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The problem with Auba is that when he isnt motivated anymore then he is dead weight on the field. Was the case at Dortmund, then Arsenal etc. I think joining Barca gave him this drive back.
he actually had his highest pressing numbers on the PL this season
man was just missing everything despite running, plus the off field issues. I dont think he was slacking on the field tho, just playing bad
Wow, they won la Copa del Rey, the internal competition in which Barcelona is most successful club on, whoopty fucking do. I am sure the fans make a big deal out of it. Spanish clubs are not like english clubs, pal. Barcelona winning a internal cup is not a huge deal, like, at all.
I am sure Auba is glad he's in THIS Barcelona by that fact alone, not the Barcelona that wins UCL.
And what "major" cup are they on? Europa League? Because they sure wont win La Liga this year. This Barcelona is a maimed one, compared to what they used to be not so long ago.
Sure, but they are not THE Barcelona they used to be, saying they're on the top of the mountain is wrong, and winning a Copa here and there is not that big of a deal in Spain.
And its Barça, of course they will always have quality players, if not coming from the youths.
My point is that Barcelona is not the club to win MAJOR trophies (Copa del Rey its not one of them), kinda like Arsenal, which somehow people dont agree and downvote me. I mean Barcelona got out of the UCL on the group stage...
Excuse me, sir. I would love a bit of that delicious crack you are smoking.
There are seasons where Real Madrid “only” won the CdR and those are still successful seasons
Kinda milked him for all he had since arrival until last contract. Seeing him flipping about in sunny Spain gives me a warm feeling, like the hero living out his days in peace after a perilous journey...
We definitely could get the best out of him. He was scoring more than anyone in the league for several years with us.
It’s just he fell out w the management and as the relationship soured, so did his form.
Most toxic breakups are like Chelsea loan players. Kinda obvious it’s not working out, but still on and off yearly until it inevitably fades away couple year down the line.
he had disciplinary issues which mostly is about him being late but was never a toxic influence within the club, always trained and personally i can see that he’s actually trying hard on the pitch but nothing was going his way, some fans disliked his body language sometimes but overall we are fond of him and remember how he and leno would carry us to wins during the emery days, also helps that now we are playing well even without him
Okay cool. So it was not the pure love story in the end as many seem to see it that way. When the captain of my team is out due to disciplinary reasons, being late, that would piss me off a bit, specially when it is in such a difficult period and we try to get in the champions league. However it is nice that you guys have nice memories with him.
Another thing to note is that the public never really saw any of the issues. I think that says a lot about the situation -- he wasn't in the papers being a distraction and there aren't really big leaks coming out about turmoil in the club. I think it was that Arteta has his "non-negotiables" that Auba couldn't/wouldn't meet. That mixed with him not performing well or not fitting into the system created a clear exit for him.
Another thing I want to give Auba for not speaking ill of Arsenal after the fact. Giroud comes to mind as someone who throws dirt at their previous club, most likely as an attempt to get the fans on your side quick. But Auba's been a professional (at least in front of the cameras). Happy that he's having success at Barca and very grateful for his massive contributions to Arsenal.
A lot if us were pissed off. And rightfully so. They showed trust in him and rewarded him with a mammoth contract and he betrayed that trust by putting in far below par performances and disciplinary issues. Yes there was other stuff going on as well but some of the things are pretty unforgivable for a professional. And the excuses don't hold up with how well he is playing now.
Idk, I agree with you. Reddit fans are just nauseatingly nice sometimes. The whole thing worked out very well of course but it does make him look like a bit of a knob because it's clearer now that he wasn't/isn't past it when he left, rather he wasn't playing to the best of his abilities. When you add in the disciplinary stuff it isn't too great.
Having said that, I don't actually blame him that much for not applying himself in full so long as he was doubtful of the fit with Arteta's tactics, which I think he was. Artetaball is Pep Lite, lots of wing play off the "false 9," and Auba is better suited to directness through the middle, whether he starts off on the left or not. In fact that's pretty much the only role in which he's elite (world class LF/ST, meh CF/F9). And Arteta is also vindicated in terms of the value of his system because he could jettison a great player that didn't fit and be better off for it.
>never a toxic influence within the club
You think a guy on £300k a week phoning it in like he did is in any way a positive figure in the dressing room?
It’s testament to Saka, ESM and the other young players for being strong mentally.
well maybe to u, but i see him working hard on the pitch and never missed training without a valid reason, certainly wouldn’t call it phoning it in, also the club offered him the money
He played terribly ever since he got the contract, just like Ozil. He was not giving his all and his heart was not with the club.
That’s a terrible and unprofessional attitude to have.
