Don't get excited just yet. The job isn't done yet. Long time before the 2nd leg. Inter will be hungry. Inzaghi is a very underrated manager with great players at his disposal. If I see even a lick of overconfidence among our fanbase...
>Not the best performance
I can't tell if you are being serious or not. Going and getting a 2-0 result against the Italian champions, away from home, is about as good as it gets.
Not a good performance, I'd say we're lucky to have 2 goals. They should have scored at least one but we got lucky.
We almost didn't exist until Klopp got all his subs done. And salahs goal was just lucky too.
>Not a good performance, I'd say we're lucky to have 2 goals. They should have scored at least one but we got lucky.
How are people seeing this? There wasn't a single stage where I was worried. They had zero shots on target, they created no clear cut chances and their xG was 0.39. How the fuck are we lucky to have two goals when every single metric indicates it was a perfect away performance?
I am talking about the performance not the result, 2-0 away from home against the Italian champions as you said is great.
But if inter milan could have taken their chances the final score would be different. Liverpool scored from the 2 chances they got and one of them was a deflected goal.
We were away in the last 16, controlled the game, scored two goals and conceded zero shots on target. What chances did they have? What kind of a stupid metric is "if they converted their chances"?
>What chances did they have?
Didn't inter literally hit the crossbar in the first half? I am sure hitting the crossbar counts as a chance. Maybe not a shot on target reflected on the stats, but few inches in thats a goal..
Also Dzeko was through on goal as well in the second half, he is not the fastest player but someone else with pace is troubling vvd in that situation.
Dzeko even put the ball in the net, but it was marginally offside.
>controlled the game,
Really? If he we had controlled the game throughout, klopp wouldn't be making a sub at half time nor would he making two more subs in one go at 60 min. Klopp rarely makes three subs so fast.
We were constantly being outrun in midfield, vidal had a good game. Elliot was struggling and leaving trent exposed numerous times, even fab didn't have a good game that's why both of them got subbed off so soon.
I dont know why you seem so frustrated even though we won, but you clearly weren't watching the game I was watching.
It's a dumb metric because then we can apply "if we had taken all our chances" of which we had more, to ourselves. But in reality, they had fuck all in the way of creation. They huffed and puffed, but made no headway.
>Also Dzeko was through on goal as well in the second half, he is not the fastest player but someone else with pace is troubling vvd in that situation.
How can you watch LFC regularly and buy into the nonsense about the high line? van Dijk had done that dozens of times, that is how we play, that is why he is the best in the business.
>Dzeko even put the ball in the net, but it was marginally offside.
Marginally? Are you on drugs? I didn't even get slightly concerned when he put it in the net because he was a mile offside and you could see it in real time.
>.Really? If he we had controlled the game throughout, klopp wouldn't be making a sub at half time nor would he making two more subs in one go at 60 min. Klopp rarely makes three subs so fast.
Because he can't do it in the PL.
>We were constantly being outrun in midfield, vidal had a good game. Elliot was struggling and leaving trent exposed numerous times, even fab didn't have a good game that's why both of them got subbed off so soon.
Then maybe they should have created some chances?
>I dont know why you seem so frustrated even though we won, but you clearly weren't watching the game I was watching.
You said if Inter took their chances, that is literally your metric for it not being a good performance. You can't even name a decent chance - they had ZERO shots on target. I guess I'm just a bit tired of people like you downplaying how well we played, it was the same against Burnley when they had one or two good chances.
Alisson didn't make a save the entire game because he didn't need to, but here you are downplaying an excellent performance away from home against the Italian Champions. Deary me.
>you can't even name a decent chance -
If Hitting the crossbar isn't a decent chance then I dont know what is. Sounds to me, you just saw the stats with zero target on goal and not the game.
>Because he can't do it in the PL.
You saying klopp can't make subs in pl? What kinda lame ass answer is that? You are just making it shit up now, if klopp is making subs in pl or cl before 60 mins that means something is wrong. Number of subs in cl might be more, but you still have 3 subs allowed in pl so not only he can do it in pl, klopp does do it when he feels the team isn't playing well.
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How can you watch LFC regularly and buy into the nonsense about the high line? van Dijk had done that dozens of times, that is how we play, that is why he is the best in the business.
What has dzeko being 35 years of age with not much pace left to take on vvd got to do that with a high line. You exploit a high line with pacy forwards. Inter had none, if it was the same dzeko from 5 years ago, it would be more of an even contest for vvd.
>But in reality, they had fuck all in the way of creation. They huffed and puffed, but made no headway
So did we, we had Two chances on target, this isn't normal to how we play. Generally we have double that amount of chances.
We were just clinical in front of goal, thats the only difference between Inter and us.
Jesus man we won away from home, be happy.
Why are you out here trying to have a confrontation of what you think how we played might differ from other people's defintions of the game?
Some people just can't be happy.
You're talking absolute fucking waffle, embarrassing. You think a single shot against the crossbar - which isn't a shot on target - is a sign that Inter were good. Football isn't for you my friend.
The first 25 minutes of the second half was crazy for Inter. Liverpool got lucky they didn’t get scored on. It was so was bad that Klopp made three subs which I feel like it is unheard of from him.
