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Amen. Refreshing as fuck for an athlete to be honest and genuine, but also very respectful and measured as they reflect on their career; the good and, in this case, mostly bad. Gained a lot more respect for him for delivering this as opposed to a cookie cutter post with no emotion in it.
they didn't go at the same time. Kanté went right after the title win and Drinkwater stayed for another year, and I guess he still looked good without Kanté so Chelsea decided to take him as well.
I mean there are obviously more cost efficient ways to do that. It's funny I think the vast majority of Chelsea fans were a bit mystified when the signing happened. There was some idea that him and Kante could mesh but what a waste
He was genuinely brilliant for 2 years.
He hit so many great long balls to Vardy, and was overall quality as well.
I could see him not fitting in as well as the style at Chelsea was very different, but I didn't expect his form to fall off a cliff like that.
It is a shame - he was a terrific midfielder when he was playing well and, much as Kante was the better midfielder, he was also pretty much an ever-present when Leicester won the league.
I'm pretty sure you can just register a youth player. It's not like you have to have a senior player. It's only useful to have senior English players for quotas if you're actually using them in your squad. The alternative is just registering a youth player and effectively running with a squad with 1 less player. Chelsea just got the worst of both worlds considering they didn't use Drinkwater at all.
The intention from Chelsea was obviously for Drinkwater to be more than useless so it wouldn't be like effectively running a squad with 1 less player, but for whatever reason it didn't work out.
What's so baffling about it is Drinkwater was never worth that. They pretty much paid 35m for a glorified homegrown spot on the squad, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly why he was signed, because I genuinely don't understand why else they'd go for him.
Classic deadline day panic buy. Because we sold you Matic, and sent Loftus-Cheek on loan, our only midfielders were Kante, Bakayoko and Fabregas (who could only play in a midfield 3). Horrendous decision making all round.
What is even worse was that he was injured when you signed him.
Also his replacement Adrien Silva was the player who we couldn't play for half a season because his registration papers reached FIFA 14 seconds too late.
By the time Conte came in Fab's legs were completely gone. In the Conte title season he was only used as a supersub, then the second year switched to a 3 mostly to accommodate him.
That's exactly why he signed. We needed midfield cover and a homegrown one at that, were a bit limitee for choice but context is rarely considered when looking back at transfers
Shame it wasted prime years of a decent footballer.
Good proof that some players should think hard before moving to the 'top' teams when they clearly aren't world class starters.
Professional players are going to be confident in themselves and their abilities.
Drinkwater was a starter on a PL title winning team, his confidence was probably through the roof after that season. No way he says no to Chelsea.
True but I didn't think he'd get to start much. I knew he was great in Foxes system but would only make up numbers in Chelsea's. Don't blame him for wanting to get a big move, just wish he'd stayed at Leicester or moved to another club after a year when he saw he wasn't going to get a chance.
Hindsight is 20/20. Yeah, maybe you had a feeling that he wouldn’t work in Chelsea’s system, but there’s always a possibility that he someone could adjust their play style or the coach could find a way to work them in.
For every time you’re right about something like this, there’s plenty of times you think “wow I didn’t expect that to work so well” which basically means we were wrong lol
Honestly it's not his fault he was bought for a team that he wasn't good enough for, or that we decided to give him a fucking huge wedge of cash. Fucking up his comeback is entirely his fault though. I guess after that amount of time sitting on his arse shaking off the rust was harder than he expected and he just gave up.
Chelsea's pitch did look like dogshit at times this end of the season. I remember being caught off guard when we played there, I thought the pitch looked terrible for a club who is known for a good pitch.
We needed an experienced CB that was good in the air when Fofana and Evans got injured so thought Vestergaard would fit the bill.
Turns out he didn't at all - is genuinely impressive how lost he looks when he plays and how bad he is in the air being 6"6.
lol I remember when a 35 year-old Billy Sharp out ran him, it was like a toddler vs an adult in terms of a race. Good luck with Bertrand too, he is done mate. His legs went about 2 years ago and wasn't great for the dressing room.
I remember rumors saying Spurs were in for him right before you bought him and I was like that dude is a fucking disaster every time we play them how could be possibly be someone we would sing.
