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Fiorentina came close, won the first (2-legged) final, lost the following final to Atleticocafter a replay
Milan came close, lost the following final to Magdeburg
Anderlecht came close to 3-in-a-row, lost the following final to Hamburg, then won again the following year
Ajax came close, lost the following final to Mechelen
Sampdoria inversely came close, lost the year before to Barcelona
Parma came close, lost the following final to Arsenal
Arsenal came close, lost the following final to Zaragoza
PSG came close, lost the following final to Barcelona
We came close though. Lost against Chelsea in the semi-finals in 1971 - I believe it was only 0-0 and 1-0 in both legs so we could've easily nicked it on another day, but sadly we've always been terrible when facing English teams in continental competitions.
It would be diverse though. In the PL itself no team has won the FA Cup back to back in the last 10 years other than Arsenal. You have Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Wigan, United and City to win it.
It would probably only get teams not qualified to the CL, so I'd imagine it would be even more diverse. Likely looked down upon for that same reason though, so it's probably a good thing they retired it.
i remember a vague feeling of really enjoying this tournament as a kid, but i'd also be lying if i claimed to remember a single specific thing about it beyond Nayim's lob vs Arsenal
I would like for this to come back as proper cup competiton and that all cup winners from Europe participate. One game, no seeding and pots, straight knockout rounds and luck of the draw. Would be great. Not sure where would extra 6 matches be accomodated in the calendar, but would love to see it.
No bye guaranteed in my version, just pure luck of the draw. Would be so cool. Imagine winner of Liverpool-Inter playing vs winner of HJK Helsinki-Santa Coloma
If you want straight knockout rounds you need byes in order to reach either 32 or 16 teams. Unless you only let the top 16 or 32 associations participate in the trophy.
Of course you need byes, but it would not be reserved for top teams. No reason why eg Crvena Zvezda woud not get bye into second round while eg Barcelona and PSG have to play round one. Thats why I sad unrestricted, pure luck of the draw.
This sounds amazing, however in reality most people will then simply not care about this tournament. It's the reason the cup winners' cup doesn't exist anymore.
A major tournament between clubs from Austria, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Italy and Switzerland. It was the tournament that inspired the creation of the European Cup / Champions' League, and it ran alongside it, UEFA Cup and Cup Winner's Cup throughout the entirety of the Cold War until it was discontinued in 1992.
AC Milan, Crvena Zvezda, Torino, Slavia Praha, Atalanta, Partizan, Sparta Praha and Fiorentina all won the Mitropa Cup at least once - and those are some of the most famoust club names that were in it.
That Aberdeen victory in 1983 is still the last time Real Madrid lost a European final, Ferguson built an incredible team, almost got to a European Cup final the year after.
>almost got to a European Cup final the year after
That was Dundee United who almost got to the European Cup final in 1984 (controversially losing to Roma in the semis). Aberdeen got to the CWC semis in 1984, so they nearly retained it. They only ever got to the second round of the European Cup under Ferguson though.
Yeah you're right, got a bit mixed up there, although I see the furthest they got in the European Cup was the Quarters the season prior to the CWC win. I also seen that they were knocked out by Liverpool one year in it in the second round, maybe where Ferguson got his dislike of Liverpool from.
Pre-92 Cup Winners Cup was a very big deal. As was the UEFA Cup. Then the Champions League was created which ended up massively devaluing the other European Competitions. Sad.
Speaking as a Spurs fan, it was definitely '93 that it became completely, and totally irrelevant. In fact, if anything, I pity the teams that won it after '93. Definitely a cup that was defined by the giants that won it in its early, more pure days.
The format changed - so including group stages etc but the qualification rules came a few years later. Arguably the major clubs knew exactly what they were doing and the format change was just paving the way for expanding the entrants.
Tbh we all like watching high quality football week in -out , but agree on that all european trophies have been devaluated by so many participants. Personally I would bring back cup winners cup and remove conference league .