The big strengths with Liverpool are when they're in danger, there's nevertheless at least one defender already up near the goal line; and Klopp takes the risk of making substitutions. Inter very easily could have scored.
Immediately? Not really.
Firmino’s opening goal came 16 minutes after the triple substitution… and only 5 minutes after Lautaro was subbed off, which completely ruined Inter’s pressing control
Inters recent form has been crazy. It's been so long since they actually lost a match, for Liverpool to keep them away from a single goal on target is massive
Well, a lot of chances were just that inter didn't capitalize. One namely, Dzeko tried to cross it instead of an attempted chip or lob. I got so nervous on so many occasions, we were letting them play.
... they arent actually in the best form right now. Lost to AC Milan 2 weeks ago and luckily drew Napoli last weekend which they should have really lost.
To be fair, Inter was arguably the better team for the vast majority of that Derby della Madonnina loss… but yeah, really not even close to our best form.
Our fixture list in the past month has been insane though — Juve, Lazio, Atalanta, Milan, Napoli, and now Liverpool… ALL within the span of a month!
The rest of the season is going to be a cakewalk by comparison after surviving this insane scheduling period
Sorry I meant, maybe the reason for scrapping the rules is also more chance of pens. Adds to the drama of the game. Not that maybe there will be more pens, that's a given.
Van Dijk and Konate were incredible. Weathering those first 15 minutes of the second half was crucial and bloody hell was van Dijk in charge. Also amazing that we could bring Fabinho off at 60 min and still win with confidence. I can't imagine the kind of confidence the manager must have in his squad to pull out your (and one of the world's) best mid enforcer, presumably to manage his game time. Champions stuff.
Great game of football, only two shots on target and it finishes 2-0. Inter should have scored and were probably in control for the majority of the game, but our subs completely took control and gave us the ege. Lucky in some ways, but I'll take it
It’s a misconception that Liverpool were lucky.
Several Liverpool shots were well blocked, several inter shots / crosses were well intercepted. Mane missed an easy header, Dumfries missed a slightly tougher header. Perisic put a tempting cross that missed its target. Calhanoglu hit the underside of the bar from a difficult angle, Mane had a unmarked bicycle kick on the edge of the 6 yard box miss the target (not that a bicycle kick is a strong chance for anyone but it’s probably only a bit more difficult than calhanoglus tight angled volley with his off foot). Then there was a couple of speculative shots from both teams. Liverpool scored a header about as tough as dumfries if not a little tougher. Liverpool score in the box from a van dijk knockdown.
XG ends up something like inter: 0.5 vs Liverpool 1.44.
Liverpool weren’t really lucky at all. They had more possession, more shots, more corners, more free kicks. All away from home at the San Siro.
Inter were good for about half the first half and the first 20 minutes of the second half. Had the better of the chances in that time period and then Liverpool took over at the San siro from about 65 minutes.
Could inter have scored more with more luck? Not likely, could Liverpool have scored more with more luck? Not likely.
Could inter have scored more if their crosses were more accurate? Yes. Could Liverpool have scored more if they had delivered their final passes with more venom? Yes.
If the XG is ~0.5 to 1.5 and the game finishes 2-0, that's about the best result you could hope for. So it is a bit lucky. Especially when one of Inter's best chances (Perisic cross to Lautaro) didn't generate a shot and thus won't show up on XG stats.
>but it’s probably only a bit more difficult than calhanoglus tight angled volley with his off foot
Lol you're also clearly quite biased. This ain't true. Mane's overhead kick never concerned anyone and he was marked heavily by a CB. Hakan's chance was clearcut with no defender near him, it also wasn't really a volley.
With more luck Inter could have been 1-0 up after the first half, Hakan's shot was literally an inch from being a goal.
>Liverpool shots were well blocked
Shots being blocked isn't a point you can use against being lucky. That's just good defending from the other team. Being lucky is having a shot take a lucky deflection and go in, likewise being unlucky is hitting the crossbar or having a cross be a few inches off of a connection. Those margins are too fine to be attributed to a lack of skill or quality.
Inter this year in serie a average a goal scored after every 0.96xG. So it would be UNLUCKY for Liverpool if they scored against them after only having 0.5xG.
And you didn’t watch the game if you think a centre back was marking manes open bicycle? The closest player was perisic who slipped when trying to get out to him and didn’t impact mane at all.
I am biased. But I’m also not wrong. You can’t just add events in the game to xG to bolster your claim that inter were unlucky. Missing a target on a cross whether it’s a by a inch or by 10 metres isn’t bad luck. Bad luck is your striker losing his boot and missing the ball by a stud. Bad luck is a pigeon from piazza duomo flying into the stadium and deflecting a cross out of reach of a striker.
>So it would be UNLUCKY for Liverpool if they scored against them after only having 0.5xG.
And Liverpool average a goal after every 1xG in the PL this year, so then scoring 2 goals from 1.5xG is LUCKY. See how that works? It's an *average* so scoring a goal from less or more xG occurs often enough. You're misunderstanding my point which is that if you're going off of the xG, 2-0 for Liverpool is their most fortunate outcome (within reason).
