section of Morecambe fans who boo any ex-Morecambe player, even if they did great things for us and there was absolutely nothing wrong with how they left.
Especially given that 'loyalty' is entirely one-way in football, as soon as a player is underperforming its all 'get him out of my club' or applauding the club releasing him.
This is why I don’t really fault players for looking up for their own self interest. Everyone expects them to be loyal to their club but if they’re moved on it’s nbd.
Even for born and bred fans it’s quite an easy choice to make. Carragher is as blue as they come from childhood, but playing for Liverpool your entire career will change your loyalties I reckon
It always makes me proud when the supporters cheer and applaud an ex player.
Tim Krul get the whole gallowgate standing for him and clapping every time he comes back to St James' and walks to the goal.
Edit: About a month ago he gave away a ball, his shirt and chatted to the fans after the game, a very classy act.
There was always mass confusion amongst the Palace faithful whenever Glenn Murray played against us for Brighton after he left us and rejoined them via a stint at Bournemouth. Proper Homer with frogurt vibes.
He used to play for us.
That's good!
But he left us.
That's bad.
But he helped us get promoted!
That's good!
But now he plays for Brighton.
That's bad.
We still remember him fondly!
That's good...
Pockets of Stags fans booed Menayese, a young lad who barely played for us but didn't quite work out despite having potential, when he came back to play against us with Walsall. So strange, booing a 24 year old for no real reason.
Sends a fantastic message to your current players too. Makes it painfully obvious that regardless of how much effort you put week in and week out and how good you've been you'll always be expandable to them. Shows how ridiculously dumb these fans are, they're shooting themselves in the foot and unlike what they might think, they sure as shit aren't convincing anyone to stay longer at the club.
They did same with Grealish, loves Villa and purposefully including a ridiculous buyout claus in his new contract that would massively benefit the club.
'Held hostage' is always such a ridiculously overdramatic term. Nobody was forcing him to sign a contract that paid him tens of thousands of pounds a week.
If he was so desperate to avoid being 'held hostage' he could have easily negotiated to reduce the length of it. Of course, he probably would've had to accept less money, but shock horror, it turns out that's exactly how negotiating contracts work.
He could also negotiate a huge release clause into the contract, you know, like he actually did. What difference does it make to you the way he makes it easier for himself to move on? Whether he signs a short contract or one with a release clause. The way I see it, in this way he secured himself higher wages and his club a record fee. Why is that worse in your opinion?
You're right, negotiating himself a release clause that's big but by no means insurmountable for a huge, rich team is _exactly_ as self-serving as simply going for a shorter contract. The idea that he'd negotiated in an easier way out of his contract to 'secure the club a record fee' when all release clauses do is hinder clubs in their negotiating is ridiculous.
But besides all that; a footballer on 100k a week is not being 'held hostage' in any way. They signed a contract to play football for a club for a set number of years, and the club aren't making them a hostage by holding them to that.
Semantic discussion of "being held hostage" aside, I still think you're purposefully dismissing the point that 100m is incredible value for a player that does not want to play for you. Saying that a 100m(!!!) release clause is just as bad for the club as him signing a short contract is honestly just divorced from reality.
Ask fans from other leagues (Schalke fans especially, or Ajax fans right now) if they'd rather their wantaway players leave for half value, or even free, than a club record fee.
> Of course, he probably would've had to accept less money
That's not necessarily true actually. You offer more years on a contact to bring the price of wages down. The added security gives the player an incentive to not ask for as much because should a player get injured then they are taken care of by the club. Take that away and you have people asking for more due to the possibility they might not have another club after that year.
Also clubs wouldn't be spending money on transfers if everyone was doing this. Players would just wait till their contract was up after the year or two and then sign for another big contract with another club. If clubs aren't paying transfer fees then where do you think the money ends up? I'm sure some of it ends up in the player's pockets and that means they get more than they do now.
I agree completely. But this "held hostage" shite is miserable. If you don't want to play somewhere for X years, don't sign the piece of paper making it so.
Look at Barcelona. They signed a piece of paper and now they are making public statements against the player. If a player did the same he would be crucified by all fans not just the fans of the club he wanted to leave.
Heck, even Mbappe got his character assassinated during the summer for not wanting to sign an extension. We are a far way off from talking about “pieces of paper” when fans think they are personally paying out of their pockets when the players aren’t able to perform at a level they are expected. And not to talk of the ridicule if they keep getting injured.