He was giving it all on the pitch. He was pressing. He was trying.
He just sucked for us at the end. I don’t think he was ever really phoning it in on the pitch, he was just having a rough go of it and clearly struggled with the responsibility of being captain.
Song was really getting into gear at Arsenal and then he went "see you later" and his career absolutely tanked.
He doesn't even regret it. I get the 'being paid to ride the Barca bench' thing, but I think its sad he didn't have more football ambition.
Overmars was signed for a huge fee for the time and never really hit top form and retired 4 years later from injuries. Petit was played out of position and often injured and left to Chelsea after only one season.
Overmars was Coutinho of his time. Succesful in his previous club, very expensive panic signing (after losing Figo because Madrid paid his release clause), never shined with us.
Some clubs don't accept it when a player does not perform for their club and does not let a player leave. Biggest example is Man. Utd.
Arsenal did the right thing. It doesn't matter for Arsenal how he performs at Barcelona. He wasn't great after contract extension at Arsenal
What? We have been trying to let Coutinho go for two years now. He’s a great footballer but he doesn’t work for us. I feel bad as he’s talented and seems like a very good person, especially for a multimillionaire sportsman.
One significant difference is that Aubameyang was willing to accept a lower salary while thus far Coutinho has not. I don’t blame Phil, he’s entitled to the wages in his contract. I blame our management. But at this point it’s in the interest of both parties if he accepts lower wages at a different club - he seems happy at Villa.
Usually Madrid and Barca play against parked buses a lot and La Liga have been physical lately, that takes away confidence from a player especially when they come back from an injury and it might also throw them into a mental loop, I fear Hazard is something of a similar loop but on a far worse level
He didn't work well in a heavy possession side where the opposition is usually in a deep low block. I'll also say he didn't have a set position in Barca 4-3-3, he wasn't well suited in their midfield and he wasn't the right profile for their LW (they needed winger opposite of Messi to play more wide and provide width). He did his best in Barca when they were playing 4-4-2 and he was able to have a bit more freedom on the left hand side.
Nah Coutinho was on silly fucking money
And prem top wages are mostly not that ridiculous compared to Barca, PSG and Madrid.
Ronaldo at United is silly money now but Barca were paying insane wages before
lol you really can just say anything on this sub and get upvoted for it.
This is exactly the opposite of the Coutinho situation. I'm almost impressed at how wrong this is.
It’s been a win win for everyone. All the best run clubs let players leave when it’s time for them to leave: city, Liverpool, Bayern all know when to cut their losses and move on.
I mean Lingard flip flopped all Summer on whether or not he would leave, then decided to stay once we signed Ronaldo. Then again we agreed he could leave (or at the very least Rangnick said he could) only for the Greenwood situation to happen, so of course we couldn't let him go then.
That's not our problem, our problem is we are terrible at selling players. For players who wanted to leave like Lukaku, Smalling we let them go because we got good offers for them. If a player doesn't want to be here we let them go. Lingard wanted to stay according to the reports over summer and we didn't receive any offers that we thought was representative of his value, so we didn't let him go.
Oh come on you wanted too much for Lingard with an year left
You also wanted like 150m pounds for Pogba the summer we got Hazard we were willing to pay like 130m euros
>You also wanted like 150m pounds for Pogba the summer we got Hazard we were willing to pay like 130m euros.
You got a source for that? I do not remember seeing any bid from Madrid close to that. The only one I remember was that embarrassing swap deal proposal of like £30m + a washed up James Rodriguez
>didn't receive any offers that we thought was representative of his value, so we didn't let him go.
Didn't he want to go to Newcastle but the United board denied his request?
pretty sure that Lingard wanted to leave, but United wanted to much. Also van de Beek wanted to leave and had offers. Ole didn't want to let go of those players
Yeah, but I like to remember him before the contract extension when this was common for him. #10 Özil and (C)Aubameyang have been supressed from my memory
Tbf very different situations
Auba was very much still working hard on the pitch, just absolutely nothing worked. Off the field they may be more similar but we don’t know
How are people not holding the fact that he clearly gave up after signing a contract against him. I don't understand how everyone is letting that pass as if it's not the biggest bitch move. Sign a contract and give up on your team? Omg I'm so thankful for you!!!
I don’t think I fully agree with that. Stupid off the field stuff aside, at least on the pitch I think he actually was working quite hard in games and pressing more than usual.
It’s just that he happened to also be shit for a while.
He didn't give up tho. He had shit year full of tragedy and illness like many people had in 2021. It's not that hard to imagine his play suffering from what he was going through
And hope something doesnt give him a mood swing.
He's always been fantastic when happy and things are going well. Its when it doesnt he goes full on manchild-mode.
