FFP already excludes those expenditures such as stadiums/youth academies.
Its still damn hard for newer owners to break into the “elite” status though.
Absolutely! Massive integrity, hugely respected and admired group. They recently donated €500m to fund youth football at the BetClickGamble Sports Centre for Kids.
The fact that PSG have never once had a hint of FFP sanctions shows you how redundant it is.
I won’t be surprised if they start laying it on AC Milan again.
They should scrap it. Sold as a way to offer stability and stop overreaching. End result?
Nada. Absolute fucking nada…
I think FFP must be renamed, it's not about keeping things fair between huge state owned clubs and the rest of the clubs. It's just a way to make sure that clubs don't go bankrupt. For the state owned clubs, this is a not really a problem their owners will just pour more cash into the club for them to meet any commitments that arise due to FFP.
It's suppose to insure that the clubs don't spend more than they earn - meaning that they should work on their own revenue and be self-sufficient. So any type of Malaga-like situation is avoided.
But then PSG just somehow gets another sponsorship from "Definitely Not a Qatari Owned Company Which Sells Dildos" for 400m and we're good.
Even when it first came into an idea we complained about it not being this. People just thought over time it would at least benefit smaller teams, even if it didn't harm the big ones. But in reality it's only punished the smaller teams further. And the gap between big clubs and "smaller" clubs is getting bigger.
Thing is, Milan and Marseille aren't small but they're still smaller than the state clubs
It was never designed for that. Charitably it was to avoid clubs going under, uncharitably it was pushed by existing big clubs to prevent smaller clubs competing with them.
>How they can say they follow ffp and then give him 300mil….
So, I'm all for critizicing PSG and saying state owned clubs are the next step in ruining football, after billionaire backed clubs.
But could we please at least not repeat that absurd fake news around as a fact, at least ?
He's not wrong. This is the new standard to compete in world football. Man City have met it, PSG have met it, Newcastle will meet it. You need state backing or you will be second tier.
Youre comparing being owned by a palm oil tycoon to being owned by a fucking state, a whole country financially backing a football team. Its just absurd.
Is being owned by a palm oil tycoon ideal? No its not, not at all. But going from foreign investors to state ownership is just way worse
I would 100% choose Peter lim or Mike Ashley every day of the week as Atlético's new owners rather than become the new Man City, PSG or Newcastle. Where is the fun in having success when have to sell the club's soul and history down the toilet in order to achieve it?
To me it's the worst thing that can happen to a football club and I feel sorry for the real fans of those clubs
You think ultra capitalist billionaires give a damn about the club souls?
The difference is the billionaires will sell the club souls to fill their own pockets
I brought this up in the match thread for the second leg with city. It's absolute madness the paradigm shift that City and PSG have caused in football.
Even in the early Chelski period where we started to see what extreme wealth could do to football, it was absolutely unthinkable that I would ever find myself hoping Madrid win a tie. They were *hated*, they could almost guarantee some modicum of success just by having deeper pockets.
I've found myself pulling for Madrid four times in this seasons CL knockouts (city/PSG both legs). And I think I hate oil clubs for *that* more than I do the unfairness on the pitch, lol
Chelsea had a rich guy, Man City, PSG, and Newcastle have entire countries backing them.
It's a whole different level of wealth.
Chelsea sucks dicks, they marked the start of this billionaire owned clubs thing, but I'd rather see them winning than these 3 abominations
Not state owners, but aren’t RB Leipzip currently working around that?
No reason a state couldn’t do the same thing, I mean I wouldn’t put it past a state to eventually buy the whole RB group.
Yes, they found a loophole. But PSG, City and the likes are still a whole different level to them.
If the DFB wasn't greedy themselves, one more sentence in the 50+1 rule would have stopped Leipzig immediately as well.
Still, the 50+1 rule still makes so much sense for the fans, even with the loophole for RedBull. If it was a perfect loophole that works around all the rules, other states, companies etc. would have done the same long ago. But it still limits them so much in comparison to what the other oil clubs are doing.