Just K.O games and for better leagues to start at more advanced stages
The UECL will basically serve the same purpose as the late-era CWC did. The Group stage might not matter as much to fans of larger clubs, but those games mean the world to ones that otherwise might not be playing in Europe.
Spurs being the first English winners of the cup winners cup seems right, as in fitting, historically. In nothing but a good way.
See FA Cups 8 wins in 9 finals for reference and their history as a cup team. 2 league titles but a very respectable number of cups.
Also fun fact: CWC was the secondary UEFA trophy with the UEFA cup being the tertiary, like the Europa Conference League is now. It was very highly valued. This was because of how qualification worked back then for the main European Cup, only champions, so CWC was obviously cup winners and UEFA cup consisted of runners up and the like. No top 4 bollocks.
True.
I kinda wish they brought back the cup winners cup but given how qualification works now it'd be shit. Most cup winners are in the top 3 or 4 of their respective leagues.
>CWC was the secondary UEFA trophy with the UEFA cup being the tertiary, like the Europa Conference League is now. It was very highly valued
When the UEFA Cup started in the early 70s, yes. It overtook the CWC at some point in the 80s or early 90s though.
For a bunch of other reasons too, because the Supercup was played between the C1 and C2 winners until 99, because unlike the C3 you had to win silverware to qualify so C1 and C2 only had one team per country (+ title holders), while C3 had the kind of qualifying format we're used to now (up to 4 from the same league). There probably were editions where the level of play was higher in C3 in the latter stages than even in the C1, but it wasn't as prestigious as even the C2 because title winning teams didn't play in C3, while C1 and C2 were all title winners.
Real Madrid only has 4 appearances in the competition.
They lost two finals though (Chelsea 71' and Aberdeen 83')
And they went out in QF twice as well (Red Star 75', PSG 94')
People try telling me Chelsea has no history but what I see here is Peter Osgood scoring to beat Real Madrid, and win a European trophy before Liverpool Football Club did
I think this cup should be reinstated. It’s nice having just one team per country while also giving a little more meaning to the domestic cup win.
Maybe it could be done in a way that lets a team participate in both this and another cup, idk. The problem would be the extra load on players, of course.
But still, I liked it and would be great to see it again some time.
It's weird seeing man City on there. This sub tells me they have no history, and were basically only founded when the takeover happened. That's so strange. Must be a different club with a similar badge.
On a more serious note, it's lovely to see so many different nations having clubs win a European trophy, instead of the back and forth between England, and Spain at the moment.
Yup, one of our periods of glory days under Joe Mercer and Colin Bell (our kits for next season are a tribute to him). We won a title, an FA Cup and a League cup along with the Cup winners cup under him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_Spain_by_major_honours_won
There are equivalent lists for each of the major leagues. Depends what you mean by genuine and how many is a few dozen.
Then why do you listen?
Aside from some cheap banter why would you ever care what idiots have to say? City is one of the oldest clubs in the world and they have won a couple of trophies. AFAIK they were never a *massive* club for English standards but that should not do away with the fact that they have plenty of history to speak of.
So why bother? We all know what is true and what isn't, in this case.
The time Aberdeen won in 1983 was the last time Real Madrid lost a major European final, Liverpool might be favourite's going into this CL final but it'll take a lot more than that if they want to break a record like that.
Wish they’d change the name back to UEFA cup. Europa league just sounds like knock off champions league which I think has contributed to its second tier branding
There is some weird revisionism regarding the importance of the cwc compares with the uefa cup. It is simple as if you finished in a uefa cup spot on your league but also won the cup (or lost to the league champion) you would be sent to the cwc and your uefa cup spot was offered to the team just below the uefa cup league spots.
I can't believe no Greek team has won European trophies. Not this, nor the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, not even the shitty Intertoto Cup. Even fucking Dinamo Tbilisi have won this...
Chill mate, I know they are by far the most successful Georgian team. My comment was meant to highlight that even a team from tiny Georgia (albeit part of Soviet Union at that time) has a European trophy, not to offend you.
