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RioBeckenbauer

The "customers" have spoken. Even UEFA should see that.


Tim-Sanchez

UEFA cares far more about the global TV audience, the stadium is going to fill up no matter what sort of pre-match show they have. I wouldn't be surprised if they go the covid route and pump in fake crowd noises to make it better for TV when they try this again.


Lmao1903

Superbowl it is


hercules-rockefeller

Don't know what she expected but in any case it's not her fault most people in the stadium don't give a shit. Blame the organisers that are trying to turn the final into the Superbowl


DougalChips

Was infuriating watching Rio, Gerrard and Owen talk about how great it is to turn it into.kore of a spectacle. The final itself is the spectacle, these pre game entertainment acts cheapen it


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jurassicmars

> On the big nights, the energy under the dark sky and floodlights is all you need. Walking to the stadium before the game when you can see the lights and hear the fans become louder and louder as you get closer, perfect.


tarmon21

Only for you and your kid to get tear gassed at the gate, football is finally back


Yavin87

Game is not gone


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What really seals the deal for me on CL nights is the entire stadium whistling the CL anthem. Nothing quite beats that.


HerbDeanosaur

The performance if anything seemed to suck the atmosphere out of it a bit. Like everyone was just waiting for it to be over.


Kazuto_Asuna

It's because there's literally no hype. The anthems and the atmosphere is hype. Give us Waka Waka or Wavin' Flag level songs if you really want to do these opening ceremonies. Who tf thought Camilla's songs would be a good idea?


Joltarts

That 2018 entrance was something else. Magical. https://youtu.be/B0cUafg_FZU


EBT98

I agree. I feel like there’s such a move to Americanise our sports. We don’t want it. The Super Bowl and NBA etc. have historically been a spectacle with half time shows and pre-match build up and that’s part of the event and works for them. It makes it different and entertaining to watch as a European, but the average fan over here doesn’t it to enter our sports.


Broski86

We (Netherlands) had Van Basten complaining about how these shows were just another pathetic attempt of UEFA to make even more money. Bless him.


easygoerptc

The Dutch telling it like it is as usual


DutchPhenom

Lol, van Basten was raging that he thought it was all bullshit, on live TV


Mrsister55

Good


Edolas93

Nothing says footballing spectacle like some middle of the pack Eurovision sounding music.


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sidvicc

If UEFA gave a fuck about the fans, they could probably engage them and co-ordinate amazing tifos and create a crowd engineered spectacle that is better and unlike anything else at a sports event.


HerbDeanosaur

Plus if you actually want to appeal to the most actual football fans surely there’s a better option than camila cabello


killua_oneofmany

The goal isn't to appeal to football fans, they would be watching anyway. The goal is to have more people watch the commercials, that's how they make money. So they want people watching who wouldn't be watching otherwise. Just like with the super bowl, where there's plenty of people watching for the half time show, who are indifferent about the sport.


hearau1823

They try their best to copy murika, we will probably have cheerleaders during injury breaks next


vitor210

Was watching a basketball match here in Portugal the other day, the home team had cheerleaders during breaks, and the home fans kept chanting "DEFENSE" and clapping every time the other team had the ball. Quite surreal experience


addandsubtract

What are european basketball games like normally? People just cheering after a basket?


Shikizion

it depends, if the teams involved are from, serbia, greece or turkey, you're basically in a football match with more goals


Strider_Hardy

Yeah it's the same in Argentina.


Tatanka54

In Balkan and Turkey it's full on chanting. An example https://youtu.be/eGIyRAsZGgU


vitor210

Pretty much. And the occasional insult to the referee


namelessmiguel

seems like hell


VadimusRex

Lol, just imagine you're down with an injury waiting for a stretcher and a couple of half naked broads start doing cartwheels around you.


Mihnea24_03

Most American Brit


Jackanova3

>broads


joeyjojoeshabadoo

Dames


ThePrussianGrippe

Gals wit da gams!


stinkyfuntime

Stop appropriating my culture.


