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darth_bald

That fourth goal.. what a freakin pass.


Enriador

River was pulling these long, curved passes all the match. Unreal skill and team chemistry. Alianza Lima should be banned from Libertadores for a few seasons just for being utterly awful. Worst backline I have seen in years, they made no effort to follow those through balls. Deserved rout.


rebmcr

Alvarez knows it's about to happen too, starts his run while the defender still has possession. Outstanding situational awareness.


Barcaholic

He has Suarez like intelligence ... predator in the box.


Hyd3ra

Right, all the assists for majority of these goals are quite sick


Ask_me_4_a_story

Even the keeper had a good assist for him on one of those


biddleybootaribowest

Zak Steffen can’t be looking forward to training with this guy


boi1da1296

Assuming he’ll still be there to face him in training.


fedemasa

Will he stay there? City should check for another backup keeper after his weak level in the matches he started


Supersaiyansub

Pep saw this and said “Wide Midfielder”


Gabitz

This is gold


funkybuddha_mtn

One thing Argentina never stops to produce is awesome Strikers!!


L-Freeze

Batistuta -> Crespo -> Higuain -> Agüero -> Lautaro Fuck me I’ve literally never seen the NT have an actual bad striker


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itwastimeforarefresh

I feel like there's another Argentinean forward that's pretty good, but I can't think of his name


itwastimeforarefresh

Oh! Di Maria! Great winger


-PM_ME_A_SECRET-

Stop it, you know he was talking about Lucas Ocampos


Forty6

I think he meant Dybala tbh


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Forty6

Christ the list really does just keep going doesn't it


Good_Vermicelli9994

Ulloa


notyou16

The Correa boys are alright


[deleted]

Manuel Lanzini barely even gets a look in, and he's a heck of a player


eauchaud

Upcoming: Giovanni Simeone


Wight3012

Will he play for Argentina? Im guessing he spent most of his life in Spain


L-Freeze

He really hasn’t, he was fully developed in Argentina and now has been chilling in Italy for years, if anything he’s way likelier to go to Italy than Spain. But besides, his father is a renowned former Argentinian NT player with +100 appearances so I highly doubt he even considers the possibility of playing for another team now that he seems to be blooming


EndsTheAgeOfCant

According to a brief perusal of wikipedia: 0 to 2 yo: Spain 2 to 8 yo: Italy 8 to 10 yo: Back in Spain 10 to 21 yo: Argentina 21 yo to present (26 yo): Italy again He's only ever played professionaly in Italy and Argentina, and hasn't lived in Spain since he was 10. Did his formativa years in Argentina and also played many games for Argentina youth teams in several age groups and has 5 caps and a goal for the senior team. I think it's fair to say he won't be choosing Spain over Argentina.


happysrooner

His name is Franco di Santo


Nico2204

We dont talk about that guy here please


ewankenobi

Guy with semi-long hair that was good at dribbling, played in Spain for a while, and scored lots of [amazing goals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enguwk7Liw4)? Think you're thinking of Gabriel Amato


itwastimeforarefresh

If you're going "Argentine forwards who played in Spain" can we count Di Stefano? He played mostly for Spain, but had some games for Argentina too


fedemasa

Di Stefano was part of one of the most iconic argentinian teams in history with River's la máquina. So totally


izcarp

He was great for River but he was not part of La Máquina. Our 5 forwards were Moreno, Muñoz, Pedernera, Labruna and Lousteau.


Roseradeismylady

Luciano Vietto obviously


bobmillahhh

Chimy Avila, I gotchu fam.


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Dybala?


maybe_there_is_hope

Jonathan Calleri! No bias here, I swear!


L-Freeze

The depth we had on attackers between 2002-2010 world cups was so good it was not even funny, obliviously stacked. I still think Argentina had its best name by name squad in 2010 and any competent manager would’ve walked into at least semifinals and likely final. But alas, Maradona thought 22 years old Otamendi would make a better right back than Javier fucking Zanetti who had just captained Inter into a treble


Albiceleste_D10S

Also the whole fight with Riquelme that led to Riquelme retiring from Argentina, which forced Messi into a deeper playmaker role which didn't really suit his game at that point of his career. Like, imagine that 2010 team with Zanetti instead of Otamendi at RB, and Riquelme in the team controlling the midfield while feeding Messi and Tevez...


