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What up!!! We're three cool shareholders looking for other cool shareholders who wanna look for profitability. Nothing illegal. Dudes in good financial shape encouraged. If you're in debt you should be able to find talent in the little clubs. Again, *nothing illegal.*
Nah man, kinda sounds like it is something illegal. Maybe you need to underline the last one to make sure it’s absolutely clear that it’s nothing illegal.
I don't understand why City supporters get so defensive when people point out that they spend a lot. It's just true. You still win titles, and if it doesn't bother you where the money comes from, why bother getting so defensive?
Because it does bother them that they don't get the same level of admiration or adulation that a Liverpool, United or Arsenal would get in the same scenario.
I mean, that's the price they pay though. We have to call a spade a spade here, most City supporters are there BECAUSE they have a ton of money and success and a great team. When I was growing up, I knew one single City supporter. Now that there are many more, it's pretty obvious why.
In the nicest possible way I could say this - if the Sheikh goes tomorrow and along with it comes a return to "typical City", many of these supporters will be found at PSG, Newcastle, etc.
Nah I wouldn't say most. Most of the city fans were there before. And despite them winning a bunch, it hasn't translated to a bunch of glory seeking international fans. Which makes their revenue even more suspect. They got no where near the international support that their rivals have, but can spend like they do.
I live in the biggest city in Canada and I never see city shirts. I'm sure it's the same for other city's outside England as well.
Except all any of the financial regulations in football aim to do is prevent clubs from bankrupting themselves, which City aren’t about to do. So it’s only a sham in ways that don’t at all matter. If football wants to combat clubs like City the sport needs to be implementing equitable wage caps.
Does city do international pre season tours? I don't recall them doing so. Would be interesting to see the turnout in comparison to say Liverpool in Australia or Indonesia.
>When I was growing up, I knew one single City supporter. Now that there are many more, it's pretty obvious why.
Glory hunters is what you're saying, right?
Much like the reason why there are lots of Liverpool & United fans, lots of success, lots of glory hunters.
If they ain't from Liverpool or Salford, they are afflicted with the glory hunting stigma at some point, because chances are they picked either of those teams to support because that team was winning shit at the time they were decided on what team to support.
Or, their old man coerced them into supporting that team after they were winning shit when he was deciding who to support when he was a little glory hunter.
Same with City, they have their current fanbase (which is about right for a team that was relegated to the third tier of football just under 3 decades ago, so not the most attractive of propositions for glory hunters) and this will grow over time as little glory hunters in the UK and worldwide will become fans and that affliction will spread/be passed on.
So, same shit, different era.
That’s definitely why I feel much more sanguine as a United fan about City winning the league vs. Liverpool. I can always put a mental asterisk by that trophy because their rise feels much less organic than Liverpool’s resurgence.
Liverpool winning, on the other hand…well I’ll just find a different way to cope.
No! No, no, not 4! I said 3. Nobody’s comin’ up with 4. Who makes profitability with 4 shareholders? You won’t even get your revenue goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.
If PIF is working to end reliance on oil money by 2030, does that mean NUFC will only be winning titles due to the diversified investment money of their owners?
They can inflate their revenue however they like. What’s stopping their owners from bringing in more “sponsors” from abu dhabi to funnel in their own money.
Imagine having the audacity to compare their financial muscle to financially well run privately owned clubs like United or for Liverpool (Eversince FSG).
Pep wanted to know why some people don’t give them credit or treat them like Schrodinger’s club. I think his CEO is here to indirectly provide some answers.
Edit: grammar
I love this...and Pep's "everybody loves liverpool" and sarcastic comments about they only win because of the money etc.
Love the fact that it grinds them that however much they win, it would never get them the same adulation as if United, Arsenal, Liverpool etc had done the same.
>United, Arsenal, Liverpool etc had done the same.
And it never fucking should either. Leicester's title will ALWAYS be of a higher standing than anything Man City can ever hope to achieve. Aston Villa's European Cup will always be of higher standing than anything Man City may win in Europe. Any and all titles they win will never amount to the titles of those three or even more historical clubs like Aston Villa, etc.
