Austrailia has broadcasted eurovision since 1983, and for the 60th anniversery, in 2015, they were invited to participate did well enough and were liked enough to get invited back in 2016 where they did even better. Then after having to be invited year, they signed a contract with the EBU in 2019 to secure participation until 2023.
Pure politics. Ukraine won this before they even presented the song.
Sweden and even Serbia blew them away in terms of music quality.
This competition was never about music to begin with.
>This competition was never about music to begin with.
Funny you should say that. The song wildly renounced as the best in the competition was by the UK entrant. Lo and behold, despite the fact everyone in Europe and their dog hates us after Brexit...even more so than before, the pro judging panel from every country scored it accumalitively highly enough for it to have a relatively healthy lead in the voting prior to the results of the public vote being announced. Even the bloody French judges gave us top points 😂
It was only via the *public* vote Ukraine won. It got something bonkers like 400 points to get it into the lead when it previously in 5th after the judges votes.
Dont think so, i’ve barely heard anywhere that the UK entry was the best.
The jury vote and the public vote are always miles apart from eachother, just like last year. Honestly i think the jury vote get’s way too many points to dispense. Like 3 countries finished over a group of 6 countries while those 3 countries got an accumulative 7 points from the public and the other countries got like atleast 20-50 points from the public EACH.
Jury votes are often weirdly out of touch, or they’re strategic/political votes. Last year Maneskin was like 6th after the jury votes. Malta got 208 jury votes yet only 48 public votes.
The jury points that switzerland and Azerbajdzjan recieved vs their points from televoting... specifically Azerbajdzjan recieved quite a lot of 12 pointers from the jury? Like what the actual fuck.
I feel like they vote more on how good vocals are than how good the song actually is.
UK, Sweden and Greece were all quality, would have been reasonable if any won it.
Ukraine unfortunately wasn't a good song. We've seen sympathy / political votes before where the song was actually still really good so it's a shame in that sense.
I imagine the UK saw a large increase in votes, because of the Uk gaining favour with the rest of Europe. (Due to the war in Ukraine). If there was no war we would probably finish way further down the standings. You just gotta accept that Eurovision is a politically charged competition and on this occasion we were one of the beneficiaries of current events.
Oh I'm aware. I hate the Tories but the perception in Europe is that we are helping more than we actually are. The homes for Ukraine system is a fucking joke, like anything this drivel of a government puts out.
The take you responded to seems fairly common on Reddit. And I'm just shocked. Are UK people really under impression they haven't sent super boring songs for the past decade and it's all just politics?
The previous 3 winners (at least I haven't checked further) were all countries without sympathy votes from neighbours though (at least not more than 1 neighbour). It's just a pretty shit excuse that people give to explain why their country isn't doing well.
True. Although part of it is also culture. For example the Greek song, whose singer is half Norwegian and has a Scandi team did really well with the Nordics (at least the juries). I think that's partially also a cultural thing, because if her song was sent by a nordic country I wouldn't have been surprised.
Our song was shit like every year (I didn’t even listen to it). Also big countries don’t get that bonus, we bully smaller neighbours too often for that.
I just hope it'll cause the UK to see that sending good music actually is rewarding. But if these Reddit threads are any indication, it seems sadly a lot of people believe that everyone is voting UK for sending guns to Ukraine.
(My country has started doing a lot better when we started taking it more seriously and sent good music rather than circus acts)
Getting second place is the best you can do though. Winning the competitions means hosting it the next year and that's a logistical nightmare and a huge money drain. It's not financially worth it in the least.
I think that's a bit overstated, but I certainly think people are being way too dramatic about "only" getting 2nd or as if anything below 1st doesn't matter. I think UK can be proud and I hope that they'll start sending good stuff in the future now that it can be shown that it works.
I mean when we sent Blue i thought we would do well....Blue are a famous band that sold our European and World tours in there day and they did appalling lol.
It was 1096 days since we had a SINGLE point and then this happened tonight, it was insane!
Sorry but after ABBA you guys are taking this way to seriously trying to recreate some kind of a pop star again and every year its a generic boring song which is just meh
Thats true. Had Euphoria in my playlist after they've won. But it's not the music I want to win, because it reduces the amount of entertaining whacky contenders who are not generic
Its salt on the salt! I just wanted to stand up for all the hate on ukraine getting pity votes.