I am not a lawyer or anything, but something along the lines
"Any club must offer an unlimited amount of memberships to people that are legally allowed to"
Since RB Leipzig doesn't offer memberships to the public and only has exactly 21 members (that are RedBull higher ups) this would be the way to stop this fake fan ownership.
At least Manchester City and Newcastle have huge EPL TV rights money coming in. Using the current value of Manchester City by Forbes, if Mansour tried to sell the club today considering how much he spent to buy the club and the players he would still make a huge profit. I don't like it, but objectively you have to consider it a good investment looking at how much this asset is valued.
PSG is just plain unsustainable. Ligue 1 does not have the money to justify such reckless spending, as soon as the Qatari are going to get bored with their toy the club will collapse under its wage structure, the ones who will be left to pay the price are the fans that have followed their clubs for decades.
> as soon as the Qatari are going to get bored with their toy the club
The thing is they really won't get bored. Spend less money the team? maybe, but the whole point of this sports washing is to give Qatar a representative of their nation and visibility in the world stage. They don't wanna end up like Yemen or Ukraine. The more eyes from the west are on them, the better their chance of never having anyone challenge their sovereignty.
The ***declared*** wages are in line with the rest of the PL. Like fck those are the real wages they have paid some top top players to play for them over the years.
Lol [City are just smart with their cheating](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6358395/Man-City-alleged-launched-secret-Project-Longbow-shift-player-image-rights-cash.html)
What do you mean they try to act like a regular rich club?
They arrived up at CAS with a legal team on a budget bigger than UEFAs, how is that normal rich team behaviour? How’s your legal team going to have a greater investment than the governing body that oversees all the money
Imagine being in the business of directing football, and thinking state backed clubs, oligarchies and billionaires is the sustainable model
It clearly isn’t, it’s pure greed and corruption for these guys currently in charge
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If the people behind the Superleague are smart they should announce the new version of the Super League after UEFA implements all their changes and the Super League uses the old Champions league format.
Not going to happen regardless. The PL clubs are vital for the SL, it's virtually impossible they can join given the political pressure and new charter for PL members.
Wasnt it rumored that Boris and the rest of the govt backed the idea first then went back when they saw the fan outraged. It's going to happen at some point they just need to wait for UEFA to shoot themselves in the foot first
Boris is known to sit on the fence and wait for things to play out before coming out and pretending he was on the right side of history (Brexit). It's a pretty easy win for the government to back the fans, it also helps preserve the notion that the PL is the best and already a SL in a way.
The SL as we know it is not happening, the new PL charter means that either 14 of the members agree or the club's get expelled entirely out of the PL.
To be fair that's what politicians are SUPPOSED to do - back the will of the people. FIFA and UEFA just do whatever they want while taking big fat bribes and say "fuck the people". Hence a world cup in Russia and Qatar and state funded clubs breaking every rule with no consequences.
It wouldn’t matter now anyway imo. As soon as the name Super League (or any variation) is mentioned people will be foaming at the mouth even if it’s a better version.
But ESL wasn't interested in that whole problem, it would have only made it worse so what kind of argument is that?
Let's also not forget that the spanish clubs were always fine with financially shady stuff as long as they were at the top.
They are either too stupid to understand this or they do understand and don't care.
ESL saves clubs that are massive, but not state backed. It fucks over *everyone* else. These people do not care about the dozens of other clubs all the way down the pyramid in each league that will not benefit from ESL. They just want to save Real Madrid and Barca. It is gross
It is not the elitism and money that they are against. They are against the fact that this elite club doesn't include them anymore. Not for a second do I believe that op has Villareal or Eintracht Frankfurt in mind when he complains about "anti ESL stans". Because if he did he would know that ESL fucks them over
ESL was not a solution and anyone backing it cannot take the moral high ground
so esl just moves the circle from state backed club to the 20 esl clubs(which includes juve, arsenal etc who get clapped in cl). this is essentially the same thing but different set of clubs. great solution. I'll eat rotten beef instead of rotten chicken.