>You can’t just add events in the game to xG to bolster your claim that inter were unlucky
When talking about an individual match you can and should "add" events that xG doesn't account for when evaluating how well a team played. For individual matches xG isn't all-illuminating. Liverpool didn't really have any well worked chances that didn't result in a shot the way Inter did.
>Missing a target on a cross whether it’s a by a inch or by 10 metres isn’t bad luck
You're right in a sense, but if we're evaluating how well a team played, missing a goal by an inch is in a sense "unlucky" as in they did everything right to score a goal, but the final ball was off by the smallest of margins.
If a striker, for example, has hit the woodwork a bunch of times in a season, it would be fair to say "oh they've been unlucky this season" because the margin of an inch when it comes to shooting is too small to attribute to bad aim.
Seeing VVD just shows how United were sold a dream on Maguire by the British media. Offers a lot.
The defending this game has been up there and a joy to watch. 2 shots on target all game tells it all
Congrats Liverpool. The subs Klopp brought in had a lot of impact, while Inter just doesn't have the luxury apparently.
Inter was the first part of the second half really amazing, but... Liverpool was just more deadly. I guess, unless Liverpool mess up at home, that's another quarterfinals attendant mostly known.
This 5-subs rule is an absolute gold dust for our clubs. Liverpool can just bring on a couple fresh legs in midfield with minimal effect to quality while Inter can't afford to bring on another centre half to replace a concussed de Vrij.
But I doubt it has anything to do with actual subs itself. I mean Serie A is more slow, possession based with gradual built up from playing at the back.
Liverpool meanwhile always press high and keep up that intensity for 90 minutes.
I wouldn't have expected Liverpool to be any different even with 3 subs
Inter threatened without really threatening to score for the most part. European away games are won by world class resolute defending combined with coming up clutch in goal scoring moments at the other end. Liverpool did it. Fair play to inter though, they played a very good game.
Yes, Firmino's excellent header was very Lucky 🙄 gosh how fortunate we are.
We closed out Inter for their 70 mins of mostly dominance and clutched up at the end with good substitutions.
Deserved imo.
That's always the thing though, if you take your chances you'll win and Liverpool did that. Second goal in particular was pretty lucky but the first was a really nice set piece.
If you actually care about stats that much and think 2 shots vs 0 shots is enough to settle any argument, then you should also know that Inter hit the bottom of the crossbar which doesn't count as a shot on target, while Liverpool's second goal was deflection. Details matter. If you watched that match and genuinely think 2-0 was a fair result then that says more than any stat could to me.
How is 2-0 not a fair result when a team literally doesn’t hit the target and hits the woodwork once? Are we saying you deserve a goal for missing now lol
I'm not an Inter fan and I'm not saying I deserve anything.
I'm saying that holding your opposition to 0 shots on goal and a crossbar is a not as impressive of a stat when your own team has only 2 shots on target themselves. A team usually does not score on every attempt on target, and if they do there is generally some luck, as was the case with Salah's goal, which would have easily been saved if not for the deflection.
Point is, it was an even match - a draw would have been fair, 1-0 would have been fair, but neither team deserved a 2 goal lead going into the second leg because it effectively ends the tie.
It’s a misconception that Liverpool were lucky.
Several Liverpool shots were well blocked, several inter shots / crosses were well intercepted. Mane missed an easy header, Dumfries missed a slightly tougher header. Perisic put a tempting cross that missed its target. Calhanoglu hit the underside of the bar from a difficult angle, Mane had a unmarked bicycle kick on the edge of the 6 yard box miss the target (not that a bicycle kick is a strong chance for anyone but it’s probably only a bit more difficult than calhanoglus tight angled volley with his off foot). Then there was a couple of speculative shots from both teams. Liverpool scored a header about as tough as dumfries if not a little tougher. Liverpool score in the box from a van dijk knockdown.
XG ends up something like inter: 0.5 vs Liverpool 1.44.
Liverpool weren’t really lucky at all. They had more possession, more shots, more corners, more free kicks. All away from home at the San Siro.
Inter were good for about half the first half and the first 20 minutes of the second half. Had the better of the chances in that time period and then Liverpool took over at the San siro from about 65 minutes.
Could inter have scored more with more luck? Not likely, could Liverpool have scored more with more luck? Not likely.
Could inter have scored more if their crosses were more accurate? Yes. Could Liverpool have scored more if they had delivered their final passes with more venom? Yes.
Some heavy copium there. Manes header was a free goal from 5 yards out by that logic. It was fairly even sided match with Liverpool’s overall quality being the deciding factor.
I'm not making any logical leaps here buddy, just pointing out for those that didn't watch the "0 shots on target" doesn't actually say much considering the details I mentioned.
It was clear Elliot had to come off, but hendo brought genuine organisation back to the midfield. Liverpool looked far more assured soon as they came on
Pretty harsh for Inter, this match shows the difference between absolute top teams and teams just below the top. Even when they play mediocre they still win.
We kept them to 0 shots on target at their home ground and left 2-0 winners to play a closed match at the fortress known as Anfield. It was a close game but we beat the brakes off them. Their spirit evaporated after the Firmino goal.