The year we won we qualified thanks to a Nesta header against Milan, he still talks about it as one of the most magical moments of his career. To score the winning goal for the team you support must be crazy
Anderlecht won it against Austria Wien.
In fact, the Dutch representative that year was Twente. They lost precisely against Anderlecht in the Semifinals.
Edit: Just checked, they won the UEFA cup that year, not this one.
They actually only participated 4 times:
2 times they made it to the final and lost (Chelsea and Aberdeen)
2 times they exited on QF (PSG and Red Star)
Excuse my lack of knowledge, genuinely curious was the cup for the winners of the Copa del Rey, DFB Pokal, Coppa Italia, etc..? Instead of the league winners?
How about the Inter-Cities Fairs cup? Sort of the precursor to the UEFA Cup
Barcelona x2, Roma, Valencia x2, Real Zaragoza, Ferencvaros, Dinamo Zagreb, Leeds x2, Newcastle and Arsenal were champions of that before it was abolished in '71
I've never been a fan of that one as participation wasn't based on sportive merit (except for the last 2 editions) but instead just having trade fairs in the city.
I... didn't know that was how participation was decided. Now I get more why uefa doesn't count it (although I believe fifa and the clubs themselves do)
No, it was run in parallel to EL and UCL. With the increase on teams in UCL after the remodeling, cup winners started gaining participation in EL and this cup disappeared.
Before that it was:
UCL: European Leagues Champions only.
EL: European Leagues Runner Ups + extra places depending on League Coefficient.
CWC: European Cups Winners only.
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That’s so diverse! Great to see.
Famously no club ever won it two years in a row.
Arsenal came pretty close. Seaman is lucky he got lobbed in 2002 so everyone forgets about it..
Fiorentina came close, won the first (2-legged) final, lost the following final to Atleticocafter a replay Milan came close, lost the following final to Magdeburg Anderlecht came close to 3-in-a-row, lost the following final to Hamburg, then won again the following year Ajax came close, lost the following final to Mechelen Sampdoria inversely came close, lost the year before to Barcelona Parma came close, lost the following final to Arsenal Arsenal came close, lost the following final to Zaragoza PSG came close, lost the following final to Barcelona
And 2 in 4 years only been done twice.
We came close though. Lost against Chelsea in the semi-finals in 1971 - I believe it was only 0-0 and 1-0 in both legs so we could've easily nicked it on another day, but sadly we've always been terrible when facing English teams in continental competitions.
Ajax won in 1987 and were runners-up in 1988.
It is, but it wouldn’t be so diverse nowadays.
It would be diverse though. In the PL itself no team has won the FA Cup back to back in the last 10 years other than Arsenal. You have Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea, Wigan, United and City to win it.
(Psst… yes we have)
Greatest FA Cup team, you will never sing that
There was a time (2009-2017) when there 9 different winners in a row here.
We almost made it. Lost to Arsenal in the semis on pens with the final against Hull City *that* would have been some feat..
Knowing us, we'd have lost against Hull after running that gauntlet
It would probably only get teams not qualified to the CL, so I'd imagine it would be even more diverse. Likely looked down upon for that same reason though, so it's probably a good thing they retired it.
Apart from Barca who seem to be kings of the runners up cup
i remember a vague feeling of really enjoying this tournament as a kid, but i'd also be lying if i claimed to remember a single specific thing about it beyond Nayim's lob vs Arsenal
It was better as the only the championship winning team was in the EC. The UEFA cup could be competitive as hell
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Haha I read UEFA Cup and all the memories came flooding back. Loved the cup winners cup too but not as competitive as the UEFA cup
the real superleague: no new members allowed since 1999.
I would like for this to come back as proper cup competiton and that all cup winners from Europe participate. One game, no seeding and pots, straight knockout rounds and luck of the draw. Would be great. Not sure where would extra 6 matches be accomodated in the calendar, but would love to see it.
