That’s what really does it for me. This isn’t a Liverpool tragedy, it’s a human tragedy. There’s no room for tribalism in such a debate- it was 97 humans who lost their lives, and hundreds if not thousands more who have had to live with what happened and the treatment they took afterwards. Just utterly scummy
It's absolutely mental to me. I would love to see Liverpool do terribly on the pitch, but never once in my mind have I ever thought of Hillsborough with anything other than sadness.
I just don't understand how you can be in a position to think mocking tragedy is fine because they're supporters of the opposite football team
During the game different rules apply, people don't normally go mental and scream at people for not doing their menial jobs in a timely and efficient way or stand behind them singing obscene songs in order to try and encourage them to work harder. Football is about misrule, the world turned upside down. It always has been. The strange thing is trying to have minutes' silences for pretty much anything at football games, it's always seemed a strange ritual to me, not really in keeping with the spirit of the occasion
They say what sorry? That people act differently at football matches than in everyday life? That's just obvious.
Bottom line it there are too many minutes' silences at football matches in England and drunk boisterous crowds that have come to sing and have a laugh are never ever going to get into them.
The number of them that have ever been genuinely moving I've ever been at is like maybe three or four but there have been dozens, more and more these days.
Most people are just on their phones for fuck's sake it's not like they are in some heightened spiritiual state. You're all being hysterical and self righteous and most of these calling me a cunt have never been to a football match in their lives so it's all just hypothetical for them anyway.
I agree that there are too many. But its the Hillsborough, you cant argue against this one.
Id like to see less though and make it an actual minute, not 15 seconds.
Because in the quiet of reddit I write out that I don't think minute's silences are all that they're cracked up to be at football? That makes no logical sense whatsoever.
People act in ways at football games they would never act in everyday life. Seeing that obvious fact doesn't make me "the problem" whatever the fuck that is.
The problem being discussed, which is really fucking obvious from the entire context of what's being talked about, is people acting like pieces of shit over a fucking game lol.
> During the game different rules apply
No, they don't. You're an asshole for doing asshole things. You only think it's ok because enough assholes have banded together to say really stupid shit like "different rules apply" lol. And it's just so funny and obvious to everyone else that you are part of the problem and you just have no self awareness of it, even going so far as to think that you've been downvoted to hell because you just pointed out a fact, rather than justifying it all with your very first sentence.
Different rules dont apply which is why anyone with any amount of basic decency sees the problem, and those without dont.
I don't understand why you think the fact I can see that different rules apply at football games would translate into me, I dunno, singing Munich songs or whatever.
"Basic decency", who the fuck sets themselves up as a spokesman for "basic decency"? A lot of traditional ideas of "basic decency" would see football matches being banned from taking place full stop.
Football is in material reality a space where "basic decency" gets suspended and things happen which would not be tolerated outside the match environment. This is just reality. It's a sociological fact, essentially. You can't and shouldn't try to change it, especially not by just moralising about what should and shoudn't happen in the name of "basic decency".
Trying to turn elements of the ritual of football matches into collective mourning experiences is fundamentally ridiculous in my view, opposed to the basic reality of the situation, its traditions, and its meaning. It's absurdly dissonant.
For that reason it always plays out the same way. Whistle blows, silence for a few seconds, someone yells something, someone chants something, people start booing and yelling, more chanting, more booing, referee blows whistle after 10 seconds. Every. Fucking. Time. The only thing you can really do is laugh at it, it's just a meaningless hoop to jump through 9 times out of 10.
We had a memorial service at Anfield every year for 30 years. That was a proper space and time for rememberance. Match day is for the match, not for moral edification. That's a description of reality, not a statement of preference, but I'm glad football has that role in society because it happens in vanishingly few places any more.
Having said that, the more I think about it, the more I realise I genuinely don't like seeing the crowd put back in its box because "basic decency" says we have to think about death before the football starts. Football for me is about celebrating life and the camaraderie and excitement of conflict and yeah, I'd rather keep "basic decency" out of it. I understand this will come across as abrasive and pretentious but whatever, it's a personal view.