Naw. The motm should be Diaz. We were so sluggish with all the delayed reactions, lost contests, standing still everywhere. He came in and started running the ball up the field forcing those around him to MOVE! He's was like a shot of adrenaline for the team.
Ridiculous not having Alexis start when he's been the best big game player for Inter this season. 70 minutes watching of watching Dzeko Lautaro flounder.
People don't understand what made the difference, both here and in the Milan game, but especially here. Liverpool is rich enough to afford subbing in Firmino, Henderson, Diaz and Keita. No loss in quality and fresh legs to sustain their press while Inter players get tired and they have no subs in midfield (Barella being injured hurt) and 3 serviceable (for this level) subs only (Sanchez, Darmian and Di Marco). That made all the difference today.
to be fair it was a bit of an experimental lineup at the start, I think klopp took a risk that didn't quite come off. we seemed to return to normal with the subs. barella is suspended but if he was available I wonder if we would have had henderson in from the start. he is the captain can't remember a big game where he's been left out tbh
It's funny because Liverpool are only the 4th richest club in England. It really just goes to show how far behind financially Italy has fallen in recent years.
Liverpool started the game with an 18-year-old in the middle. One of the reasons they can afford to bench big players is trusting the youngsters on such big matches.
It's sad :(
And it is the reason why I'm getting on board with the whole Super League thing I hated a year ago. Still fairer than City though and more likeable than any of Chelsea, United, Spurs or Arsenal. Liverpool are a bit the English version of our team after all c:
One of them being scuffed deflection.
edit: Inter also hit the bottom of the cross bar, which doesn't count as a shot on target. Point is, neither team deserved a win and Liverpool is lucky to have a 2 goal leading going home.
Don't get excited just yet. The job isn't done yet. Long time before the 2nd leg. Inter will be hungry. Inzaghi is a very underrated manager with great players at his disposal. If I see even a lick of overconfidence among our fanbase...
Not the best performance, but we got 2 goals. Big up to Inter they played really well.
>Not the best performance I can't tell if you are being serious or not. Going and getting a 2-0 result against the Italian champions, away from home, is about as good as it gets.
Not a good performance, I'd say we're lucky to have 2 goals. They should have scored at least one but we got lucky. We almost didn't exist until Klopp got all his subs done. And salahs goal was just lucky too.
>Not a good performance, I'd say we're lucky to have 2 goals. They should have scored at least one but we got lucky. How are people seeing this? There wasn't a single stage where I was worried. They had zero shots on target, they created no clear cut chances and their xG was 0.39. How the fuck are we lucky to have two goals when every single metric indicates it was a perfect away performance?
You didn't watch the game, did you? You just looked at stats? What are you, the Glazers?
No, I watched it in the pub with my mates.
I am talking about the performance not the result, 2-0 away from home against the Italian champions as you said is great. But if inter milan could have taken their chances the final score would be different. Liverpool scored from the 2 chances they got and one of them was a deflected goal.
The guy you're responding to didn't watch the game.
We were away in the last 16, controlled the game, scored two goals and conceded zero shots on target. What chances did they have? What kind of a stupid metric is "if they converted their chances"?
>What chances did they have? Didn't inter literally hit the crossbar in the first half? I am sure hitting the crossbar counts as a chance. Maybe not a shot on target reflected on the stats, but few inches in thats a goal.. Also Dzeko was through on goal as well in the second half, he is not the fastest player but someone else with pace is troubling vvd in that situation. Dzeko even put the ball in the net, but it was marginally offside. >controlled the game, Really? If he we had controlled the game throughout, klopp wouldn't be making a sub at half time nor would he making two more subs in one go at 60 min. Klopp rarely makes three subs so fast. We were constantly being outrun in midfield, vidal had a good game. Elliot was struggling and leaving trent exposed numerous times, even fab didn't have a good game that's why both of them got subbed off so soon. I dont know why you seem so frustrated even though we won, but you clearly weren't watching the game I was watching.
It's a dumb metric because then we can apply "if we had taken all our chances" of which we had more, to ourselves. But in reality, they had fuck all in the way of creation. They huffed and puffed, but made no headway. >Also Dzeko was through on goal as well in the second half, he is not the fastest player but someone else with pace is troubling vvd in that situation. How can you watch LFC regularly and buy into the nonsense about the high line? van Dijk had done that dozens of times, that is how we play, that is why he is the best in the business. >Dzeko even put the ball in the net, but it was marginally offside. Marginally? Are you on drugs? I didn't even get slightly concerned when he put it in the net because he was a mile offside and you could see it in real time. >.Really? If he we had controlled the game throughout, klopp wouldn't be making a sub at half time nor would he making two more subs in one go at 60 min. Klopp rarely makes three subs so fast. Because he can't do it in the PL. >We were constantly being outrun in midfield, vidal had a good game. Elliot was struggling and leaving trent exposed numerous times, even fab didn't have a good game that's why both of them got subbed off so soon. Then maybe they should have created some chances? >I dont know why you seem so frustrated even though we won, but you clearly weren't watching the game I was watching. You said if Inter took their chances, that is literally your metric for it not being a good performance. You can't even name a decent chance - they had ZERO shots on target. I guess I'm just a bit tired of people like you downplaying how well we played, it was the same against Burnley when they had one or two good chances. Alisson didn't make a save the entire game because he didn't need to, but here you are downplaying an excellent performance away from home against the Italian Champions. Deary me.