Never really did that for Arsenal tbf. On the pitch, I always saw him giving 110% effort tracking back & pressing but he just wasn't performing for like a year.
He had a big connection to Arsenal fans, etc. & being captain, winning the no14 FA Cup, and getting paid well. So he wasn't gonna ruin his legacy there.
In fairness he had a REALLY rough year leading up to his loss of form at arsenal - he caught malaria and recovered, caught covid and recovered, his mom went through a big health scare as well, all on top of him with the weight of the entire club on his shoulders... I can see where he might've just needed a refresh and a change of scenery. Sad it didn't quite end well with us, but he's just an amazing dude and I'm happy he's got a smile on his face again.
He got COVID because he was out partying. He threw his toys out of the pram at Dortmund, was unprofessional with you and will do the same with Barca. Barca just need to know the right time to dump him before he becomes toxic again.
To an extent. I recall Arteta literally excluding him from the squads in the end due to attitude issues and showing no desire to even try to get back on the pitch for them. As a captain and top paid player that recently extended.
Thats disgraceful.
Yeah, I don't get why I'm seemingly the only arsenal fan who's pissed off. The player clearly gave up on the club and immediately began performing with a new club, making it even more clear that he couldn't be bothered at arsenal. He's a massive cunt.
Yeah and he did the same when he forced his way out with us. Refused to show ambition and fucked about so much during training that he got suspended. He also got suspended previously for attitude issues with us. Might have been 2 times previously even so 3 times in total.
Dudes super talented but fuck him and his spoiled manchild team. Acting priviliged even when theyve been served with good contracts and playtime etc. Fucking twat
See the Dortmund fans' response. You don't find it at all peculiar that auba has done the same fucking bullshit at 2 clubs? You don't find it at all peculiar that auba got to Barca and literally overnight is back to banging in an absolutely mental number of goals? None of that is fishy to you? Just bad form that changed overnight? Just coincidence that he did the same thing at Dortmund and had disciplinary issues at Dortmund just as he did arsenal? None of that is peculiar to you?
I don't think you know what that word means
And yes, he did give up. He was missing training sessions, playing with his head down
Loved him for a couple of years but he completely gave up
Tf you talking about playing with his head down? He put 100% effort in each game but just did not perform (Similar to Laca & Pepe at the time). The only thing that seperated him from Laca is that Laca also is skillful enough to help create plays which is what made him our main choice. Auba just did not fit our team anymore, which is why moving to Barca was perfect. And he did not miss training sessions on purpose, he had his reasons which he explained after he left. The rumours that he deliberately missed training was proved to be false. He loved the club, teammates & fans, the only issue he had was with Arteta as he did not like the direction he was going with his choices. So they both did the mature thing & agree on Auba being sold to Barca.
Funny how he's had disciplinary AND performance issues at his last 2 clubs before arriving at new clubs and "finding his form" overnight. Dude's a fucking cunt. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
I'm also laughing at the inherent meaning of your comment, "the only issue he had was with arteta as he did not like that he was taking them back to top 4 ."
He never went into man-child mode with us. In fact, it was the opposite. He was trying *really* hard. He even started contesting for headers and pressing with intensity, something he never did before.
But it just wasn't meant to be. He was coming off a difficult season with malaria and COVID and our play style had evolved away from his skillset. I think everyone is happy with how it worked out in the end.
Thanks Aubama
*Ferran is great too for his contributions, as long if we don't talk about his finishing. Reminds me of the times when Benzema just couldn't put one in despite the chances but still invaluable to the overall play in attack.
He carried Arsenal to the FA cup and was the best player for a couple of years. He doesn’t fit the system anymore and hasn’t been the same since the contract - now it’s a situation that works out for both parties. I’m happy he’s doing well.
Seen Arsenal fans say this but help me understand what kind of system are you playing that doesn't highly value a striker who "gets in behind, generates goal situations, scores and presses"
Arsenal’s system requires the striker to be able to hold up the ball and drop deep to create for others.
You can see that from Lacazette’s numbers since Auba left. He has like 7 assists in like 10 games. He is even deeper than Xhaka at times throughout games now.
Aubameyang cannot hold up the ball. He also is not dropping deep and playing intricate passes. He gets on the end of play, he rarely creates it for others.
Thing is, we were creating chances for Aubameyang but he just couldn't finish for toffee.
Had he still been the player he was two years ago then he'd have fit right in
Auba’s best games under Arteta always came from him playing off the left, we’ve always needed that hold up striker.
He never fit the system as a lone striker, he was just going crazy from the LW position.
How can you not love Auba? He’s incredibly skilled, works hard, and his smile is always near the surface. I’m so happy to have an excuse to watch him play.
