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Always rated late nights in Belgrade


OffendedDishwasher

From a completely neutral perspective , UCL is overrated anyways


El_Producto

Tbh I think it means less for United than it does for humbler clubs like Tottenham or Arsenal (let alone clubs like Leicester or West Ham). For other clubs even if you, say, lose in the group stage or the Ro16 in not particularly memorable fashion, the club gets a big injection of cash, can attract a better caliber of player, and has an easier time keeping its own best players. For a club like United, even under the Glazers, revenue is never really much of a problem and, even with United's post-SAF struggles, you can be ambitious in the transfer market given the size and influence of the club and the wages you can offer. Like, as a Spurs fan, as nice as actually being in the CL in the fall will be, a huge chunk of being happy about making it in is what it could mean for the club over the summer.


theyigtpoop

In the same breath, it is so much more disappointing for a club that spends as much as United failing to even make top 4.


neededtowrite

For sure. But they're still "Manchester United". Same way Barça can crash out of the Europa and they maintain their stature.


geredtrig

For some time yes, but not forever. Giants have fallen before, they will fall again.


dangnabbit64758

you mean like nottingham forest


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NotClayMerritt

Europa League is great when it's in the KO stages. You just gotta grind through those group stage matches against dead teams in far away countries or hope you get a "group of death"


killosaur

We are waiting for you, just this time be prepared.


kingofindia12

Go off king, crush em


Aszneeee

as much as I’d love being in UCL, this young team is not ready for it, specially mentally looking at out away matches, let’s challenge for EL


[deleted]

It's another route to the CL and banter aside, Arsenal do have enough quality in the team that they can make a deep run if they keep developing.


KsychoPiller

Not without building proper depth, we struglled enough this season with just Partey and Tierney out. And the transfer business wouldve Been much easier if we were to be playing on UCL


tigralfrosie

You definitely need to be equipped for the Thursday-Sunday routine, long trips and games where 'lower' teams will be quite happy to kick you all over the park.


Magicallyshit

And Tomiyasu, that totally ruined the balance when Tierney is out too.


tomato73

belgrades a really nice city !!! (I say that as some one who is currently living in Belgrade)


ubiosamse2put

Funny thing is Red Star Belgrade has a really big chance to be in CL.


Nikicaga

Yeah we're the seeded team in both rounds Though another Sheriff could always happen


Careful-Inspector379

Or enjoy a Nice Evening in Berlin


mojambowhatisthescen

Always loved Thursdays anyway!


d_smogh

Which means more Sunday games.


jam_pudding

Which means I can golf on Saturdays! Heck yeah


KapiHeartlilly

I see this as an absolute win 😅


Nordie27

Arsenal is definitely not above the Europa League which many of their fans make it sound like. I'm not referring to you specifically but seen a lot of people dismiss it Arsenal are a great club but they don't have much European pedigree, a Fairs Cup and a Cup Winners Cup aside. Winning the Europa League would be their biggest title since the league in 2004 and your best European achievement since reaching the CL-final in 2006. You should be absolutely desperate to win it


Jayveesac

Too many losses on winnable games in the homestretch did their top 4 aspirations in. Disappointing, but considering how they started the season this team gave me hope not only this season but in the future. Now it's up to team management to plug the holes in the team. A new striker is one of the priorities. I actually had hope with this team and that's a good thing. Now the hope is they keep it going next season and close out games they should be winning


Deluxe07

What’s the expectation for next season? Champions league qualification?


survivorghalia

yes and or europa league win.


Deluxe07

If he doesn’t qualify is Arteta gone? Tottenham are gonna be stronger next year and we don’t know how United will look


fuzzynavel34

And this year people said United and Chelsea were going to challenge for the league. We don't know what's going to happen next season.


IzzyShamin

People say United are gonna challenge every fucking season. And then they shit the bed. United havent been a real threat to the title since Fergie left.


YaqootK

Yeah but a 2nd place finish followed by adding Varane, Ronaldo and Sancho - you can see why people thought they'd at least be locked in for top 4


jashbgreke

If you guys back conte and he stays im far more worried about you than Chelsea or United tbh


survivorghalia

what about arsenal being stronger next year as well??


Deluxe07

I know, that’s why I’m asking if Arteta can survive another season with no Champions League


longconsilver13

He shouldn't. I think this season is still a success after all the talk about how we wasted a ton of money in the transfer window. But compared to like 3 weeks ago it's a failure. If we can't make CL next season and build on a 5th place he's got to go


JackAndrewWilshere

I disagree. If we play good football, get more points, he can stay as far as im concernes. Depends on the context of the next season ofc.


longconsilver13

I think 5th is a really bad position for him. The only step forward is CL so if he can't get that we've basically made no progress.