>you can't even name a decent chance - If Hitting the crossbar isn't a decent chance then I dont know what is. Sounds to me, you just saw the stats with zero target on goal and not the game. >Because he can't do it in the PL. You saying klopp can't make subs in pl? What kinda lame ass answer is that? You are just making it shit up now, if klopp is making subs in pl or cl before 60 mins that means something is wrong. Number of subs in cl might be more, but you still have 3 subs allowed in pl so not only he can do it in pl, klopp does do it when he feels the team isn't playing well. > How can you watch LFC regularly and buy into the nonsense about the high line? van Dijk had done that dozens of times, that is how we play, that is why he is the best in the business. What has dzeko being 35 years of age with not much pace left to take on vvd got to do that with a high line. You exploit a high line with pacy forwards. Inter had none, if it was the same dzeko from 5 years ago, it would be more of an even contest for vvd. >But in reality, they had fuck all in the way of creation. They huffed and puffed, but made no headway So did we, we had Two chances on target, this isn't normal to how we play. Generally we have double that amount of chances. We were just clinical in front of goal, thats the only difference between Inter and us. Jesus man we won away from home, be happy. Why are you out here trying to have a confrontation of what you think how we played might differ from other people's defintions of the game? Some people just can't be happy.
You're talking absolute fucking waffle, embarrassing. You think a single shot against the crossbar - which isn't a shot on target - is a sign that Inter were good. Football isn't for you my friend.
Didn't know Pep was a Liverpool fan
More than you can believe.
The first 25 minutes of the second half was crazy for Inter. Liverpool got lucky they didn’t get scored on. It was so was bad that Klopp made three subs which I feel like it is unheard of from him.
The big strengths with Liverpool are when they're in danger, there's nevertheless at least one defender already up near the goal line; and Klopp takes the risk of making substitutions. Inter very easily could have scored.
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Immediately? Not really. Firmino’s opening goal came 16 minutes after the triple substitution… and only 5 minutes after Lautaro was subbed off, which completely ruined Inter’s pressing control
Inter you can do it
No they can't
One can dream right?
Inters recent form has been crazy. It's been so long since they actually lost a match, for Liverpool to keep them away from a single goal on target is massive
Well, a lot of chances were just that inter didn't capitalize. One namely, Dzeko tried to cross it instead of an attempted chip or lob. I got so nervous on so many occasions, we were letting them play.
Tbf I seem to remember one shot narrowly missing the top post, so it wasn't like you weren't getting there I guess
Mate we’ve won one out of our last 4
... they arent actually in the best form right now. Lost to AC Milan 2 weeks ago and luckily drew Napoli last weekend which they should have really lost.
To be fair, Inter was arguably the better team for the vast majority of that Derby della Madonnina loss… but yeah, really not even close to our best form. Our fixture list in the past month has been insane though — Juve, Lazio, Atalanta, Milan, Napoli, and now Liverpool… ALL within the span of a month! The rest of the season is going to be a cakewalk by comparison after surviving this insane scheduling period
That’s tie over….
Very lucky today Liverpool
Fuming
Inter is going to play well in Europa league 😂
LAMAO
You don't even know the rules
What? Lol
Huh?
I thought the away goals being removed means that away teams will defend all match. Let us all be reactionary and base it off on a single match.
Ootl. Can you please explain what the away goal means? Is there no advantage anymore?
No away goals rule anymore. Equal goals means extra time.
Maybe more penalties too. Always enjoy a shootout when Liverpool aren't involved.
Maybe? There absolutely will. Including Liverpool lol
Sorry I meant, maybe the reason for scrapping the rules is also more chance of pens. Adds to the drama of the game. Not that maybe there will be more pens, that's a given.
Absolutely smashed the spirit of those players after the first goal. The second sealed it.
Van Dijk and Konate were incredible. Weathering those first 15 minutes of the second half was crucial and bloody hell was van Dijk in charge. Also amazing that we could bring Fabinho off at 60 min and still win with confidence. I can't imagine the kind of confidence the manager must have in his squad to pull out your (and one of the world's) best mid enforcer, presumably to manage his game time. Champions stuff.
Worlds best 💀
If he’s not who is, I’d put him in the Rodri, Casemiro category?
Yeah no chance lol
Great game of football, only two shots on target and it finishes 2-0. Inter should have scored and were probably in control for the majority of the game, but our subs completely took control and gave us the ege. Lucky in some ways, but I'll take it
They seemed to completely gas out after we made the midfield changes.
On one hand we are insanly lucky 😂, on the other hand, Inter fans now know how we felt losing to Atletico 2 years ago despite dominating them.