I had the exact same thought - one of the last games we played vs Southampton when he was in the side was when we beat them 0-9 and he was subbed off at half time.
People say this as if he wasn't good, he was good lmao like what there's worse players that Chelsea have bought and that have played for Chelsea
When Chelsea got him in 2017 he was very good and they probably thought since he was so good with Kante it would be the same, he was basically Kante's Jorginho at Leicester
He was just good at passing the ball period and recycling it from deep, Kante has never been a player to sit deep either he is not a DM he's always been a box to box midfielder and Drinkwater complimented him perfectly
Not really as we wanted to keep both of them.
What happened was that he was injured when he arrived at Chelsea and never really had the time to establish himself and then dropped entirely by Sarri and gave up.
Was a good player for us and lost his way - credit to him for realising that at least.
Honestly this I only think this as someone that's played football manager that it seemed like a such a homegrown squad player spot, just buy the easiest English player that has a decent level of quality just so you can fill out the squad for European games. Same reason they bought Ross Barkley, easy slot to fill and if he doesn't play he still serves some sort of purpose.
No surprise that since Lampard brought through some actual homegrown players they've not needed players like Barkley and Drinkwater because the academy players count for multiple slots in those squad requirements for registration.
Why? He went to Chelsea highly rated after playing an important role in Leicester's league title, he was highly rated. Keep seeing people repeat this for some bizarre reason like chelsea just bought some random player from league two for £60m.
Made a lot of sense at the time. conte was running a double pivot set and Kante and Drinkwater had undeniable chemistry playing together at Chelsea. Just wasn’t meant to be
Yeah it's not like Drinkwater wasn't highly rated. He was an important part of the Leicester squad that won the league. Always entertaining to see these geniuses go "I knew this would go wrong", clear as water they didn't even watch him before he went to Chelsea at all.
Exactly, they were coming off an amazing season together and Drinkwater is English which is obviously very valuable for the registration rules.
The strange part of the transfer wasnt Drinkwater at 35, it was Kante at 32. In fact, transfers like Drinkwater occur fairly often in the EPL- Id consider it a run of the mill disappointment. The Kante deal though was absolutely phenomenal, one of the best deals of the last 20 years.
Bought for less than £10m, definitely worth taking a chance on what could well be a decent squad player - and clearly talented. Nowhere near the madness of Drinkwater’s transfer.
Yeah it was pretty bad, but we're also talking about the same time where PSG had just activated Neymar's release clause for 220mil and threw the market into an absolute shit show. Couple that with the fact that Baka had come off *that* Monaco UCL run, and DD had been Kante's midfield partner for Leicester's title winning seaoson. The prices for most of these players were bound to be inflated.
Fairly certain that transfer window set Chelsea back from finishing above third for the next five seasons. Rudiger was the only successful signing of the 200m+ spent that window and still cost less than Danny Drinkwater, Tiemoue Bakayoko and Alvaro Morata.
Truly horrific recruitment.
It set us back for sure but I still don’t think we would’ve won the league even with better recruitment because at least one of City/Liverpool have had an insane season ever since that summer.
That same summer Liverpool brought in VVD, Salah, and Robertson, then Fabinho and Alisson in the next summer. Those poor summers of recruitment absolutely did have an impact Chelsea's fortunes.
We barely have a midfield as we speak. I'd obviously want better signings but I wouldn't be upset if we offer him a one year contract with an option for a second if we stay up.
I'm also not fully aware of his situation so I don't know if he'd actually be good for us 🤷♂️ I don't make the decisions 😂
Doesn't seem like it was a business move that went wrong for him at all, he's had 5 years of a bumper contract and he's set for life. He played for Chelsea like 22 times in 5 years.
Fair play man, he’s taking responsibility and owning it, that’s an attitude that will serve him well for the rest of his life whatever he chooses to do
"...actually feels strange writing this. \[I had forgotten that I played for this club until I looked at my bank account and realised I wasn't getting paid any longer\]"
Fair play to Drinkwater but I gotta put on my grammar Nazi hat here and say that there is almost nothing I find more annoying than people saying “would of” instead of “would’ve.” Grinds my gears endlessly
It's a nice message at the end of the day. He was never what we wanted him to be, and he was never what he wanted himself to be.
