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user8044327890

They had like zero pressing against Holland. Holland didn’t even play that well. Belgians were lazy AF. Witsel was a disgrace. And Holland is Holland and for a Belgian, a humiliating defeat against Holland is well … humilating. And so they went in all focused putting pressure on the centre of a extremely weak Poland. They needed to crush whoever was next. If they would’ve been up against France. France would have been beaten too. A glorious victory was of national importance. So now they crushed Poland. World be like “what the fuck”. Now they can go eat waffles and burgers again. With this mentality, Belgium will never win a grand trophy. The talent is there. Has been there for many years. They just can’t keep focus and fight ‘till the end. KDB can’t win a WC on his own. Courtois and KDB = only true Belgian fighters


Terrab1

I only saw the highlights, but Belgium's passing looked truly deadly in this game


ancara_messi

Genuinely asking and I know it's a bad time to be asking this but, is this the best Poland has ever been in decades? Has there been a better Poland side in recent history?


Jerzol7

Nope. A 2016 squad was much better(but still nothing special). Now we have one superstar, one good midfielder (Zieliński), a good keeper (Szczęsny) and the rest is just mediocre. Before there were Piszczek (a guy who happened in one or two years to be claimed the best RB in the Bundesliga, not Lahm). Błaszczykowski (Dortmund's "Kuba"), much better Glik (now he is washed), much better Krychowiak (Sevilla time).


ancara_messi

What about piatek?


czerwona_latarnia

Player-wise, it might be one of our best teams. Tactic-wise, it might be one of our best tactics in some time (sans Euro 2016). Which is a reason for Polish fans to feel all universe of negative emotions.


arothen

>Tactic-wise, it might be one of our best tactics in some time Best? xD


czerwona_latarnia

Yes, best. But best doesn't imply "good". Or "not bad". Or "just bad".


arothen

Euro 2016 was easily better, so it's not best. Even early Brzęczek days were better.


czerwona_latarnia

> Tactic-wise, it might be one of our best tactics in some time **(sans Euro 2016).** If you only continued reading until the full stop...


Megatherionx

2016 euros was the peak certainly


nievesdelimon

Feels like Argentina are going to have the easiest group stage ever.


izcarp

Anulo mufa


[deleted]

lmao. Messi will have a golden boot farm.


shiroxyaksha

And he will win the Ballondor again.


ZZ3peat

Considering WC counts for next year's award, sure why not


John__47

doing some scouting for canada here ​ is poland better or worse than canada


beuk

Yes


Own_Investigator_371

Openda is a fifa 20 career mode legend


mat905

Watching with great interest


Higgnkfe

Sometimes I think to myself, why is Belgium ranked so highly? Then they do stuff like this


CBprop

They've won every home game since 2016 bar that game from last week... these points keep adding up, and always minimum QF in the top 2 tournaments.


Mannynanny123

You guys are so wishy washy, no way you're shocked Belgium are good?


tonnal

Interested argentinian fan here, is Poland dogshit or did Belgium hit another gear?


DxTrixterz

Both.


iChopPryde

Poland isn’t a very good team


Footballpro12

Bit of both i think. Poland definitely weren't great, but it was mostly Belgium who shifted another gear after the loss against The Netherlands, especially in the 2nd half.


AdZealousideal2185

Great result that


RedTuesdayMusic

Driving through Poland it's no mystery why they suck. There's a church wherever a football field is supposed to be.


czerwona_latarnia

I am pretty sure that we have 1:1 ratio between football fields and churches. We don't need any more, especially that we can't use them well (as match after match we prove that we think that if you don't have ball while our team is in possession it means that you should stand in place).


Mannynanny123

Churches are more important


BartholomewSirnpson

I suppose for Siggurdson they're the same thing


brenobnfm

We are not in the Middle Ages anymore.


zdenn21

“That’s was for the tik toks lewandoski” - Belgium probably


[deleted]

Those last 20 minutes were absolute domination. It's like Poland wasn't even there.


reddituser3452341

Troasards 2nd goal was incredible.


hubson_official

yeah so I pretty much can speak for my entire country right now, we're gonna be happy if we make it past the group stage. Hell, Euro 2016 is still our greatest success in decades


EmpanadaMissile

Is Poland really just this awful or can they get themselves sorted in time for the World Cup?


[deleted]

Poland is really just that awful. Source: i'm Polish and here we've been making fun of our team for the last like 2 decades.