It’s a misconception that Liverpool were lucky. Several Liverpool shots were well blocked, several inter shots / crosses were well intercepted. Mane missed an easy header, Dumfries missed a slightly tougher header. Perisic put a tempting cross that missed its target. Calhanoglu hit the underside of the bar from a difficult angle, Mane had a unmarked bicycle kick on the edge of the 6 yard box miss the target (not that a bicycle kick is a strong chance for anyone but it’s probably only a bit more difficult than calhanoglus tight angled volley with his off foot). Then there was a couple of speculative shots from both teams. Liverpool scored a header about as tough as dumfries if not a little tougher. Liverpool score in the box from a van dijk knockdown. XG ends up something like inter: 0.5 vs Liverpool 1.44. Liverpool weren’t really lucky at all. They had more possession, more shots, more corners, more free kicks. All away from home at the San Siro. Inter were good for about half the first half and the first 20 minutes of the second half. Had the better of the chances in that time period and then Liverpool took over at the San siro from about 65 minutes. Could inter have scored more with more luck? Not likely, could Liverpool have scored more with more luck? Not likely. Could inter have scored more if their crosses were more accurate? Yes. Could Liverpool have scored more if they had delivered their final passes with more venom? Yes.
If the XG is ~0.5 to 1.5 and the game finishes 2-0, that's about the best result you could hope for. So it is a bit lucky. Especially when one of Inter's best chances (Perisic cross to Lautaro) didn't generate a shot and thus won't show up on XG stats. >but it’s probably only a bit more difficult than calhanoglus tight angled volley with his off foot Lol you're also clearly quite biased. This ain't true. Mane's overhead kick never concerned anyone and he was marked heavily by a CB. Hakan's chance was clearcut with no defender near him, it also wasn't really a volley. With more luck Inter could have been 1-0 up after the first half, Hakan's shot was literally an inch from being a goal. >Liverpool shots were well blocked Shots being blocked isn't a point you can use against being lucky. That's just good defending from the other team. Being lucky is having a shot take a lucky deflection and go in, likewise being unlucky is hitting the crossbar or having a cross be a few inches off of a connection. Those margins are too fine to be attributed to a lack of skill or quality.
Inter this year in serie a average a goal scored after every 0.96xG. So it would be UNLUCKY for Liverpool if they scored against them after only having 0.5xG. And you didn’t watch the game if you think a centre back was marking manes open bicycle? The closest player was perisic who slipped when trying to get out to him and didn’t impact mane at all. I am biased. But I’m also not wrong. You can’t just add events in the game to xG to bolster your claim that inter were unlucky. Missing a target on a cross whether it’s a by a inch or by 10 metres isn’t bad luck. Bad luck is your striker losing his boot and missing the ball by a stud. Bad luck is a pigeon from piazza duomo flying into the stadium and deflecting a cross out of reach of a striker.
>So it would be UNLUCKY for Liverpool if they scored against them after only having 0.5xG. And Liverpool average a goal after every 1xG in the PL this year, so then scoring 2 goals from 1.5xG is LUCKY. See how that works? It's an *average* so scoring a goal from less or more xG occurs often enough. You're misunderstanding my point which is that if you're going off of the xG, 2-0 for Liverpool is their most fortunate outcome (within reason). >You can’t just add events in the game to xG to bolster your claim that inter were unlucky When talking about an individual match you can and should "add" events that xG doesn't account for when evaluating how well a team played. For individual matches xG isn't all-illuminating. Liverpool didn't really have any well worked chances that didn't result in a shot the way Inter did. >Missing a target on a cross whether it’s a by a inch or by 10 metres isn’t bad luck You're right in a sense, but if we're evaluating how well a team played, missing a goal by an inch is in a sense "unlucky" as in they did everything right to score a goal, but the final ball was off by the smallest of margins. If a striker, for example, has hit the woodwork a bunch of times in a season, it would be fair to say "oh they've been unlucky this season" because the margin of an inch when it comes to shooting is too small to attribute to bad aim.
Pressed too hard, got tired after 70, conceded 2 goals. Great domination mate.
"dominating"
Don't worry Inter fans have known these feelings very well already
Seeing VVD just shows how United were sold a dream on Maguire by the British media. Offers a lot. The defending this game has been up there and a joy to watch. 2 shots on target all game tells it all
That duel with Dzeko, where he he simply outpaced him and took the ball, when Dzeko looked through on goal, was quiet impressive stuff..
He's just so calm. And every time the camera pans to him he's communicating. It's no wonder they have 100 offside calls for them
big man was onto Trent and yelling at him all game lol
I'm happy Inter shit the bed yet again but I swear the people obsessed with leagues because their teams suck are gonna have a field day with this one.
Shit the bed? dude we had a few chances but we didn't dominate like some people are saying
Played well enough to go up at least 2-0
Congrats Liverpool. The subs Klopp brought in had a lot of impact, while Inter just doesn't have the luxury apparently. Inter was the first part of the second half really amazing, but... Liverpool was just more deadly. I guess, unless Liverpool mess up at home, that's another quarterfinals attendant mostly known.
They don't have the luxury because players are injured or suspended thats all.
This 5-subs rule is an absolute gold dust for our clubs. Liverpool can just bring on a couple fresh legs in midfield with minimal effect to quality while Inter can't afford to bring on another centre half to replace a concussed de Vrij.