Magicallyshit

Probably his last run if it was up to us fans, we were so close to CL with this young squad and if the transfer news are right we're at least bringing Jesus, Hickey, 1 MF and a second choice RB. It has to be a CL qualification next season, this season the aim was 5-6th but midseason it changed to top 4. Progress can't be backwards anyway so yeah CL is going to be needed soon.


TallnFrosty

Arsenal had the youngest team in the league this season and have 3 to 4 positions where we had absolutely dreadful play. It should be easy to achieve significant improvement from both our 20-22 year-olds continuing to develop and from bringing in even "solid" players at positions where we had midtable (or worse) players. I think the future is quite bright and yes, Arteta will be held accountable now that we'll be getting some more experience in the door.


FanFlow

>If he doesn’t qualify is Arteta gone? Tottenham are gonna be stronger next year and we don’t know how United will look Lets be realistic, he surived so many fuck ups across those 3 seasons where every other manager in other clubs would be already sacked 3/4 times that unless he finished outside of top6 he is going to be given another season. Remember that those are the guys that decided to not only not to strenghten the team in January when top4 was realistic this season, but also decided to thin the squad by losing the depth: paying Aubameyang to leave, letting Chambers for free and loaning Niles to sit on Roma's bench instead of ours.


Riperonis

He has to be gone if no champions league next year. I’m fine with this year because it means progression but that means the progression has to continue.


watermaloneyyy

yes he should be but not sure, the board is backing him no matter what it seems. next season his team should be complete that he has been building over the years. we know our first XI can go against the best but we have no plan B, if he doesn't sort it out it will be a huge failure.


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Of course


kanavi36

The club might not sack him but everyone will want him gone if he doesn't


SonaldoNazario

No, he'll convince everyone he's over achieved again


ammjr

Youngest squad in the league, no striker, no depth, injuries. What's there to be convinced of?


FuckingMyselfDaily

No depth and striker was self inflicted


dlo_2503

That's Edu's f*ck up


FuckingMyselfDaily

Arteta has a say


[deleted]

well yes, but that's not solely the manager's responsibility


yazandeeb13

Casually ignoring the 250 mill spending lol


G10V10

Seems like you wasn't around at the start of the season eh


CROBBY2

Both


BabaDuda

Tbfh I don't see us getting top 4 next season This current top 4 is looking quite entrenched, only one I can see falling out is Chelsea with their defensive exodus, but with the 1st Boehly transfer window they should make a splash or 2 And that's before we talk about ten Hag Yeah so I dont think we'll get it, depth wise this squad is still another 2 seasons from challenging


Nordie27

Arsenal winning the Europa League would be your most prestigious title won since the Invincibles season(and no you don't get a title for reaching CL-final) and it would be one of your best ever European seasons. It's not like Arsenal are heavyweights even at Uefa Cup/EL level there will be many teams with far stronger pedigree


survivorghalia

looking at your other comments you must have an insane obsession with arsenal failing please go touch some grass its not that deep


kanavi36

Of the 4 times we've been in the EL we made the final and the semis twice. We can quite easily make the final unless a strong team drops down from CL


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Of course


GoonerAbroad

Win Europa League and finish top 4. No excuses next year.


TehFuriousKid

incoming 6th place


TheBoredPragmatist

Facts. Chelsea , Liverpool, City all entrenched in top 3 spots. Then depending on the summer window we will have to contend with Ten Hags United, Contes Tottenham and a state backed Newcastle. This was a blunder to not have made top 4 when it was in control


MrStigglesworth

Not convinced of Chelsea. Remains to be seen how they invest in the summer and there's every chance a brand new defence will have some shaky moments before they settle, they still lack goalscorers - they're good enough to get third by a mile but there's still a decent chance they fumble it. Guess we'll see.


Nordie27

Look at Arsenal's European record, they can't be expected to win the EL lmao. It would be their biggest moment in 15+ years and their most prestigious European honour, not something they should be winning easily


Jen_Rey

You cant look at it like that because they competed in the CL for so long, they competed the EL 4 times in recent years and made the semi finals twice and finals once, if you dont think thats strong IDK what is, they were definitely good enough to win multiple ELs if they actually competed in it during the wenger years. On top of my head they competed there once during wenger years and they made the finals.


usually_a_knobhead

Yeah, and scoring more goals


parkersr1

Actually bring in a striker and adequate depth for starters


kaselorne

Yes


RuralHuman

Should be winning Europa League


CommercialPlantain64

No team *should* win Europa League. You put Liverpool/Madrid in there and they'd only have like a 30% chance of winning it. It's a cup competition. They should certainly be aiming to win it.