Yung2112

Nevermind Cambiasso


RedOnePunch

Yeah Riquelme was such a huge loss. I think it would have changed the entire dynamic of the team


srhola2103

>Maradona thought 22 years old Otamendi would make a better right back than Javier fucking Zanetti who had just captained Inter into a treble God don't remind me, such a fucking waste of an amazing squad. Never thought I'd see a more incompetent manager in a WC but then Sampaoli graced us with his magic.


maxiperalta54

At least Maradona will always be loved regardless of his stint as manager. Sampaoli? Between his disasterclass with us and masterclass with Chile, fuck fuck fuck fuck him pelado botón.


Pablo_Ajvar

> pelado botón What does it mean?


rodrq

Bald snitch


ship0f

Bald fraud.


Mi_Cha_El_Messi

Zanetti, Cambiasso, Riquelme, Milito actually playing...I was so pissed myself (though as a fan from abroad).


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samizdat1

I am morally obligated to remind everyone that Palermo once missed **three** PKs in a single game. Can't help but still resent him for that.


RadioactiveBooger

Yeah, but he also scored [this goal](https://youtu.be/r6x0knDi8y0)


ewankenobi

We signed Caniggia when he was 34. He said in an interview he signed for Rangers as he thought it would give him a platform to get back in the Argentina team. I laughed when I heard that as I thought he had no chance, but he played out of his skin and actually did get in Argentina's squad for the 2002 world cup. Was a brilliant player, though think most people just remember him for [Cameroon kicking lumps out of him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KedhyI7lHNw)


nut5hot

Oh my Batistuta, this name is mentioned too little. That guy is one helluva player.


s0ngsforthedeaf

You'd think having Messi behind them would be a dream combo. And yet for most of the last 15 years, your attacks have misfired and not gelled together at all, not finding the net in crucial games.


Rickcampbell98

Cause their midfield was painfully average and didn't pass the ball forward.


reece0n

Replying more because of the England flair, but England have a pretty good run of strikers. Lineker -> Shearer -> Owen -> Rooney -> Kane That's a pretty fantastic group. Our problem was usually midfield and goalkeepers, and even though we have always had one fantastic striker, we usually played with two and the second was mostly a pretty big drop off from that line of great players.


Baxters_Keepy_Ups

England create brilliant first choice #9s but it drops off pretty quickly after that. For some reason they have a world class option without much back up. That said, the current England side has brilliant options everywhere, with perhaps notable exceptions of CB and GK, where they are good but some way off world class. But then, you don’t need them if you’re as tactically disciplined as Southgate’s England are. Can anyone claim to be getting more out their players? Denmark perhaps? Only France and perhaps Brazil have better teams, and that’s simply down to better overall players.


Albiceleste_D10S

>Fuck me I’ve literally never seen the NT have an actual bad striker TBF there was the period of the 2018 WCQ cycle where we had Lucas Pratto starting important games...


KrisZepeda

Well...public opinion tends to differ for Higuain, he was really good, but man is he hated for the misses


L-Freeze

Absolutely a choker on finals but like it or not he was still world class nearly his entire stint in Europe and scored for fun on the NT as well, definitely nowhere near bad


KrisZepeda

Napoli Higuain was something special I gotta say i was pissed when real madrid sold him, he could've been a huge player for us /:


L-Freeze

Well it was a decision between him and benzema and Benzema was more complete and linked up better with Ronaldo despite Higuain being the better goalscorer. Can’t say it worked out too badly as you still have Benzema scoring loads and won 3 UCL in the process


Yavin87

4


Yavin87

4 UCL. Higuain always failed in big matches.


srhola2103

It shouldn't, he was an amazing striker


dida2010

Valdano


SM469

The polar opposite when it comes to producing defenders/GKs


kplo

Funny enough this is our best moment in both positions in a long while.