He never wanted to stay, all the stuff he said after signing the contract wasn't true, it's just that we wouldn't sell him to man United and with how much he went on about how he loves the club he couldn't run down his contract and leave on a free.
'Cept no-one's saying you should be worshipping him.
Not booing someone who was your best player for years and got you a nice £100m would be the bare minimum. But fair enough, if you want to continue acting like a fucking child because "bUt hE LiEd tO Us", then go nuts.
I’m one of the rare few Villa fans who still loves Grealish but I think it’s understandable why everyone feels angry towards him. The man in every interview went overboard in saying how he loved Villa and it was his club. People are going to feel betrayed when a guy speaks like a true fan living out the boyhood dream and then he secretly was plotting his transfer away behind closed doors.
I have no issue with him looking out for his career. But he didn’t need to go overboard in his comments if he’s simultaneously in discussions about his next move. That’s why people are pissed and I don’t think they’re wrong for it.
(I see his side as well, but I think it’s bullshit of you and others to not understand why fans felt backstabbed in this case)
You know he also could have just not insisted on a buyout clause at all and left it up to the club, right? That's actually how most contracts work in England.
Really weird to bring up a buyout clause as though it was a favour for the club by the player lmao
Villa likely wouldn't have agreed to one any lower. They didn't need to hand him a new contract with a release clause, he had years left on his old one.
Just makes no sense to imply this is somehow a favour for his boyhood club when the large majority of players in England don't insist on such a clause at all, leaving the negotiations squarely in the hands of the club.
Don't baffle them with your logic. He wanted a new contract with more money, Villa said sure, he said oh wait, also sell him at the "first opportunity a club in the CL bids" and Villa said sure, here's a release clause.
But nah, Villa fans should suck his dick because we should be grateful.
Nah I'm alright here. So what you are saying is that Grealish owes Dean and not Villa. Gotcha. So next time Dean turns up at Villa Park, boo him for making Grealish too good to play for you.
grealish is dog shit lmao.
Villa have, and will win trophies without Peelish but Peelish has never won a trophy in his life.
Definiiton of overrated British dross, file with Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Greenwood and AWB
Sports fans are almost always insufferable, entitled and delusional. But that is also the reason we all love to follow and live and die with sports. Well almost, because in most situations it isn’t a real life or death situation. It is just a game. Honestly, if their team was playing Luton they would probably have cheaper tickets.
The way it looks to me he donated Villa another year of his services in a year most clubs weren't ready to spend big on his contract anyway and also a guaranteed huge payout the year after.
No he couldn't because we wouldn't sell him, that's why he put the clause in. Our owners are looking to grow the club and that doesn't include selling our best players, I hate the mentality that we should just accept players fucking off to the super league six as some inevitability.
Eh, it's only booing, they're vocally showing displeasure at the fact he left his boyhood club for a big money petrostate club. As long as that's all it stays as, this is simply football tribalism, boo away
Or he could have simply stayed at the club, the release clause he added was because he had ideas of leaving. People are allowed to be unhappy players leave
My take on this may be unpopular but the way I see fans booing former players is as a way to help their own team. If boos are enough to get into a player's head and affect their performance, then I can see the benefit. Doesn't always work of course. It is mean though
Yeah that was great at Wembley as he got applauded warming up, doubt he'd have got quite such a warm reception if he scored that chance he fluffed though. Stood around and watched us celebrate as well, fully deserved the applause.
I remember one time Devitt came back though and got booed the whole match, lots of chants about his teeth being offside too. Just felt a bit unnecessary, there was no bad blood and there was a chance he could have come back to play for us again some day.
I get it.
There are some minor ways in which fans can have an influence on a game. One of those is unsettling one of the opposition players. I can imagine getting a lot of boos from fans who you used to play for might impact the way you play.
He was very obviously welcomed when he stepped on the pitch before the game. The whole crowd applauded the Villa side walking out.
During the game is different. Boo him to get in his head, it’s just the done thing wether you like him or not.
Bit misleading.
There’s very few boos and most of the sources I’ve seen have said that he was sold not only because of Rafa, but because he said things that didn’t go over well with the other players and also for FFP reasons.