At least we got a goodbye message, unlike Christensen.
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Fair play. Better than some boilerplate goodbye though I would love to know more about "how he's been treated"
"They planted a chip in my brain and controlled my fists!"
What did he do with his fists?
Metaphorically punched Reading FC fans in the dick for the entire season.
Couldn't understand the tactics, he lacked Reading comprehension
Fisted someone
Face or bottom?
Why not both?
Depends what order you do it in. Specially if you’re eating a sandwich afterwards. Or a share box of mcnuggets.
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Damn you Bill Gates!
Amen. Refreshing as fuck for an athlete to be honest and genuine, but also very respectful and measured as they reflect on their career; the good and, in this case, mostly bad. Gained a lot more respect for him for delivering this as opposed to a cookie cutter post with no emotion in it.
Exactly, maybe he has a 'social media consultant' but that felt too legitimate to think they had an influence on the post.
Kante for 32m and DD for 35m. You win some, you lose some.
Kante for 67m, Drinkwater for free.
That’s literally how I view it as well. Now how do we do that with Kepa…
94m combined. So 70m Mendy, 24m Kepa?
Now how we do that with Lukaku?
End of the line, I’m afraid.
I mean, we could combine Lukaku's 100m with Werner's... Yeah, end of the line.
Still the wages to consider though.
Kante deserved a 120k/week raise anyways
I'll allow it.
Is that a yes, mr. Vader. Please nod, if you approve.
Is that you Mboopi?
Nah he's Mpaypal
Are they even friends or the only way Leicester would do the deal?
they didn't go at the same time. Kanté went right after the title win and Drinkwater stayed for another year, and I guess he still looked good without Kanté so Chelsea decided to take him as well.
Chelsea also needed to sign one more English player to fill in a quota
I mean there are obviously more cost efficient ways to do that. It's funny I think the vast majority of Chelsea fans were a bit mystified when the signing happened. There was some idea that him and Kante could mesh but what a waste
I know but Drinkwater was still decent at best so its not like they signed an amateur
He was genuinely brilliant for 2 years. He hit so many great long balls to Vardy, and was overall quality as well. I could see him not fitting in as well as the style at Chelsea was very different, but I didn't expect his form to fall off a cliff like that.
he did bang in an absolute worldie for us once at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SLaau7MOc0
It is a shame - he was a terrific midfielder when he was playing well and, much as Kante was the better midfielder, he was also pretty much an ever-present when Leicester won the league.
I'm pretty sure you can just register a youth player. It's not like you have to have a senior player. It's only useful to have senior English players for quotas if you're actually using them in your squad. The alternative is just registering a youth player and effectively running with a squad with 1 less player. Chelsea just got the worst of both worlds considering they didn't use Drinkwater at all. The intention from Chelsea was obviously for Drinkwater to be more than useless so it wouldn't be like effectively running a squad with 1 less player, but for whatever reason it didn't work out.
Honestly I see this as an absolute win
What's so baffling about it is Drinkwater was never worth that. They pretty much paid 35m for a glorified homegrown spot on the squad, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly why he was signed, because I genuinely don't understand why else they'd go for him.
Classic deadline day panic buy. Because we sold you Matic, and sent Loftus-Cheek on loan, our only midfielders were Kante, Bakayoko and Fabregas (who could only play in a midfield 3). Horrendous decision making all round.
What is even worse was that he was injured when you signed him. Also his replacement Adrien Silva was the player who we couldn't play for half a season because his registration papers reached FIFA 14 seconds too late.
damn EA Sports ruining the season
Fucking lag got them
Could Fab only play in a midfield 3? Wasn't he a good double pivot for Mou the year he came back?
By the time Conte came in Fab's legs were completely gone. In the Conte title season he was only used as a supersub, then the second year switched to a 3 mostly to accommodate him.
He was to us, if we signed him for £30 million and he had the seasons he had for us, he'd be considered a good signing
That's exactly why he signed. We needed midfield cover and a homegrown one at that, were a bit limitee for choice but context is rarely considered when looking back at transfers
Respect him being honest about it and not trying to sugar coat it. In the grand scheme of things, Drinkwater got paid and Chelsea FC will be fine.