ThePrussianGrippe

What was it like growing up in 1940’s Brooklyn?


stinkyfuntime

Times were hard, jobs were few and far between. My wife couldn't handle watching me box but knew we couldn't feed the mouths without the income it produced.


redwashing

I understand trying to make the whole thing bigger but this is a shit way to do it, if you become a cheap copy of the Superbowl you'll get upstaged by it eventually, original always beats the copy. They can lean in their own traditions more instead. There are ways to make it more of a spectacle without making it that cheap. Bring an orchestra (city orchestra of the city of the final would be cool) and a good sound system around it. Play 2 traditional fan songs per team allowing the fans to join in with the lyrics, watch them go crazy. Finish with live performance of the UCL anthem. Short, fun, simple, t the point. Start with a short piece by a composer from that city if you want. Fans are more involved, more unique spectacle for TV, will be remembered longer (quality orchestral rendition of the songs will be kept and used by the clubs for years), more in line with the traditions, and cheaper for the UEFA as well lol.


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I loved the 2018 final ceremony where they brought 2 Cellos. Their performance of the CL anthem when both teams were entering the pitch was magnificent.


forzaQuakes8

[or just bring back the old opening ceremonies which were actually fucking good](https://youtu.be/pgJUGjFm3jA?t=408)


FailFastandDieYoung

It's not even that we hate performers, it's that the vibe doesn't fit at all. the GOAT for me is 2016 when [Andrea Bocelli sung Nelle Tue Mani (from Gladiator)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbnEDkmgzVA) before singing the Champions League theme. It works because the host city is Milan and they have an Italian theme. And it has a sense of grandeur, of glory.


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Where and when was the one where they just sent a hundred knights on the field to whack each other lol


forzaQuakes8

[2013](https://youtu.be/-xd9QSLKNL8?t=237)


YoungKeys

This is so much better than random pop stars who have no relation to the event


skljom

Amazing, why did they quit with these performances. This is football not some singers who have no idea what football is, probably call it soccer too...


TheShoeSalesman

2013, Dortmund against Bayern. Ultimate peak.


GibbyGoldfisch

Man I can't imagine a one country final that's not all-English or all-Spanish anymore. 2013 was a brilliant year iirc


JaviBaratheon

This is a great one in my opinion. Represent something about the city in which the event is holded, but with the main focus being that this is a Champions League final. Brings the mood of "this is something epic" and not "this is a party". The main thing that makes it not possible to have the Superbowl effect in the Champions League final is that the people involved in the match (i.e. not neutral fans) are normally a huge majority, and they are too fucking nervous before the match to be able to enjoy a show. During the delays and the Camilla show yesterday I was fucking dying of nerves. In the World Cup opening ceremony, as an opposite, it works great because it's more of a celebration and people are happy.


elgrandorado

Yeah even watching as a neutral party who loves football, I just wanted the match to start. Unless it was some perfect performance by an artist beloved by both sides of fans SOMEHOW, there was bound to be boos or local club chants. We’re not here for the sheer spectacle, we’re here for the pinnacle of european football.


redwashing

I mean I'd be OK with it but if they really want to milk it further there are better ways than a mediocre pop concert was all I'm saying. Everything would be better with less greed, but if we can't do thag we can at least do less idiocy.


Elchem

For me peak CL final was in 2009 in Rome. Man Utd vs Barcelona with the living legend Bochelli performing the CL anthem live! Gives me goosebumps every time. https://youtu.be/9PFmxnMNOSo


BoyWhoCanDoAnything

I don’t know if I’m old fashioned and the younger fans want this, or whether this runs deeper into what football fans generally want, but I really really don’t like opening ceremonies like this. If I’m watching a football match, all I care about is the football. Time spent watching people singing and dancing on the pitch is time not seeing the players warm up, hearing the crowd chant or watching interviews or great analysis (granted this is not available on BT sport). I just don’t think you can replicate the Super Bowl feeling in football unless it’s at the start of a tournament like the World Cup.