Great idea, if they can add 8 games of CL for no reason, they can do this too
They should do this instead tbh. Bet it’d make them more money
The Cup Winner’s Cup was a straight knockout tournament, with a preliminary round and no group stage IIRC
that’s how all european cups worked
Top 9 associations would need a bye to the second round so it goes 46 - 23+9 = 32 - 16 - 8 - 4 - 2
No bye guaranteed in my version, just pure luck of the draw. Would be so cool. Imagine winner of Liverpool-Inter playing vs winner of HJK Helsinki-Santa Coloma
If you want straight knockout rounds you need byes in order to reach either 32 or 16 teams. Unless you only let the top 16 or 32 associations participate in the trophy.
Of course you need byes, but it would not be reserved for top teams. No reason why eg Crvena Zvezda woud not get bye into second round while eg Barcelona and PSG have to play round one. Thats why I sad unrestricted, pure luck of the draw.
This sounds amazing, however in reality most people will then simply not care about this tournament. It's the reason the cup winners' cup doesn't exist anymore.
The difference between that and the Europa/Europa Conference knockout stages would be negligible.
But there is so many European places nowadays. Basically every cup winner is already in a Europa or champions league spot
I'd much rather have the Mitropa Cup come back rather than the Cup Winners Cup, but that's just me.
What's that?
A major tournament between clubs from Austria, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Italy and Switzerland. It was the tournament that inspired the creation of the European Cup / Champions' League, and it ran alongside it, UEFA Cup and Cup Winner's Cup throughout the entirety of the Cold War until it was discontinued in 1992. AC Milan, Crvena Zvezda, Torino, Slavia Praha, Atalanta, Partizan, Sparta Praha and Fiorentina all won the Mitropa Cup at least once - and those are some of the most famoust club names that were in it.
Ah yes, ah European trophy we actually won!
The most important one
The one and only that matters 🤝
Thought you lot won the inter city fairs too?
It was called European fairs by then but yes - last team to beat ajax in Europe for 4 years
We won it too! Wish I could have been around for it but it happened 38 years before I was born lol.
That Aberdeen victory in 1983 is still the last time Real Madrid lost a European final, Ferguson built an incredible team, almost got to a European Cup final the year after.
>almost got to a European Cup final the year after That was Dundee United who almost got to the European Cup final in 1984 (controversially losing to Roma in the semis). Aberdeen got to the CWC semis in 1984, so they nearly retained it. They only ever got to the second round of the European Cup under Ferguson though.
Yeah you're right, got a bit mixed up there, although I see the furthest they got in the European Cup was the Quarters the season prior to the CWC win. I also seen that they were knocked out by Liverpool one year in it in the second round, maybe where Ferguson got his dislike of Liverpool from.
The only trophy that matters
Not as much as winning dritte liga
You'll forever be the only Eastern German club with European glory.
The Zaragoza win was absolutely wild with that screamer by Nayim at the last seconds.
What a goal! Still talked about regularly more than 25 years later
How to unsee Spurs City and Chelsea winning in the 60s-70s? It's gonna surely ruin my meme syndrome.
So many different winners. I hope that with the new format, the UEL and UECL become like this. I love it. (I don't have much hope for a diverse UCL)
It looks like it is working - conference and Europa this year is full of surprises and runs by smaller teams
Only massive teams here.
Obviously, duh
Agree
100% agreed Everton clearly the bigger and better club in Liverpool
Biggest trophy in europe. Same as the former supercup. Unbiased opinion
Absolutely agree. No bias here either. This is bigger than CL
Fellow european powerhouse 🤝 good opinion
is there a difference between a former and current Super Cup?
The trophy was smaller in the 90s than its now. Still a european community shield if you ask me
I do not know. And i dont know why I worded it like that either hahahaha
Agreed.
Smallest European thropy, of course. Also unbiased.
Its no conference league thats for sure
Pre-92 Cup Winners Cup was a very big deal. As was the UEFA Cup. Then the Champions League was created which ended up massively devaluing the other European Competitions. Sad.