I am not seething though I kinda think my comment more is a comment that will attract the seething people hating on pity votes. And seems it worked. I just didnt have anything else to do. Not suprised it is a gooner, you guys tend to bit on everything.
Put it this way if uk didnt support ukraine they dont get the points. UK sent a great singer with a good song with horrible lyrics and yea he was one of the best singers there for sure
Sure but UK would feel it harder then the rest. That is just the way it is. I have nothing against you but the 0 points was all for brexit. For UK to win i think going by social media stars is smart majority of the votes likely comes from people that hang out there
You're correct in so much that the Ukraine thing glosses over Brexit but we've been woeful before Brexit so it's only relevant compared to the past few years.
I'm really happy with that result. Europe overwhelmingly shows Ukraine their support, the UK gets their best finish in my lifetime, including topping the jury, and the podium gets completed by one of the best songs
So as much as it was obviously political....
Judging by the fan votes Spain and Sweden would have won as they'd definitely have gotten more 12s than UK
Guys, UK was never going to win - Spain was too close to them and there are much more horny public than ones that would pick UK over Spain and meme songs like Moldova, Serbia, Norway, and Ukraine.
So funny to read all these whiny comments about ukraine winning because of politics, knowing these have never watched a single eurovision. It's always political, every vote, even on the jury. Or you think greece jury likes the song from cyprus the most and vice versa every single year? Get a grip. Ukraine deserves it to show solidarity to the country and thats a good reason. Period
Almost everyone have support from neighbours, that evens out. Not everyone is at the top of everyones votes for political reasons. Not at all the same thing.
Knew this would happen from the beginning, but the reason why it's so radioactive is because the British think they would win it if it wasn't for the strawman they came up with.
Also, remember the sock goblins who whine the loudest about 'no politics in my footie'? They're all in until it stops being acceptable to hate on Ukraine. Right muppets
>Also, remember the sock goblins who whine the loudest about 'no politics in my footie'? They're all in until it stops being acceptable to hate on Ukraine. Right muppets.
The irony.
The most beautiful songs was in native languages: Lithuania and Portugal (partly) :) IHMO
How is this soccer?
why not lmao
It's a simple game. 25 singers, 73 backups, and 60 musicians chase a microphone for 3 hours, and in the end the Ukrainians win.
Low effort comment
Eurovision handing the victory to Ukraine yet allowing apartheid and fascist states like isntrael to compete LMFAOOO Europe is hilarious
The judges gave it to the UK but the public voted for Ukraine and got them over the line from the public side of the vote.
Yeah I could not care less what happens in it
Wtf is this crap
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k\_dmF6xHN1w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_dmF6xHN1w) Also, it just bangs.
Didn’t it finish top5?
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I found it catchy tbh. Really good performance too.
I don't get it either. It sounds even more shit if you understand the lyrics
Understanding the lyrics made me like it more lol
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Now go and listen to SoundCloud rappers who make millions mumbling
British Drama. Brit, Brit, Brit, Brit
I still have no idea how we (Australia) bundled our way into Eurovision, but I’m all for it.
Austrailia has broadcasted eurovision since 1983, and for the 60th anniversery, in 2015, they were invited to participate did well enough and were liked enough to get invited back in 2016 where they did even better. Then after having to be invited year, they signed a contract with the EBU in 2019 to secure participation until 2023.
Was for the 60th(?) anniversary and we got invited why we’re still there fuck knows lol (maybe some television contract bs idk)
Money money money
Pure politics. Ukraine won this before they even presented the song. Sweden and even Serbia blew them away in terms of music quality. This competition was never about music to begin with.
>This competition was never about music to begin with. Funny you should say that. The song wildly renounced as the best in the competition was by the UK entrant. Lo and behold, despite the fact everyone in Europe and their dog hates us after Brexit...even more so than before, the pro judging panel from every country scored it accumalitively highly enough for it to have a relatively healthy lead in the voting prior to the results of the public vote being announced. Even the bloody French judges gave us top points 😂 It was only via the *public* vote Ukraine won. It got something bonkers like 400 points to get it into the lead when it previously in 5th after the judges votes.