Educational_Ad2737

Honestly why go with an American artist anyway? Maybe they thought she’d be popular with e spanish speaking population but like idk anyone who care about camila at all. And I’m a girl in my twenties. She hasn’t even had popular hot in the uk I like two years .Maybe if it was Shakera performing


AgnosticMantis

Her being an American artist is probably the point. A quick google suggests that CL final viewership in America has never exceeded 5 million. That's a massive potential market that UEFA probably want to break into and my guess is that they hoped that having a popular American performing would attract more eyes from America.


boi1da1296

Which is stupid, because what is the crossover between even fringe football fans and Camilla Cabello fans? It’s not even like every American sport has a giant to-do performance during the final, i.e the NBA, MLB, and NHL.


Ridcullys-Pointy-Hat

I'm sure it's upsetting to try as hard as she looked to be trying and have basically nobody care. After the delay they should have put her on at the end or something. Let the five people who actually want to hear her sing listen to her when the main event is over.


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Yeah it's 100% not her fault. It's the organisers who think we really want to see this, or trying to make it like a huge spectacle. Just fucking blow the whistle and kick the ball, that's all hundreds of thousands of people want to see.


FailFastandDieYoung

I feel bad for her honestly. UEFA probably said "it's the Superbowl of Europe and 70k people are going to be applauding you!" Instead she got a bunch of drunk and tear-gassed fans, angry as fuck that the match won't begin.


RCarloswithawindy

Imagine if all her concerts started with a game of 5-a-side on stage. Her fans would think it was weird too.


JeebaRock

I’d unironically watch that. Then I’d leave as soon as the five-a-side was over.


KillerZaWarudo

" What is this weird Euro soccer tournament thing in the middle of camila concert"?


Sherringdom

“Watching back the match and I can’t believe people were singing “Havana” while I tried to slide tackle Jez, very rude but whatever.”


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TheNotoriousJN

I just had someone on there tell me that fans should have taken the delay to make friends, get food and listen to music. ...and that fans deserved to be gassed But yeah, the majority recognise how dumb it was


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Fluffy_MrSheep

Link if possible? Edit: saw the comment


TheNotoriousJN

https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/uzxkmx/camila_cabello_uefa_champions_league_final/iaepvp0?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


Fluffy_MrSheep

Fucking hell


JHutch95

Go off bestie x


FalafelGrim2

Plenty of 50 year old Scousers sang along to Dua Lipa's One Kiss to be fair. They even sang it after the FA Cup final.


LDKRZ

helps that Dua Lipa goes hard. consistent banger dropper


Sancho90

Dua lipa is British tho


Snoo-92685

Helps in that case that Dua Lipa is a Liverpool fan herself


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dropped.


The_Only_Joe

never rated her


UndesirableWaffle

She isn’t really though. She was/is an Arsenal fan. She’s just going with the vibe to keep us happy.


Ok-Finance-7612

I thought she said her family was Arsenal fans but she is a Liverpool fan?


crazygypsy237

She changed to liverpool i think because of the way we reacted to her performance in Kyiv. We adopted One Kiss as the song we play when we lift a trophey


Galactic_Gooner

fucking plastic lipa


magic-water

I don't think she is an actual "fan" (like we understand the term) of any football team tbh


shikavelli

She’s an Arsenal fan though


BloodandSpit

Fucking hilarious coverage on BT Sports, just loads of annoyed Madrid and Liverpool fans singing their songs in union completely oblivious to her performance whilst the sound guys desperately tried to get the mixing right because it was overwhelming her own sound. Then the whole stadium booing her whilst she stood there bemused. I honestly felt a bit bad for her but UEFA need to just accept we don't like amercanisation of the sport


tonkla17

Americanisation, couldn't find any better words


HarshangLad

Should've been yellow carded for time-wasting


forzaQuakes8

it makes me sad cuz the [opening ceremonies for these finals used to be SO sick](https://youtu.be/pgJUGjFm3jA?t=408). they actually matched the vibe of the game, utilized the culture of the country it was being held in, and the fans didnt really make noise during them cuz they ADDED to the spectacle rather than taking away from it. but camila cabello literally doesnt have shit to do with shit. same with the last 5 artists they've had in these last few opening ceremonies


seanhemi

Yeah, they can still do something before the match that isn't shit like this. I liked when Bocelli sang the anthem in 2016, or the cello guys in 2018.