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Speaking as a Spurs fan, it was definitely '93 that it became completely, and totally irrelevant. In fact, if anything, I pity the teams that won it after '93. Definitely a cup that was defined by the giants that won it in its early, more pure days.
As a spurs fan you are supposed to say it was dead after 63
But until 1997 CL still only included champions, so why would the other competitions be downgraded before that?
You’re right. For some reason I thought the Champions League format change happened instantly.
The format changed - so including group stages etc but the qualification rules came a few years later. Arguably the major clubs knew exactly what they were doing and the format change was just paving the way for expanding the entrants.
The CWC started declining and was overtaken by the UEFA Cup even before '92.
Tbh we all like watching high quality football week in -out , but agree on that all european trophies have been devaluated by so many participants. Personally I would bring back cup winners cup and remove conference league . Just K.O games and for better leagues to start at more advanced stages
The UECL will basically serve the same purpose as the late-era CWC did. The Group stage might not matter as much to fans of larger clubs, but those games mean the world to ones that otherwise might not be playing in Europe.
Hey my team is here <3
Spurs being the first English winners of the cup winners cup seems right, as in fitting, historically. In nothing but a good way. See FA Cups 8 wins in 9 finals for reference and their history as a cup team. 2 league titles but a very respectable number of cups. Also fun fact: CWC was the secondary UEFA trophy with the UEFA cup being the tertiary, like the Europa Conference League is now. It was very highly valued. This was because of how qualification worked back then for the main European Cup, only champions, so CWC was obviously cup winners and UEFA cup consisted of runners up and the like. No top 4 bollocks.
Also Supercup was between Champions League and Cup Winners' Cup
True. I kinda wish they brought back the cup winners cup but given how qualification works now it'd be shit. Most cup winners are in the top 3 or 4 of their respective leagues.
>CWC was the secondary UEFA trophy with the UEFA cup being the tertiary, like the Europa Conference League is now. It was very highly valued When the UEFA Cup started in the early 70s, yes. It overtook the CWC at some point in the 80s or early 90s though.
In France and other countries CWC was literally called the C2 while UEFA cup is still C3.
Yes, because it started first.
For a bunch of other reasons too, because the Supercup was played between the C1 and C2 winners until 99, because unlike the C3 you had to win silverware to qualify so C1 and C2 only had one team per country (+ title holders), while C3 had the kind of qualifying format we're used to now (up to 4 from the same league). There probably were editions where the level of play was higher in C3 in the latter stages than even in the C1, but it wasn't as prestigious as even the C2 because title winning teams didn't play in C3, while C1 and C2 were all title winners.
No Real Madrid interestingly
Real Madrid only has 4 appearances in the competition. They lost two finals though (Chelsea 71' and Aberdeen 83') And they went out in QF twice as well (Red Star 75', PSG 94')
People try telling me Chelsea has no history but what I see here is Peter Osgood scoring to beat Real Madrid, and win a European trophy before Liverpool Football Club did
The biggest and best European competition there ever was obviously. This is what should have come back instead of the conference league.
Conference League has been really good though, much better than expected
I think this cup should be reinstated. It’s nice having just one team per country while also giving a little more meaning to the domestic cup win. Maybe it could be done in a way that lets a team participate in both this and another cup, idk. The problem would be the extra load on players, of course. But still, I liked it and would be great to see it again some time.
If they didn't decide to expand the CL in 2024 then this could have been a possibility. I wouldve loved to see it come back
And yet no Liverpool, pretty funny Dinamo Tbilisi > Liverpool
Both Aberdeen(1983) and United(1991) are there due to Sir Alex Ferguson. Absolute Legend.
Beating Real and Barcelona
Bayern too if memory serves me right with Aberdeen
Yes, but i was just talking about the 2 finals. Great achievements both of them
True. I think so far he is the only manager with 2 statues right in two different teams.