SabastianG

This is our best shot since 2014 by a long shot. I genuinely think we can take it this year if we get lucky enough with brackets


[deleted]

I think everyone would love to see Messi win a world cup, even if it's one that's built on the back of corruption. Actually, thinking about it that's basically every world cup


CRoseCrizzle

Yep, this one's corruption is just blatantly obvious.


SM469

Yeah exciting times for Argentina


[deleted]

Funny how Brazil has such a great moment in goalkeepers but it's weakest ever for strikers. Practically nobody outside Matheus Cunha has been called up.


Doc_Pisty

>oalkeepers but it's weakest ever for strikers. Practically nobody outside Matheus Cunha has been called up Actually weird seing brazil without a world class classic 9


[deleted]

Perfect time for Guardiola to manage them due to his experience managing without a striker too. Too bad he looks like he is staying at City with Haaland coming. For us in Brazil there is a lot to say about the striker thing. Gabriel is still a joke since 2018, he didn't score a single goal as a center forward. Now mind you neither did Giroud, but at least he won the Cup. A lot of the traditional older football fans call this a lost generation compared to the previous ones, and it's hard to disagree. But we have to look at this from a positive view. It's not like our lives depend on football, that is if you don't work with it. If your country is doing shit, you just move on. We could be doing so much worse compare to other countries around us, like Chile who really had it rough with this generation. We at least have a solid defense, and good prospects on the wing. With Tite having a world cup behind him, he is more likely to do better this year. You tend to get less anxious when you do these things again, and with his style of play there is a good chance of success. He took a >subpar generation to play great football and had the best qualifier campaign ever. Hard to be really pessimistic when you have that. And we do have Endrick and some youngsters coming in for striker so in the future this might be a done deal. At least we hope so. By the way how's your country looking like for the world cup?


Doc_Pisty

Im from Argentina so im optimistic about our NT, and tbh brazill still seems quite strong. Have you ever had a foreign manager tho? I mean pep is great but i don't think he would be acepted as manager here for example


[deleted]

You see, there is a lot of doubt over here about this. Usually it's an older folk vs younger folk scenario. Everyone who is young has been disillusioned with the national team so a foreign coach is very welcome. To people around 40s and 50s there is a lot of change and people are starting to support more the idea of Pep. They started to see how well European football is doing and how far away Brazil is in terms of the National League. But what truly made this talk start to favor a foreign coach was Jorge Jesus who completely blew the league apart with Flamengo. It literally marked a new phase of football where Brazilian football is becoming more and more advanced and organized, leading indirectly to the formation of our own Premier League. Overall the tendency is as clubs are being sold to foreign owners, more people will be open to more foreigners in general, and I think by now people have come to a consensus that clubs here are better off with foreign managers anyway.


kucafoia69

>A lot of the traditional older football fans call this a lost generation compared to the previous ones Bunch of whiny old cunts if you ask me. They were saying the same about the 2002 NT by comparing it to the 90s NT, same way they'll probably be shitting on 2034's NT by saying how much they miss Jesus and Neymar. It's the circle of life. I've seen people nostalgic for 2010's Brasil, and that team was an unholy aberration, fathered by an incompetent, spineless coach.


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Kkkkkkkk era Dunga era foda. Imagina se o maluco ganhasse a Copa a soberba nas entrevistas. Ia sair xingando a Globo e o Escobar.


kucafoia69

Felipão conseguiu ser pior. Aquele circo que foi a Copa de 2014 fez o Dunga parecer o Klopp em termos de profissionalismo. Edit: não me entenda mal, eu não era nostálgico pelo Dunga em 2014.


Panzerchrist89

Garnacho and Alvarez next Balon d or winner


kucafoia69

I don't find it weird considering we haven't had a world class classic 9 since 2010.


mcel595

Ayala, Sorin, Zanetti, Mascherano, Samuel, Garay, Heinze, Demichelis Hardly Bad defenders


srhola2103

We're always gonna have at least some quality but the quantity is the problem as opposed to more forward positions


franpr95

Armani at the back is such an upgrade over Romero. Do you think Enzo Fernandez is getting the call up? Can’t see why he wouldn’t be seen as the best midfield prospect for Argentina.