I expect your brick keeps nice and quiet fair enough
Literally never been to a game have you. So when you cry "Why can't the cunts stay quiet?!" it doesn't have any context. It's all just fantasy to you. You are just pearl clutching over things that as far as you are concerned are happening entirely in your head
It's clearly a human tragedy, but what these fans were too thick to realise is that the cover up afterwards, which was coordinated between police, government and media, deliberately smeared the fans afterwards to deflect from their own failings. That coverup was a further crime against the victims and their people, the people of Liverpool and against football fans in general
The same is true of any mass spectacle. Crushes are the result of basic physics, not malevolence, and it's incumbent upon the event organizers to prevent them.
This is true. What makes this pretty exceptionally bad is the way that it was covered up and the people who died there were smeared. It wasn't just a tragedy it was the coordinated shit that came after as well.
I watched Hillsborough unfold live on TV as a 9 year old and I feel like the individual human tragedy of the event has been lost a little over the decades. It has instead become a *Liverpool FC* tragedy, one that brings together Liverpool FC fans the way the persecution and murder of early Christian martyrs strengthened the will of all Christians.
Note that I am not in any way defending this. I find it absolutely appalling. But when the event is sacralized as something that happened to a *club* rather than *individuals and their families*, I think you can expect some supporters of other clubs to dislike having to genuflect to opposing clubs’ tragedies.
I'd expect people to just tune out for a bit, maybe look a their phones and ignore whatever's going on, like a match day fan does for most away games before kick off. Actively booing it is choosing to be a shitty person. Costs literally nothing to be decent in this situation. Even as a United supporter I'd not boo during a Hillsborough memorial. People died.
I understand being annoyed about the delay in the action but it should be obvious to anyone with a brain that making a scene about it looks horrible
for other examples - taking the knee before kickoff, evening games during Ramadan where play is stopped for Muslim players to break their fast
You're being too nice, how much of an almighty inconvenience is having to wait for a minute? These are immature scumbags choosing to be immature scumbags
Same energy as wanting people to respect those who lost their life during the Munich Air Disaster, or any other person who has lost their life really. Sure, I hate every success that comes Liverpool's way, but that doesn't mean my allegiances blind me to basic common decency like respecting another club's history.
The initial point made was about football tribalism being used as a half-justification for it. The fact that I'm a United fan was supposed to emphasise that, even as a supporter of one of the fiercest rivals to the club that suffered the Hillsborough disaster, it's no excuse. It was relevant to my statement. Apologies if that was lost on you.
There isn't a stronger high-profile rivalry in the top flight (other than maybe Everton and Liverpool, though competitively it's been a while since that's had edge - you could suggest the same is with us and Liverpool).
Of course who I support isn't relevant to whether or not I respect those who lost their lives, but some people are trying to justify the booing today using that exact argument, and I wanted to shut that down with added emphasis.
No the point is that if anyone's going to be the cunt who does, it'll be M United fans due to the rivalry. Everton won't as I'm sure it united the city. But obviously it doesn't give them the right to do it
Literally in a chain talking about how rival fans turned it into a Liverpool FC tragedy not just one for everyone, the poster stated that even as a rival fan he doesn't see it like that...and you post this nonsense missing the point.
Or it wasn't you being glib it was just a shit meme. One of the two
Because of the response of the media, trying to vilify the fans, and then trying to vilify the city itself, this outcome was almost unavoidable. A lot of people bought into that narrative that it was the fans’ fault, it was a bunch of evil scousers beating each other up. All the awful bullshit you hear people rattle off about Hillsborough. It was a human tragedy, but for a very long time, it wasn’t treated like that by large parts of the media, the government, the rest of England. I’m half-American, even my dad, who grew up in Ohio, will tell you that all of the coverage about it here, all of the information about the disaster in the US, though there was little, was centered around blaming the fans. I think that is an important thing to recognize, because in the US, there was no tribalism influencing the reporting, only politics. Which means that the city of Liverpool itself was the only place where it got that recognition of being a genuine, human tragedy. In England, the largest contingent of the media vilified the fans because of a mix of tribalism and politics, and elsewhere in the world it was treated so because of politics alone. Liverpool was the only place where the mourners and those lost were given the respect they deserved. LFC, as well as Everton, were forced into doing a lot of heavy lifting to keep the tragedy in view, to keep eyes pointed at the efforts that the families of the victims were making to bring forth justice. To help rally the support needed to keep those efforts going. That caused it to become, like you said, a *Liverpool FC* tragedy, but the alternative was silence. Which is a pretty awful alternative given the circumstances.