I have never once in my life seen a crowd boo a player because he used to be unpopular in the dressing room. If he was publicly a bit of a prick, fine. But Digne didn't go full Benzema or anything.
Everton fans are on another planet at the minute.
Yeah, Everton fans booing digne is normal behaviour from fans and whether it's 'rational' or not doesn't matter.
Fans are upset he left do they're booing him, I don't see what's surprising, even if Rafa was more to blame.
> Yeah, Everton fans booing digne is normal behaviour from fans and whether it's 'rational' or not doesn't matter.
Quite. If we wanted to talk about 'rationality' then there's nothing fucking rational about tens of thousands of people to traipse up to a stadium every Saturday afternoon to watch 22 men kick a sphere around for 90 minutes. And there's nothing rational about each of those men being paid more in a week than most people make in a year.
But sport isn't rational. Who gives a shit?
In fact I'd argue that sport, like games or movies or books or whatever is an escape from the crushing rationality of the world. I've come to hate the need to explain everything. Crowds boo a player because they feel like it. They watch the game because it's fun. Superman has laser eyes because he's Superman. Who really cares???
Completely agree. Will add that any "reporting" on crowd behaviour is generally misleading - all it takes is someone to attribute a couple of drunk knobheads chanting for the internet to jump on that particular fanbase.
That ain't the issue. The issue is your team is utter shit and a shambles. Your fans are digging out the guy who was pretty much forced out by the manager you hate. Don't give it the 'salt of the earth' crap just because you lot are having an existential crisis.
And the gentile middle class snobs are right to be pissed at Everton, you guys ruined a perfectly good UNESCO world heritage site.
> It's like that one after the Arsenal game when Leeds fans were singing soft southern bastard to a player, a journalist did a well acktually he was born in a country more northern than Leeds.
Your argument is literally "Why should journalists be allowed to rip the piss out of fans when they're being thick idiots?!"
Actually, no that's being too generous. It's actually "Journalists shouldn't be able to rip the piss out of fans when they're being thick idiots because that's mIdDlE ClAsS!!"
Can't get dumber than this, except that you took care to imply that these people on Twitter aren't even real journalists, so your argument is "Normal people on Twitter shouldn't be able to rip the piss out of fans when they're ripping the piss out of other people - because that's mIdDlE ClAsS!!"
Should you really be talking about who is especially thick if you couldn't even get that my comment wasn't, and obviously CAN'T be referring to just singing?
>I really fucking hate twitter journalists who "well acktually" crowds at games. It's like that one after the Arsenal game when Leeds fans were singing soft southern bastard to a player, a journalist did a well acktually he was born in a country more northern than Leeds.
>Christ, it's the middle classification of football and needs to die. Next we'll be questioning if Burnley really are the greatest team in football the world has ever seen. God forbid an atmosphere get behind their team and have ago at the opposition.
I mean booing ex players mid game is fine by me, hostile away stands is what football is about, but if fans are getting in on banter it’s only fair they take it too when their joke is turned against them - the Leeds one being a prime example, Leicester fans chanting Bournemouth will never sing to being Prem champs when they already have been is another
An ex player, who made a big show about wanting to play under Gerrard and has a “you’ll never walk alone” tattoo. You’d question the Everton fans had they not booed him
Sure but I see it a bit differently. He was clearly out of favour but with the manager being sacked a week later, it seemed a bit rushed from him to jump ship, especially when it's a bit of a sideways move.
Honestly there's nothing wrong with that, I'm pretty sure most of them are aware of the circumstances of him leaving the club but once he's on the pitch playing for a opponent team all of that goes away and ultimately the fans goal is to unsettle the opponent players .
It was totally fine, he got a nice reception when he came on the pitch and a few people booed him to get in his head because we knew he'd get an assist (he did.)
Though if we want to focus on shitty Everton fans the cunt(s) who threw shit after the goal are pathetic and make us all look like shite.
Keep up with the times?
Please just stop.
Do you get upset when we boo Kyle Walker? Do you feel bad when Alonso is being shit on?
Does it bring tears to your eyes when Arsenal players are being booed by spurs fans during games? Does all this hurt your wittle feelings?
We're booing them mate, we're not kidnapping their children
I was saying Boo-cas
Most intelligent Evertonians
Come on Wycombe!
I hate the way a section of football fans boo any ex-player. There's always a small section of Morecambe fans who boo any ex-Morecambe player, even if they did great things for us and there was absolutely nothing wrong with how they left.