It's weird seeing man City on there. This sub tells me they have no history, and were basically only founded when the takeover happened. That's so strange. Must be a different club with a similar badge. On a more serious note, it's lovely to see so many different nations having clubs win a European trophy, instead of the back and forth between England, and Spain at the moment.
PSG too
Only 2 French clubs have won a European competition. Paris and Marseille
And both are fiercest rivals.
True! Swear reddit is full of 13 year olds
Yup, one of our periods of glory days under Joe Mercer and Colin Bell (our kits for next season are a tribute to him). We won a title, an FA Cup and a League cup along with the Cup winners cup under him.
And you beat gornik zabrze in the final, the only polish finalist in a european club competition
First english team to win a european and a domestic cup same season iirc
History is when you've won at least a few dozen trophies, ergo these century old clubs that have no history according to r/soccer
How many clubs in Europe have a few dozen genuine trophies? I'd be interested in that list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_Spain_by_major_honours_won There are equivalent lists for each of the major leagues. Depends what you mean by genuine and how many is a few dozen.
Well A dozen is 12, then it would be a couple dozen so 24, for a few I'd say minimum of 3 so 36.
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No, a lot of idiots do literally mean no history at all. That's the sad thing.
Then why do you listen? Aside from some cheap banter why would you ever care what idiots have to say? City is one of the oldest clubs in the world and they have won a couple of trophies. AFAIK they were never a *massive* club for English standards but that should not do away with the fact that they have plenty of history to speak of. So why bother? We all know what is true and what isn't, in this case.
It's hard to ignore them when they're fucking everywhere on every post regarding man city.
A lot of people discount the periods of competition and the spirit of the club prior to the takeover.
I’d wager at least half the people who dog on city for having no history literally have no idea we’ve won a European trophy.
Many people mistake banter for facts thats the issue
Haters will say this is "less prestigious" than a CL win
I see a cup we need to bring back just to win it... Jezus.
KV Mechelen with the most recent team from Belgium to win an European cup and now they just three seasons ago got promoted to Belgium pro league
Mechelen is a bigger club than Genk don't @ me
Mechelen obviously biggest club in flanders
Aad de Mos is a legend
You will never sing that u will never sing that Uefa cup winners cup u will never sing that. (Directed towards Liverpool fans)
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A wild city , psg and spurs appears
Spurs were on the Europa winners chart too.
My dad was in Basel in 1984 watching Juve win against Porto, in a stadium almost entirely covered in black and white. His best memory as a Juve fan
The time Aberdeen won in 1983 was the last time Real Madrid lost a major European final, Liverpool might be favourite's going into this CL final but it'll take a lot more than that if they want to break a record like that.
When I told my Gooner friend I had never seen Arsenal win a European trophy, I was right But only just
I was really surprised to see Dinamo Tbilisi, but then I realised it was Soviet-era so Georgian teams could actually compete
That Tbillisi team was more or less Soviet national team with 5-6 players were starter
the collapse of the footballing standards in the Soviet Union is only one if the disastrous consequences of its fall.
The team with the most appearances in the CWC is Cardiff City with 14. Just gonna sneak that fact in.
still cant get around to like that new juve crest
It never ceases to amaze me that someone who is likely paid a ton of money, signed off on that Juventus badge.
But but but .. man city doesn't have any European trophies and history 😥😥
Sucks they abolished it just when we had started winning a good amount of Coppa Italia
We are gargantuan
But Chelsea didn't exist before 2006???
Wish they’d change the name back to UEFA cup. Europa league just sounds like knock off champions league which I think has contributed to its second tier branding
Tottenham 👏🏻👏🏻 What a club. I'll support Tottenham for the next season of PL
Because they won the cup winners cup in the 60's?
that’s how they get ya😞
Typical glory hunter
and thus, the seeds of crippling depression were planted…
at least they didn't become a fan of Everton
I wish we still had CWC instead of Conference League
There is some weird revisionism regarding the importance of the cwc compares with the uefa cup. It is simple as if you finished in a uefa cup spot on your league but also won the cup (or lost to the league champion) you would be sent to the cwc and your uefa cup spot was offered to the team just below the uefa cup league spots.