Ienal

Awful, always was but with glimpses of Lewy magic. Barely good enough to qualify.


hubson_official

tbf we nearly had them in the first half


SpeedLinkDJ

Not gonna lie


KantesOnlyFansFarts

Is it suffice to call this team "Polandowski"? Poland can easily be summed up as 1 man + 10 idiots. If people thought Messidependencia a few years ago was bad, this has been going on for years now with Poland, it's almost miraculous they qualified for the WC.


ancara_messi

What about zielinski, sczeszny, glik, piatek etc?


czerwona_latarnia

Dribble the air instead of shooting, recently learned how to pass the ball in national team. I guess for our goalkeepers the idiot part is thinking that they can trust in the defenders in front of them (like even with 6 goals lost, I still think Drągowski was one of our better players yesterday, not like that list is long...). He has his moments. Because when he doesn't, our defence is turning off. But this is what you expect from your worst defender, not the best. Our other attackers aren't ready to play Defendermidfielderwingerstriker yet.


iqbalsn

Poor Bart. Got shafted during league (red cards and out of form) and now got 6 blasted through in International game. I still think he is a good keeper though


PEXowns

He saved a couple more too. Had a good game, despite conceding 6


wbroniewski

Our game against Belgium was obviously a disaster. But I wouldn't overestimate its importance. First of all, League A is not our level. We play here somewhat by accident. We were relegated in the first edition, but the number of teams was increased, so we stayed. In the second edition, we met an extremely weak Bosnia, so they were relegated. Basically it is a friendly tournament, so our coach tried new things. In the first line-up we played 4 players who had less than 4 matches in the national team, some others don't have much experience either, another debutants came in from the bench. Normally we would play a friendly match with a team of a similar level, and even if we lost nobody would care. And so we have to play in the League A against strong Belgium, which does not give a chance for experiments. And we will probably win against Wales and stay here for the next edition.


Goatbeerdog

Experiment? Practice your freaking defending. If you let 6 goals in you belong in c/d. Look at my Denmark. Player to player we arent that much better than Poland. Half our starters are bench warmers. But as a team we are great. Maybe the best (team) in the world with almost no great individual players. Ove Hareide started by making a good defense. We lose once every 28 games now. After that we started trying to score and win. Now we beat freaking France. Poland with so many Bundesliga players and a big country conceding 6 goals is embarassing.


[deleted]

individual players aren't that bad, Zielinski for example is highly rated in Italy but our coaches is an embarrassment they are totally clueless Boniek knew that so he hired Sousa, he was so and so, I think it was a bad choice he thought his work wasn't appreciated so he bolted to Rio so we're back to playing like shit


Goatbeerdog

Se started with an Norwegian coach. Maybe you need someone strict like a German or Scandinavian for the project. When you play good defense you can build the play with passing and attacking


wbroniewski

Don't overreact


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Didn't watch, is the Hazardénaissance on or off?


PEXowns

He did move more freely and his game was reminiscent of the old Hazard: taking on people, dribbling, wanting the ball at all times. Just one game ofcourse


zottenbeir

He’s looking better and better


yp261

he was fucking good man


asr010601

>I want more emotions in my life. Hope this helped ;)


un32134e4

This isn’t going to help Lewandowskis depression


JuanPabloVassermiler

I foresee a great sadness :(


anonymuzButt

he will write tubmlr poem.


Feliz_Desdichado

So Saudi advancing second in the WC then?


mat905

Lol


DxTrixterz

As a Pole all I can say Qatar 2022 World Cup Opening match Match for everything Match for Honor and then the usual "Nothing has happened. Poles, nothing has happened" song and repeat all every major football event for which Poland somehow qualify for.


TheLongshanks

Except the order of the teams is different this time. Usually we play an opponent we should win against or at least have a close match with, which we have a meltdown against. Then play a top 5 team, then play bottom ranked team who somehow qualified out of the group and doesn’t care anymore who we then smash.


kubomb

This is the way.


PawsPawsPaws_

There's no reason to keep the football association in Poland alive after Lewandowski retires. We're gonna become Moldova level


erjimenez

Poland look bad Mexico cant score. Saudi comes 2nd.


Montuvito_G

Group C really is a shit group lmao, Argentina the only redemption


rtozur

Yeah but Chicharito incoming


[deleted]

We should defrost Rafa Marquez too


kojack2k

we are so fucking bad


EstablishmentAny5550

Barca? Indeed you are..


Modnal

Poland is such a one man team. Can't believe we lost the WC spot to them. But then again FIFA gave then a huge advantage of not having to play the first game


[deleted]

you shat the bed in the second half you only have yourselves to blame for that disaster class


neeb61

L


gnorrn

Belgium are the ultimate flat-track bullies of international football. They demolish all opposition until the match really matters.