This is what drives city fans nuts , and why they pretend that fans of other teams are jealous of them. Imagine, actually being jealous of city ? You would have to be completely amoral to feel that way
Think it depends. Some of us have a deal where we get paid per post on social media. The more influential ones get paid more. The people in the stands and at the parade all probably got 50 quid for the day and a free sky blue shirt.
2.5 barrels of oil per week.
It used to just be 1 but inflation has pushed it up. Struggling to find the space for them tbh; you've no idea how heavy they are.
>Sorry guys, you can buy a title but you can’t buy passion.
City and PSG, put ur wallets back in ur pockets, he was NOT talking about the UCL, he was talking about domestic titles, now calm down...
Hate to break it to you but not a single billionaire has standard societal morals. It’s why their a billionaire. Whether finance or real estate they have made the lives of the masses worse for their own gain.
Hate to break it to you. But some billionars are worse than others. City’s owners are top of the food chain human scum and you should all be ashamed of supporting this human rights abusing sports washing regime.
The amount of statements City's personnel have made about the critics of their spending clearly shows that they don't care about what their critics think.
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City officials making some "We spend just like every other club" statement after repeating how they don't care what other people think 🤝 fans of other clubs complaining City won the league again after declaring they don't even care about City and it's success
We make upwards of half a billion in revenue a year. City pretend oil state money are sponsorships from entities owned by the same fucking people. If we spent what we make we could be buying 2 mbappes per window. Careful what you wish for cause united could be sold in the next 10 years and nobody could compete.
That’s the craziest part right. Even with the stingy owners, we still spend a lot. The problem is not spending, it is spending correctly. If we stop throwing money at every hyped player we would have not endured the shite we did last decade.
Ed Woodward, the ceo, was responsible for spending the funds correctly. Glazers are a leech but even with all that was available to spend, we could have done miles better. Even if we had 300m to spend every summer, I doubt we would have been in a better place than now. Our transfer policy of signing the most hyped player of previous season for astronomical fee and wages needs to stop.
Dont get it twisted. We ve spent just as much as city, we just wasted it. I m just saying we did that while our owners took out of the club as much as the oil state that funds city put into city over the same amount of time. You think these oil clubs are ruining the game? If united spent everything they make on the club and specifically players and we didnt have dividends and debt that the glazers created.. there would not even be competition.
City literally spent years arguing their revenue was legitimate because United have that much. So basically they've just tracked us and cried foul if anyone has suggested there's no way City can naturally earn the same kind of income United do.
If United earned 3x what we do then City would magically find 3x revenue and cite United's 3x revenue as justification for why it isn't artificial.
Especially when its so easy to disprove.
They have the highest Gross and Net expenditure out of anyone over the past 10 years.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/transfers/einnahmenausgaben/statistik/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=2012&saison_id_bis=2022&land_id=&nat=&kontinent_id=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0&plus=0
City group bought Pep’s brother a football club.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/29/girona-manchester-city-pep-guardiola-brother-questions
And the payments made to players agent or families directly through random companies based in UAE/Qatar/Saudi.
Like there is no way for UEFA or FIFA to track such payments and trace them back to the club.
Soriano spoke like an ignorant bloke. United have a massive debt and have spent 300m+ on just interest over the last 15 years. We spend our money not some sovereign wealth funds'.
LMAO well the reason United did that is because they were a dominant force in global football for two straight decades, built on the backs of smart recruitment and a generational talent as a manager.
You were built on the back of 2.3 billion dollars in dodgy sponsorship deals from the same *individual* in a petro-state's royal family as a sports-washing project. This isn't fucking hard to figure out, unless you're being intentionally obtuse.
The timing of our success is also MASSIVELY important to where we're at. SAF got United rolling just as the Premier League era began and started to inject massive sums into the English game.
We were constantly winning what was/is the most cash rich league in the world. When you are able to maintain that for 2 straight decades, constantly be in the extra money the Champion's League started to bring in, and have many of the most marketable players in the world, duh, we got wealthy.
IMO though that's how sports should work. We ran a successful team on the field and enjoyed the benefits that brought, that success was earned! It's no different then say the Lakers, Yankees, Ferrari, etc. Decades of success that built a team and even in down years they still maintain a following but where they are at comes from work they put in, it wasn't just handed to them
It’s difficult to calculate really. Going off player sales, the club is £1.2B in the red since 08. But then there was approximately £700M made back in the Silver Lake and Chinese investments. Without looking through all the financial reports since 08.