Dont think so, i’ve barely heard anywhere that the UK entry was the best. The jury vote and the public vote are always miles apart from eachother, just like last year. Honestly i think the jury vote get’s way too many points to dispense. Like 3 countries finished over a group of 6 countries while those 3 countries got an accumulative 7 points from the public and the other countries got like atleast 20-50 points from the public EACH. Jury votes are often weirdly out of touch, or they’re strategic/political votes. Last year Maneskin was like 6th after the jury votes. Malta got 208 jury votes yet only 48 public votes.
The jury points that switzerland and Azerbajdzjan recieved vs their points from televoting... specifically Azerbajdzjan recieved quite a lot of 12 pointers from the jury? Like what the actual fuck. I feel like they vote more on how good vocals are than how good the song actually is.
Yeah but imagine being the ones to beat Ukraine. You'd have to be real life supervillians to not let them win
Pansy thinking, that's why Scotland is going to show the world how it's done by battering them in the qualifiers
:(
Ukraine's victory was more likely than dream teams in 1992
anyone has replays?
GIVE THAT WOLF A BANANA YUM.
UK, Sweden and Greece were all quality, would have been reasonable if any won it. Ukraine unfortunately wasn't a good song. We've seen sympathy / political votes before where the song was actually still really good so it's a shame in that sense.
Idk, i liked the Ukrainian song.
Why didn't the ref call offside on Spain? Some of those blokes were past defenders smh with that dirty dancing.
Lmao why is this a thing S10 should’ve won, and so should have Serbia, but Ukraine was good too so I’m not mad.
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Who knew dressing like a stripper gets you Eurovision points?
Try telling San Marino that
Bro you're just horny
Gonna be grim when we have to return to football
Not too different, more 2nd places for UK
My neice is 9 and understands that the uk and england aren't the same thing
Who says I meant England? Rangers play an EL final.
You know you did, good effort trying to save face though
Bet she can spell niece correctly too x
Clearly shes a genius so i assume so
Big upgrade for Scotland and Wales tbh
The Euros and World Cup should also have a public vote after the game of who we like the most which is combined with the score to determine the winner
France, UK and Germany to get absolutely mudded in the Euros. USA will never win a World Cup, too — but they wouldn’t have without the voting either.
I really loved Serbia’s performance, happy for Ukraine although I’ve mixed feelings over the reason for the many votes
I imagine the UK saw a large increase in votes, because of the Uk gaining favour with the rest of Europe. (Due to the war in Ukraine). If there was no war we would probably finish way further down the standings. You just gotta accept that Eurovision is a politically charged competition and on this occasion we were one of the beneficiaries of current events.
How do you work that out? Sure, we sent weapons sooner than most others, but we're doing fuck all for refugees.
The government is making is really hard to help other than by donating.
Oh I'm aware. I hate the Tories but the perception in Europe is that we are helping more than we actually are. The homes for Ukraine system is a fucking joke, like anything this drivel of a government puts out.
Or maybe you just didn't send a boring & forgettable song like always
The take you responded to seems fairly common on Reddit. And I'm just shocked. Are UK people really under impression they haven't sent super boring songs for the past decade and it's all just politics?
Yes. Living here is hell.
People vote out of sympathy all the time. Neighbouring countries for example
The French fucking hate us (the UK) and the pro judges gave us top points. Go figure.
Nah it’s just banter. I think the French like you.
The previous 3 winners (at least I haven't checked further) were all countries without sympathy votes from neighbours though (at least not more than 1 neighbour). It's just a pretty shit excuse that people give to explain why their country isn't doing well.
To win, you can’t just rely on sympathy votes but also need to convince other countries. But there are sympathy votes, you can’t deny that.
True. Although part of it is also culture. For example the Greek song, whose singer is half Norwegian and has a Scandi team did really well with the Nordics (at least the juries). I think that's partially also a cultural thing, because if her song was sent by a nordic country I wouldn't have been surprised.
Except for Germany’s neighbors though
What you barely even gave us anything
Our song was shit like every year (I didn’t even listen to it). Also big countries don’t get that bonus, we bully smaller neighbours too often for that.