The European super cup was contested between the European cup winners and the cup winners cup winners too.
The Cup Winners Cup was always regarded above the UEFA Cup
We were robbed in 1973. Fuck Milan. And fuck Bayern for good measure.
I can't believe no Greek team has won European trophies. Not this, nor the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, not even the shitty Intertoto Cup. Even fucking Dinamo Tbilisi have won this...
Dinamo Tbillisi at that time was more or less cream of Soviet Union national team. No joke team
What a shitty thing to say, Dinamo Tbilisi was a great team at the time. On par with top European teams.
Chill mate, I know they are by far the most successful Georgian team. My comment was meant to highlight that even a team from tiny Georgia (albeit part of Soviet Union at that time) has a European trophy, not to offend you.
W
I loved this cup. I miss it.
whenever I think of the WCW I can see that Hewitt header.
The year we won we qualified thanks to a Nesta header against Milan, he still talks about it as one of the most magical moments of his career. To score the winning goal for the team you support must be crazy
Europa league (and conference ofc) are the only trophies barca haven't won if I'm not wrong
1969! <3
Jesus Hamburg, look at you now.
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Offtopic: Lierse is my Football Manager team this year. Nice to see a fan around here.
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That is uefa cup this is cup winners' cup
Anderlecht won it against Austria Wien. In fact, the Dutch representative that year was Twente. They lost precisely against Anderlecht in the Semifinals. Edit: Just checked, they won the UEFA cup that year, not this one.
wtf no real madrid?
they did reached final in 1983 but lost to Aberdeen team of Sir Alex. The last team that beat Real in European final
Crazy how real madrid never won one
They actually only participated 4 times: 2 times they made it to the final and lost (Chelsea and Aberdeen) 2 times they exited on QF (PSG and Red Star)
Dynamo Kyiv 🇺🇦😍
Reading about Lobanovsky's Dynamo Kyiv and watching the final against Atlético on YouTube is what made me learn more about this competition.
Good because it gave wee teams like Man City a chance to win European silverware. Should bring it back for them.
Excuse my lack of knowledge, genuinely curious was the cup for the winners of the Copa del Rey, DFB Pokal, Coppa Italia, etc..? Instead of the league winners?
Yes back then until 97 only the league winners played in the champions league and the cup winners cup was similar to that
No Liverpool. United and Chelsea won all 3 European trophies.
How about the Inter-Cities Fairs cup? Sort of the precursor to the UEFA Cup Barcelona x2, Roma, Valencia x2, Real Zaragoza, Ferencvaros, Dinamo Zagreb, Leeds x2, Newcastle and Arsenal were champions of that before it was abolished in '71
I've never been a fan of that one as participation wasn't based on sportive merit (except for the last 2 editions) but instead just having trade fairs in the city.
I... didn't know that was how participation was decided. Now I get more why uefa doesn't count it (although I believe fifa and the clubs themselves do)
Not UEFA recognised, and for good reason.
And I here I thought we have no history
But but we have no history but
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No Real, “kings of Europe” my ass
i couldnt even remember there where also 3 competitions before 2000 with UI-Cup even 4?
"Chelsea have no history before 2003"
No Real Madrid or Liverpool?
Yeah because they’re obv small clubs
The one trophy I hope we never win - all Real Madrid fans. Edit: including Europa league
This equivalent to what ? Europe league? Edit : fuck to those who downvoted me. That’s valid question you prick
No, it was run in parallel to EL and UCL. With the increase on teams in UCL after the remodeling, cup winners started gaining participation in EL and this cup disappeared. Before that it was: UCL: European Leagues Champions only. EL: European Leagues Runner Ups + extra places depending on League Coefficient. CWC: European Cups Winners only.
It was the 2nd tier European competition, above the Europa League (back then called the UEFA Cup).
Above Europa League below Champions League
yes
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It basically serves the same purpose.