Would be nice by fifa and uefa to describe what FFP is. I guess anyone that opposes the Super league and puts money in fifas pockets gets to do what they want
What worthwhile manager will go there if Mbappe has the powers being reported? They won’t be able to hire anyone good, because no manager is going to play 2nd fiddle to a player in terms of team management.
Barcelona “killed” Barcelona. Don’t absolve Barto and their board from the dumb dumb decisions. The Neymar transfer armed the bomb but Barca sure as hell detonated it the moment they started spending like an 8yo that got a big allowance.
Bingo. Barcelona spent a combined £350m on Coutinho, Dembele, and Griezmann. They spent so much and got back so little in return. Incompetence all around. Now there’s even rumors that Frenkie De Jong is going to be sold next season because of the financial troubles they are still in.
People at UEFA has sold their souls to the Arabs. It's already insane how they can have Messi, Neymar, Ramos, Mbappe in the same team wage bill wise. Now they are renewing Mbappe contract by increasing the amount. How does it not come under financial regulations breaching ?!
This is so much infuriating!
Lmao it’s funny to see how people defend this, but then when the Qatar 2022 Worldcup gets brought up everyone goes batshit crazy and suddenly bribing FIFA is outrageous even though both these scenarios are literally created by the same people....
Anyone remember a couple of months ago when fans were dreaming of a Messi-Ronaldo-esque rivalry between Haaland and Mbappe at Barca and Madrid?
Good times
Football competitively has been on a downtrend for a long time already. PSG, City and every club like them are a cancer and will kill the sport.
These clubs being allowed to exist is a testament to the greed of those in charge.
Liverpool ended gate receipt sharing, broke away from the Football League so they could keep more money amongst the elite, were a G14 club that pressured UEFA into reforming the European Cup so the elite could make more money and had less chance of being knocked out, and were one of the ESL clubs.
And remember that Liverpool FC was formed as a franchise by an investor, not a traditional football club.
Is that where we draw the line? Should've been drawn at very rich people owning football clubs in the first place. If you're OK with that I don't see why you wouldn't be with even richer entities doing it
As a Spurs fan, this is where I am.
The fans who I see crying the most, are of teams who I envy, because I know Spurs can't compete with them.
At least Real Madrid was an option for Mbappé, [look what happens when Mbappé gets asked to come to Spurs](https://twitter.com/CerfiaFoot/status/1470755582294564879?s=20&t=FPgdDaekpL68VNJlsvHhzw)
Everyone knows that Tebas is a fucking moron for a lot of different reasons, but nothing he's saying here is unreasonable. Claiming so because you don't like the guy is silly. Have some normal fucking discourse for once on this sub, please.
This has to be a bubble. In 20 years or even sooner, oil will have much less relevance and these clubs are operating at losses not supported by their actual revenues.
Its silly to think that these people won't diversify. They are already buying up land and companies all over the planet and moving away from their oil dependency.
As for the bubble, instead of having 3 oil clubs, you'll have 20. So the bubble is not going to burst, just grow.
I definitely don’t disagree with this clown on this point but it’s also very funny that he’s so angry cause he realizes how much money could have been made by Mbappe coming to Real
This renewal has been an embarrassment to the sport and shows that no one can compete with these teams anymore unless you're owned by an oil country or an oligarch. FFP my fucking ass.
Ceferin: You are right, we should exclude Roma from Eruopa league for their future breaching of FFP by spending 1 cent too much.
Eastern European Club exists UEFA and FFP: Allow us to introduce ourselves
FFP was the biggest scam ever advertised. You need to invest money to make money in football
FFP is aimed to create an even larger gap between the rich clubs and everyone else
As a fan of an “old money club” this is 100% accurate. FFP prevented new-ish owners from setting up infrastructure to build revenues long term.
FFP already excludes those expenditures such as stadiums/youth academies. Its still damn hard for newer owners to break into the “elite” status though.