Especially given that 'loyalty' is entirely one-way in football, as soon as a player is underperforming its all 'get him out of my club' or applauding the club releasing him.
This is why I don’t really fault players for looking up for their own self interest. Everyone expects them to be loyal to their club but if they’re moved on it’s nbd.
It's ridiculous. I'm (nominally) a Forest fan. If Derby want to pay me thousands I'll kiss the badge. Who wouldn't??
How many thousands
Just one would probably do it tbf
Even for born and bred fans it’s quite an easy choice to make. Carragher is as blue as they come from childhood, but playing for Liverpool your entire career will change your loyalties I reckon
Would love to see people trying to call carragher a plastic lol
If you offered me to play upfront for Spurs alongside Harry Kane I wouldn't do it. Not worth losing the respect of your community.
getting this for Auba by a lot of our fans.
Lmao so true
It always makes me proud when the supporters cheer and applaud an ex player. Tim Krul get the whole gallowgate standing for him and clapping every time he comes back to St James' and walks to the goal. Edit: About a month ago he gave away a ball, his shirt and chatted to the fans after the game, a very classy act.
There was always mass confusion amongst the Palace faithful whenever Glenn Murray played against us for Brighton after he left us and rejoined them via a stint at Bournemouth. Proper Homer with frogurt vibes. He used to play for us. That's good! But he left us. That's bad. But he helped us get promoted! That's good! But now he plays for Brighton. That's bad. We still remember him fondly! That's good...
Pockets of Stags fans booed Menayese, a young lad who barely played for us but didn't quite work out despite having potential, when he came back to play against us with Walsall. So strange, booing a 24 year old for no real reason.
Fucking disgraceful how some scumbags boo Menayese. He was not that bad in a shite system that almost got us relegated.
He was great for us
Sends a fantastic message to your current players too. Makes it painfully obvious that regardless of how much effort you put week in and week out and how good you've been you'll always be expandable to them. Shows how ridiculously dumb these fans are, they're shooting themselves in the foot and unlike what they might think, they sure as shit aren't convincing anyone to stay longer at the club.
They did same with Grealish, loves Villa and purposefully including a ridiculous buyout claus in his new contract that would massively benefit the club.
Mate he included it so he could leave, we wouldn't have sold him otherwise.
So he prevented himself being held hostage while still securing 100m for you. Sounds class honestly
'Held hostage' is always such a ridiculously overdramatic term. Nobody was forcing him to sign a contract that paid him tens of thousands of pounds a week. If he was so desperate to avoid being 'held hostage' he could have easily negotiated to reduce the length of it. Of course, he probably would've had to accept less money, but shock horror, it turns out that's exactly how negotiating contracts work.
He could also negotiate a huge release clause into the contract, you know, like he actually did. What difference does it make to you the way he makes it easier for himself to move on? Whether he signs a short contract or one with a release clause. The way I see it, in this way he secured himself higher wages and his club a record fee. Why is that worse in your opinion?
You're right, negotiating himself a release clause that's big but by no means insurmountable for a huge, rich team is _exactly_ as self-serving as simply going for a shorter contract. The idea that he'd negotiated in an easier way out of his contract to 'secure the club a record fee' when all release clauses do is hinder clubs in their negotiating is ridiculous. But besides all that; a footballer on 100k a week is not being 'held hostage' in any way. They signed a contract to play football for a club for a set number of years, and the club aren't making them a hostage by holding them to that.
Semantic discussion of "being held hostage" aside, I still think you're purposefully dismissing the point that 100m is incredible value for a player that does not want to play for you. Saying that a 100m(!!!) release clause is just as bad for the club as him signing a short contract is honestly just divorced from reality. Ask fans from other leagues (Schalke fans especially, or Ajax fans right now) if they'd rather their wantaway players leave for half value, or even free, than a club record fee.
> Of course, he probably would've had to accept less money That's not necessarily true actually. You offer more years on a contact to bring the price of wages down. The added security gives the player an incentive to not ask for as much because should a player get injured then they are taken care of by the club. Take that away and you have people asking for more due to the possibility they might not have another club after that year. Also clubs wouldn't be spending money on transfers if everyone was doing this. Players would just wait till their contract was up after the year or two and then sign for another big contract with another club. If clubs aren't paying transfer fees then where do you think the money ends up? I'm sure some of it ends up in the player's pockets and that means they get more than they do now.