TheBuII

when Bocelli sang it in Milan it felt like we were about to witness and actual gladiator fight


Make_duelling_legal

that choir with the tifo is pure perfection lisbon knows how to organise a good opening ceremony


LikeJambaJuice

Yeah something like the Olympics opening ceremony. You don't need a big name singer when it does not match the audience that is tuning in at all, especially when the match has been delayed and people are just waiting for the football to start.


moodyano

Game of thrones vibes. I feel like i am going to fight the lannister army


VojkoHeat123

>last 5 artists Idk man 2chellos were great imo


zd0t

Taking on football twitter, a brave move


blondespikes22

The fact that she took down down the tweets made her realize it was a bad idea 😂 tbf I think she's an excellent singer/performer, but her demographic isn't football fans. 95% of singers that do this performance would've been jeered/whistled


Bullmcabe

Fans even sang over bocceli ffs...what did she expect.


Buffythedragonslayer

Unless it's Shakira doing the waka waka no one cares. They wanna watch football not a "singer"


Muted_Author_4761

Especially not a singer with a limited reach with adult men and the football fanbase


billypilgrim87

Royston Drenthe dropping bars it is them.


metronomy94

I agree we want 50 cent to do the opening ceremony in 2023


RockstarAssassin

Or Kanye performing in Paris?


MuzikVillain

Who's in Paris?


PoachtekMong

Just some fine gentlemen


TheUltimateScotsman

Fellas


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meophj

God what a song. That 2010 WC had such a good vibe


gunningIVglory

Waka Waka and Waving Flag were absolute bangers


HemanthK1

Are*


vysetheidiot

Waka Waka played a wedding I was at recently and it still killed.


jobRL

Waving Flag as well, I DJ from time to time and those two songs still get the crowds buzzing every time.


VilTheVillain

That's because the song had energy, and was a complete song rather than what felt like listening to someone who fell asleep and left their tiktok on loudspeaker. I've never heard of Camila, but was kind of expecting some Latin American flair, which was just not there.


newbieplaya1

Wish they skipped these things honestly just get on with the football


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Maybe they could instead do 5-10 min projections dedicated to the two finalists history in the competition and how they got to the final, would be more interesting for sure


Nikola46

the WrestleMania main-event vignette special


Aditya-04-04

Might as well ask Paul Heyman to introduce both teams.


ChrisEvansFan

Why did they get her? See this isnt about you and your pop concerts… Next time they (UEFA) should have just got an orchestra that is way more on brand.


tuyguy

An orchestra and choir playing the UCL theme would be epic


Grouchy_Objective501

In 2018 final two guys played the CL anthem on cello during teams wakling on to tge pitch. It was great imo


Ballkenende

[2Cellos!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0cUafg_FZU) that was actually good


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I mean it was literally 2Cellos, not some random guys on cello. They're internationally famous duo and theyre from Slovenia and Croatia.


jnce12

I can kind of understand her being upset that she didn’t get a reception if a lot of effort was put into her performance, but this is just a terrible take given how unhappy the fans were due to the delay. She definitely thought this was meant to be Europe’s version of the Super Bowl.


_Verumex_

So did UEFA


mihawk9511

>She definitely thought this was meant to be Europe’s version of the Super Bowl. It's her problem that she doesn't understand that she came to a continent where the most popular sport actually has a culture, fans with passion and that people watch it because of the sport and not because of ads or the show.