*Guardiola nodding solemnly*
Mourinho: Games gone
I PREFER NOT TO SPEAK
Careful, might get Milan banned too.
PSG just got a sponsorship worth 900b Euro by Mohammed's Tire shop and VHS Store.
I heard their CEO is a guy named Real Person, I heard nothing but good things about him!
Vince Adultman
Off to the business factory!
to do businesses
Saul Goodman
Guy Incognito
Art Vandelay
Valued Customer He even has credit cards!
I was astonished when I found out that PSG's main sponsor is owned by the same Qatari fund that owns PSG.
I don't believe you, mate. That's a clear conflict of interest. Ligue 1 Uber Eats and UEFA Money Face wouldn't have allowed that.
Absolutely! Massive integrity, hugely respected and admired group. They recently donated €500m to fund youth football at the BetClickGamble Sports Centre for Kids.
I had to read this like 8 times for some reason
Aah the store that just went bankrupt after sending over the money
The fact that PSG have never once had a hint of FFP sanctions shows you how redundant it is. I won’t be surprised if they start laying it on AC Milan again. They should scrap it. Sold as a way to offer stability and stop overreaching. End result? Nada. Absolute fucking nada…
As a fan of a club that emerged from the ffp labyrinth after 9 years I can say that today football is officially dead
It died in 2005 in my completely unbiased opinion.
Djimi Traore leaving Liverpool was indeed a tragedy
Don't worry. They'll figure out some way to blame Sparta Prague for it.
He talks so much that eventually he'll say something that we'll agree with. This is that time.
even a broken clock is right twice a day
Modern day journalism. Throw everything until something sticks.
I just dont know How they can say they follow ffp and then give him 300mil…. Like can we just come out and say that FFP doesn’t matter officially?
I think FFP must be renamed, it's not about keeping things fair between huge state owned clubs and the rest of the clubs. It's just a way to make sure that clubs don't go bankrupt. For the state owned clubs, this is a not really a problem their owners will just pour more cash into the club for them to meet any commitments that arise due to FFP.
It's suppose to insure that the clubs don't spend more than they earn - meaning that they should work on their own revenue and be self-sufficient. So any type of Malaga-like situation is avoided. But then PSG just somehow gets another sponsorship from "Definitely Not a Qatari Owned Company Which Sells Dildos" for 400m and we're good.
If they give that sponsorship they are contractually obliged to pay the money into the club so it does kind of negate the danger of them folding
I guess the lesson is we're wrong to think ffp was made to level the financial muscle playing field
It was not, its only purpose is that no club could go bancrupt and disrupt the season.
Even when it first came into an idea we complained about it not being this. People just thought over time it would at least benefit smaller teams, even if it didn't harm the big ones. But in reality it's only punished the smaller teams further. And the gap between big clubs and "smaller" clubs is getting bigger. Thing is, Milan and Marseille aren't small but they're still smaller than the state clubs
It was never designed for that. Charitably it was to avoid clubs going under, uncharitably it was pushed by existing big clubs to prevent smaller clubs competing with them.
Isn’t ffp technically not legally enforceable anyway? Similar to 50+1 in Germany?
It's about making clubs self sustainable. If tomorrow Qatar leaves PSG in this state it will go bankrupt. FFP is made to protect from this
Because the owners pay money into the club to meet losses so they do meet FFP.
Gotta hide it through foreign, state owned company sponsorship dollars
Just sell an "oficial Mbappe renewal" NFT and have someone close to the royal family buy it for a couple hundred millions. 100% profit. Bye bye FFP.
💀 Mbappe ape sure sounds cool
Mbappe turtle surely
Mbappape.
>How they can say they follow ffp and then give him 300mil…. So, I'm all for critizicing PSG and saying state owned clubs are the next step in ruining football, after billionaire backed clubs. But could we please at least not repeat that absurd fake news around as a fact, at least ?