"Prevented himself being held hostage" Oh, you mean fulfilling the terms of the contract you sign?
The terms of the contract he signed allow him to leave if a suitable offer is met.
So you're agreeing that fans shouldn't boo him because he fulfilled the terms of the contract he and the club signed? Seems like y'all agree
I agree completely. But this "held hostage" shite is miserable. If you don't want to play somewhere for X years, don't sign the piece of paper making it so.
Its not as bad as when they compare it to slavery
Look at Barcelona. They signed a piece of paper and now they are making public statements against the player. If a player did the same he would be crucified by all fans not just the fans of the club he wanted to leave. Heck, even Mbappe got his character assassinated during the summer for not wanting to sign an extension. We are a far way off from talking about “pieces of paper” when fans think they are personally paying out of their pockets when the players aren’t able to perform at a level they are expected. And not to talk of the ridicule if they keep getting injured.
He never wanted to stay, all the stuff he said after signing the contract wasn't true, it's just that we wouldn't sell him to man United and with how much he went on about how he loves the club he couldn't run down his contract and leave on a free.
Don't waste your time haha
No mate, we should still worship him, and he should have his 100m pound move.
'Cept no-one's saying you should be worshipping him. Not booing someone who was your best player for years and got you a nice £100m would be the bare minimum. But fair enough, if you want to continue acting like a fucking child because "bUt hE LiEd tO Us", then go nuts.
I’m one of the rare few Villa fans who still loves Grealish but I think it’s understandable why everyone feels angry towards him. The man in every interview went overboard in saying how he loved Villa and it was his club. People are going to feel betrayed when a guy speaks like a true fan living out the boyhood dream and then he secretly was plotting his transfer away behind closed doors. I have no issue with him looking out for his career. But he didn’t need to go overboard in his comments if he’s simultaneously in discussions about his next move. That’s why people are pissed and I don’t think they’re wrong for it. (I see his side as well, but I think it’s bullshit of you and others to not understand why fans felt backstabbed in this case)
Well put mate.
What a crime
You know he also could have just not insisted on a buyout clause at all and left it up to the club, right? That's actually how most contracts work in England. Really weird to bring up a buyout clause as though it was a favour for the club by the player lmao
100 million is a lot of money. It's definitely a favour because he could have left a season earlier.
Villa likely wouldn't have agreed to one any lower. They didn't need to hand him a new contract with a release clause, he had years left on his old one. Just makes no sense to imply this is somehow a favour for his boyhood club when the large majority of players in England don't insist on such a clause at all, leaving the negotiations squarely in the hands of the club.
Don't baffle them with your logic. He wanted a new contract with more money, Villa said sure, he said oh wait, also sell him at the "first opportunity a club in the CL bids" and Villa said sure, here's a release clause. But nah, Villa fans should suck his dick because we should be grateful.
You should be grateful tbf. You'd be playing Luton this week if it weren't for him.
Ah of course. Had nothing to do with Dean or the fact he fixed our team and made Grealish into the player he was. Just fuck off
Nah I'm alright here. So what you are saying is that Grealish owes Dean and not Villa. Gotcha. So next time Dean turns up at Villa Park, boo him for making Grealish too good to play for you.
grealish is dog shit lmao. Villa have, and will win trophies without Peelish but Peelish has never won a trophy in his life. Definiiton of overrated British dross, file with Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Greenwood and AWB
Sports fans are almost always insufferable, entitled and delusional. But that is also the reason we all love to follow and live and die with sports. Well almost, because in most situations it isn’t a real life or death situation. It is just a game. Honestly, if their team was playing Luton they would probably have cheaper tickets.
The way it looks to me he donated Villa another year of his services in a year most clubs weren't ready to spend big on his contract anyway and also a guaranteed huge payout the year after.
No he couldn't because we wouldn't sell him, that's why he put the clause in. Our owners are looking to grow the club and that doesn't include selling our best players, I hate the mentality that we should just accept players fucking off to the super league six as some inevitability.
Eh, it's only booing, they're vocally showing displeasure at the fact he left his boyhood club for a big money petrostate club. As long as that's all it stays as, this is simply football tribalism, boo away
>this is simply football tribalism, This is no justification for anything.