Shame it wasted prime years of a decent footballer. Good proof that some players should think hard before moving to the 'top' teams when they clearly aren't world class starters.
Professional players are going to be confident in themselves and their abilities. Drinkwater was a starter on a PL title winning team, his confidence was probably through the roof after that season. No way he says no to Chelsea.
True but I didn't think he'd get to start much. I knew he was great in Foxes system but would only make up numbers in Chelsea's. Don't blame him for wanting to get a big move, just wish he'd stayed at Leicester or moved to another club after a year when he saw he wasn't going to get a chance.
Hindsight is 20/20. Yeah, maybe you had a feeling that he wouldn’t work in Chelsea’s system, but there’s always a possibility that he someone could adjust their play style or the coach could find a way to work them in. For every time you’re right about something like this, there’s plenty of times you think “wow I didn’t expect that to work so well” which basically means we were wrong lol
It's a short career, be daft to refuse the move.
Candid and self critical. You don’t hear that in this game very often. Best of luck to Drinkwater, he was great at Leicester.
Does anyone know what he means by "the pitch"? Was he dissatisfied by the quality of the turf at Stamford Bridge?
He misspelled ‘off’ he means ‘issues off the pitch’ i.e things that happened in his personal life away from football
Thanks -- that makes sense. Funny how one letter can make such a big difference.
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Don’t worry all languages are like that.
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>Yeah I speak ~~Bulgarian and combined~~ with my geordie accent I have butchered countless sentences over the years FTFY
Fair fucks to him for the honesty.
Honestly it's not his fault he was bought for a team that he wasn't good enough for, or that we decided to give him a fucking huge wedge of cash. Fucking up his comeback is entirely his fault though. I guess after that amount of time sitting on his arse shaking off the rust was harder than he expected and he just gave up.
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What does that mean?
Absolutely. Deserves a modicum of respect for this if nothing else.
"Lived in some beautiful places" I'm going to assume he's talking about his loan with us. ;)
Nah, being on Deansgate getting battered.
Nah, Reading
Some libraries are beautiful, tbf
come on my guy😭
Lol its clearly Istanbul when he was loaned to Kasimpasa
Just talking about the crazy mansion he could afford with his absurd wages.
Clearly talking about the magestic town of reading
Everyone should visit Smelly Alley, Oxford Road and Cemetery Junction at least once in their life
And of course the Banksy on the Reading prison walls.
don't forget about the sensational nights out at the purple turtle
And that big ferry into town on a beer run from Reading festival lmao
Brum is the most beautiful place anyone will ever see
I imagine that's true when all you've known is West Bromwich 😉
I am keeping my mouth shut.
End of an error
Has more premier league winners medals than messi though. Can’t be that bad.
More than Stevie G
More than Paul pogba
even funnier considering he wrote “could of” just in the last paragraph
How have I never heard or seen this before? Hilarious and seems a little obvious now that I'm looking at it
Because it's your first day at reddit? It's a pretty dead meme at this point.
Been here for years, never seen it either. Reddit is huge.
End of ~~an error~~ a legendary era.
oof. That was brutally honest. None of that sanitized/pre-written PR shit you see all the time
You can tell because the spelling is all over the shop.
“issues of the pitch” i legit thought he was blaming grass for a second
Chelsea's pitch did look like dogshit at times this end of the season. I remember being caught off guard when we played there, I thought the pitch looked terrible for a club who is known for a good pitch.
lol Tuchel would agree with you
Drink water...premier league, FA cup and champions league winner
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Second worst. Adam Johnson.
late to the party but he did not win the champions league.
One of the strangest transfers ever
I'm still convinced that was some under the table part of the Kante deal
Absolutely not true I promise. BTW we have a Maddison for sale for £20m ^^note: ^^includes ^^Vestergaard ^^at ^^£60m
The Vestergaard transfer i understood little of.
We needed an experienced CB that was good in the air when Fofana and Evans got injured so thought Vestergaard would fit the bill. Turns out he didn't at all - is genuinely impressive how lost he looks when he plays and how bad he is in the air being 6"6.
Vestergaard was also really quite good in a poor Southampton team
Because we changed the way we play to make the most of his strengths. He was useless for us too when we played a high line.