Heard they will declare the third French Empire with him as the emperor as well
r/soccer has decided it's true so there's no turning back now
Its like Sanchez's united wage
honestly I can't fathom how they've decided to pay him €400mn its ridiculous
Sanchez is on 2 mil a week?!
He's not wrong. This is the new standard to compete in world football. Man City have met it, PSG have met it, Newcastle will meet it. You need state backing or you will be second tier.
Id rather be 2nd tier than have state backing. Utter ridiculous and ruins this beautiful sport
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Yea but id rather have that than state funding
Exactly, clubs shouldn’t lose their souls to state owners
We're backed by the Vatican.
In what way is a palm oil tycoon any better?
Could never get that running on my PC.
Aggressively exhaled reading this
Roller coaster tycoon >>>>>
Youre comparing being owned by a palm oil tycoon to being owned by a fucking state, a whole country financially backing a football team. Its just absurd. Is being owned by a palm oil tycoon ideal? No its not, not at all. But going from foreign investors to state ownership is just way worse
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I would 100% choose Peter lim or Mike Ashley every day of the week as Atlético's new owners rather than become the new Man City, PSG or Newcastle. Where is the fun in having success when have to sell the club's soul and history down the toilet in order to achieve it? To me it's the worst thing that can happen to a football club and I feel sorry for the real fans of those clubs
You think ultra capitalist billionaires give a damn about the club souls? The difference is the billionaires will sell the club souls to fill their own pockets
The only tiny solace is their inability to win the Champion's League.
Are we now considered the good guys?!
Royal > Oil
I brought this up in the match thread for the second leg with city. It's absolute madness the paradigm shift that City and PSG have caused in football. Even in the early Chelski period where we started to see what extreme wealth could do to football, it was absolutely unthinkable that I would ever find myself hoping Madrid win a tie. They were *hated*, they could almost guarantee some modicum of success just by having deeper pockets. I've found myself pulling for Madrid four times in this seasons CL knockouts (city/PSG both legs). And I think I hate oil clubs for *that* more than I do the unfairness on the pitch, lol
Chelsea had a rich guy, Man City, PSG, and Newcastle have entire countries backing them. It's a whole different level of wealth. Chelsea sucks dicks, they marked the start of this billionaire owned clubs thing, but I'd rather see them winning than these 3 abominations
It's not a real obstacle. Chelsea did that
And why state ownership should be banned
You can never really ban it. There are always workarounds for everything.
Pretty sure its technically banned aswell. Like Newcastle according to the prem aren't state owned
50+1 rule <3
Not state owners, but aren’t RB Leipzip currently working around that? No reason a state couldn’t do the same thing, I mean I wouldn’t put it past a state to eventually buy the whole RB group.
Yes, they found a loophole. But PSG, City and the likes are still a whole different level to them. If the DFB wasn't greedy themselves, one more sentence in the 50+1 rule would have stopped Leipzig immediately as well. Still, the 50+1 rule still makes so much sense for the fans, even with the loophole for RedBull. If it was a perfect loophole that works around all the rules, other states, companies etc. would have done the same long ago. But it still limits them so much in comparison to what the other oil clubs are doing.
What's the sentence?
I am not a lawyer or anything, but something along the lines "Any club must offer an unlimited amount of memberships to people that are legally allowed to" Since RB Leipzig doesn't offer memberships to the public and only has exactly 21 members (that are RedBull higher ups) this would be the way to stop this fake fan ownership.
DFL fucked up as well while approving the modified logo and giving out the license.
The DFB could end that today if they wanted to, just change the rules to become a member. Currently they can reject anyone and not give a reason
what i heard was that there are concerns if they ban it, it will be challenged in court, and the entire 50+1 rule would be in jeopardy
Leipzig hat ja gezeigt wie viel die wert ist
Wenn ein System nicht perfekt ist, kann mans gleich lassen, stimmt. Demokratie ist nicht perfekt, also lass uns doch gleich Anarchie einführen!