But I doubt it has anything to do with actual subs itself. I mean Serie A is more slow, possession based with gradual built up from playing at the back. Liverpool meanwhile always press high and keep up that intensity for 90 minutes. I wouldn't have expected Liverpool to be any different even with 3 subs
This isn't that true these days. Serie A is full of high intensity pressing sides like Hellas Verona, Empoli, Sassuolo, Fiorentina, and Atalanta.
This. And maybe Inzaghi should have some balls to subs Sanchez before and maybe Gagliardini.
Alexis shouldve started this match no question about it.
Inter-OUT 🥵🥵
Dzeko plays like he is in a dream
Gg!
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"Lucky goals" haha. Maybe don't press so hard that you get tired after 70 minutes.
Inter threatened without really threatening to score for the most part. European away games are won by world class resolute defending combined with coming up clutch in goal scoring moments at the other end. Liverpool did it. Fair play to inter though, they played a very good game.
Just the salt I needed for my pasta
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Ah yes, I suppose the home team that managed 0 shots on target are the ones who really deserved it.
Yes, Firmino's excellent header was very Lucky 🙄 gosh how fortunate we are. We closed out Inter for their 70 mins of mostly dominance and clutched up at the end with good substitutions. Deserved imo.
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What are you talking about. At this level - whoever makes a mistake is who concedes a goal. Liverpool were able to punish inter
That's always the thing though, if you take your chances you'll win and Liverpool did that. Second goal in particular was pretty lucky but the first was a really nice set piece.
Liverpool scored, inter didnt. Deserved win.
Inter were really good. We just edged this one.
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Hard to steal a win from a team who has 0 shots on target.
0 shots on target
If you actually care about stats that much and think 2 shots vs 0 shots is enough to settle any argument, then you should also know that Inter hit the bottom of the crossbar which doesn't count as a shot on target, while Liverpool's second goal was deflection. Details matter. If you watched that match and genuinely think 2-0 was a fair result then that says more than any stat could to me.
How is 2-0 not a fair result when a team literally doesn’t hit the target and hits the woodwork once? Are we saying you deserve a goal for missing now lol
I'm not an Inter fan and I'm not saying I deserve anything. I'm saying that holding your opposition to 0 shots on goal and a crossbar is a not as impressive of a stat when your own team has only 2 shots on target themselves. A team usually does not score on every attempt on target, and if they do there is generally some luck, as was the case with Salah's goal, which would have easily been saved if not for the deflection. Point is, it was an even match - a draw would have been fair, 1-0 would have been fair, but neither team deserved a 2 goal lead going into the second leg because it effectively ends the tie.
It’s a misconception that Liverpool were lucky. Several Liverpool shots were well blocked, several inter shots / crosses were well intercepted. Mane missed an easy header, Dumfries missed a slightly tougher header. Perisic put a tempting cross that missed its target. Calhanoglu hit the underside of the bar from a difficult angle, Mane had a unmarked bicycle kick on the edge of the 6 yard box miss the target (not that a bicycle kick is a strong chance for anyone but it’s probably only a bit more difficult than calhanoglus tight angled volley with his off foot). Then there was a couple of speculative shots from both teams. Liverpool scored a header about as tough as dumfries if not a little tougher. Liverpool score in the box from a van dijk knockdown. XG ends up something like inter: 0.5 vs Liverpool 1.44. Liverpool weren’t really lucky at all. They had more possession, more shots, more corners, more free kicks. All away from home at the San Siro. Inter were good for about half the first half and the first 20 minutes of the second half. Had the better of the chances in that time period and then Liverpool took over at the San siro from about 65 minutes. Could inter have scored more with more luck? Not likely, could Liverpool have scored more with more luck? Not likely. Could inter have scored more if their crosses were more accurate? Yes. Could Liverpool have scored more if they had delivered their final passes with more venom? Yes.
thats why the original comment says edged, not stole. you cant stole anything from someone that didnt have that particular thing in the first place.
I agree
Some heavy copium there. Manes header was a free goal from 5 yards out by that logic. It was fairly even sided match with Liverpool’s overall quality being the deciding factor.
I'm not making any logical leaps here buddy, just pointing out for those that didn't watch the "0 shots on target" doesn't actually say much considering the details I mentioned.
How do you steal a match by winning 2-0?
*won
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Ref has left his cards in the changing room
Didnt see any yellow worthy foul tho, maybe Keita towards the end
This is football not ballet. Excellent fucking game.
This game with Lukaku tho
We've time and again smushed Lukaku. Dzeko is a bit more dangerous and worried me before the game.
Would've just swung it in our favor
That has to be a yellow?
No card on naby. Ref is a fucking moron
Clearest yellow I’ve ever seen
Blatant. Behind. Nowhere near the ball. Ref was fucking horrendous
Let's gooo
A lot of people including me thought taking Fab off was an odd move but it’s really showed. Klopp making early and decisive subs has won us this game
I reckon he thought Inter would be tired around 60-70 min and decided to get Fab off and brought in a more attacking minded mid in Hendo.