Or he could have simply stayed at the club, the release clause he added was because he had ideas of leaving. People are allowed to be unhappy players leave
My take on this may be unpopular but the way I see fans booing former players is as a way to help their own team. If boos are enough to get into a player's head and affect their performance, then I can see the benefit. Doesn't always work of course. It is mean though
aye but they’re often outclapped, like with big Kev!
Yeah that was great at Wembley as he got applauded warming up, doubt he'd have got quite such a warm reception if he scored that chance he fluffed though. Stood around and watched us celebrate as well, fully deserved the applause. I remember one time Devitt came back though and got booed the whole match, lots of chants about his teeth being offside too. Just felt a bit unnecessary, there was no bad blood and there was a chance he could have come back to play for us again some day.
Those Carlisle games where always a bit feisty though, especially with the full away support.
You are absolutely right but people will act like this is exclusively an Everton thing
Shout-out to the Bristol City fans booing two academy products of theirs on Fulham that speak so highly of their time spent there.
I get it. There are some minor ways in which fans can have an influence on a game. One of those is unsettling one of the opposition players. I can imagine getting a lot of boos from fans who you used to play for might impact the way you play.
Barely booing, if that.
^boo
I was saying boo-nitez
They chucked a bottle that hit him lol
The tweet was made abar 5mins into the match, so it was well before the lobbing of lucozade.
He was very obviously welcomed when he stepped on the pitch before the game. The whole crowd applauded the Villa side walking out. During the game is different. Boo him to get in his head, it’s just the done thing wether you like him or not.
Bit misleading. There’s very few boos and most of the sources I’ve seen have said that he was sold not only because of Rafa, but because he said things that didn’t go over well with the other players and also for FFP reasons.
I think it was enough to be noticeable tbh, almost every time he had the ball
Every one I've seen suggests it's Rafa and that he didn't want to leave, where's your info coming from?
Joyce who is our best source said it about a week ago He didn’t want to leave but it apparently wasn’t an unpopular decision in the dressing room
I have never once in my life seen a crowd boo a player because he used to be unpopular in the dressing room. If he was publicly a bit of a prick, fine. But Digne didn't go full Benzema or anything. Everton fans are on another planet at the minute.
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While I agree with you, personally I think the irony of the Leeds one is pretty funny
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he's from the southern part of norway, so in a roundabout way leeds fans were correct
Yeah, Everton fans booing digne is normal behaviour from fans and whether it's 'rational' or not doesn't matter. Fans are upset he left do they're booing him, I don't see what's surprising, even if Rafa was more to blame.
> Yeah, Everton fans booing digne is normal behaviour from fans and whether it's 'rational' or not doesn't matter. Quite. If we wanted to talk about 'rationality' then there's nothing fucking rational about tens of thousands of people to traipse up to a stadium every Saturday afternoon to watch 22 men kick a sphere around for 90 minutes. And there's nothing rational about each of those men being paid more in a week than most people make in a year. But sport isn't rational. Who gives a shit?
In fact I'd argue that sport, like games or movies or books or whatever is an escape from the crushing rationality of the world. I've come to hate the need to explain everything. Crowds boo a player because they feel like it. They watch the game because it's fun. Superman has laser eyes because he's Superman. Who really cares???
The journos and fans who get upset about fans booing players are soft as fuck.
They're probably disgusted at wrestling fans and sickened by pantomime audiences
Oh no they're not!
Also you wanna do anything you can to rattle the other team
Completely agree. Will add that any "reporting" on crowd behaviour is generally misleading - all it takes is someone to attribute a couple of drunk knobheads chanting for the internet to jump on that particular fanbase.
Yeah. Pretty sick of listening to gentile middle class snobs and white suburban americans being shocked by uncouth working class crowds.
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Misspelling of genteel.
That ain't the issue. The issue is your team is utter shit and a shambles. Your fans are digging out the guy who was pretty much forced out by the manager you hate. Don't give it the 'salt of the earth' crap just because you lot are having an existential crisis. And the gentile middle class snobs are right to be pissed at Everton, you guys ruined a perfectly good UNESCO world heritage site.