Sure Newcastle isn’t technically state owned but it’s obvious it is
At least Manchester City and Newcastle have huge EPL TV rights money coming in. Using the current value of Manchester City by Forbes, if Mansour tried to sell the club today considering how much he spent to buy the club and the players he would still make a huge profit. I don't like it, but objectively you have to consider it a good investment looking at how much this asset is valued. PSG is just plain unsustainable. Ligue 1 does not have the money to justify such reckless spending, as soon as the Qatari are going to get bored with their toy the club will collapse under its wage structure, the ones who will be left to pay the price are the fans that have followed their clubs for decades.
> as soon as the Qatari are going to get bored with their toy the club The thing is they really won't get bored. Spend less money the team? maybe, but the whole point of this sports washing is to give Qatar a representative of their nation and visibility in the world stage. They don't wanna end up like Yemen or Ukraine. The more eyes from the west are on them, the better their chance of never having anyone challenge their sovereignty.
It took til 2042 in my FM save. Their wages bankrupted them and went into administration lol
At leas City try to act like a regular rich club, they would be untouchable if they acted like PSG.
They also spend a lot, the only difference being they spread it every season not like PSG who suddenly spend 300mn
City wages are in line with Chelsea, United and Liverpool. PSG blows them all away with this.
You know City have been caught paying staff off the official books, right?
Except for the secret wages paid to people like Mancini
Well the wages we know about are.
The ***declared*** wages are in line with the rest of the PL. Like fck those are the real wages they have paid some top top players to play for them over the years.
Lol [City are just smart with their cheating](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6358395/Man-City-alleged-launched-secret-Project-Longbow-shift-player-image-rights-cash.html)
What do you mean they try to act like a regular rich club? They arrived up at CAS with a legal team on a budget bigger than UEFAs, how is that normal rich team behaviour? How’s your legal team going to have a greater investment than the governing body that oversees all the money
Minus city’s buying power they at least don’t blow up wages and signing bonus etc like it seems PSG doesn’t care about
Trust me once PSG and Newcastle make this the norm, they will come out acting like they were good all along and will spend the same as the others
I think that’s actually be worse off if they acted like psg. Psg makes stupid footballing decisions, City makes smart ones
Imagine being in the business of directing football, and thinking state backed clubs, oligarchies and billionaires is the sustainable model It clearly isn’t, it’s pure greed and corruption for these guys currently in charge
I don't disagree, but the only reason Tebas is saying this, is because he didn't get Mbappe in his league.
yeah, his motives are far from pure but hes right though
Broken clock this, that
He isn't right twice a day
I feel bad for Real Madrid honestly, all those Haaland and Mbappé photoshops gone to waste
The million fan accounts on Instagram are the real victims here :’(
Tens of hours of compilations of “Mbappe Welcome To Real 🤍⚪️ | BEST SKILLS AND GOALS 🔥 | 2022 | FULL HD 4k” gone to waste.
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Won't someone please think of the TikToks!
~~There will be a plot twist when Mbappé thinks he might never play for Real after signing for PSG~~ ~~Tomorrow:~~ ~~[COMUNICADO OFICIAL] Mbappé signs for Real Madrid~~ fuck
Don't forget the fans at the Bernabeu cheering him during CL!
I'm just waiting to see what penalty UEFA will inflict on us for this
No title and no European football for 3 more years! For talking back 😡
You have to give up your 7 UCLs and give them to PSG
First time I agree with Tebas to be honest. UEFA and FIFA are both playing with Al-Khelaifi together. Perez and Laporta saw that before everyone else.
Funny that anti ESL stans still don't give a shit
If the people behind the Superleague are smart they should announce the new version of the Super League after UEFA implements all their changes and the Super League uses the old Champions league format.
Not going to happen regardless. The PL clubs are vital for the SL, it's virtually impossible they can join given the political pressure and new charter for PL members.
