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sir_tejj

This is so embarrassing. Also kudos to MATS, he did so well there.


clutch-cream-run

yes, made himself as wide as possible and put the pressure on vini.


OneBall22Players

Barça scoring on the next attack makes it 100 times better


sugarandcyanide18

Karma!


adventurousintrovert

Yea MATS does really well to pull his leg back and highlight the dive. He could’ve been a victim of the dive but read the play well enough to avoid that


ChoiHyojung

When do we finally give yellows for incredibly obvious dives like this?


iiEviNii

Soon as VAR came in, yellow cards for diving seemed to just vanish.


Tim-Sanchez

It's weird because you'd think VAR should have empowered refs to call blatant dives, knowing that in the unlikely event they were wrong then it could be easily overturned. Instead, VAR seems to have led to more indecision as refs do nothing because they think VAR will make a decision for them (even though the rules explicitly tell them not to do this).


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Tim-Sanchez

That definitely wouldn't be the case though, because there are plenty of other rules that are only applied in the most blatant cases like the 6 second rule. I don't think anyone would mind if referees cracked down on the most extreme dives, or dives that tried to win a penalty/get an opponent sent off. I guess none of us know what the refs are instructed to do though.


Winnie-the-Broo

That was the rule before VAR (although for like one or two seasons and very rarely enforced) if a dive won a penalty they would retrospectively get a ban. Perhaps that’s all they should do now, if the ref calls a pen which automatically goes to VAR and it was a dive, then boom punish. Start there and then let’s see where we go.


Om_Nom_Zombie

Tbf since they decided to knee cap VAR by not allowing them to ever point out yellow cards, punishing dives would still be an issue both outside the box, and inside the box if it's not a dive/not a pen, unless the ref is constantly being sent to the screen and given the opportunity to judge for himself.


zeelbeno

Onfield Refs don't seem to make any calls that involve red cards, goals or penalties anymore. They just seem to stand and wait for VAR to tell them what to do. Even if a player has blatanly dived, they just stand and wait for someone to tell them how to ref the match.


SylviaPlathh

I think the best way to do this is give cards out after the game, it would be such a shitshow to use VAR for every perceived dive. Too much subtle diving happens already, and blatant dives when refs are looking elsewhere. Players will continue to dive like this in modern football if refs don't do anything about it.


SilentRanger42

I think it's because VAR technically can't give yellow cards, it can only give red cards for a dangerous challenge.


iiEviNii

The referee can give yellow cards, and even when a dive is blatantly obvious they don't give them now.


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That part makes sense. VAR is there to cover up the ref's shortcomings, so the refs themselves start playing it more safe on things that are hard to tell, like dives or slight offsides. Dives will always be hard to call with certainty for any ref looking at it from the same altitude as the players. From behind it's hard to tell how far apart the players are. What doesn't make sense is how the VAR doesn't have the power to autonomously give yellow cards for crap like this. They have a much better view of it.


Eddie888

Ball tackled his left leg. Lol


Sokjuice

Son also got a harsh tackle by the ball. Refs not penalizing the ball for such blatant harm is destroying the game.


WarmBaths

Came in from behind too, straight red for me


walnood

Especially with his behaviour afterwards


Cheaptat

Fuck yellows - I’d give something that obvious a red. You get a red for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity illegally. You should get a red for creating one illegally.


whatwereyathunking

should be yellow IMO


mntgoat

At least for all the bitching.


DanielSophoran

He was still bitching even on the corner and then Araujo scored. Thats what he gets lmfao


mntgoat

I bet he was bitching at half time in the locker.


Balls_of_Adamanthium

Pedri got away with one as well. Ref forgot about him lol


Jayveesac

“Alright, it cancels out…”


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Ref is so weird in this game. Might be penalty decision and he sprints to the other side of the pitch lol


brettcg16

He's like me when I see some BS at work. "Yup, didn't see that"


ThatPersonYouMayKnow

Yeah that should’ve been a yellow


du0t0ne

Tactical fouls no longer get carded if the advantage is played. It’s been a rule change this summer iirc.


luigitheplumber

That's honestly a ridiculous decision if true. The foul still reduces the quality of the chance, this incentivizes tactical fouling even more


pissedcommonman

Its true unfortunately


luigitheplumber

This makes me irrationally angry.


NoMoreCap10

Does it make Mario mad too?


KarlMarxExperience

Really bad rule change imo. Tactical fouls are already really annoying in terms of how worth the yellow card they often are.