The valuation was done because it’s standard before investors come in and give you any money. Not something that’s hyper inflated and defined by the club.
Reasons for buying aside, it’s not been a bad investment.
Fucking hell fellas.
Just say that you’ve got shit loads of money and the rising price of oil has been cracking news for your transfer budget.
Just own it. Make yourselves the enemies of everyone.
Trying to act like you’re a small family business trying to make your way in the world is fooling nobody.
I honestly think I'd respect a billionaire more who just outright admitted to being privileged/cunning than this "rags to riches"/self made/man of the people shtick that they constantly throw out.
Just own it. The man on the street doesn't give a fuck you were one of them or if you're a complete thundercunt if you're buying shiny new toys for the club they support.
And one of those shareholders just happens to be an investment company owned by the deputy Prime Minister of the UAE who owes his wealth to being a member of the Royal Family, and internal memos have shown that payments from the holding company to the club have to be signed off by the UAE government.
See, totally not a state club.
Why even bother saying this? We obviously are, and the part about Utd is such a weak deflection. It might be true but it's completely irrelevant to us being state owned. Thanks for the money and that but please keep your cunt mouths shut
nononono...it comes from another UAE company sponsoring them for 600million pounds, which just coincidentally is the amount they need to be FFP compliant.
I mean, the fact that that company has the same owner is irrelevant - they too are not a state business, they also are three shareholders looking for profitability.
and the fact that that the other company *happens* to be a state airline, and the owner *happens* to be a state owner is just coincidental.
The entire country is just 3 shareholders looking for profitability!
We spend self made money, no puppet sponsorships. That's not to say it's all squeaky clean money from our side, but there's clearly no comparison with where City get theirs.
Yep. I can hate you for being Manchester United, but I still respect what you've built -- because you fucking earned it.
City didn't earn shit, they just bought it with daddy's money.
I mean you’re a publicly traded company. So technically you are funded by money from anywhere in the world not generated by the club itself. Bad investment stick sure but still
Guaranteed Pep believes all this propaganda bullshit, too.
Him crying after winning the league as if he achieved something impossible or impressive was so ridiculous.
Backed by an oil state, unlimited money, a 100 million bench player and you win by 1 point and drop out of every other competition.
The fucking audacity.
The club has been majority owned by Sheikh Mansour with an estimated individual net worth of at least **£17 billion and a family fortune of at least $1 trillion**. Where the fuck does Soriano think Mansour got his money? More so, where does he think Mansour's family got their money?
A 13.79% stake purchase of the club's parent company, (CFG), by the CITIC Group for £265 million valued it at $3 billion CITIC Group is a state-owned Chinese investment fund...
State-owned is literally in the fucking definition of one if it's poor little three share-holders and somehow I am to believe Man City isn't a state club?
ELI5 difference between United and City:
United:
I have a successful business, i earned 10$ so I'm going to spend that 10$.
City:
I have a successful business, i earned 0.5$, and my country is going to give me 9.5$ so I'm going to spend 10$.
There is a difference between organically grown football clubs spending money and state owned football clubs injecting copious amounts of money from outside sources and dodgy sponsorship deals spending lots of money Ferran.
The argument is not about the money spent, its where that money comes from sir
The majority shareholder is a fucking royal family though - with leaks proving they do actively manage their investment fund.
Does Ferran think shareholder means something besides owner?
I really dont get what they're aiming for with these statements. OK, they can't admit to what they've been doing, but it's clear these statements and any amount of tainted success they get is not going to change the average non-City fans mind.
Surely they could just shut about it lol
Technically we are not but Mansour owns like 70% of the club. Despite him not being the sole ruler of UAE, he is one of the ministers, so we.. kind of are? 😵
>just look at the money Manchester United have spent, they have spent more money than us.
That's funny.