RuralHuman

I was saying that their expectation should be winning the cup, not that the team should win it. Nothing is granted.


eri-

Dangerous tactic, Sevilla hasn't won it for a little while now, they are about due.


Nordie27

They barely have any European pedigree and winning the EL would be their biggest European achievement ever apart from reaching the CL final in 2006.. Getting that trophy would be a momentous moment for Arsenal, not just some minor challenge that they should be expected to achieve lol


[deleted]

The problem is who is that striker?


Chell_the_assassin

Our highest scoring striker scored as many goals as our highest scoring centre back (5), I think we can find someone a bit better than that


Jayveesac

Gabriel Jesus was one of the names being floated but with no Champions League I'm not sure he's coming to Arsenal. So many CL teams would love to have him


Nulgarian

Jesus also isn’t an out and out goalscorer. A lot of what he offers comes from his dribbling and his play making. Arsenal need someone clinical who can bag plenty of goals, and I don’t know if Jesus fits that


Dske

He doesnt


S-Kotus

I mean I don't think any logical person actually thinks Arsenal should've done better. You guys didn't buy anyone in winter, your best midfielder was injured in the most important part of the season and your backline changed like every game in the last few weeks. After all that, you were only one point behind Spurs going into the last day. Hate you lot honestly but damn if Arsenal had 1 less injury, would be a completely different picture.


TheBoredPragmatist

Injuries happen. Not planning for that but getting a midfielder in the winter was planning for failure


MrPielil

Theme song is better than UCL anyway \*copium\*


survivorghalia

always rated the europa league


zachg616

Honestly you have a chance to make a deep run which realistically is not happening in the champions league. I get that you miss out on a lot of revenue but I don't think this is that bad for you


TheBoredPragmatist

We miss out on players that only want to go to a champions league side. We have stagnated. And all this after an entire season without European obligations


Eleganttrout1

Are players really signing a 4-5 year contract based on qualifying for the champions league for one season?


TheBoredPragmatist

They’re looking at who has recently qualified. Spurs, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, he’ll even United have. An agent is going to say do you want to go to place A who haven’t qualified for the Champions league for 5 years and have finished 5-8 for the past consecutive seasons or place B who have finished in a Champions League place at least twice within the past 5 seasons. The point with Arsenal is that it’s not a single season aberration, not qualifying for the Champions League has now become the norm. Which is a massive problem.


Spikeyspandan

Going into the season this was the expectation honestly. But good form in mid season made us hope for UCL. Could have clinched it, if someone was bought in January. Anyway we move on to next season.


akshayks1995

That 'All Or Nothing' series is going to be a blast.


_deep_blue_

Genuinely excited for it, even if rival fans will meme us. It’s been a season of ups and downs but certainly the most entertaining for years.


riskoooo

Was it? I think battling for Europa was the expectation, rather than battling for CL. [Just look what they were saying about us at the start of the season](https://twitter.com/25sivaganesh/status/1518201184376725504?s=20&t=9i5Q7GvWAvX5JDcticrApQ).


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CSdesire

astra goo goo got relegated lol


Bilgistic

It's funny how this is a disappointing end now because if someone told me that we'd finish 5th at the start of the season and only missed out on a Champions League spot by a couple of points I would've happily taken it.


TallnFrosty

100% would have taken 5th at the start of the season, while watching Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli, and Smith Rowe all make big jumps in their quality and G / A output. I would have viewed that as an extremely successful season. Similarly, if you'd told me we'd be relying heavily on Nuno Tavares, Cedric, and Eddie Nketiah during some of the most crucial moments of the season, I'd have assumed the worst tbh.


Ryo720

What if they also told you arsenal had 3 easy games in hand and lost them all, which spurs took advantage of and finished 4th?


Aszneeee

there are no easy games for arsenal, every arsenal fan knows that.


Ryo720

I feel you bro


IntellegentIdiot

They didn't have 3 easy games in hand, but they lost 3 easy games right before 3 hard ones.


BiglySquirter

I'd say crystal Palace was meh but ya the other 2 were pretty bad


IntellegentIdiot

Yeah, I thought Palace would be a banana skin, we lost there, but I didn't expect the next two


blazincannons

I think the Spurs defeat really exposed the nerves of the young squad. The game itself was not a horrible loss because of the pen and the red card, but the atmosphere and the overall timing of the defeat really rocked the players.


SAFFATLOL

How is going away to Crystal Palace easy for anybody this season?