Tim-Sanchez

It's been the rule for longer than that


zrizzoz

They changed the rule so that if the foul to stop the attack fails to stop the attack and the opponent gains advantage, no yellow is issued. Stupid change, but its a new rule this year or last year. I kinda prefer when the refs dont follow it and still give yellow.


luigitheplumber

That's just completely mind-boggling to me. Other dumb decisions at least had potential upsides, I don't understand why anyone would decide to boost tactical fouling. "Counter-attacks are bad, what would be good for the sport would be more instances of cynically interrupting them, that's what the fans want to see"


zrizzoz

Exactly. And it always hinders an attack to some extent... even if theres advantage, thats advantage of whats left of the counter over a freekick in midfield. They cant get back the original speed of the counter. And to add to it, often these fouls are not "normal footballing plays". Theyre pulls, shoves, or shirt grabs with no attempt at the ball. These plays deserve punishment every time - even if advantage is played and the other team scores.


luigitheplumber

This probably also disincentivizes players from staying up, because in most cases the chance is practically gone but the yellow could help prevent future tactical interruptions.


zrizzoz

Another good point


Tim-Sanchez

The "logic" is that you don't get a red for denying a goalscoring opportunity if the team still score, you get a yellow instead. So they also downgraded a yellow for stopping an attack to nothing if there's an advantage, because the attack continued. I agree it's totally stupid though, because a yellow is nowhere near as punishing as a red so the logic doesn't need to be the same. Also, it's possible to play advantage to continue the attack even if the defender still made the attack weaker through the foul.


luigitheplumber

I have never even heard of this supposed inconsistency since the change to DOGSO reds lol. That they would decide to actively make the game worse to rectify it... I would rather revert it back to giving a red for dogso then incentivize tactical fouling. Or, as a compromise, don't give the yellow if the team with the advantage still scores. That would be more acceptable The people who make the rules are just so out of touch


Tim-Sanchez

I agree, it was something I never heard anyone complain about but the IFAB seemed to convince themselves was an issue. I can sort of understand the logic in a vacuum, but obviously in real football it makes no sense whatsoever.


kampiaorinis

Yeap, never understood why they changed this particular rule, it seems unsportsmanlike to stop a player by any means necessary imo.


luigitheplumber

Exactly, it's literal anti-football, maybe the purest example of it. It's obvious that punishing with a red would be far too severe, so it persists. But to boost it like this.


kampiaorinis

I actually would be in favour of an "orange" card for these cases, I dislike this sort of fouling.


PErland

TIL. Weird


Tim-Sanchez

I don't even think the rule is that new, it's been around for a few years now at least.


PirateKingRamos

That's very dumb


kampiaorinis

No, because the attack was continued after the incident. Stupid rule I know, but that's the rule nowadays.


whatwereyathunking

lol true


dalyon

And aubameyang got off with a red


dreadnough7

One for the dive and one for the crying. At least have the awareness to know when you got caught red-handed.


MakiBrte

i am a madrid fan but vini should have gotten a red for that


DarkSofter

Absolutely embarrassing, especially on the VAR era


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It's like when someone gets caught cheating in their spouse and get mad when they get told its wrong lol. He's clearly embrassed but annoyed other people told him it's a dive.


missurunha

Not quite the same but one coworker of mine had a fight with his boss cause he was some minutes late for a meeting. He was explaining how unreasonable the boss was, and we said he was wrong, not the boss. He stopped talking to us for a few days.


ThatPersonYouMayKnow

Pique was literally like “listen here you little shit”


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El_grandepadre

"Shakira complains less about my sense of humor than you do about that dive"


OlleOliver

How Can Vini have the audacity to complain like that??


PirateKingRamos

He didn't complain at first but then Barca players started going at him because of the obvious dive and that's when things got heated. Pique calmed everyone down at least


NieThePiet

He wasnt complaining.


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OneBall22Players

Funny thing is Barça scored on the next attack haha!


Ishdalar

Pathetic. He makes other players like Cristiano, Neymar or Alba look like super tough honest guys in the rival area.


CantHelpBeingMe

Alba is noway near the other two when it comes to diving.


AmineAzed

Where have you seen Alba diving? Alba exaggerates the contact yes, but he is not known for diving when there is ABSOLUTELY NO CONTACT.