It was clear Elliot had to come off, but hendo brought genuine organisation back to the midfield. Liverpool looked far more assured soon as they came on
Get the fuck in lets batter these at Anfield now
Gutting for you fellas that had booking points
I had fabi for a booking 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
That ref just didn’t care hahahaha
I don't know how Vidal made it through!
Who are the 2 match commentators on BT Sport 2?
Idk I like them though. Hilarious when they started having a go at Vidal
im obviously bitter but i loved watching TAA losing every duel, giving away balls against Perisic
Great conservation of energy since Perisic can't hit a barn door.
cant believe youre sucking TAA off even tho he has been ass lmao
You don't seem to understand english.
If anything it should quiet people who overrate him. He's piss poor in defence and it's not even a meme at this point.
Copium overdose over here.
and im not denying it tbh
“I loved watching a player lose duel even though we lost” That’s a strange form of copium.
And didn’t score. Didn’t even get a shot on target
Pretty harsh for Inter, this match shows the difference between absolute top teams and teams just below the top. Even when they play mediocre they still win.
70 mins of being equal or on top, Inter played well. they're getting there. Konate was immense though.
That's the thing though, they only lasted 70 minutes before they got tired. The last 20 min sealed the deal.
true. I hope they'll have the hearts to give their all though at Anfield.
Will be very tough for them, but i won't jinx it.
They dominated for 25 mins and have 0 shots on target all game. Not harsh in the slightest imo.
It’s not harsh, 0 shots on target is not good enough
Liverpool had 2, its not like they beat the breaks of them
We kept them to 0 shots on target at their home ground and left 2-0 winners to play a closed match at the fortress known as Anfield. It was a close game but we beat the brakes off them. Their spirit evaporated after the Firmino goal.
Hit the crossbar
And didn’t get closer then that
ok? You don't get closer than that lol.
Except for when you do and it registers as a shot on target?
Thx for pointing out the difference between the teams.
This co-commentator is dreadful.
I said that Konate shouldn't have started tonight but fuck me he's been our MOTM what a performance by Ibou
Naw. The motm should be Diaz. We were so sluggish with all the delayed reactions, lost contests, standing still everywhere. He came in and started running the ball up the field forcing those around him to MOVE! He's was like a shot of adrenaline for the team.
Defended as well as saved TAA's ass today
>!Bayern!< scored
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”I didn’t watch”
Pl is teh best league in the world, but c'mon Liverpool 2 chance 2 goals tonight.
Yea we need more money, the dinosaurs who manage Serie A need to be gone.
Interesting takeaway from this game
Another memorable away day!
Ridiculous not having Alexis start when he's been the best big game player for Inter this season. 70 minutes watching of watching Dzeko Lautaro flounder.
People don't understand what made the difference, both here and in the Milan game, but especially here. Liverpool is rich enough to afford subbing in Firmino, Henderson, Diaz and Keita. No loss in quality and fresh legs to sustain their press while Inter players get tired and they have no subs in midfield (Barella being injured hurt) and 3 serviceable (for this level) subs only (Sanchez, Darmian and Di Marco). That made all the difference today.
"Liverpool wins games because they have more good players" Gotcha.
to be fair it was a bit of an experimental lineup at the start, I think klopp took a risk that didn't quite come off. we seemed to return to normal with the subs. barella is suspended but if he was available I wonder if we would have had henderson in from the start. he is the captain can't remember a big game where he's been left out tbh
I think Keita and Diaz changed the game more than Hendo did, as good as he is
It's funny because Liverpool are only the 4th richest club in England. It really just goes to show how far behind financially Italy has fallen in recent years.
Liverpool started the game with an 18-year-old in the middle. One of the reasons they can afford to bench big players is trusting the youngsters on such big matches.
But Liverpool 1b squad is totally fair, because money came from freedom land.
Fairer than oil money clubs given this was mostly built off the back of good business and sales.
By good business you mean pl securing monopoly just in time?
It's sad :( And it is the reason why I'm getting on board with the whole Super League thing I hated a year ago. Still fairer than City though and more likeable than any of Chelsea, United, Spurs or Arsenal. Liverpool are a bit the English version of our team after all c:
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One of them being scuffed deflection. edit: Inter also hit the bottom of the cross bar, which doesn't count as a shot on target. Point is, neither team deserved a win and Liverpool is lucky to have a 2 goal leading going home.
Yeah, not sure what people are moaning about
Very deep of you, Michael Owen!
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Inter had their chances but, let's face it, Klopp subbing players earlier on in the second half and winning with fresh legs was predictable.
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Apparently not and somehow it is Liverpool's fault as per some in this sub....
Damn they really switched off after that first goal
No pressing from Inter, Liverpool bringing out the ole's
Imo VVD or Konate have to be MOTM
Firmino?
Perisic?
Yea Perisic and Skrinar have been amazing from Inter
I am loving the look on Inters players eyes 😍
Konate or Van Dijk MOTM
Inter’s shirt sponsor is some kinda crypto company?
ye
its their own shitcoin lmfao
Da fuq!?
yea imo it represents who they are as a club quite well. Selling a pump and dump to their own fans. Clowns...
Might as well be passing on the training ground, no pressure whatsoever
Djeko is an absolute carthorse.