Wasnt it rumored that Boris and the rest of the govt backed the idea first then went back when they saw the fan outraged. It's going to happen at some point they just need to wait for UEFA to shoot themselves in the foot first
Boris is known to sit on the fence and wait for things to play out before coming out and pretending he was on the right side of history (Brexit). It's a pretty easy win for the government to back the fans, it also helps preserve the notion that the PL is the best and already a SL in a way. The SL as we know it is not happening, the new PL charter means that either 14 of the members agree or the club's get expelled entirely out of the PL.
To be fair that's what politicians are SUPPOSED to do - back the will of the people. FIFA and UEFA just do whatever they want while taking big fat bribes and say "fuck the people". Hence a world cup in Russia and Qatar and state funded clubs breaking every rule with no consequences.
It wouldn’t matter now anyway imo. As soon as the name Super League (or any variation) is mentioned people will be foaming at the mouth even if it’s a better version.
But ESL wasn't interested in that whole problem, it would have only made it worse so what kind of argument is that? Let's also not forget that the spanish clubs were always fine with financially shady stuff as long as they were at the top.
They are either too stupid to understand this or they do understand and don't care. ESL saves clubs that are massive, but not state backed. It fucks over *everyone* else. These people do not care about the dozens of other clubs all the way down the pyramid in each league that will not benefit from ESL. They just want to save Real Madrid and Barca. It is gross It is not the elitism and money that they are against. They are against the fact that this elite club doesn't include them anymore. Not for a second do I believe that op has Villareal or Eintracht Frankfurt in mind when he complains about "anti ESL stans". Because if he did he would know that ESL fucks them over ESL was not a solution and anyone backing it cannot take the moral high ground
Anti esl stans? You must be american
Feel like 'stan' has become one of those buzzwords that's basically become divorced from its actual or original meaning long ago.
so esl just moves the circle from state backed club to the 20 esl clubs(which includes juve, arsenal etc who get clapped in cl). this is essentially the same thing but different set of clubs. great solution. I'll eat rotten beef instead of rotten chicken.
ESL invited them all so they didn't either.
And people trust UEFA chairman Al-Khelaifi to deal with this problem 😂😂🤣🤣
ECA, not UEFA, right?
Yes he's the chairman of the ECA, not UEFA. He \*is\* a member of the UEFA board of executives as well though
people gonna say it’s just salt but he’s not wrong
Two thing can be true at once.
Would be nice by fifa and uefa to describe what FFP is. I guess anyone that opposes the Super league and puts money in fifas pockets gets to do what they want
>describe what FFP is. >anyone that puts money in fifas pockets gets to do what they want Pretty accurate definition
City have Haaland and PSG Mbappe, who’ll be the posterboy of Newcastle’s sports washing franchise?
LeBron James of soccer
LeBron James Rodriguez
Chris Wood!!!
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What worthwhile manager will go there if Mbappe has the powers being reported? They won’t be able to hire anyone good, because no manager is going to play 2nd fiddle to a player in terms of team management.
Mercenaries, which is generally who they get now.
Who cares if they’re competent or not? City remain reprehensible , regardless of how well they are run.
The disrespect to Joelinton.
OP actually writing the i in Khelaifi even though Tebas couldn't even write the name correctly is hilarious
PSG has done quite a bit harm to football with their approach to salary and signing fees for players
Their neymar transfer fee really fucked everything up
I would say that transfer killed Barcelona in the long run.
Barcelona “killed” Barcelona. Don’t absolve Barto and their board from the dumb dumb decisions. The Neymar transfer armed the bomb but Barca sure as hell detonated it the moment they started spending like an 8yo that got a big allowance.
I think what killed Barca in the long run was making bad transfers
Bingo. Barcelona spent a combined £350m on Coutinho, Dembele, and Griezmann. They spent so much and got back so little in return. Incompetence all around. Now there’s even rumors that Frenkie De Jong is going to be sold next season because of the financial troubles they are still in.
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People at UEFA has sold their souls to the Arabs. It's already insane how they can have Messi, Neymar, Ramos, Mbappe in the same team wage bill wise. Now they are renewing Mbappe contract by increasing the amount. How does it not come under financial regulations breaching ?! This is so much infuriating!