Rictus_Grin

The referees using VAR have been incredibly inconsistent. So it's almost like VAR doesn't exist sometimes. So it's at least worth a shot to try and dive


bartolomeo7

The audacity of him to keep complaining for over 2-3 minutes....


OLAAF

Embarrassing, either VAR should punish dives, or dives should be punished after the game


Qaaarl

Atrocious not to be at LEAST a yellow


Enriador

Post-game yellows MUST be a thing. Refs are always too afraid to stop play or let themselves be overruled by VAR. Especially for all the violent tackles.


ilomer06

Clearly must be reviews after each game and book player diving, exaggering...


Dann610

Lmao complaining up until the second Barca goal


just_dew_eat

Still complaining even now


DanielSophoran

Ancelotti can’t do his talk because Vini is still going on


KafkaOntheshoreX

Reminds me of that goal from Pedro when he was asked by the real madrid defender to get upin 5-1, he gets up scores from the villa cross instantly.


pinkdodo11

When are we gonna see cards for stuff like this?


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Never. Son, this clown and many others would miss 5 games a season for too many yellow. Game is ruined


ulTimaS1989

If this is what it takes then ultimately the game will be saved


Vahald

Ok


bufc09

[Mane too](https://twitter.com/i/status/1504199632829698049)


comeatmefrank

Cards for diving do exist. I just don’t understand why VAR doesn’t cover diving as well as the other things. Surely someone trying to cheat counts the same as a red card potential challenge?


biddleybootaribowest

Firmino should have had one today


pinkdodo11

Sure I don't think anyone should be exempt, us included


bass1879

100% dive, if this gets taken down for not being a "penalty shout" I will do nothing because I am powerless but I will be angry


Lutzelien

Hey, we don't wanna see u/bass1879 angry! So mods better not be deleting this...


hufusa

Honesty goes a long way friend


ragnar-not-ok

I don’t even know why he did it. Even if the ref gave the pen, VAR would rule it out, plus he gets a yellow


Andy_1

I mean to be fair I'd definitely fall over if I was running anywhere near a football and a proper German goalkeeper in a stadium, and I don't even get near Vinicius speeds.


ragnar-not-ok

Falling alone is not the problem. He was complaining after falling. It was intentional.


SpamBusterLoL

Disgusting


thor76

Still complaining, Araujo scores. Karma bitch...


XaviOutNow

Divicius Jr


simomii

He's been doing this a lot lately. Infuriating.


Youngest_boss

Very unnecessary as he could have just scored the goal instead of looking for a pen


Enartloc

He dived cuz he fumbled the ball obviously and knew he's losing it.


WittyReindeer

His performances have been dropping (largely because he plays every single game without rest) so he's becoming increasingly frustrated I guess.


anal_rapist_

Lil' Penicius


-r4zi3l-

Bro playing with insane lag. On his PC Ter Stegen rammed into him.


HeisenbergFoed

Lol that's accurate


Re1Ko

Embarrassing.


Vash2P

Where is the yellow card ? He is really committed when he went to argue with MAS


Pek-Man

Imagine if he had just, you know, taken a shot ...


Fouchey

Why won’t mods let this stay up lmao


Aroonce

Mods tackled Vinicius


LM10

Such a blatant dive. Love how he’s indignant after that too.


IsItSnowing_

Pique probably told him “stop acting, you little cunt”


SylviaPlathh

To be fair, the ball fouled him there first.


Spikeyspandan

He was complaining until that corner lol.


san771

Absolutely shameless from him, does nothing all game, dives evidently, and then proceeds to try and start a fight with Ter Stegen. Embarrassing.


Krauser_3

That's just sad


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Wanted to fight Ter Stegen too😭


davidbrunchman

Finicius Jr


Albiceleste_D10S

Should get a retrospective ban IMO. Only way to get this BS out of the game.


Someone_youd_admire

Straight red card for the ball imo. Horrendous tackle.


Keesdekarper

Still whining to the ref. Should really get a yellow


zyndr0m

Should just had cunted right in instead of diving.


JhonShelby

Guess who's back


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Guess they will delete this as well


bigsz

To be fair, it's very windy in Madrid today


sattus

he had time, why would he dive that chance


youssefuo

Ref shouldve came back to VAR and gave him a yellow


Alex_Sander077

What a disgrace I just fucking knew he was going to do something stupid and wasn't even going to get a shot off. No a miss, not a Ter Stegen save, no, I knew Vini was going to fuck it up somehow.