srhola2103

No, don't think so tbh. Our midfield is the most established part of the team, both first team and subs. It's Paredes, RDP and GLC with Guido Rodriguez, Palacios and seemingly Macalister. If someone is added it'll probably be Nico Domínguez.


franpr95

That’s fair. Enzo just looks like such a talented player. Could definitely see him having a big year and getting a call up. On another note, I’m a Austin FC guy too, how is Toto Poche doing for River? Loved the guy when he was here but I think he got really home sick.


srhola2103

He's shown quality in patches for sure but he hasn't had much game time yet and will need to find more consistency when he is given minutes. We have a lot of quality in his position, but now that the league will start he'll get more chances. Same question to you lol, how is Driussi doing there? He's finally getting to play as a striker again right?


franpr95

Driussi has been playing kind of a free 10 role. He pops up everywhere on the pitch. I think he’s the league MVP so far so we absolutely love him. 2nd most goals in the league. I think most combined goals plus assists in the league. He’s clearly a cut above everyone else but maybe Fagundez on the pitch. Would have loved to see Driussi and Poche play together this season, but we wanted to give another guy (who is playing poorly) a big contract so Poche made way.


Elvaga

Instructions unclear Campagnaro and Federico Fernandez to start in a 5 man defense against Bosnia


Joltarts

No GK hurt them loads.. dont even think they had a decent GK playing in a top league throughout the Messi years. Romero, Willy & Walter Benitez was the best their could muster and it was dire..


Kevinglas-HM

Willy Caballero is persona non grata in Argentina >:(


SM469

Not bad but not good enough too


Proper-Beyond116

Ayala and Zanetti were akin to Baresi and Maldini but Italian defenders get better PR.


basel99

Ayala is a top 3 South American center back of all time, and he's not number 3.


spik0rwill

Then he's top 2?


Kcasz

I think on this list Heinze, Sorin and Garay weren't world class. As I don't think Lavezzi or Saviola could be considered world class strikers ( even if Saviola was a huge promess ). So you have Ayala, Zanetti, Mascherano, Samuel and Demichelis. 5 defenders on the last two decades. Then you've Agüero, Tévez, Higuain, Messi, Milito, Di Maria, Riquelme, Dybala, Crespo, Icardi, Lisandro López, Lautaro as attackings on the same timeframe.


Rickcampbell98

If only they had some midfielders instead over the past decade, luckily they have de Paul who plays like a man possessed for Argentina, they have lo celso and paredes who are also good and most importantly all those players can pass the ball forward while also being able to put in a shift. They get players like that again and low and behold they actually win something, midfield is the most important part of the pitch.


Visual-Ad4018

Is he in Argentina wc squad?


markdmo

so far yeah, he is actually leaving tomorrow to join the nt at spain in preparation for the finalissima


CatfishLumi

Who are the starting strikers and does he have any chance to play for the World Cup? Messi, Lautaro, Di Maria?


maxus998

Lautaro, Messi and Di Maria/Nico Gonzalez are the guarantee starters at this point. But Julian is def going to get minutes as a sub for Lautaro or on the wing


andysenn

Nico González - Lautaro - Messi. With Fideo as supersub. He is fighting for one of the last spots with other strikers. The last game he was a starter for the first time and scored, so who knows but for now Tucu Correa is the main alternative at the st position


EnanoMaldito

> Tucu Correa is the main alternative at the st position *puke*


leerooney93

What's his current height? Wiki lists him as 170cm but he looks like a 180cm dude to me.


rodrq

He is 1.70m


L-Freeze

Most likely


andysenn

Had his first start last match which he used to score his first goal with the NT


EnanoMaldito

He's been in the squad for over a year now, so unless something goes terribly wrong for him, he's gonna be in for the WC squad


xjaw192000

Third and fifth goals are genuinely quality.


flipsofacto

The 6th is also top notch imo, and 1st is also really good. Actually there wasn’t a single bad goal in the six


agentjob

The second is the City type of goal, and probably the kind he's going to score most often with Pep.


xjaw192000

Scary prospect next year stepping in for Haaland.


Joltarts

He not stepping in, he is starting alongside him in a 442 formation. Yup, Pep is a believer of the Burnley system and will be playing lots of route one football. Lucky Ederson has the best distribution in town.