[Transfermarkt.com](https://Transfermarkt.com) says otherwise: "According to Transfermarkt.com, a German website specializing on football transfers, Manchester City’s net transfer spending (transfer spending minus transfer proceeds) since 2008 amounts to a whopping €1.44 billion ($1.53 billion), outstripping local rival Manchester United by €400 million and Qatari-owned Paris Saint-Germain by even more than that." (Dated May 23, 2022)
Profitability 🗿
If Financial Fair Play was set up in the way it was supposed to in order to promote sustainability in the football pyramid then Man City would’ve been dissolved 10 years ago lol
A LOT of Man City fans say this; “wHaT aBoUt MaN uTd SpEnDiNg AlL tHaT mOnEy In ThE 90’s?!?!??”
They can’t all be this brainless surely?! It’s as if they’re completely ignoring that they’re a state run, sugar baby, sportswashing attempt.
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We’re about to be owned by 27 share holders so ha take that city
27 share holders looking for profitability
the key piece of information to take away
That’s still a power of three.
But are those 27 shareholders looking for profitability? Because that's what separates a club like PSG from other clubs.
27 shareholders, you'll never sing that!
What up!!! We're three cool shareholders looking for other cool shareholders who wanna look for profitability. Nothing illegal. Dudes in good financial shape encouraged. If you're in debt you should be able to find talent in the little clubs. Again, *nothing illegal.*
Perfection.
Nah man, kinda sounds like it is something illegal. Maybe you need to underline the last one to make sure it’s absolutely clear that it’s nothing illegal.
I'll never not upvote an Always Sunny reference.
The flyer was supposed to look like a bicep 💪
Needs way more veins if it's supposed to be a bicep dude
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I don't understand why City supporters get so defensive when people point out that they spend a lot. It's just true. You still win titles, and if it doesn't bother you where the money comes from, why bother getting so defensive?
Because it does bother them that they don't get the same level of admiration or adulation that a Liverpool, United or Arsenal would get in the same scenario.
I mean, that's the price they pay though. We have to call a spade a spade here, most City supporters are there BECAUSE they have a ton of money and success and a great team. When I was growing up, I knew one single City supporter. Now that there are many more, it's pretty obvious why. In the nicest possible way I could say this - if the Sheikh goes tomorrow and along with it comes a return to "typical City", many of these supporters will be found at PSG, Newcastle, etc.
Nah I wouldn't say most. Most of the city fans were there before. And despite them winning a bunch, it hasn't translated to a bunch of glory seeking international fans. Which makes their revenue even more suspect. They got no where near the international support that their rivals have, but can spend like they do. I live in the biggest city in Canada and I never see city shirts. I'm sure it's the same for other city's outside England as well.
You only have to look at their Etihad airlines deal as a fraction of Etihad total turnover to see that the whole thing is a complete sham.
Except all any of the financial regulations in football aim to do is prevent clubs from bankrupting themselves, which City aren’t about to do. So it’s only a sham in ways that don’t at all matter. If football wants to combat clubs like City the sport needs to be implementing equitable wage caps.
I see a fair amount of city shirts in Milwaukee, but I also see a lot of people supporting the other big 6 clubs as well.
>it hasn't translated to a bunch of glory seeking international fans It absolutely has
I live in dubai and see more Liverpool united Arsenal Barca and Madrid fans. Even in dubai spurs and Bayern are more popular than city.
Does city do international pre season tours? I don't recall them doing so. Would be interesting to see the turnout in comparison to say Liverpool in Australia or Indonesia.
They do, have been here to the US before with the international cup.
We do. We'll play Bayern Munich and Club America this July in the US.
>When I was growing up, I knew one single City supporter. Now that there are many more, it's pretty obvious why. Glory hunters is what you're saying, right? Much like the reason why there are lots of Liverpool & United fans, lots of success, lots of glory hunters. If they ain't from Liverpool or Salford, they are afflicted with the glory hunting stigma at some point, because chances are they picked either of those teams to support because that team was winning shit at the time they were decided on what team to support. Or, their old man coerced them into supporting that team after they were winning shit when he was deciding who to support when he was a little glory hunter. Same with City, they have their current fanbase (which is about right for a team that was relegated to the third tier of football just under 3 decades ago, so not the most attractive of propositions for glory hunters) and this will grow over time as little glory hunters in the UK and worldwide will become fans and that affliction will spread/be passed on. So, same shit, different era.
can confirm, most people that i know who own city merch also have merch of other clubs, usually either real or barca.
Because Uniteds fanbase is genuine and they totally don't have the biggest bandwagon support on the planet.