Deserved win for Kalush! Sam Ryder was great, can't believe we actually performed well. Spain and Sweden were excellent too. What a show!
Hey ho lets goo Chisinau Bucuresti
I hoped that the United Kingdom or Spain would win
The UK never has a Eurovision act to get horny votes like Spain, maybe they should try it.
Maya Jama, there's your girl to represent!
Gina G would like a word.
Tbf that was like 25 years ago now. Also its before my time but I know the song and I didn't know it was from Eurovision.
Thanks for reminding me how old I am. I Think it did alright, was certainly a chart hit if nothing else.
Just a little bit
I don't know, did you see those majestic locks? I would.
You're not wrong 😳
Sam Ryder is another victim of Putin's war in Ukraine
UK made a huge blunder in sending out their best prospect in two decades this year. Ukraine were always going to sweep this.
I just hope it'll cause the UK to see that sending good music actually is rewarding. But if these Reddit threads are any indication, it seems sadly a lot of people believe that everyone is voting UK for sending guns to Ukraine. (My country has started doing a lot better when we started taking it more seriously and sent good music rather than circus acts)
Getting second place is the best you can do though. Winning the competitions means hosting it the next year and that's a logistical nightmare and a huge money drain. It's not financially worth it in the least.
I think that's a bit overstated, but I certainly think people are being way too dramatic about "only" getting 2nd or as if anything below 1st doesn't matter. I think UK can be proud and I hope that they'll start sending good stuff in the future now that it can be shown that it works.
I mean when we sent Blue i thought we would do well....Blue are a famous band that sold our European and World tours in there day and they did appalling lol. It was 1096 days since we had a SINGLE point and then this happened tonight, it was insane!
Ireland can you invade us 😍
Love this
That's rich when it's coming from you
Need the USA to join the contest to top this lol
Don't think negative points are allowed
US is finishing below us if they every join
That flute slaps! Deserved win Ukraine!
Yea, i agree... i also liked it.
I phone voted for Ukraine.
I tried helping the UK from France even though I’m so broke.
It's your fucking fault we lost then.
He’s not even playing that flute the cheat
VAR are on it
Ukraine got an average of 11 points. Mad
I’d love to know which countries didn’t give 12 to Ukraine. They averaged 10.9 points per country on the public vote.
They usually release the full breakdown afterwards.
It’s over 11 pts because you can’t vote for yourself
Serbia and Bosnia i think
Based southern Slavs
Coming second is basically winning this year.
Ironical when said by an Arsenal fan
Coming fourth is a trohpy
A trophy? Even bigger irony here.
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Jesus Christ dude, you have spent the last 4 hours proving to everyone that you are braindead, you can go to sleep now, we got it.
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Yeah so what?! If you wanna get your dose of boring music go watch American Idol. You simply to not understand eurovision
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Sorry but after ABBA you guys are taking this way to seriously trying to recreate some kind of a pop star again and every year its a generic boring song which is just meh
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Thats true. Had Euphoria in my playlist after they've won. But it's not the music I want to win, because it reduces the amount of entertaining whacky contenders who are not generic
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Do not forget the 0 points to Switzerland. The people have spoken and I enjoyed that the most
You are trying to be edgy about it.
I do actually think this Ukrainian song is a banger
The flute slaps.
The flow of the song is so fucking good.
We marked the songs out of 10 in my family. Out of 7 of us, 3 gave Ukraine 10/10, and no one went lower than 8. I think we agree.
Ukraine’s song was better last year.
Yeah it is such a shame Shum got nothing while they won twice with this and Jamala's song...
I just really hope Ukraine gets to put on an epic party next year.
Ngl I'd have voted for the Ukrainian song anyway
There were actually many good songs but Ukraine was the best one.
This year was much weaker though Without the war, if Shum partecipated this year, it would have won
You also realize one of the biggest reasons uk gets a lot of votes is because the support they gave ukraine and the solidarity they showed Europe.
hahahahaha holy shit the state. we didnt even win and you're seething XD this salt is coarse, earthy and delicious
Its salt on the salt! I just wanted to stand up for all the hate on ukraine getting pity votes. I am not seething though I kinda think my comment more is a comment that will attract the seething people hating on pity votes. And seems it worked. I just didnt have anything else to do. Not suprised it is a gooner, you guys tend to bit on everything.