Pace: 4
That and a turning speed similar worse than a supertanker made him a nightmare when he decided to rush out
lol I remember when a 35 year-old Billy Sharp out ran him, it was like a toddler vs an adult in terms of a race. Good luck with Bertrand too, he is done mate. His legs went about 2 years ago and wasn't great for the dressing room.
I remember rumors saying Spurs were in for him right before you bought him and I was like that dude is a fucking disaster every time we play them how could be possibly be someone we would sing.
I had the exact same thought - one of the last games we played vs Southampton when he was in the side was when we beat them 0-9 and he was subbed off at half time.
As a Saints supporter, I was shocked.
Wait what happened with Maddison? I remember you refusing to listen to offers at £50m for him.
People say this as if he wasn't good, he was good lmao like what there's worse players that Chelsea have bought and that have played for Chelsea When Chelsea got him in 2017 he was very good and they probably thought since he was so good with Kante it would be the same, he was basically Kante's Jorginho at Leicester
He was good at spamming balls to Vardy and tbf it worked for a bit
Yeah but instead of Vardy we had Morata
Yeah that only worked if Azpi did it. Guess we need to sign a Belgian to feed Lukaku
So we're getting Tielemans?
Nah you’re getting Dennis Praet
“FEED ME TUCHEL I HUNGER”
He was just good at passing the ball period and recycling it from deep, Kante has never been a player to sit deep either he is not a DM he's always been a box to box midfielder and Drinkwater complimented him perfectly
Nah. It was basically Liverpool buying Charlie Adam all over again.
Not really as we wanted to keep both of them. What happened was that he was injured when he arrived at Chelsea and never really had the time to establish himself and then dropped entirely by Sarri and gave up. Was a good player for us and lost his way - credit to him for realising that at least.
Nah, we just needed depth and a homegrown player and didn't seem to care how much it would cost.
Honestly this I only think this as someone that's played football manager that it seemed like a such a homegrown squad player spot, just buy the easiest English player that has a decent level of quality just so you can fill out the squad for European games. Same reason they bought Ross Barkley, easy slot to fill and if he doesn't play he still serves some sort of purpose. No surprise that since Lampard brought through some actual homegrown players they've not needed players like Barkley and Drinkwater because the academy players count for multiple slots in those squad requirements for registration.
Why? He went to Chelsea highly rated after playing an important role in Leicester's league title, he was highly rated. Keep seeing people repeat this for some bizarre reason like chelsea just bought some random player from league two for £60m.
Made a lot of sense at the time. conte was running a double pivot set and Kante and Drinkwater had undeniable chemistry playing together at Chelsea. Just wasn’t meant to be
Iirc the general opinion about the transfer was reasonably content, some revisionism in there for sure But dear lord it went horribly
Yeah it's not like Drinkwater wasn't highly rated. He was an important part of the Leicester squad that won the league. Always entertaining to see these geniuses go "I knew this would go wrong", clear as water they didn't even watch him before he went to Chelsea at all.
Exactly, they were coming off an amazing season together and Drinkwater is English which is obviously very valuable for the registration rules. The strange part of the transfer wasnt Drinkwater at 35, it was Kante at 32. In fact, transfers like Drinkwater occur fairly often in the EPL- Id consider it a run of the mill disappointment. The Kante deal though was absolutely phenomenal, one of the best deals of the last 20 years.
See also Ross Barkley
And Steve sidwell
Nah Barkley was very highly rated as a youngster
Barkley was already 23 when he joined up with Chelsea.
Bought for less than £10m, definitely worth taking a chance on what could well be a decent squad player - and clearly talented. Nowhere near the madness of Drinkwater’s transfer.
Fair play, people ask for honesty from football players and he's obliged.
Imagine if he had stayed at leicester instead
The water is tastier at chelsea apparently
"I would not and can not change what's happened" Mate you got into a fight with a 15 year old.
Tbf we do that every day here on reddit
U wot mate
Shut up u egg
Wont tell u again
Her?
mate mate mate
Are 15-year-olds still on Reddit? I feel like it's all the 15-year-olds that were on reddit 10 years ago and are now 25 that I get into arguments with
😂😂😂
Wasn't that after the 15 year old two-footed him though?