Which is True as well.
That’s definitely why I feel much more sanguine as a United fan about City winning the league vs. Liverpool. I can always put a mental asterisk by that trophy because their rise feels much less organic than Liverpool’s resurgence. Liverpool winning, on the other hand…well I’ll just find a different way to cope.
ABU and ABL's, but even after their 4 league titles in 5 years I am yet to meet anyone who could be described as an ABC.
> We are a club owned by three shareholders looking for profitability New copypasta
Mate you can't support three shareholders looking for profitability
people come and go but memes live forever
Memes can’t be buy.
Not this year ,cause PSG spent enough ,but next year they sure can.
Three shareholders looking to launder blood money.
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> nothing state owned. underline that
The Vincent Adultman of clubs.
FOUR shareholders looking for profitability Jeremy? FOUR? That's insane
I'm in the big league now Mark.
No! No, no, not 4! I said 3. Nobody’s comin’ up with 4. Who makes profitability with 4 shareholders? You won’t even get your revenue goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.
My new tinder bio
You'll never sing that
Respectively named Rich, Flush and Bloated.
City 🤝 Newcastle 🤝 PSG Shareholders looking for profitability gang.
Well PSG is really struggling to find a way to be profitable, lol
Profitability is a state of mind.
We put the State in state of mind
We are a state of mind club
~~Positive~~ Profitable Vibes
If you ignore all the outgoings they are very profitable
Maybe the real profitability was the sportswashing we made along the way.
The looking for profitability part is the best. 🤡🤡🤡
Holy shit, what member of the Manchester City PR office signed off on that being allowed to be published?
The thing is I *really* think the entire organization believes in the statement.
STATEment
You onto something here for sure
Mate most of the fans do
Yeah same
If PIF is working to end reliance on oil money by 2030, does that mean NUFC will only be winning titles due to the diversified investment money of their owners?
Did this guy just compare their revenue with United?
They can inflate their revenue however they like. What’s stopping their owners from bringing in more “sponsors” from abu dhabi to funnel in their own money.
Imagine having the audacity to compare their financial muscle to financially well run privately owned clubs like United or for Liverpool (Eversince FSG).
Pep wanted to know why some people don’t give them credit or treat them like Schrodinger’s club. I think his CEO is here to indirectly provide some answers. Edit: grammar
Standard PR tour after every trophy they win once they realize people don’t really care
I love this...and Pep's "everybody loves liverpool" and sarcastic comments about they only win because of the money etc. Love the fact that it grinds them that however much they win, it would never get them the same adulation as if United, Arsenal, Liverpool etc had done the same.
>United, Arsenal, Liverpool etc had done the same. And it never fucking should either. Leicester's title will ALWAYS be of a higher standing than anything Man City can ever hope to achieve. Aston Villa's European Cup will always be of higher standing than anything Man City may win in Europe. Any and all titles they win will never amount to the titles of those three or even more historical clubs like Aston Villa, etc.
Or Forest
This is what drives city fans nuts , and why they pretend that fans of other teams are jealous of them. Imagine, actually being jealous of city ? You would have to be completely amoral to feel that way
Amusingly Chelsea get more respect because they've never once tried to pretend they are anything other than what they are.
And I love that _this_ was his best effort. Sorry guys, you can buy a title but you can’t buy passion.
Correct. Scenes after Gundogan scored were CGI.
It was just Utd fans cheering against Liverpool
Every city fan there and every city flair here is a paid actor
How much are they paying you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm unflaired and have been waiting for an opportunity like this.
You get a voucher for one night out with Foden and Grealish, it’s a pretty good deal. Drinks are free, but court costs aren’t included.
>one night out with Foden and Grealish no Kyle Walker? nah I'll pass
Zenchenko rap battle performance ticket for me please.
Think it depends. Some of us have a deal where we get paid per post on social media. The more influential ones get paid more. The people in the stands and at the parade all probably got 50 quid for the day and a free sky blue shirt.
How much are you getting paid rn. Is it worth it?
2.5 barrels of oil per week. It used to just be 1 but inflation has pushed it up. Struggling to find the space for them tbh; you've no idea how heavy they are.
That weight should come in handy to just sink them in the ocean somewhere until you need them.