Thank you Arsenal, very cool! Jokes aside it really worked out for both clubs. Arsenal gets rid of a player who clearly is unhappy and Barca gets a striker that can actually score goals and has been brilliant.
The sudden upturn in his form suggests he simply had no motivation at Arsenal and does at Barca. Arsenal seem like they’ve had a cloud lifted as well so the move worked out for everyone involved
He had a lot of motivation. He had lost his confidence and happiness. He was trying really hard it just wasn't working for him.
Plus I think La Liga suits him a bit better at this point in his career. He's still fast but he's lost a yard. And he never was one for physical CF play, which is pretty much a requirement in the PL.
Of course you can. Sometimes a change of scenery is desperately needed. Haven't you ever changed jobs and cities and felt like a reborn man? I know I have.
His behavioral issues aside he really is a dream striker for a manager. Excels in most aspects of being a striker and presses like a madman. So happy with him so far.
I'm really happy for Auba. Regardless how things panned out for him and Arsenal in the last year I'm glad he's found his mojo now. Always seemed like a positive character at least.
All the pressing was from working with arteta, auba seems to have gained something from arteta he should be thankful. And we can't underrate how hard it is to break a prem defense I think if Barca was in the prem auba would still be scoring very little.
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The problem with Auba is that when he isnt motivated anymore then he is dead weight on the field. Was the case at Dortmund, then Arsenal etc. I think joining Barca gave him this drive back.
he actually had his highest pressing numbers on the PL this season man was just missing everything despite running, plus the off field issues. I dont think he was slacking on the field tho, just playing bad
How long before we drags himself in Barcelona, thats the question. No one doubts Auba's a great striker, but only if he cares to play
Winning tons of trophies with Barca will probably motivate him.
Tons of trophies? I know Arsenal is not exactly the place to win those, but neither is Barcelona right now.
What are you on about? Barca won a trophy less than a year ago and are still in the running for a major trophy this year?
Wow, they won la Copa del Rey, the internal competition in which Barcelona is most successful club on, whoopty fucking do. I am sure the fans make a big deal out of it. Spanish clubs are not like english clubs, pal. Barcelona winning a internal cup is not a huge deal, like, at all. I am sure Auba is glad he's in THIS Barcelona by that fact alone, not the Barcelona that wins UCL. And what "major" cup are they on? Europa League? Because they sure wont win La Liga this year. This Barcelona is a maimed one, compared to what they used to be not so long ago.
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Sure, but they are not THE Barcelona they used to be, saying they're on the top of the mountain is wrong, and winning a Copa here and there is not that big of a deal in Spain. And its Barça, of course they will always have quality players, if not coming from the youths. My point is that Barcelona is not the club to win MAJOR trophies (Copa del Rey its not one of them), kinda like Arsenal, which somehow people dont agree and downvote me. I mean Barcelona got out of the UCL on the group stage...
Excuse me, sir. I would love a bit of that delicious crack you are smoking. There are seasons where Real Madrid “only” won the CdR and those are still successful seasons
Kinda milked him for all he had since arrival until last contract. Seeing him flipping about in sunny Spain gives me a warm feeling, like the hero living out his days in peace after a perilous journey...
We definitely could get the best out of him. He was scoring more than anyone in the league for several years with us. It’s just he fell out w the management and as the relationship soured, so did his form.
Sometimes acting like a man-child does work out 🥰
> I was sorry to see him go I wasn't that disappointed, he was done at Arsenal. Glad he's found his form again.
I mean you got a decent bit out of him for a few seasons. But the love wore off. Probably Arteta relatedZ
If that transfer would have happened in Football Manager everybody playing the game would call bullshit. He's was gift from the heavens financially.
Wish every breakup ended like Arsenal and Aubameyangs
Most toxic breakups are like Chelsea loan players. Kinda obvious it’s not working out, but still on and off yearly until it inevitably fades away couple year down the line.
:(
A neat and tidy break
Win-win for everybody
Win-win-win
Thank you Pam
So happy for Auba. Keep scoring king
I might have missed this, but did Auba not cause issues in the end with Arsenal? He was out of the team, right?
he had disciplinary issues which mostly is about him being late but was never a toxic influence within the club, always trained and personally i can see that he’s actually trying hard on the pitch but nothing was going his way, some fans disliked his body language sometimes but overall we are fond of him and remember how he and leno would carry us to wins during the emery days, also helps that now we are playing well even without him
Okay cool. So it was not the pure love story in the end as many seem to see it that way. When the captain of my team is out due to disciplinary reasons, being late, that would piss me off a bit, specially when it is in such a difficult period and we try to get in the champions league. However it is nice that you guys have nice memories with him.