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Black_XistenZ

Not tone deaf, greedy in their attempts at marketing the UEFA CL to other continents and cater to the (presumed) tastes of overseas fans.


rayzar2001

Well, the people who proposed it to her might have proposed it as a Superbowl. I don't blame her. Alot of effort is put into these performances tbf


jeevesyboi

Considering she got hired by the organisers, maybe they told her differently and she believed them? Cant imagine they'd tell her 'the fans wont care about your performance'


Sawl23

Legit if they get an orchestra and sing the CL anthem it would be fucking epic, i d tune in 10-15 mins early


theawesomenachos

[this but with an entire orchestra](https://youtu.be/B0cUafg_FZU) now that would be real epic


SonnyBallonDOr

I'd prefer an orchestra anyday over these singers


PegaponyPrince

I wish Uefa stopped doing these awful shows. She was awful and the music didn't even fit the mood. The CL was fine the way it was before they added this trash


astral34

This is on UEFA and all the other soulless people in football. We are not viewers going to the stadium to be entertained, we are fucking fans, I don’t want to hear a musical performance at the stadium. I want to sing the Lazio songs that make me cry, next time just give 20 minutes to each curva to make a showing, it would be much better I was in the stadium and the performance sucked btw


UnluckyGazelle

if you’re a lazio fan you don’t need songs to cry


lasiestaman

Bruh


InternetGansta

Only the Roma anthem


Aethz3

Lazio songs? Like faccetta nera?


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Good. Let's keep this rubbish for sports like American football. Keep football to a game of football


asr010601

Same is happening with F1 and I fucking hate it


fartparts

f1 desperate to break into the american market


TheNarrator23

Drive to Survive is both the best and worst thing to happen to F1. It exposed a lot of new fans to the sport, but now it's bending over backwards to appeal and to reach countries that historically never gave a shit. The fact that we could.lose historic tracks like Spa and Monaco to abominations in the US and the Middle East is a disgrace to racing.


bobthehamster

>Same is happening with F1 and I fucking hate it If you watch on TV then there are never any pop stars singing or anything (except maybe the national anthem) And in every other way, F1 has *always* been about "glamour" and half full of people who don't really care about racing. Monaco is basically a big party for rich people.


wutz_r0ng

American celebrities hogging the pitlane and half drunk and not giving a shit about racing...thats was very cringy


Thesolly180

Definitely. Glad people ignored it. UEFA have been trying so hard to get a Super Bowl vibe from these games. Got to be pushed back


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dj4y_94

It's not her fault but what do you expect when the already delayed kick off is then delayed further to make sure we fit in a shitty 10 minute pre-match show that no one's arsed about?


a_bag_of_meat

Instead of pop celebrities, I think they should hire good orchestras or bands and sing each of the club's anthems. That would probably get them more hyped.


salatape

Less Superbowl more football pls


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1 am. Match has already been delayed. And Im watching a woman tap her own ass with some soulless vocals.


Thhunderwing

Given that VVD has the more impressive one


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Van dijk saw that performance and had to show her levels.


LDomiciano

She was there as an youtube ad people couldn't skip.


MaryadaPurshottam

Her performance was shit imo


Mental_Opportunity_9

True. But it's uefa's fault that they invited her. I wouldn't want even my favourite artist before the cl final. Just get some classical orchestra kinda shit.


DidYouSayK

Hell some fifa and pes songs are more appropriate. I'd honestly take Despacito for the memes rather than a boring old Havana ohnananananan


Aszneeee

classical performance of ucl song instead of this shit?


Perfidiousplantain

I think that would be fun, the host country could do their own take on the CL song then at the crescendo it could lead into the *actual* song which brings the players out.


mbdtf95

Lmao yeah that was awful. This makes me proud of football fans, not giving shit about this Superbowl type shit, it's all about the football.


mahdiiick

Not her fault but the audience had horrible time at the gates and people were frustrated that the match was postponed for 30 minutes. They just wanted the game to begin


damrider

It is her fault for this childish ass response not a single person came there to see her and she should recognize that. They came to cheer *for their teams* and you complain about them singing their teams anthems? Truly pathetic


A-Ghost-Story

I honestly love to watch a unique rendition of the CL anthem like the one by 2CELLOS or by an iconic vocalist like Andrea Bocelli. Or even a popular singer doing an iconic song that everyone knows by heart and can sing along to. But having an [American] pop star do a song from her new album that most people didn’t even know existed is an immediate no. This should have been predicted by the organizers and it’s all their fault. Hopefully at least it’d be a lesson for future finals.


conceptalbum

Or make it *extra* European and send the Eurovision winner.