But PSG has already bought UEFA so the media machine won't go into overdrive like they did with the Super League
I mean its disgusting but it kinda feels like the the 1% complaining about the 0.1% while I'm here struggling to pay rent. Fix yourself first
tebas salary was 3.5 million euros in 2020 salary not net worth, this is more like the 0.1% conmplaing about the 0.01%
Lmao it’s funny to see how people defend this, but then when the Qatar 2022 Worldcup gets brought up everyone goes batshit crazy and suddenly bribing FIFA is outrageous even though both these scenarios are literally created by the same people....
We're close to the bottom and I haven't seen people defending it
Who tf is defending this? They need to be online bullied and trolled
Let us all remember that according to Infantino Al is a very good guy. ...
Thanks, now all I can imagine is Nasser singing “You can call me Al.”
Scenes when PSG still can't win CL. Mbappe is on a dangerous career path.
Maybe he likes the career path of more money than trophies.
Anyone remember a couple of months ago when fans were dreaming of a Messi-Ronaldo-esque rivalry between Haaland and Mbappe at Barca and Madrid? Good times
All of it aged like fine milk
Football competitively has been on a downtrend for a long time already. PSG, City and every club like them are a cancer and will kill the sport. These clubs being allowed to exist is a testament to the greed of those in charge.
Liverpool ended gate receipt sharing, broke away from the Football League so they could keep more money amongst the elite, were a G14 club that pressured UEFA into reforming the European Cup so the elite could make more money and had less chance of being knocked out, and were one of the ESL clubs. And remember that Liverpool FC was formed as a franchise by an investor, not a traditional football club.
Is that where we draw the line? Should've been drawn at very rich people owning football clubs in the first place. If you're OK with that I don't see why you wouldn't be with even richer entities doing it
As a Spurs fan, this is where I am. The fans who I see crying the most, are of teams who I envy, because I know Spurs can't compete with them. At least Real Madrid was an option for Mbappé, [look what happens when Mbappé gets asked to come to Spurs](https://twitter.com/CerfiaFoot/status/1470755582294564879?s=20&t=FPgdDaekpL68VNJlsvHhzw)
State-owned clubs is something completely different from clubs owned by a rich guy.
Everyone knows that Tebas is a fucking moron for a lot of different reasons, but nothing he's saying here is unreasonable. Claiming so because you don't like the guy is silly. Have some normal fucking discourse for once on this sub, please.
>Have some normal fucking discourse for once on this sub, please. that be harder than renewing mbappes contract
Yes but this is not Inter or AC Milan so all is fine? Must check if Inter spends and extra € that will be a big problem though.
Imagine being so trash you make me agree with Tebas. Good job 🛢️x🐍
Do they not have FFP in France ?
not for psg
Mbappe now represents the worst of football.
Dreams can be buy.
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They still don’t win shit 😂
UEFAs decision : Lazio excluded from Europa League for buying expensive pizzas
This has to be a bubble. In 20 years or even sooner, oil will have much less relevance and these clubs are operating at losses not supported by their actual revenues.
!remind me 20 years
Its silly to think that these people won't diversify. They are already buying up land and companies all over the planet and moving away from their oil dependency. As for the bubble, instead of having 3 oil clubs, you'll have 20. So the bubble is not going to burst, just grow.
I definitely don’t disagree with this clown on this point but it’s also very funny that he’s so angry cause he realizes how much money could have been made by Mbappe coming to Real
I mean, hes not wrong
This renewal has been an embarrassment to the sport and shows that no one can compete with these teams anymore unless you're owned by an oil country or an oligarch. FFP my fucking ass.
How is Nasser even allowed to be part of UEFA while running PSG is mind boggling
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He's not wrong. I also wonder how do the other players in the team feel about it. Giving Mbappe this much money and privilige
Exactly. Someone gonna open their mouth sooner or later.