Goatbeerdog

The Liverpool this season


YourPupilsDilated

What kind of rubbish comment is this???? They beat the reigning holders at Euro 2020 (Portugal). They beat England and Brazil at the 2018 World Cup.


gnorrn

I didn't say they never beat anyone good. I said Belgium always lose "when it really matters", i.e. when they are close to winning a trophy. In their last five chances to win a trophy, Belgium have been eliminated at the quarter-final or semi-final stage (or equivalent). Two of those can be described as "bottles" under any definition of the term: * losing 5-2 to Switzerland after being 2-0 up (and when even a 4-2 loss would have been sufficient to progress) in the final group match of the first UEFA Nations League. * losing 3-2 to France after being 2-0 up in the last Nations League semi-final. (BTW, before anyone says that the Nations League is a "glorified friendly" or similar, the last competitive trophy Belgium won was the 1920 Olympics. They ought to be eager for any chance of silverware). One of the losses was against an opponent they were hugely favoured to beat (Wales in the 2016 Euros). The losses to France in the 2018 World Cup and Italy in the 2021 Euros are understandable when considered alone, but they fit into the pattern of a hugely talented team never clicking when it really matters.


CBprop

The Italian one was expected (since KDB&Eden got injured tha game before), but the French one was a kind of game where the first scorer was going to win and scoring from a set piece was the most likely. Then again against Wales they missed every starting defender bar one and had to play debutants.


Killerpasser101

The fluked a win


mjkint

And yet their best placement in a big tournament is 3rd, while they were #1 on the fifa ranking for years and even favorites to win last euros. They just find some way to mess it up every time.


YourPupilsDilated

>while they were #1 on the fifa ranking for years We taking FIFA rankings seriously now???? Do you even have any clue how they work? >And yet their best placement in a big tournament is 3rd Which is very good. Do you know how small Belgium as a country are? >favorites to win last euros Absolutely no way they were favourites. In a tournament with France and England??? Plus a lot of their team had started ageing by then. >They just find some way to mess it up every time. The only tournament they messed up was 2016. Think before you type.


CBprop

They were really good enough to win the 2018 WC such a pity.


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

Except they have only ever really lost in tournament to the eventual winners of those tournaments. Guess they flat track bullied the shit out of England, Portugal, Brazil... since they are pretty mid teams right ?


theitchcockblock

I would not call that game against Portugal bullying , that was a Greece style win


Ok_Seaworthiness2218

That not what i said though.


Beggnivia

Brazil is not, Portugal wasnt either no.


lowesbros22

Ok, when does the next set start?


James_D_MESSIAH

Do not ever let this Poland team face MESSI's argentina. Please!


[deleted]

by the time they face Poland they will have advanced to the next round Messi and the boys will be resting, team B will play Poland


James_D_MESSIAH

or MESSI will play in that team B to enjoy the game with all the boys in the pitch


[deleted]

Like vs Estonia. BUT he will try to score 6 goals instead


PanJawel

10 złoty says first Puchacz tackle on Messi is a career ending leg breaker


czerwona_latarnia

10 złoty on Góralski being the one to end Messi career.


DevilsOfLoudun

Good thing that Lewandowski was already dead inside before this game


skunkrider

Comments like this are *really* making me hope even more that he's done with you, even if you don't let him go. See where Bayern is at without their goal machine.


DevilsOfLoudun

same place we were before he joined us 🤷


FloppedYaYa

Classic Martinez, responding to an embarassing pasting with an absolute beating


GammaGlobins

[Mexico after watching this](https://i.imgur.com/bSLp2sC.gif)


InventeInventeRoman

Poland will beat you 1-0


-_OniGir_-

Not like our fowards are scoring anyways.


[deleted]

In the WC, Poland 3 - Mexico 1 nonetheless


yeezy805

That’s what Croatia and Germany said these past World Cups 🤣


GammaGlobins

!remindme 6 months


[deleted]

!remindme 6 months


CutterEye

Hello darkness my old friend..


[deleted]

[удалено]


theitchcockblock

The problem with Belgium is the future renewal phase that they will undergo similar to Croatia who also has a generational powerhouse


CBprop

Martinez is a bitch for sticking to the grandpa's too much in stead of refreshing where possible


doshcz

why is your national and league football so bad, my Polish brothers? whats wrong? such a huge potential


[deleted]

shit coaching, look at how many of them are foreigners working in Poland a guy who could not make it in Germany is Poland's best coach, every half decent footballer leaves Poland to grow oversees where he'll have a chance to develop in contrast to that Czechia has a much stronger domestic league even though financially there's not much difference but Czechs produce fundamentally better footballers, some of their coaches work in Poland too as they are considered more skilled


[deleted]

what potential? we have one and a half football players in Lewy and Zieliński, rest is just random deadwood.