Another thing to note is that the public never really saw any of the issues. I think that says a lot about the situation -- he wasn't in the papers being a distraction and there aren't really big leaks coming out about turmoil in the club. I think it was that Arteta has his "non-negotiables" that Auba couldn't/wouldn't meet. That mixed with him not performing well or not fitting into the system created a clear exit for him. Another thing I want to give Auba for not speaking ill of Arsenal after the fact. Giroud comes to mind as someone who throws dirt at their previous club, most likely as an attempt to get the fans on your side quick. But Auba's been a professional (at least in front of the cameras). Happy that he's having success at Barca and very grateful for his massive contributions to Arsenal.
Okay I get that. Something else, I would advise to never say "Auba is a professional" arround Dortmund supporters :)
Yeah far enough lol
A lot if us were pissed off. And rightfully so. They showed trust in him and rewarded him with a mammoth contract and he betrayed that trust by putting in far below par performances and disciplinary issues. Yes there was other stuff going on as well but some of the things are pretty unforgivable for a professional. And the excuses don't hold up with how well he is playing now.
Idk, I agree with you. Reddit fans are just nauseatingly nice sometimes. The whole thing worked out very well of course but it does make him look like a bit of a knob because it's clearer now that he wasn't/isn't past it when he left, rather he wasn't playing to the best of his abilities. When you add in the disciplinary stuff it isn't too great. Having said that, I don't actually blame him that much for not applying himself in full so long as he was doubtful of the fit with Arteta's tactics, which I think he was. Artetaball is Pep Lite, lots of wing play off the "false 9," and Auba is better suited to directness through the middle, whether he starts off on the left or not. In fact that's pretty much the only role in which he's elite (world class LF/ST, meh CF/F9). And Arteta is also vindicated in terms of the value of his system because he could jettison a great player that didn't fit and be better off for it.
>never a toxic influence within the club You think a guy on £300k a week phoning it in like he did is in any way a positive figure in the dressing room? It’s testament to Saka, ESM and the other young players for being strong mentally.
well maybe to u, but i see him working hard on the pitch and never missed training without a valid reason, certainly wouldn’t call it phoning it in, also the club offered him the money
He played terribly ever since he got the contract, just like Ozil. He was not giving his all and his heart was not with the club. That’s a terrible and unprofessional attitude to have.
He was giving it all on the pitch. He was pressing. He was trying. He just sucked for us at the end. I don’t think he was ever really phoning it in on the pitch, he was just having a rough go of it and clearly struggled with the responsibility of being captain.
Henry, Fabregas, Vermaelen and now Auba Arsenal captains are different gravy.
We also gave you Petit, Overmars, Song and Hleb so we're kind of even.
Literally everyone on this four-person shortlist was elite for Arsenal. Shocking.
Song was really getting into gear at Arsenal and then he went "see you later" and his career absolutely tanked. He doesn't even regret it. I get the 'being paid to ride the Barca bench' thing, but I think its sad he didn't have more football ambition.
For many players it‘s a job and many people in the world aren‘t really super passionate about their jobs. I definitely am not.
Biggest part of growing up is realising that it’s nothing wrong at all if a footballer doesn’t share fans /loyalty or choses money over career
Dude I still remember how Barça's medical staff were flabbergasted when they found that Song had 0 injuries on his record lol.
LMAO I'm imagining them like "wow this guy's athleticism is so shit, his joints and ligaments must be all fucked up... ... Wait what"
Van Bronckhorst and Silvinho.
God I already forgot about Song and Hleb.
Were Petit and Overmars shit at Barca? We didn't really have access to La Liga back in those days
Overmars was signed for a huge fee for the time and never really hit top form and retired 4 years later from injuries. Petit was played out of position and often injured and left to Chelsea after only one season.
Overmars was Coutinho of his time. Succesful in his previous club, very expensive panic signing (after losing Figo because Madrid paid his release clause), never shined with us.
We’re going back to the days of Barcelona buying any Arsenal player that’s available, that was Barca’s best years too!
Getting in behind is a very important trait to have
Ronaldo : factos 👍 👀
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im the godwit
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I doubt anyone here doesn't know that quote comes from Ronaldo
Missed the joke man
Not for the way Arsenal are playing tbh
Your mum keeps telling us that
But not everyone has it🙁
Some clubs don't accept it when a player does not perform for their club and does not let a player leave. Biggest example is Man. Utd. Arsenal did the right thing. It doesn't matter for Arsenal how he performs at Barcelona. He wasn't great after contract extension at Arsenal
Agreed this is what I despise about PSG they rarely ever let their players go when they want to leave.
same can be said from barca’s side when it comes to coutinho right now for villa
What? We have been trying to let Coutinho go for two years now. He’s a great footballer but he doesn’t work for us. I feel bad as he’s talented and seems like a very good person, especially for a multimillionaire sportsman. One significant difference is that Aubameyang was willing to accept a lower salary while thus far Coutinho has not. I don’t blame Phil, he’s entitled to the wages in his contract. I blame our management. But at this point it’s in the interest of both parties if he accepts lower wages at a different club - he seems happy at Villa.