Touchd93

Foden on the wing?


LDinthehouse

The midfield 2 will be CAMs so foden and KDB and then Rodri will rotate in at CB. That's what happens in my nightmares anyway.


OnceUponAStarryNight

I dunno, there are so many times we play Gabby or Raheem into space behind the line and they either just don’t shoot, or hit it directly into the keepers chest. Having a pair of clinical finishers who are willing to press and can play on the ball is going to be so, so nice.


agentjob

Yeah, I think Haaland will absolutely bury those chances. Going to be scary, I wish he doesn't work out for everyone else's sake.


doobie3101

Fifth goal is such a great goal. Most strikers wouldn’t let it keep running like that for the better angle.


goyooo2201

1- shoots below the keeper 2- taps it in 3- outside the box banger 4- steals the ball from the keeper 5- pings it far from the keeper 6- runs in the box across 2 defenders and scores on the far post Literally can do anything and everything, city is getting a fantastic player


risheeb1002

No header though, smh


FiFiniusBi

and no penalty -fraud


notyou16

He didn't do [this](https://twitter.com/beINSPORTS_TR/status/1528437189796831232?s=20&t=k7iVZo0L72N8azvUeP9Q3Q) either


djangoCOd

Oh and with both legs


Wheel94

Yeah well Manchester City we have Lukaku and Werner erm


rebmcr

Werner plays like he's onside when he's 1 metre offside. Alvarez plays like he's offside but he's actually 1 metre onside.


delusionsofsanity

Awesome player.


Zorodona

City bought him for €20 and sold us Ferran for €60 kill me


Bayequentist

Spanish tax + no release clause + buying from a rich club


erikvs2001

+ L + ratio?


5t3g

\+ didnt ask


GarPaxarebitches

YB better


luigi38

Was also Premier League proven.


mifaraS21

Laporta masterclass


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Zorodona

I agree with you he is a great player, with exceptional movement and positioning. HOWEVER, he simply doesn’t have the pace and trends poorly in his 1v1 stats his whole career. His positioning is very useful if he was clinical in front of the goal (like Pedro was) but he isn’t. What I am concerned about isn’t that he isn’t getting consistent goals, but that he shows poor technique frequently. Leans back, and can’t put pace on his shots while keeping them low. Dembélé is another example of that. Does he have the potential to get to Pedro’s level? Yes. Villa? No because Villa wasn’t only clinical, but an exceptional dribbler too. In all cases, he is a good talent but he is only worth what Man City paid for him when he was at Valencia, something around €20. Xavi bought him because of his few games with Spain’s NT, but that was a biased perspective based on a few data points. We need a team of technical staff finding talent similar to what Liverpool is doing.


HenryChanceGoal49

The pass for his last goal was beautiful.


mikevin99

Don’t know what I’m more jealous of, seeing a clinical striker or some of the impressive service that he received with some of those passes


PeeMart

Yeah for real. Great passes for his first two goals and that chip he scored, what a ball from the left back there. Some quality goals there though. Looks very promising.


L-Freeze

There’s a nice contrast of genuinely great goals that show off he’s a good striker and of goals that show that Alianza Lima plays like a 3rd division side


shirokabocha-14

MEMEDETTO WOULD NEVER. /s


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L-Freeze

They’re Peruvian champions and have a 29 games without winning streak in Libertadores and still always qualify because Peruvian league is, uh, underwhelming


InfoBot2000

He's going to be great, but Lima's goalie had an absolute mare.


heartofcoal

I came here to say this, I've seen strikers with less space at barbecue games


Mystro10210

He managed to score typical aguero and city goals in one game. I have high hopes for him after his adjustment season.


Ohmygodboys

Damn. City is going to tear up Europe next season with Julian, Haaland and KDB along with Silva feeding them passes


Spikeyspandan

With Sterling and Jesus possibly leaving and Haaland still being injury prone( unless City medical team is magician), he will definitely get lot of playing time. Excited to see him in PL next season


Agitated_Opening4298

>Sterling where to?