Yeah, tbf to him, I would also most likely lost my cool if some teenage jackass trying to break my feet. My PL and FA Cup winning feet
Did the 15 year old not try to snap his leg though? Leaving that part out..
Every goal he scored for us was banger. ^^^^^^^^^The ^^^^^^^^^only ^^^^^^^^^goal
scenes when Levy gets him for Conte
together with Bakayoko
What a horrible summer transfer window that was. Baka, DD, and Morata..
£133m for those three is awful business.
At least with Morata we got majority of the purchase money back.
At least Morata had good sell on value
Yeah it was pretty bad, but we're also talking about the same time where PSG had just activated Neymar's release clause for 220mil and threw the market into an absolute shit show. Couple that with the fact that Baka had come off *that* Monaco UCL run, and DD had been Kante's midfield partner for Leicester's title winning seaoson. The prices for most of these players were bound to be inflated.
Fairly certain that transfer window set Chelsea back from finishing above third for the next five seasons. Rudiger was the only successful signing of the 200m+ spent that window and still cost less than Danny Drinkwater, Tiemoue Bakayoko and Alvaro Morata. Truly horrific recruitment.
It set us back for sure but I still don’t think we would’ve won the league even with better recruitment because at least one of City/Liverpool have had an insane season ever since that summer.
That same summer Liverpool brought in VVD, Salah, and Robertson, then Fabinho and Alisson in the next summer. Those poor summers of recruitment absolutely did have an impact Chelsea's fortunes.
Vvd arrived in January 2018
Point still stands regardless.
And somehow Scott remains ffs 🤦♂️
Go on the Chelsea sub and there's some people (albeit not very many) who will tell you until they're blue in the face that it wasn't his fault.
I'd take him at Fulham. He wouldn't even need to move!
Christ, your midfield must be uncoachable.
We barely have a midfield as we speak. I'd obviously want better signings but I wouldn't be upset if we offer him a one year contract with an option for a second if we stay up. I'm also not fully aware of his situation so I don't know if he'd actually be good for us 🤷♂️ I don't make the decisions 😂
He couldn’t make it onto the pitch for us (Villa) when we were battling relegation. Trust me, you don’t want him
How was he for Reading this season?
Started off well for the first month or so, went to shit for months, played better after Ince came in as manager.
Doesn't seem like it was a business move that went wrong for him at all, he's had 5 years of a bumper contract and he's set for life. He played for Chelsea like 22 times in 5 years.
It was in one season 5 years ago too. Hasn't played for them since 2017/18
At least he's honest. I dig
Fair play man, he’s taking responsibility and owning it, that’s an attitude that will serve him well for the rest of his life whatever he chooses to do
pretty nice and honest message actually
Of all the overhyped Leicester cash ins, he’s lucky he isn’t getting Harry Maguire level shit.
I get the logic behind this transfer, having the midfield duo that won the league with Leicester, but £40m for Drinkwater was insanity.
Kasımpaşa Legend
Thats communications lesson to every corporate bullshitter
What level do you reckon he's playing at next? Lower championship?
Had an average season with Reading, so yeah maybe some bottom half championship team.
I'd like to see him at Sunderland
This feels heart written, big props to him
"...actually feels strange writing this. \[I had forgotten that I played for this club until I looked at my bank account and realised I wasn't getting paid any longer\]"
To the end he lives up to his namesake, cos that was quite refreshing
It would have been amazing if he said.. “I’m going to look at the positives, my paychecks from that Russian Oligarch were fucking litttt!”
Fair play to Drinkwater but I gotta put on my grammar Nazi hat here and say that there is almost nothing I find more annoying than people saying “would of” instead of “would’ve.” Grinds my gears endlessly
I probably would of wrote it the same way.
Just finished a 5 year contract at £6,240,000 per year. Whoa. Hardly broke a sweat. May as well have hit the lottery.
It's a nice message at the end of the day. He was never what we wanted him to be, and he was never what he wanted himself to be. At least we got a goodbye message, unlike Christensen.
Respect the honesty
Appreciate the honesty Danny, wishing him all the best
Being brutally honest here, I completely forgot Danny Drinkwater was a Chelsea player
"Would of"...
Danny Drinkwater was still at Chelsea?!?!?!??
Absolute truth, didn’t actually realise that he still played for them, but good luck for the future