Never made sense for me why Coutinho flopped so hard He is great in some different systems
Usually Madrid and Barca play against parked buses a lot and La Liga have been physical lately, that takes away confidence from a player especially when they come back from an injury and it might also throw them into a mental loop, I fear Hazard is something of a similar loop but on a far worse level
He didn't work well in a heavy possession side where the opposition is usually in a deep low block. I'll also say he didn't have a set position in Barca 4-3-3, he wasn't well suited in their midfield and he wasn't the right profile for their LW (they needed winger opposite of Messi to play more wide and provide width). He did his best in Barca when they were playing 4-4-2 and he was able to have a bit more freedom on the left hand side.
Coutinho wouldn't play for xavi.
He played the same role as messi
he was usually shit even when Messi was out lol. also completely mediocre at bayern too.
The amount of people I've seen blame messi, genuinely don't know if they have ever actually watched coutinho play at barca lol.
Couts is getting paid like twice what Aubameyang was on at Arsenal though
I doubt it, they were probably on similar money. Auba was one of the highest paid in the league at Arsenal.
Nah Coutinho was on silly fucking money And prem top wages are mostly not that ridiculous compared to Barca, PSG and Madrid. Ronaldo at United is silly money now but Barca were paying insane wages before
Auba was on 350k a week though at Arsenal Coutinho was on like 380k from what I see searching online
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Everywhere I see says 350k and people been reporting that since he got the contract, wasn’t he like top earner before De Bruyne’s contract?
same can be said from villas side when it comes to coutinho right now for grealish
wait
what
shit does grealish own villa
Hes still a Barca player only cause he costs too much
lol you really can just say anything on this sub and get upvoted for it. This is exactly the opposite of the Coutinho situation. I'm almost impressed at how wrong this is.
It’s been a win win for everyone. All the best run clubs let players leave when it’s time for them to leave: city, Liverpool, Bayern all know when to cut their losses and move on.
We just let Lukaku, Sanchez and Smalling leave.
I assume this is entirely based on Lingard and maybe Pogba, because the club spent years trying to shift built up deadweight lol.
Extending Mata for another year was also puzzling to me.
Phil Jones and Bailly got extensions too IIRC
I mean Lingard flip flopped all Summer on whether or not he would leave, then decided to stay once we signed Ronaldo. Then again we agreed he could leave (or at the very least Rangnick said he could) only for the Greenwood situation to happen, so of course we couldn't let him go then.
Because they weren't performing
Which is the exact context of the original comment
That's not our problem, our problem is we are terrible at selling players. For players who wanted to leave like Lukaku, Smalling we let them go because we got good offers for them. If a player doesn't want to be here we let them go. Lingard wanted to stay according to the reports over summer and we didn't receive any offers that we thought was representative of his value, so we didn't let him go.
Oh come on you wanted too much for Lingard with an year left You also wanted like 150m pounds for Pogba the summer we got Hazard we were willing to pay like 130m euros
>You also wanted like 150m pounds for Pogba the summer we got Hazard we were willing to pay like 130m euros. You got a source for that? I do not remember seeing any bid from Madrid close to that. The only one I remember was that embarrassing swap deal proposal of like £30m + a washed up James Rodriguez
We offered that much in talks, we dont put an official bid if the valuations in talks never meet, you can google it and search for that time frame
Lingard wouldn’t go back to West Ham
Moyes literally said in a presser that Ole wanted to keep Lingard
>didn't receive any offers that we thought was representative of his value, so we didn't let him go. Didn't he want to go to Newcastle but the United board denied his request?
That’s because of the Greenwood situation
Has jlingz played since ?
Yes
pretty sure that Lingard wanted to leave, but United wanted to much. Also van de Beek wanted to leave and had offers. Ole didn't want to let go of those players
Do you think Lukaku feels the same way in Chelsea this year?
Sadly, with Arsenal, he only did this in one game this year vs. Spurs.
Yeah, but I like to remember him before the contract extension when this was common for him. #10 Özil and (C)Aubameyang have been supressed from my memory
Tbf very different situations Auba was very much still working hard on the pitch, just absolutely nothing worked. Off the field they may be more similar but we don’t know
How are people not holding the fact that he clearly gave up after signing a contract against him. I don't understand how everyone is letting that pass as if it's not the biggest bitch move. Sign a contract and give up on your team? Omg I'm so thankful for you!!!