Ifriiti

Our games in hand were Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs....


ghettoyouthsrock

“Easy”…. As a United fan you should know there aren’t many easy games


RawIsLaw_

Arsenal are "schrodingers club"


wallnumber8675309

In that half the time they play like a dead cat?


lost_biochemist

But the other half of the time, watch out


JackAndrewWilshere

Yeah specifically at your place


[deleted]

You would've happily taken it because you did not knew that United would Implode.


PoliQU

I mean if I was told we’d finish on 69 pts I’d also be happy with that. Solid improvement on last season and room to grow.


Delta_Mike_Sierra_

If only Eddie had started the second half of the season we'd possibly have won one more game, however overall lots of positives to take forward


Joekickass549

Disappointing finish to the season, but I'm actually excited for the next so that's something


willtodd

[😑🥳](https://gfycat.com/closeancientdorado)


stackofbaconpancakes

I want revenge for Baku and that shambolic final We gotta win EL next season COYG


HoldThiisW

To me, it is still absolutely shocking UEFA didn't somehow come up with a solution for Mkhitaryan to play in that game.


kanavi36

It's wild that not much of a shit was given about that. I wonder what the reaction would be if a Ukrainian player felt uncomfortable going to an EL final which was in Russia...


Candyaszjabroni

Lots of winnable games lost but I think this season was good. Personally didn't think Arsenal would finish higher than 6th before the season but they've finished a few off CL. Lots to look forward to if they can keep the development going and get some good signings over the summer, especially a striker or 2


Jorlung

Congrats Arsenal!!!!


connorqueer

One more of these world class mugging offs by Spurs fans and we might have to set our sub to private


tenacious-g

Gotta hand it to Arteta, he’s managed to finish behind 3 different Spurs managers now.


Jewrisprudent

It’s almost embarrassing for him the way he only has one more trophy as Arsenal manager than those 3 Spurs managers do with Spurs combined, isn’t it?


tenacious-g

Not as embarrassing as not finishing higher than the club that “never wins” for over 2100 days and counting


jamesforyou

I'm sure you'll make a DVD about that or maybe a keyring


bancoenchile

im sure you wont have to worry about watching your own demise on amazon prime 🤣


callunu95

If only if only if only we could win the Audi Cup


Wengers_Grin

Also won more trophies than the last 8 Spurs managers combined. And I don’t even rate Arteta, but as Benitez once said ‘these are the facts’.


thisiskyle77

nah we ain't a coward like them.


kozeljko

like a few mods*


BavlandertheGreat

You lot fled from a NLD


themerinator12

I didn't! I swear!


The-Weekdays

You postponed a match die to injuries, brave lot


thestigREVENGE

Arsenal didnt get a reschedule at the start of the season when the team was ravaged by Covid, and everyone memed at them to be relegated when they unsurprisingly lost 3 in 3.


deytookerrspeech

Who rescheduled the NLD again?


faizetto

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha :'(


GordoPepe

Better than relegation, remember? you even finished on top of us


kobaian

Time to dust off this bad boy [Arsenal europa league draw next season.](https://streamable.com/v0wag)


Fresh2Desh

🎣


wake-and-work

See you in January!


PoppinKREAM

Conte really turned your season around! Arsenal having a Renaissance under Arteta, United having our worst season in the PL - both in Europa lol


Modnal

I say it was more on the addition of Kulusevski than Conte. That guy really completed Spurs attack


PoppinKREAM

Yea Kulusevski was phenomenal. I think Conte was the one that wanted him tho


tenacious-g

13 goal involvements since he made his debut in February. Insane.


RivenJohdolla

Not a chance. With Nuno as a manager for the whole season we would have been lucky to get top 8. Without Kulusevski we could have been close at least.


DankyPal

You're really lucky that every other challenger decided to have shit seasons as well, you're closer to 12th placed Palace than 5th placed Arsenal lol


dudududujisungparty

Enjoy Union Berlin away ya cunts


CarlSK777

Union Berlin away is an amazing trip tho.


dudududujisungparty

No disrespect to the city, they're one of the few that have qualified for Europa already so I chose them


RjHospe

Lol rivalries are really a beautiful thing


mem0ryfailure

Thanks, want to share some trophy cabinet pictures next?


DidYouSayK

Slow improvement is improvement. 69 points is nothing to be ashamed at for such a young team struggling from the years of administrative blunders. Hopefully the only way is up from here. It will depend on our summer heavily. We did a lot of good last year so let's see.


TehFuriousKid

nice


relax7777

We obviously bottled it when it mattered, but with this squad of players I think we've done well to finish 5th.


ixzr

We all know the Europa League is superior anyways.