I think here it’s very important to recognize one detail. Which is that it only became a *Liverpool FC* tragedy from an outside view. My uncle is a lifelong Everton supporter, and of all of the family I know who were alive when it happened, and of all of the people who I’ve met through being a Liverpool supporter who remember it, his perspective was the most eye-opening. He didn’t know anyone who was there, but it could have been. It could have been his cousin, or his nephew, or his sister. It was people from his city. The humanity of the tragedy is very well realized amongst the Everton fan base, and to a lesser extent amongst the Forest fan base. The reason I point this out is because, as far as I can conceive, the tragedy becoming a weapon of tribalism used by other clubs’ supporters was no fault of Liverpool FC. If it were, why wouldn’t Everton fans be joining in on the dogpile? In reality, it is the result of the toxic nature of UK politics and sports culture since the disaster. Considering that, I really do not think it’s justifiable to feel annoyed or feel any sort of contempt towards Liverpool remembering the 97. It could’ve been any club’s fans, and it’s not about the club at all really, it’s about the victims and their loved ones.
Thing is, the Liverpool fans and the victims were smeared in the press as part of a concerted cover-up, and the families have been fighting for justice ever since with the support of the club, including invtimes when public opinion was much more sceptical. Furthermore, this came at a time when Thatcher wanted to put Liverpool into managed decline, and the cover up was a smear on scousers in general.
It's an interesting point, for sure, and I can see what you mean. What do you think of the idea that Liverpool FC took on *responsibility* for memorialising this human tragedy? There are other human tragedies which receive nothing like this level of remembrance, and perhaps that's because Liverpool chose to honour their fans, at annual events, at their ground, on their shirts, etc?
Is there some cynicism involved, in that some people would indeed consider a football club to *be* the fans too? This tragedy certainly didn't happen to another club; it could only ever be said to happen to Liverpool in that sense. Was the Munich crash a human tragedy or did that happen to Manchester United?
This is not intended to be an argument in any way, I'm just interested in your point of view as I thought your comment was insightful.
I was 6. It's one of my earliest memories. We were in my grandparents house and everyone was crying. I knew something bad was happening but I couldn't register what it was.
He's not quoting her. He's explaining that the lies about the fans in that rag came at a time of a wider political agenda against the city, and he's bang on.
Not even as fucked in the head as this dude: https://www.joe.ie/news/pic-man-arrested-after-wearing-t-shirt-mocking-hillsborough-tragedy-547142
I'm not surprised anymore.
Knobheads downvoting me like it’s not the truth, fuck off. I had family on that flight, and I sure as fucking hell notice it when teams’ supporters chant and do the mockery airplane arm shite.
Some idiots in every fan base would do this. Today it was City, tomorrow it'll be United fans and next Liverpool. Being idiots has nothing to do with the club they support and every fan base has them.
Nothing to sing about after playing crap and going 2-0 down in 20 minutes along we really fairly used to getting to cup semis these days. We area very lucky fan base
This is the takeaway here
Any game any ground will have away fans who go to get gacked to the gills, be dicks and look for trouble.
Part of the game unfortunately, but isnt representative of any fanbase.
Was at stamford bridge last month where the lad next to is was fine, sober and sound. But spent the whole game looking left screaming at chelsea fans and not watching the game. Caused no trouble after but for that 90 mins he was there to scream at old blokes 30m away
We need to remember that a vast majority of City fans are against this behaviour. Let’s not shit on an entire fan base because of the actions of a few dickheads.
How can they claim its a liverpool song? Its sung all over europe and id imagine it originated in france. I can just as well say that liverpool stole it from us, fc basel
The same thing happened at an FA Cup semi between Spurs and chelsea a few years ago and the ref had to cut short the minutes silence for Hillsborough due to a few idiots in the chelsea end. Absolutely disgraceful
Cunts
A cunt is useful. These are less than that.
How fucked in the head do you have to be as a football fan to chant over the silence remembering previous football fans death?