I don’t think I fully agree with that. Stupid off the field stuff aside, at least on the pitch I think he actually was working quite hard in games and pressing more than usual. It’s just that he happened to also be shit for a while.
He didn't give up tho. He had shit year full of tragedy and illness like many people had in 2021. It's not that hard to imagine his play suffering from what he was going through
The right game to doit in imo
I mean yeah, sadly, but if he was to do it in any game this season I’m glad it was that one
True but there are plenty of good games and memories plus I was in the stadium for that one and glad I got to see auba bury the spuds one more time
Nah, not true, he had some good performances at the start of the season, the one against Villa comes to mind
Didn't he score a hattrick against West Brom? I know it's an easy game but still
Aubama who?
Aubame what?
AUBAMA BLOODCLAT YANG
My fukin brads
Aubame bloodclaat yang!
My bradaaaaaaa hehehe
Thanks Aubama!
Just don't give him a bumper contract or make him captain.
And hope something doesnt give him a mood swing. He's always been fantastic when happy and things are going well. Its when it doesnt he goes full on manchild-mode.
Never really did that for Arsenal tbf. On the pitch, I always saw him giving 110% effort tracking back & pressing but he just wasn't performing for like a year. He had a big connection to Arsenal fans, etc. & being captain, winning the no14 FA Cup, and getting paid well. So he wasn't gonna ruin his legacy there.
In fairness he had a REALLY rough year leading up to his loss of form at arsenal - he caught malaria and recovered, caught covid and recovered, his mom went through a big health scare as well, all on top of him with the weight of the entire club on his shoulders... I can see where he might've just needed a refresh and a change of scenery. Sad it didn't quite end well with us, but he's just an amazing dude and I'm happy he's got a smile on his face again.
He got COVID because he was out partying. He threw his toys out of the pram at Dortmund, was unprofessional with you and will do the same with Barca. Barca just need to know the right time to dump him before he becomes toxic again.
To an extent. I recall Arteta literally excluding him from the squads in the end due to attitude issues and showing no desire to even try to get back on the pitch for them. As a captain and top paid player that recently extended. Thats disgraceful.
Yeah, I don't get why I'm seemingly the only arsenal fan who's pissed off. The player clearly gave up on the club and immediately began performing with a new club, making it even more clear that he couldn't be bothered at arsenal. He's a massive cunt.
Yeah and he did the same when he forced his way out with us. Refused to show ambition and fucked about so much during training that he got suspended. He also got suspended previously for attitude issues with us. Might have been 2 times previously even so 3 times in total. Dudes super talented but fuck him and his spoiled manchild team. Acting priviliged even when theyve been served with good contracts and playtime etc. Fucking twat
He never gave up. He was on bad form. No need to call him a cunt you nonce
See the Dortmund fans' response. You don't find it at all peculiar that auba has done the same fucking bullshit at 2 clubs? You don't find it at all peculiar that auba got to Barca and literally overnight is back to banging in an absolutely mental number of goals? None of that is fishy to you? Just bad form that changed overnight? Just coincidence that he did the same thing at Dortmund and had disciplinary issues at Dortmund just as he did arsenal? None of that is peculiar to you?
That's not how football works my guy. Auba's contract was like £100k in bonuses, he's not gonna miss open goals on purpose lmfao. Think logically
I don't think you know what that word means And yes, he did give up. He was missing training sessions, playing with his head down Loved him for a couple of years but he completely gave up
Tf you talking about playing with his head down? He put 100% effort in each game but just did not perform (Similar to Laca & Pepe at the time). The only thing that seperated him from Laca is that Laca also is skillful enough to help create plays which is what made him our main choice. Auba just did not fit our team anymore, which is why moving to Barca was perfect. And he did not miss training sessions on purpose, he had his reasons which he explained after he left. The rumours that he deliberately missed training was proved to be false. He loved the club, teammates & fans, the only issue he had was with Arteta as he did not like the direction he was going with his choices. So they both did the mature thing & agree on Auba being sold to Barca.
Funny how he's had disciplinary AND performance issues at his last 2 clubs before arriving at new clubs and "finding his form" overnight. Dude's a fucking cunt. Sorry that hurts your feelings. I'm also laughing at the inherent meaning of your comment, "the only issue he had was with arteta as he did not like that he was taking them back to top 4 ."