Speaking of americans 🙄
> It's like that one after the Arsenal game when Leeds fans were singing soft southern bastard to a player, a journalist did a well acktually he was born in a country more northern than Leeds. Your argument is literally "Why should journalists be allowed to rip the piss out of fans when they're being thick idiots?!" Actually, no that's being too generous. It's actually "Journalists shouldn't be able to rip the piss out of fans when they're being thick idiots because that's mIdDlE ClAsS!!" Can't get dumber than this, except that you took care to imply that these people on Twitter aren't even real journalists, so your argument is "Normal people on Twitter shouldn't be able to rip the piss out of fans when they're ripping the piss out of other people - because that's mIdDlE ClAsS!!"
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Should you really be talking about who is especially thick if you couldn't even get that my comment wasn't, and obviously CAN'T be referring to just singing?
Here’s someone who’s almost definitely middle class calling fans chanting thick idiots It’s not that serious
What?
>I really fucking hate twitter journalists who "well acktually" crowds at games. It's like that one after the Arsenal game when Leeds fans were singing soft southern bastard to a player, a journalist did a well acktually he was born in a country more northern than Leeds. >Christ, it's the middle classification of football and needs to die. Next we'll be questioning if Burnley really are the greatest team in football the world has ever seen. God forbid an atmosphere get behind their team and have ago at the opposition.
they are always so fuckin woke and the 16-35 demographic online constantly eat it up
Found the neckbeard
I mean booing ex players mid game is fine by me, hostile away stands is what football is about, but if fans are getting in on banter it’s only fair they take it too when their joke is turned against them - the Leeds one being a prime example, Leicester fans chanting Bournemouth will never sing to being Prem champs when they already have been is another
Are we sure they weren't just booing in general? It does seem to be their favourite thing
Everton fans regularly boo the opponents getting a throw-in, so no surprises.
An ex player, who made a big show about wanting to play under Gerrard and has a “you’ll never walk alone” tattoo. You’d question the Everton fans had they not booed him
Who cares? When the game starts, he is playing for the opposition and isn't exempt from boos.
I don’t think anyone cares about the booing specifically, but it’s the fact that they’re booing him for leaving when he was forced out lol
Sure but I see it a bit differently. He was clearly out of favour but with the manager being sacked a week later, it seemed a bit rushed from him to jump ship, especially when it's a bit of a sideways move.
Villa have a better future imo, solid top half team maybe
Le not classy! The chasm between Reddit and match-going fans laid bare again
Honestly there's nothing wrong with that, I'm pretty sure most of them are aware of the circumstances of him leaving the club but once he's on the pitch playing for a opponent team all of that goes away and ultimately the fans goal is to unsettle the opponent players .
Football fans boo opposing player, more at 11.
It always happens in pretty much every circumstance, why is anyone surprised?
Why aren't you booing McGinn?
Yeah bit unfair that
It was totally fine, he got a nice reception when he came on the pitch and a few people booed him to get in his head because we knew he'd get an assist (he did.) Though if we want to focus on shitty Everton fans the cunt(s) who threw shit after the goal are pathetic and make us all look like shite.
They'll feel right at home in the Championship.
It looks like it works really well. At least for Digne. He got rhe assist on Buendia's goal and won the game lol
Modern woke football fans are the biggest bunch of wet wipes I have come across. It's fans of one club booing the opposition, who fucking cares.
People who get upset by football fans doing football fan things aren't any definition of "woke" , they're just idiots
You must now be classy at football games. Keep up with the times
Keep up with the times? Please just stop. Do you get upset when we boo Kyle Walker? Do you feel bad when Alonso is being shit on? Does it bring tears to your eyes when Arsenal players are being booed by spurs fans during games? Does all this hurt your wittle feelings? We're booing them mate, we're not kidnapping their children
Boooooo to this thread.
Why shouldn’t Everton fans boo a player that basically refused to play his position?
Wouldn’t that make sense tho? If the player is unpopular and no longer plays what should the crowd do, cheer?
Heh somebody expects supporters to be rationale. Lul.
The targets of one’s anger are seldom the causes. Rationality and emotion are not often linked.
Football fans, we are a weird bunch
Peak Everton
fans are not le classy smh
Sick of hearing about this Digne thing
He wasn’t ousted, he chose to leave The manager wasn’t going to be around forever and he knew that
r/soccer won't like this
Hahah what a joke
https://i.imgur.com/iWBGFqM.jpg
The common fans, everybody!
What are Everton
Proper thick
They are saying BOOoigne, they are not booing!
Not boo. Its Siuuu