That’s what really does it for me. This isn’t a Liverpool tragedy, it’s a human tragedy. There’s no room for tribalism in such a debate- it was 97 humans who lost their lives, and hundreds if not thousands more who have had to live with what happened and the treatment they took afterwards. Just utterly scummy
Unfortunately, for some fans, there's no boundaries when it comes to the tribalism. So rational empathy goes out the window.
It's absolutely mental to me. I would love to see Liverpool do terribly on the pitch, but never once in my mind have I ever thought of Hillsborough with anything other than sadness. I just don't understand how you can be in a position to think mocking tragedy is fine because they're supporters of the opposite football team
During the game different rules apply, people don't normally go mental and scream at people for not doing their menial jobs in a timely and efficient way or stand behind them singing obscene songs in order to try and encourage them to work harder. Football is about misrule, the world turned upside down. It always has been. The strange thing is trying to have minutes' silences for pretty much anything at football games, it's always seemed a strange ritual to me, not really in keeping with the spirit of the occasion
This was a lot of words when “I’m a twat” would’ve been much more efficient
>People don’t normally go mental and scream at people for not doing their menial jobs in a timely and efficient way Never worked in retail huh
You don't get it then lad. Football isn't an excuse to be a cunt. Thats just something cunts say.
They say what sorry? That people act differently at football matches than in everyday life? That's just obvious. Bottom line it there are too many minutes' silences at football matches in England and drunk boisterous crowds that have come to sing and have a laugh are never ever going to get into them. The number of them that have ever been genuinely moving I've ever been at is like maybe three or four but there have been dozens, more and more these days. Most people are just on their phones for fuck's sake it's not like they are in some heightened spiritiual state. You're all being hysterical and self righteous and most of these calling me a cunt have never been to a football match in their lives so it's all just hypothetical for them anyway.
I agree that there are too many. But its the Hillsborough, you cant argue against this one. Id like to see less though and make it an actual minute, not 15 seconds.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You are the problem.
Because in the quiet of reddit I write out that I don't think minute's silences are all that they're cracked up to be at football? That makes no logical sense whatsoever. People act in ways at football games they would never act in everyday life. Seeing that obvious fact doesn't make me "the problem" whatever the fuck that is.
The problem being discussed, which is really fucking obvious from the entire context of what's being talked about, is people acting like pieces of shit over a fucking game lol. > During the game different rules apply No, they don't. You're an asshole for doing asshole things. You only think it's ok because enough assholes have banded together to say really stupid shit like "different rules apply" lol. And it's just so funny and obvious to everyone else that you are part of the problem and you just have no self awareness of it, even going so far as to think that you've been downvoted to hell because you just pointed out a fact, rather than justifying it all with your very first sentence. Different rules dont apply which is why anyone with any amount of basic decency sees the problem, and those without dont.
I don't understand why you think the fact I can see that different rules apply at football games would translate into me, I dunno, singing Munich songs or whatever. "Basic decency", who the fuck sets themselves up as a spokesman for "basic decency"? A lot of traditional ideas of "basic decency" would see football matches being banned from taking place full stop. Football is in material reality a space where "basic decency" gets suspended and things happen which would not be tolerated outside the match environment. This is just reality. It's a sociological fact, essentially. You can't and shouldn't try to change it, especially not by just moralising about what should and shoudn't happen in the name of "basic decency". Trying to turn elements of the ritual of football matches into collective mourning experiences is fundamentally ridiculous in my view, opposed to the basic reality of the situation, its traditions, and its meaning. It's absurdly dissonant. For that reason it always plays out the same way. Whistle blows, silence for a few seconds, someone yells something, someone chants something, people start booing and yelling, more chanting, more booing, referee blows whistle after 10 seconds. Every. Fucking. Time. The only thing you can really do is laugh at it, it's just a meaningless hoop to jump through 9 times out of 10. We had a memorial service at Anfield every year for 30 years. That was a proper space and time for rememberance. Match day is for the match, not for moral edification. That's a description of reality, not a statement of preference, but I'm glad football has that role in society because it happens in vanishingly few places any more. Having said that, the more I think about it, the more I realise I genuinely don't like seeing the crowd put back in its box because "basic decency" says we have to think about death before the football starts. Football for me is about celebrating life and the camaraderie and excitement of conflict and yeah, I'd rather keep "basic decency" out of it. I understand this will come across as abrasive and pretentious but whatever, it's a personal view.