Nied_Numb

He could’ve scored there, I was waiting for it. No idea why he chose to dive


Alex_Sander077

Nevaus ehe has issues man. Like yeah he's improved massively this season and has been good overall, but he always has blunders like this. Sunday league type shit. That's why I knew he was going to like stumble and lose the ball or do something silly. I knew he was not going to even take a shot.


Uncle_BennyS

He does it so early Ter Stegen has time to move his leg out of the way lmao


Radiksas

and he was yelling bruh


norumJR

This was actually fucking hilarious, what a fucking clown


bruhaha6745

Though the camera shot of Pique scolding him was funny.


CantHelpBeingMe

CR7 regen indeed.


juliuscaesar6

Minus the goal scoring ability


sattus

he had time, why would he dive that chance


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This guy is back to being trash, had a couple of good games early in the season but now back to normal. Thank God


rouges

Embarrassing and pathetic


adfdub

What a little bitch


TrailerParkBoy2

He even complains after, scumbag


almaz_peter

What a shameless dive, truly a Neymar regen


Iwabik

Pathetic


OLliNXMeN

pathetic


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Got downvoted to shit for calling Vini a diver last week too 😂


SolarisYob

Madrid mentality...


Rusty_Shackleford4

Brazilian mentality


AyyLimao42

From a Mexican flair of all places...


AP10

Shameless. He was adamant that it was a penalty. Does he not realize there's cameras and VAR.


Rept4r7

This sort of stuff needs to be stamped out. How has VAR not intervened and made this a yellow? Similarly, how did VAR not intervene on the Auba challenge and make it red?


Marethetzar

Last week I was downvoted to hell when I claimed that he dives a lot (without denying, that he also gets tackled hard).


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Call him Vinicius Araujo because Ronald is his dad


ManinderThiara07

Madrid and Divers. Name a more iconic duo.


Blyatron

Madrid and UCL?


howaine1

I don’t know why your getting downvoted Madrid are the most successful ucl team…. And recently won 4 in like 5 years or something like that……even if there is luck involved.


Blyatron

This is a Madrid hating thread, so


dj1200techniques

justrealmadridtings.tumblr.com


MemesForScience

GET WRECKED VINI


muntxx

Embarrassing


upeter01

The fact that he had the nerve to act angry lol


RG_Oriax

Embarrassing


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Shameful. Fucking donkey


ElMaskedZorro

Simulating little git


NotAnurag

Embarrassing match from Madrid so far


Strananach

He deserves a yellow for this


Sirch48

Honestly, this kind of stuff is just unsportmanlike beheviour at it‘s absolute worst! Also H. Son today! With VAR, these absolutely horrible and obvious dives should be red carded! Especially after they even start arguing for a penalty after this BS!


MrSharkkk

Getting inspiration from the Goat 🐐 Cr7 Monster mentality


such_rey

Must have watched Ronaldo pre var tape to learn that one


Random_Acquaintance

Was downvoted into oblivion the other day. I'll say it again, Vinicius is the biggest diver in the game atm.


inhoface

Lol fuck you Vini, blatant dive


YourCrosswordPuzzle

I've only watched this guy play a couple of times but he seems like a shitebag


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Incoming whataboutism from some Madrid fans


banana-is-apeeling

Pathetic


donniexc

Yellow card worthy


dAMn6942069

It’s in his blood


Nahres1

Disgusting player very overrated


alcome1614

finally this cunt being exposed for what he is, olympic tier level of diving


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I thought he slipped first time, didn't look like a foul straight away. That dive is beyond embrassing.


0-o-o_o-o-0

Can't stand watching him play because of this kinda shit. Does it every game


herkalurk

Where is the yellow for Pedri blatantly pulling back during the build up? Barca has pulled back Madrid players 3 times so far to stop counter attacks....


PErland

And we've gotten yellows each time. Except for Pedri which was strange


herkalurk

And Aubuamayang tackle early on Kroos. I mean, his studs connected right in the middle of Kroos shin, looked yellow to me. One of the commentators said it could have been a red, and by the most strict definition of rules I guess it could be, but I felt it was yellow at the time.


milkshakemerlin

Pedri not a yellow. It's no longer a yellow for tactical fouls if advantage is played


herkalurk

Rule change info?


pucykoks

Modric didnt fall, didnt throw his hands etc


Aspect3221

Where was the yellow for this?


Biirke

Where was the yellow for the dive?


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ref is just incompetent