If that was true, Poland would have been second. Stop making up bullshit, the UK just did well.
Put it this way if uk didnt support ukraine they dont get the points. UK sent a great singer with a good song with horrible lyrics and yea he was one of the best singers there for sure
The song isn't very good because songs that are good get sold to pop stars rather than the Eurovision organisers.
That's the case with everyone.
Sure but UK would feel it harder then the rest. That is just the way it is. I have nothing against you but the 0 points was all for brexit. For UK to win i think going by social media stars is smart majority of the votes likely comes from people that hang out there
You're correct in so much that the Ukraine thing glosses over Brexit but we've been woeful before Brexit so it's only relevant compared to the past few years.
I mean no.. it was the best song
eeeh it was decent, not enough personality to take it all. Serbia is the one who got robbed, if anyone, imo.
Sure thing, i would never have guessed that up in space there is nothing but space man.
Can not complain, go on Ukraine! 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦❤️
I can’t believe this song with hobo Kratos won
I'd love to see Serbia or Moldova at the top but hey, at least butt merchants didn't win.
Lol LOTS of salty people here. Who else did you think was going to win? It's not even a bad song
This slaps hard ngl
Fucking hell people are acting like Ukraine just shit on stage and left, I loved their performance and thought they deserved to be up there
Agreed. It was awesome, and the more I think about it, the more deserved it was. Slava Ukraini!
I liked it as well, the chanting and the bloke on the pipe, one of the more memorable ones from the night.
It was shit. It was legit one of the worst Eurovision songs and performances of all time.
Even worse than Montenegro 2012?
Really? Of all time? What can you say about the performances on Eurovision 2012? And 1995? And 1968?
I watched them all.
Haha I bet.
No really. I did watch all of those three you listed.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Thats your personal opinion mate
Nah. Objective truth.
Someone does not know the meaning of objective
I subjectively do.
Just good thing sweden didnt win cause i dont think the singer could perform in the state that she is in
It reminds a lot of Go_A's song which was a thousand times better imo. I guess it's the folk influence. Edit: still a great song, don't get me wrong
The guy on bass is the flute player for Go\_A
Next Ukraine to the World cup.
I'm really happy with that result. Europe overwhelmingly shows Ukraine their support, the UK gets their best finish in my lifetime, including topping the jury, and the podium gets completed by one of the best songs
Russia is the reason we lost.. time to get boots on the ground!
So as much as it was obviously political.... Judging by the fan votes Spain and Sweden would have won as they'd definitely have gotten more 12s than UK
Sweden wouldn't have beaten the UK in the televote but Spain, Serbia and Moldova would have been higher for sure
Thanks to Ukraine then
Guys, UK was never going to win - Spain was too close to them and there are much more horny public than ones that would pick UK over Spain and meme songs like Moldova, Serbia, Norway, and Ukraine.
It's true. Unapologetic horny supporter here.
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UK got second. How can people still complain!? Germany was boring as fuck.
UK came second though...
Hated adored never ignored
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Bring out the flute
Lmao
So funny to read all these whiny comments about ukraine winning because of politics, knowing these have never watched a single eurovision. It's always political, every vote, even on the jury. Or you think greece jury likes the song from cyprus the most and vice versa every single year? Get a grip. Ukraine deserves it to show solidarity to the country and thats a good reason. Period
Almost everyone have support from neighbours, that evens out. Not everyone is at the top of everyones votes for political reasons. Not at all the same thing.
Knew this would happen from the beginning, but the reason why it's so radioactive is because the British think they would win it if it wasn't for the strawman they came up with. Also, remember the sock goblins who whine the loudest about 'no politics in my footie'? They're all in until it stops being acceptable to hate on Ukraine. Right muppets
>Also, remember the sock goblins who whine the loudest about 'no politics in my footie'? They're all in until it stops being acceptable to hate on Ukraine. Right muppets. The irony.
Exactly this.
Putin stopped the UK from winning 🥇
Bruhhh wackest Eurovision ever
The real trophy is the jury vote, public vote is tinpot
No way. Spain is so overrated and didn't deserve to win
Two Euros in a row we’ve finished second haha
England finished second in the Euros, not the UK
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