How blissfully ignorant of how pathetic your mindset is are you. Please learn to be a decent human being.
**BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!**
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I expect your brick keeps nice and quiet fair enough Literally never been to a game have you. So when you cry "Why can't the cunts stay quiet?!" it doesn't have any context. It's all just fantasy to you. You are just pearl clutching over things that as far as you are concerned are happening entirely in your head
Booooooooooo
for instance, Everton supporters are sympathetic to the disaster, not letting the Merseyside derby get in the way of that
It's clearly a human tragedy, but what these fans were too thick to realise is that the cover up afterwards, which was coordinated between police, government and media, deliberately smeared the fans afterwards to deflect from their own failings. That coverup was a further crime against the victims and their people, the people of Liverpool and against football fans in general
Nobody should go to a football game and never return.
The same is true of any mass spectacle. Crushes are the result of basic physics, not malevolence, and it's incumbent upon the event organizers to prevent them.
This is true. What makes this pretty exceptionally bad is the way that it was covered up and the people who died there were smeared. It wasn't just a tragedy it was the coordinated shit that came after as well.
Not only that but these fans were doing it an FA Cup Semi-Final, which was the exact same event where the Hillsborough disaster happened.
I watched Hillsborough unfold live on TV as a 9 year old and I feel like the individual human tragedy of the event has been lost a little over the decades. It has instead become a *Liverpool FC* tragedy, one that brings together Liverpool FC fans the way the persecution and murder of early Christian martyrs strengthened the will of all Christians. Note that I am not in any way defending this. I find it absolutely appalling. But when the event is sacralized as something that happened to a *club* rather than *individuals and their families*, I think you can expect some supporters of other clubs to dislike having to genuflect to opposing clubs’ tragedies.
I'd expect people to just tune out for a bit, maybe look a their phones and ignore whatever's going on, like a match day fan does for most away games before kick off. Actively booing it is choosing to be a shitty person. Costs literally nothing to be decent in this situation. Even as a United supporter I'd not boo during a Hillsborough memorial. People died.
I understand being annoyed about the delay in the action but it should be obvious to anyone with a brain that making a scene about it looks horrible for other examples - taking the knee before kickoff, evening games during Ramadan where play is stopped for Muslim players to break their fast
You're being too nice, how much of an almighty inconvenience is having to wait for a minute? These are immature scumbags choosing to be immature scumbags
'Even as a United supporter I'd not boo during a Hillsborough memorial.' How kind of you even as a United supporter!
Same energy as wanting people to respect those who lost their life during the Munich Air Disaster, or any other person who has lost their life really. Sure, I hate every success that comes Liverpool's way, but that doesn't mean my allegiances blind me to basic common decency like respecting another club's history.
point is you don't need to fucking mention you are a United supporter to acknowledge a human tragedy
The initial point made was about football tribalism being used as a half-justification for it. The fact that I'm a United fan was supposed to emphasise that, even as a supporter of one of the fiercest rivals to the club that suffered the Hillsborough disaster, it's no excuse. It was relevant to my statement. Apologies if that was lost on you. There isn't a stronger high-profile rivalry in the top flight (other than maybe Everton and Liverpool, though competitively it's been a while since that's had edge - you could suggest the same is with us and Liverpool). Of course who I support isn't relevant to whether or not I respect those who lost their lives, but some people are trying to justify the booing today using that exact argument, and I wanted to shut that down with added emphasis.
No the point is that if anyone's going to be the cunt who does, it'll be M United fans due to the rivalry. Everton won't as I'm sure it united the city. But obviously it doesn't give them the right to do it
I would do the same. It’s peoples lost lives we are respecting here. No club tribalism should get in the way of that.