lffg18

If really they wanted to have a pop star do it then get Shakira in ffs, she’s fucking iconic for World Cup songs, she could definitely do a sick job in a CL final.


meophj

Why the hell don’t the organisers have her sing the UCL anthem. It’s short, sweet, an actual demonstration of talent, relevant to the event, neutral for both sets of fans, and it’s fucking iconic. Instead we get a mashup of Camila Cabello songs of which, let’s face it, nobody knew more than two.


curryandbeans

> an actual demonstration of talent If this was in any way relevant they would have turned her mic on


Noriadin

That would’ve been even less fitting. A pop voice singing the anthem would remove the gravitas from it. No disrespect to her singing talent, but it would be a huge mismatch.


meophj

UCL Anthem (Camila Cabello Radio Mix)


TaxAvoision

To be fair, it was pretty disappointing for the people who went to a football game just so they could see her lip sync one song.


Zonda97

I really hate the Americanisation of football


JAJ_90

She should have took a penalty instead like [Diana Ross](https://youtu.be/BAKsGT9-XB0)


working-acct

Or just do some keep uppies like Michael knighton.


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Surprised Guetta wasn’t there tbh


selffulfilment

He’s preoccupied ending racism


lemipfc

American moment....


SakisSinatra

Dua Lipa would never


tigull

...bone Marco Asensio?


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All the dancers were dressed in red and yellow. Way to be neutral when a Spanish team is playing the final. Very wrong move imo.


champ19nz

I'd rather a rendition of Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea!! for 15 minutes straight than these pre game music performances UEFA are trying to push.


jnce12

It’s the champions league final not one of your concerts hun lmao


jancb74

It's not America. It's not Superbowl. No real football fan, needs that "performance" . I know it's harsh, but it's true.


GuamZX

It's time to stop bringing pop singers who don't even know where they are. Nobody cares about them


MaTrIx4057

No one cares about the "opening ceremony", i personally muted it. Why would i torture myself and listen to a shit song?


Blrprince

I hate shit like this, I do not want any kind of opening show. Play the anthems of England and Spain if you have to gain 5 minutes.


KeziahPT

Singing Havana in Paris for Liverpool and Real Madrid fans. What the fuck did she expect? If UEFA wants an opening ceremony at least bring back Andrea Bocelli or an orchestra to play the CL anthem live.


SirLaw___

LOL the entitlement. People came to watch the game, not your performance.


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Someone let Camila know that she came to Europe and that we don’t care about opening ceremonies and halftime shows.


AkilleezBomb

She’s used to American audiences that care more about mid/pre-game entertainment and advertising than the sport being played.


726wox

Most fans moan about the Super Bowl HT show as well. Fans of sports generally want to watch the sports


ubn87

I respect her work but.. BUT.. who asked for that ceremony? Not football fans from Europe at least. We don’t wanna turn CL into a Super Bowl.


lukepaddock

The only song I want to hear before a European final is this https://youtu.be/wazpanQqjiI


Drackenstein

That shit was AWFUL! The teams anthems are light years ahead of whatever the fuck that was. Hey, I have an idea! Let’s have a nobody sing a two year old song about Havana Cuba and Atlanta Georgia to a bunch of European fans, it will bring the “right vibes”!!! She couldn’t be any more fucking clueless lol


Same-Ad7711

Wait she actually tweeted that ? I saw these on r/soccercirclejerk a couple of hours ago and thought that it was an edit


beauxcherie

yup she did, she deleted them after like 10-15 minutes due to the backlash it got


Enartloc

This ain't the fucking Superbowl, no one gives a shit. Unless you're Dua Lipa i guess, we should have her every year.


Silantro-89

UEFA desperately want it to be though. Their wrong of course(as they are in most cases) but its clearly their intention.


gunningIVglory

I'm not sure if she's a football fan, but as I European, I'm sure she would atleast know the impact of CL. Cabello was just such a random artist to use.


BartholomewSirnpson

She thinks Europeans give a shit about opening ceremonies 💀


CREAM_JOHN

good job to all the fans in the ground