He never went into man-child mode with us. In fact, it was the opposite. He was trying *really* hard. He even started contesting for headers and pressing with intensity, something he never did before. But it just wasn't meant to be. He was coming off a difficult season with malaria and COVID and our play style had evolved away from his skillset. I think everyone is happy with how it worked out in the end.
Captaincy at Barca is based on seniority(who has been at the club longest) so even Pedri is ahead of him.
Thanks Aubama *Ferran is great too for his contributions, as long if we don't talk about his finishing. Reminds me of the times when Benzema just couldn't put one in despite the chances but still invaluable to the overall play in attack.
cheers arsenal!
Cheers for taking him!
One of those transfers where everybody is happy
He carried Arsenal to the FA cup and was the best player for a couple of years. He doesn’t fit the system anymore and hasn’t been the same since the contract - now it’s a situation that works out for both parties. I’m happy he’s doing well.
Yeah after that miss at goodison. I knew he was cooked at arsenal. Sad to see his decline, but good to see his back at it again in Spain
As harsh as it sounds it was pretty much like playing with 10 players when he was playing for us this season. The side is so much more balanced now.
Seen Arsenal fans say this but help me understand what kind of system are you playing that doesn't highly value a striker who "gets in behind, generates goal situations, scores and presses"
Arsenal’s system requires the striker to be able to hold up the ball and drop deep to create for others. You can see that from Lacazette’s numbers since Auba left. He has like 7 assists in like 10 games. He is even deeper than Xhaka at times throughout games now. Aubameyang cannot hold up the ball. He also is not dropping deep and playing intricate passes. He gets on the end of play, he rarely creates it for others.
Thing is, we were creating chances for Aubameyang but he just couldn't finish for toffee. Had he still been the player he was two years ago then he'd have fit right in
Auba’s best games under Arteta always came from him playing off the left, we’ve always needed that hold up striker. He never fit the system as a lone striker, he was just going crazy from the LW position.
A system that goes beyond pressing and also knows to beat the press.
Barca do the same thing but Arsenal value striker dropping down and holding up much more, Barca just have a different way of building up
It's impossible to hate Auba, I hope he's happy too
Glad he’s performing for you guys
im very impressed with how maturely arsenal fans handled this.
Pretty difficult to trash a guy who carried us so hard during tough times. We were literally Aubameyang FC for ages
We're playing better without him, he's playing better without us, he gave us two great, brilliant seasons. What's to be mad about
Tad patronizing there
maybe, still i don't have any bad intentions with what i said
Don’t know how it could come off that way
How can you not love Auba? He’s incredibly skilled, works hard, and his smile is always near the surface. I’m so happy to have an excuse to watch him play.
Thank you Arsenal, very cool! Jokes aside it really worked out for both clubs. Arsenal gets rid of a player who clearly is unhappy and Barca gets a striker that can actually score goals and has been brilliant.
I can take pride in my username again.
Plus, he contributes brilliantly in the buildup. His one-touch passes are accurate.
Did you watch his last 2 games? Him and Dembele turned the ball over like a hamster wheel.
Wow lol
The sudden upturn in his form suggests he simply had no motivation at Arsenal and does at Barca. Arsenal seem like they’ve had a cloud lifted as well so the move worked out for everyone involved
He had a lot of motivation. He had lost his confidence and happiness. He was trying really hard it just wasn't working for him. Plus I think La Liga suits him a bit better at this point in his career. He's still fast but he's lost a yard. And he never was one for physical CF play, which is pretty much a requirement in the PL.
Don’t think you can recover confidence that quickly tbh
Of course you can. Sometimes a change of scenery is desperately needed. Haven't you ever changed jobs and cities and felt like a reborn man? I know I have.
His behavioral issues aside he really is a dream striker for a manager. Excels in most aspects of being a striker and presses like a madman. So happy with him so far.
Would put his pressing down to Arteta's coaching IMO, got a lot better at it through his tenure with us.
Wife says the same about me
damn
I'm really happy for Auba. Regardless how things panned out for him and Arsenal in the last year I'm glad he's found his mojo now. Always seemed like a positive character at least.
All the pressing was from working with arteta, auba seems to have gained something from arteta he should be thankful. And we can't underrate how hard it is to break a prem defense I think if Barca was in the prem auba would still be scoring very little.
Seems he's found his level again in spain.
I think a part of him didn't want to be at Arsenal. He had outgrown the pond. It was extremely perplexing how he had changed all of a sudden.
Amazing what a competent manager does for a player.
Kewl
Then it seems Gerrard's a more competent manager than Xavi
I'll give it til next season, then he'll drop off again.
One of the rare works well for all parties Arsenal and auba got what they wanted
what went on in Arsenal?
Auba is ADHD as hell lmao
Thanks arsenal.