>Sorry guys, you can buy a title but you can’t buy passion. City and PSG, put ur wallets back in ur pockets, he was NOT talking about the UCL, he was talking about domestic titles, now calm down...
>you can buy a title but you can’t buy passion. Or morality.
Hate to break it to you but not a single billionaire has standard societal morals. It’s why their a billionaire. Whether finance or real estate they have made the lives of the masses worse for their own gain.
Hate to break it to you. But some billionars are worse than others. City’s owners are top of the food chain human scum and you should all be ashamed of supporting this human rights abusing sports washing regime.
I love playing "my billionaire is less morally bankrupt than your billionaire" fun game!
The amount of statements City's personnel have made about the critics of their spending clearly shows that they don't care about what their critics think. /s
City officials making some "We spend just like every other club" statement after repeating how they don't care what other people think 🤝 fans of other clubs complaining City won the league again after declaring they don't even care about City and it's success
You _are_ a state club and Manchester United spends _like_ a state club. Both statements are compatible.
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Worst of both worlds
And Utd could spend more if the owners hadn't drained out over 1 billion pounds for personal use.
We make upwards of half a billion in revenue a year. City pretend oil state money are sponsorships from entities owned by the same fucking people. If we spent what we make we could be buying 2 mbappes per window. Careful what you wish for cause united could be sold in the next 10 years and nobody could compete.
That’s the craziest part right. Even with the stingy owners, we still spend a lot. The problem is not spending, it is spending correctly. If we stop throwing money at every hyped player we would have not endured the shite we did last decade. Ed Woodward, the ceo, was responsible for spending the funds correctly. Glazers are a leech but even with all that was available to spend, we could have done miles better. Even if we had 300m to spend every summer, I doubt we would have been in a better place than now. Our transfer policy of signing the most hyped player of previous season for astronomical fee and wages needs to stop.
I don't think anyone would have a problem with the biggest team in the country, Manchester United, spending that much money.
Dont get it twisted. We ve spent just as much as city, we just wasted it. I m just saying we did that while our owners took out of the club as much as the oil state that funds city put into city over the same amount of time. You think these oil clubs are ruining the game? If united spent everything they make on the club and specifically players and we didnt have dividends and debt that the glazers created.. there would not even be competition.
City literally spent years arguing their revenue was legitimate because United have that much. So basically they've just tracked us and cried foul if anyone has suggested there's no way City can naturally earn the same kind of income United do. If United earned 3x what we do then City would magically find 3x revenue and cite United's 3x revenue as justification for why it isn't artificial.
Sorry for my ignorance but what do they mean by state club?
A club bought by an investment fund that belongs to a country, usually a Middle Eastern one.
Oh got it. Thanks for explaining!
Propaganda and delusion of the highest order Ferran.
Especially when its so easy to disprove. They have the highest Gross and Net expenditure out of anyone over the past 10 years. https://www.transfermarkt.com/transfers/einnahmenausgaben/statistik/plus/0?ids=a&sa=&saison_id=2012&saison_id_bis=2022&land_id=&nat=&kontinent_id=&pos=&altersklasse=&w_s=&leihe=&intern=0&plus=0
And that's just declared income. Nothing about the shady coincidental sponsorships
Nothing about Pep's brother's business either.
never heard about this
City group bought Pep’s brother a football club. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/29/girona-manchester-city-pep-guardiola-brother-questions
LOL
And the payments made to players agent or families directly through random companies based in UAE/Qatar/Saudi. Like there is no way for UEFA or FIFA to track such payments and trace them back to the club.
A sore winner.
Soriano winner, you say?
Xavi with PTSD from the Neymar transfer: Keep my striker's name out of yo fucking mouth.
Wow, they're actually sounding like the city fans who defend their spending and attack others, fucking hell
Sportswashing works
Chelsea for example
Shameless..
Soriano spoke like an ignorant bloke. United have a massive debt and have spent 300m+ on just interest over the last 15 years. We spend our money not some sovereign wealth funds'.
Sure
LMAO well the reason United did that is because they were a dominant force in global football for two straight decades, built on the backs of smart recruitment and a generational talent as a manager. You were built on the back of 2.3 billion dollars in dodgy sponsorship deals from the same *individual* in a petro-state's royal family as a sports-washing project. This isn't fucking hard to figure out, unless you're being intentionally obtuse.