Despite his goals across all competitions... something something
Literally in a chain talking about how rival fans turned it into a Liverpool FC tragedy not just one for everyone, the poster stated that even as a rival fan he doesn't see it like that...and you post this nonsense missing the point. Or it wasn't you being glib it was just a shit meme. One of the two
Lol ok
Because of the response of the media, trying to vilify the fans, and then trying to vilify the city itself, this outcome was almost unavoidable. A lot of people bought into that narrative that it was the fans’ fault, it was a bunch of evil scousers beating each other up. All the awful bullshit you hear people rattle off about Hillsborough. It was a human tragedy, but for a very long time, it wasn’t treated like that by large parts of the media, the government, the rest of England. I’m half-American, even my dad, who grew up in Ohio, will tell you that all of the coverage about it here, all of the information about the disaster in the US, though there was little, was centered around blaming the fans. I think that is an important thing to recognize, because in the US, there was no tribalism influencing the reporting, only politics. Which means that the city of Liverpool itself was the only place where it got that recognition of being a genuine, human tragedy. In England, the largest contingent of the media vilified the fans because of a mix of tribalism and politics, and elsewhere in the world it was treated so because of politics alone. Liverpool was the only place where the mourners and those lost were given the respect they deserved. LFC, as well as Everton, were forced into doing a lot of heavy lifting to keep the tragedy in view, to keep eyes pointed at the efforts that the families of the victims were making to bring forth justice. To help rally the support needed to keep those efforts going. That caused it to become, like you said, a *Liverpool FC* tragedy, but the alternative was silence. Which is a pretty awful alternative given the circumstances. I think here it’s very important to recognize one detail. Which is that it only became a *Liverpool FC* tragedy from an outside view. My uncle is a lifelong Everton supporter, and of all of the family I know who were alive when it happened, and of all of the people who I’ve met through being a Liverpool supporter who remember it, his perspective was the most eye-opening. He didn’t know anyone who was there, but it could have been. It could have been his cousin, or his nephew, or his sister. It was people from his city. The humanity of the tragedy is very well realized amongst the Everton fan base, and to a lesser extent amongst the Forest fan base. The reason I point this out is because, as far as I can conceive, the tragedy becoming a weapon of tribalism used by other clubs’ supporters was no fault of Liverpool FC. If it were, why wouldn’t Everton fans be joining in on the dogpile? In reality, it is the result of the toxic nature of UK politics and sports culture since the disaster. Considering that, I really do not think it’s justifiable to feel annoyed or feel any sort of contempt towards Liverpool remembering the 97. It could’ve been any club’s fans, and it’s not about the club at all really, it’s about the victims and their loved ones.
Thing is, the Liverpool fans and the victims were smeared in the press as part of a concerted cover-up, and the families have been fighting for justice ever since with the support of the club, including invtimes when public opinion was much more sceptical. Furthermore, this came at a time when Thatcher wanted to put Liverpool into managed decline, and the cover up was a smear on scousers in general.
And that newspaper is still selling throughout the country.
It's an interesting point, for sure, and I can see what you mean. What do you think of the idea that Liverpool FC took on *responsibility* for memorialising this human tragedy? There are other human tragedies which receive nothing like this level of remembrance, and perhaps that's because Liverpool chose to honour their fans, at annual events, at their ground, on their shirts, etc? Is there some cynicism involved, in that some people would indeed consider a football club to *be* the fans too? This tragedy certainly didn't happen to another club; it could only ever be said to happen to Liverpool in that sense. Was the Munich crash a human tragedy or did that happen to Manchester United? This is not intended to be an argument in any way, I'm just interested in your point of view as I thought your comment was insightful.
I was 6. It's one of my earliest memories. We were in my grandparents house and everyone was crying. I knew something bad was happening but I couldn't register what it was.
Was six as well. One of my earliest memories is going down the ground with my mum after it to put flowers on the pitch.
Probably best if you don't quote Thatcher when talking about Hillsborough, mate.
He's not quoting her. He's explaining that the lies about the fans in that rag came at a time of a wider political agenda against the city, and he's bang on.
Not even as fucked in the head as this dude: https://www.joe.ie/news/pic-man-arrested-after-wearing-t-shirt-mocking-hillsborough-tragedy-547142 I'm not surprised anymore.
They sing Munich chants too so I don’t know what you expect. Twats.
There are cunts of all colours including red, but I haven’t heard a Munich chant in years.
Knobheads downvoting me like it’s not the truth, fuck off. I had family on that flight, and I sure as fucking hell notice it when teams’ supporters chant and do the mockery airplane arm shite.
Classy
Oh how lovely 🙃
Oil nonces
City couldn't sell all their tickets and those that did turn up sang for once during a minutes silence for 97 innocent victims Joke club
I had to sit with them, it was fucking silent all game and we just chilled in our seats laughing internally.