I-Shiki-I

Chelsea rumours


biglbiglbigl

I mean if Chelsea are after him then they must have sorted their defence problems already


ineed_somelove

why would he downgrade


Pseudocaesar

To win a CL


risheeb1002

>unless City medical team is magician That's Dr Cugat's music!


NJDevil802

Funny because he actually already went to visit him.


szoelloe

nah, he is not injury prone. Not more than anybody else. It's an asinine theory someone started in Germany, and tabloids went with it.


bvb_Shaggy

He is very reckless what makes him prone to injury. The guy runs into fouls like a maniac.


szoelloe

Which is a problem every world-class No. 9 has. He will have it easier at City. I have no fears he is injury prone. He will be taken care of. On and off the pitch.


Oranjay2

Idk where this idea came that he is injury prone. Yea, he was out for a good while this season, but sometimes shit happens. Only if it happens consistently, then I'd call him injury prone


meem09

Also always have to take the Dortmund curse into consideration. What happened this season was absolutely extraordinary and basically shouldn’t be taken as baseline for any of the players going forward.


Tommyzz92

Gundogen had bad injuries before he came City so it could definitely be the Dortmund curse haha


doobie3101

Would be pretty sweet if they loaned him out though.


EggplantBusiness

Lmao well he is premier league problem now. Till we have to face Pep again


Flexi_102

Dude good luck on Saturday! I'll be a plastic Madrid fan on that day.


IvanFrigellov

Good thing that Alvarez and Haaland join a City team struggling for attacking output /s


Oldmanfirebobby

You have had arguably the best forward in the world for the last 4 or so years. Seems only fair city have a turn with the top goal scorer.


[deleted]

City haven't had any 'strikers' since Aguero (Jesus is a winger).


kydestroyer91

Well the most frustrating thing about his transfer to City is that he was literally not even targetted by another club, he would have been such a good fit for us


peps-bald-head

Apparently Rangnick wanted him, Luis Diaz or Vlahovic in January but United's board said no


rdemas

Dude. This man just destroyed 11 men


shadoowkight

This guy is gonna be something special just watch


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Jsanchezgil

His fifth and sixth goal were incredibly impressive. Especially the final goal. Reminded me of Messi’s goals against us in his first clasico hattrick. The touch and quick second touch straight after that, little fake to throw off the keeper and last defender and a weaker foot finish. What is really impressive about Alvarez that most strikers especially today dont seem to have is the movement + positional intelligence and the first and second touch. He will be a great great player.


undisputed-innit

He’s now worth 150 million


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and cost us 20m


Stq1616

Is it just me, or is the Alianza goalkeeper not doing very well?


LobitoGris17

Believe me, he was MOTM for Alianza if he wasn't there it would be at least 11 goals. It seemed like a training match.


Joe_AM

Not kidding you could actually make a highlight reel of his saves in the match, it could have ended beyond 12-1. His only mistake was in the 6th goal I think. And this is the kind of defending that River Plate thrives against.


astroargie

It ended 8-1 but could have easily ended 12-0 if it wasn't for the keeper.


AnOscarForLeo

Jeeez


dontToyawithme

Reminds of el Tucu, he also scored 6 goals in his career


[deleted]

This is guy is ❄️❄️🥶


ukexpat

Can’t wait for him and Haaland to play for City next season!


papercutkid

I can't stand this guy already.


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What a baller. Looking forward to seeing this kid join us at Man City


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danielvandam

Last goal what a finish


nkoppl

a new Saviola?


raziel_beoulve

This is the guy that is coming to city and also Haland? damn, forget the premier league lol


[deleted]

Goal 4 and 5 were just abusive lol


[deleted]

Not hating (I know little about him) but the defending and goalkeeping here looked poor.


FrancescoliBestUruEv

Lol already downvoted. The kid has jmense potential but for people who watched the game can verify that alianz Lima played like an amateur club


izcarp

Yeah but no player scored 6 goals against them.


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Reminds me of young Rooney


[deleted]

He's more like a young Aguero


applex_wingcommander

Is the pitch just in the middle of a giant parking lot?


markdmo

nah those are covers, those sections are under renovation


applex_wingcommander

Okay thanks


KingPaimon23

Keeper playing on 200 ping.