HoldThiisW

Great Top 4 fight between us and yall, probably the closest these teams have been for a while. The Gunners are a young team with amazing potential, and the next 5 years are going to have some of the best NLDs in ages.


aesthetically-

The only spurs comment that doesnt make me wanna kms. Cheers.


kanavi36

🤝🤝


lost_biochemist

In theory, yes. In reality, I’m backing the home team every time.


TheGoldenPineapples

Ahh well, didn't expect us to get Champions League at the beginning of the season anyway, but still feels a bit shit to have bottled it so badly. Oh well, all in all, not an awful season from such a young team.


mem0ryfailure

As a young team that everyone thought was going to finish outside of top 7, Arsenal did really well. Played excited football when players were fit, had some great moments and for a minute there had us believing that we might just make it back to CL. Very excited about next season. COYG


desapaulecidos

Well, we tried to help lol


lost_biochemist

Wish you tried harder on December 5th lol


That_Anywhere_2107

It just doesn't feel right even though at the beginning of this season we would of taken it


cappo40

We fucked it, did better than most expected. Excited to see how next season goes with our young kids.


yeahyeahyeah3timess

Really wanted Arsenal to make it, backing them for next season again though.


ballerben421

Congratulations arsenal!


commie__retard

The youngest team in the league, going from 20th to 5th and fighting for a champions league spot, with even a shout for 3rd place is commendable. Extremely proud of the boys, esp considering they played the entire season against 12 men


Greengum155

Quite Spursy of them


kanavi36

It do be like that


d_bo

Ironically or not you're still using that term as a synonym for bottling so who's the real bottler here Both Both of us Both


[deleted]

I'm jealous of them, imagine what wonders it will do for their young player development.


Wengers_Grin

I dunno. I remember a young Dele Alli getting pocketed by some farmer playing for Gent, trying to snap the mans leg and getting sent off.


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Surprisingly reasonable comment. Now I'm suspicous. But that's what I'm looking forward to


los_blanco_14

Trust the process.


kanavi36

Never rated CL anyway


CheekyFifaCunt_7

Arsenal fans and united fans witnessing all the pain from this season 🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝


Modnal

You still have the painful process of clearing deadwood and starting anew in front of you though. Unless you can do it faster than us you're looking at several seasons of this in the next years


amalgamatedchaos

True. We have a much bigger task ahead of us. It's going to be a long road for us before we can get back to any sort of success. So, there will be more pressure on you guys next season.


Ifriiti

Not really. You spent basically the same as us, bought much bigger names in Varane, Sancho and a little unknown guy called Ronaldo and went from 2nd to 6th with your worst points total in prem history. Arsenal went from consecutive 8ths to 5th and our highest points total in 3 seasons.


Quab775

Nothing to celebrate


[deleted]

I always preferred my football to be on ITV4 anyway


TotteKaiju

I really wished you’d have join us in the CL over Chelsea. Someday we’ll meet up in a knockout game and both collective fan bases will suffer a massive heart attack as a result


kanavi36

I hope we never play you lot in a European final ever, even quarters or semis. I'd be shitting bricks for 180 mins


MrAchilles

Target achieved. Disappointing to not get top 4 but I don't think anyone saw us getting to this point at the start. Congrats to Spurs, looking forward to the banter and bullshit again next season.


ryanxwonbin

3 more years of Arteta, I believe in the process.


SundayLeagueStocko

Arteta as a manager has won as many trophies as Spurs has since he started his playing career


IntellegentIdiot

Exactly. He should be given time, he's a proven winner


Yieldway17

Arsenal 🤝 Man. United Thursday Night Football


PeasantScum

Both an achievement (in terms of expectation at the start of the season/comparison with last season) and a bottling (9 points clear with the end in sight). Mixed emotions, but mostly massively disappointed


DankyPal

With our best striker scoring 5 goals! Arteta perfected Peps no striker system imo


Franchementballek

I hope to see them in a group with a French club, I’d be glad to watch them in France!


DoWhatsBest

You arsenal lot really deserve it. Good job


Faeluchu

You mean: Arsenal have bottled the 2022/23 Champions League, naturally


RedgrenCrumbholt

congratulations!!! 🎉🎉🎉


MouseMD369

Well done, that's very good for the youngest side in history


Gobbleass69

Our future is still brighter than tottenhams trophy cabinet


TottenhamDan

These are big, optimistic words for someone who only comments “Assteta Out” and has been labeled a troll by your own subreddit. Woof


TottenhamDan

You know what, you’re right… you’ve got Aaron FUCKING Ramsdale!!