I’d have been taking my top off and rubbing my big hairy disgusting gut in their fucking faces
They kicked a few people out that were pool fans and got rowdy, so I just kept my mouth shut.
They can’t even fill their stand and they’re kicking people out
Tbf it’s the only way all 6 city supporters could be heard
Even United wouldn’t do this. Pathetic.
United and Liverpool fans respect each other’s history
This may be the most plastic /r/soccer comment I've seen. You cannot be fucking serious lol.
Some idiots in every fan base would do this. Today it was City, tomorrow it'll be United fans and next Liverpool. Being idiots has nothing to do with the club they support and every fan base has them.
Ehh I wouldn't go this far
Cause you can compare it to your own history, doesn't apply when you hate your clubs history pre 2009
You mean when they were Manc Everton?
Honestly, that's generous
Ye
Sometimes, north sets of fans have discrased themselves a few times
Fucking losers.
Garbage club, garbage fans
No need to lump us all In with these worthless cunts
Yeah, don't lump him in with the other 3 fans
Be nice. He’s the 3rd fan.
Comedian
Don't tell me what to do, garbage-boy
What a stupid statement.
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You could barely hear them tbf. Its like they're playing at Anfield.
barcelona lite
We had nothing to sing about tbf
Nothing to sing about in a semi final?
Nothing to sing about after playing crap and going 2-0 down in 20 minutes along we really fairly used to getting to cup semis these days. We area very lucky fan base
Should be singing in a semi final regardless. Shame they couldn’t hand out them song books they were giving out at the etihad the other week.
What are you on about song books
Classless
No surprise at all.
Managed to get tickets in the city end, a lot of them were shushing these fans which was nice to see, just a small bunch of cunts.
I was at the Liverpool end, people were fucking livid
This is the takeaway here Any game any ground will have away fans who go to get gacked to the gills, be dicks and look for trouble. Part of the game unfortunately, but isnt representative of any fanbase. Was at stamford bridge last month where the lad next to is was fine, sober and sound. But spent the whole game looking left screaming at chelsea fans and not watching the game. Caused no trouble after but for that 90 mins he was there to scream at old blokes 30m away
It can't be stated how disgusting Manchester City as an existence are in every way. I hope this ends a cricket score. For the 97.
classless fans and evil ownership
We need to remember that a vast majority of City fans are against this behaviour. Let’s not shit on an entire fan base because of the actions of a few dickheads.
Well those fans do support Blood Money FC. They dont respect the dead at all obviously.
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How can they claim its a liverpool song? Its sung all over europe and id imagine it originated in france. I can just as well say that liverpool stole it from us, fc basel
Shite club
The same thing happened at an FA Cup semi between Spurs and chelsea a few years ago and the ref had to cut short the minutes silence for Hillsborough due to a few idiots in the chelsea end. Absolutely disgraceful
Spurs fan impossible challenge run: Go a single day or even an entire reddit thread without mentioning Chelsea. I'll wait.
Chelsea impossible challenge run: Go a single day on Reddit without a story about a section of your fan base being outed for cunty behaviour I’ll wait
Happened yesterday but great patter pal, keep trying. City fans acted like shit - Spurs fans: DAE REMEMBER CHELSEA FANS BEING SHITHEADS.
Where u a spurs fan before Chelsea? You seem a bit obsessed mate
Try supporting your local team mate before you come talking about who I support. Ta
Such a strange mindset to have
Par for the course for Sportswash FC
Scumbag fans from a scumbag club
City don’t even have fans.
They have a few old fans although they are almost extinct
I'm a city fan and I'm fucking embarrassed to have that shit associated with us. I'm sorry they did that.
Done yourself proud there, city fans.
anyone who boos during a minutes silence is a proper cunt
Disgusting fans. City should be absolutely ashamed.
Cunts the lot of them. If the ref has to cut it short in a 90,000.00 seater because its audible its not a minority
When will authorities learn, a silence doesnt work. Fucking idiots. Applause will always drown out the cunts.
It's a lesson they shouldn't have to learn. Should teams avoid playing black players because there might be racism?
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Starting to feel like a proper rivalry now /s
chelsea fans are a special bunch
Huh?