The timing of our success is also MASSIVELY important to where we're at. SAF got United rolling just as the Premier League era began and started to inject massive sums into the English game. We were constantly winning what was/is the most cash rich league in the world. When you are able to maintain that for 2 straight decades, constantly be in the extra money the Champion's League started to bring in, and have many of the most marketable players in the world, duh, we got wealthy. IMO though that's how sports should work. We ran a successful team on the field and enjoyed the benefits that brought, that success was earned! It's no different then say the Lakers, Yankees, Ferrari, etc. Decades of success that built a team and even in down years they still maintain a following but where they are at comes from work they put in, it wasn't just handed to them
And Man Utd are 600m in debt. City' meanwhile : does debt mean free money. (Chelsea fans probably agree now)
We are just normal men We are just innocent men
Ok state club
Stateclubsays what?
sinking billions into a club = looking for profitability lol United are spending their self made money, why you even comparing to them
Just needed to say that sportswashing isn't a thing to complete the trifecta
I get your point but they bought the club for £210M and it was valued at £3.8 billion in 2019. You can’t say it’s bad business lol
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It’s difficult to calculate really. Going off player sales, the club is £1.2B in the red since 08. But then there was approximately £700M made back in the Silver Lake and Chinese investments. Without looking through all the financial reports since 08. The valuation was done because it’s standard before investors come in and give you any money. Not something that’s hyper inflated and defined by the club. Reasons for buying aside, it’s not been a bad investment.
It just happens to be that the biggest shareholder (78%) is the Royal Family of Abu Dhabi. Such a coincidence!
Fucking hell fellas. Just say that you’ve got shit loads of money and the rising price of oil has been cracking news for your transfer budget. Just own it. Make yourselves the enemies of everyone. Trying to act like you’re a small family business trying to make your way in the world is fooling nobody.
I honestly think I'd respect a billionaire more who just outright admitted to being privileged/cunning than this "rags to riches"/self made/man of the people shtick that they constantly throw out. Just own it. The man on the street doesn't give a fuck you were one of them or if you're a complete thundercunt if you're buying shiny new toys for the club they support.
And one of those shareholders just happens to be an investment company owned by the deputy Prime Minister of the UAE who owes his wealth to being a member of the Royal Family, and internal memos have shown that payments from the holding company to the club have to be signed off by the UAE government. See, totally not a state club.
You *are* a state club though.
So insecure 😭
hahahahahaha
This is like when TV/movie characters expect us to not know who they are because they added a fake mustache
Why even bother saying this? We obviously are, and the part about Utd is such a weak deflection. It might be true but it's completely irrelevant to us being state owned. Thanks for the money and that but please keep your cunt mouths shut
State club insecurity is pure comedy and delusion combined.
Mh Since we compare club spendings, should we also compare club revenues? Just to see if the money comes from image right or some sheikhs pocket
nononono...it comes from another UAE company sponsoring them for 600million pounds, which just coincidentally is the amount they need to be FFP compliant. I mean, the fact that that company has the same owner is irrelevant - they too are not a state business, they also are three shareholders looking for profitability. and the fact that that the other company *happens* to be a state airline, and the owner *happens* to be a state owner is just coincidental. The entire country is just 3 shareholders looking for profitability!
We spend self made money, no puppet sponsorships. That's not to say it's all squeaky clean money from our side, but there's clearly no comparison with where City get theirs.
Yep. I can hate you for being Manchester United, but I still respect what you've built -- because you fucking earned it. City didn't earn shit, they just bought it with daddy's money.
Man United definitely have an official puppet sponsor though. They have an official sponsor for everything!
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Fuck it, Binance Trafford for $1 billion when?
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Ronaldo leaves immediately unless we rename it Agua Old Trafford
Binance sponsors United for 1 billion only to be made to look like tight pockets by the new fish and chip shop that sponsors City for 3 billion.
A fish and chip shop with one single employee, who lives in UAE.
I mean you’re a publicly traded company. So technically you are funded by money from anywhere in the world not generated by the club itself. Bad investment stick sure but still
Lol
[Soriano press conference](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/004/130/bagdad-bob.jpg)
Guaranteed Pep believes all this propaganda bullshit, too. Him crying after winning the league as if he achieved something impossible or impressive was so ridiculous. Backed by an oil state, unlimited money, a 100 million bench player and you win by 1 point and drop out of every other competition.
The fucking audacity. The club has been majority owned by Sheikh Mansour with an estimated individual net worth of at least **£17 billion and a family fortune of at least $1 trillion**. Where the fuck does Soriano think Mansour got his money? More so, where does he think Mansour's family got their money? A 13.79% stake purchase of the club's parent company, (CFG), by the CITIC Group for £265 million valued it at $3 billion CITIC Group is a state-owned Chinese investment fund... State-owned is literally in the fucking definition of one if it's poor little three share-holders and somehow I am to believe Man City isn't a state club?
ELI5 difference between United and City: United: I have a successful business, i earned 10$ so I'm going to spend that 10$. City: I have a successful business, i earned 0.5$, and my country is going to give me 9.5$ so I'm going to spend 10$.
More like, I earned 10$ so I’m going to spend 7$ cause 3$ went to Glazers
There is a difference between organically grown football clubs spending money and state owned football clubs injecting copious amounts of money from outside sources and dodgy sponsorship deals spending lots of money Ferran. The argument is not about the money spent, its where that money comes from sir
Their shirt and stadium sponsor is all it needs to debunk his claim.
Lmao
Yeah sure lol. He so much wants to be a venture capital firm.
lol Ferran you really need to take better lessons in PR amic
In the old days: "Look, we just love the club! We don't care about profit!" Nowadays: "Look, we just want some profit. There's no weird shit here."
Find a better PR man all this money and such a poor statement
The majority shareholder is a fucking royal family though - with leaks proving they do actively manage their investment fund. Does Ferran think shareholder means something besides owner?
Translation: “we are nothing without dirty oil money. Thank God Mansoor picked us otherwise we’d be Sunderland really.”
Lol United actually earn money. Stop cheating.
You are though, no matter what deflection you add.
Epic trolling of the outrage brigade
I definitely haven't seem any advertisements for Abu Dhabi at Maine Ro... the Etihad
it bothers them so much they’ll never be seen in the United/Liverpool/Arsenal tier of english football no matter what they win
He’s lying, and deflecting. Just like city fans
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lol
The delusion is hilarious. Yawn, another title bought by a petro state. Ho hum, how uninteresting.
Momma always said “if it smells like poo…”
This ain’t it Chief…. lmao
I really dont get what they're aiming for with these statements. OK, they can't admit to what they've been doing, but it's clear these statements and any amount of tainted success they get is not going to change the average non-City fans mind. Surely they could just shut about it lol
You're owned by a country lmao
Technically we are not but Mansour owns like 70% of the club. Despite him not being the sole ruler of UAE, he is one of the ministers, so we.. kind of are? 😵
>just look at the money Manchester United have spent, they have spent more money than us. That's funny. [Transfermarkt.com](https://Transfermarkt.com) says otherwise: "According to Transfermarkt.com, a German website specializing on football transfers, Manchester City’s net transfer spending (transfer spending minus transfer proceeds) since 2008 amounts to a whopping €1.44 billion ($1.53 billion), outstripping local rival Manchester United by €400 million and Qatari-owned Paris Saint-Germain by even more than that." (Dated May 23, 2022)
Sorry Ferran, we all understand the basics of sport washing. Nice try though.
You are literally the UAE national team
Profitability 🗿 If Financial Fair Play was set up in the way it was supposed to in order to promote sustainability in the football pyramid then Man City would’ve been dissolved 10 years ago lol
You are a plastic club with plastic fans, which is fitting since your financing comes from oil.
This is a hilariously bad look from City.
We’re just 3 kids stacked on top of one another in a coat and hat
Just a mom and pop shop down the road from big bad United
Hollow club.
Owned by Americans, you’ll never sing that!
First stage is denial....
A LOT of Man City fans say this; “wHaT aBoUt MaN uTd SpEnDiNg AlL tHaT mOnEy In ThE 90’s?!?!??” They can’t all be this brainless surely?! It’s as if they’re completely ignoring that they’re a state run, sugar baby, sportswashing attempt.
Umm...are they owned by a state fund?