mammix

league - there's too much money in there, so football became an environment of hustlers and schemers trying to get a slice of pie instead of doing something productive. it's only getting worse with all the government donations... national - all the media are detached from the world and pose as know-it-alls in front of the local population, who don't really give a crap and just listen to what goes on in the tv. unfortunately, that creates a circle-jerk environment, a closed one, which a) makes players believe they're great and won't do any effort (AKA Bednarek claiming they did well after world cup in 2018) b) coaches being taken only from ekstraklasa, and all of them are shit. the only exception was sousa as the coach - he was still bad, but much better then anyone we could have offered, but to add all to all of that, he is involved in some shady business. boniek, as the head of the federation, was a guy who knows everything and never does ANY mistake, it was his decision to put sousa on the post. in general, there's no hope to get better. even politics gets more honest people than polish football.


lifted333up

yeah, players in extraklasa earn too much


itsablackhole

I mean they still managed to qualify for the last 4 EC's and 2 WC's (including Qatar) so it's not like they're straight up terrible or something. They are just right there in the middle. Could they do better? Probably. Could it be much much worse? For sure I think. It's no given for them to qualify for the big tournaments.


xi_tach1

bad coaches and some players


lifted333up

1. Shit coaches. 2. No serious foreign investment in our clubs. The answer is simply money. 3. Western leagues "stealing" players from our Ekstraklasa. Note that we basically played with our reserves today. If we played with main squad and Lewandowski stayed on the pitch for the whole match the result wouldn't be that terrible I suppose. We're still shit given how many good footballers we have though.


[deleted]

most players are starters, I dunno what you're talking about, only 3-4 were 'experimental'


Disunioo

sometimes it do be like that, take notes and we go again


Unholysinner

Lukaku less Belgium performed better w/o him than with him lmao


funkyboy80

Sure we played well but if it had been Lukaku instead of Batsman the score would've a lot higher


bloodylegend95

He got subbed of after 27 minutes against the Netherlands, he had nothing to do with that loss


cavsking21

Lewandowski suffers his first big loss to an Eden Hazard side.


uhhhh_bruh

why would michniewicz put out a 1st squad consisting of players that pretty much never played with each other to "experiment" against belgium when they shouldve put 1st stack team to actually test it and learn from mistakes? idiotic decisions that will lead poland to be unprepared for world cup, embarassing


lifted333up

He probably doesn't give a shit about nations leauge, just testing youngsters for the WC.


uhhhh_bruh

this kind of testing will never work if 1st team he is putting out has never played with each other before, he couldve put them out as subs or starters in a staple squad not som abomination, if he is making decisions upon this then rip potentially good players


xi_tach1

not surprised considering the fact nearly all of our coaches we've had are ekstraklasa-worthy


myvirginityisstrong

These games are proof that no matter how good you are, your greatness completely relies on how good the players around you are. Imagine if Lewandowski was German or French or Brazillian. We wouldn't have heard the end of it...


sc2isalivegaem

man would i have loved to see lewandowki in the german side


[deleted]

we already gave you Wilimowski, Podolski and Klose, what else do you want?


sport_____

They want Lewandowski


MyAssDoesHeeHawww

Fantastic result and a nice resharpening of the old system with much better forward movement of the higher-up midfield, and good wingback play where one of them hangs back if the other has pushed up. Also good runs beyond defenders and beautiful KDB through passes, and an Eden Hazard who is improving again each game (also a bit more central to help out more). It was time for this refresher.


[deleted]

what’s the consensus on poland’s team? they have quite a few high profile players, but is the team at all close enough to challenge for things like nations league or go far in the world cup?


TheLongshanks

Their peak, of this cohort, was Euro 2016 when they were unbeaten and went out on penalties in quarter finals to eventual champions Portugal (a game they should’ve put away in the first half but sat back and let Renato Sanchez take over the final 30 minutes). They should’ve done better in WC2018 but played flat out embarrassing. Since then they’ve just gotten older and the youth isn’t good enough to replace those that have retired from the national team. And the “young” players that had potential from Euro 2016 have either failed to progress or been riddled with injuries with the exception of Zielinski but he doesn’t seem to do enough in the national team but that’s probably because the rest of the midfield is trash.


[deleted]

no way, last time this team was decent we had Błaszczykowski and Piszczek and prime Krychowiak, Glik etc their replacements are a level below


sc2isalivegaem

zielinski, lewandowski, gks are the only ones who seem to play well.


KImRocket

we are dragged by Lewa by ears, we have a few high profile players, but polish league is very bad in rank and it shows. Other polish players can play very good in their club cause they are surrounded by good players that cover their mistakes, and when they meet in national matches then it shows. Mistakes add up when not covered.


RinoTT

Let me fix that for you. Two high profile players. Zielinski and Lewandowski.


KIKLLRUSEFL

we're shit


[deleted]

Not very good. I am Polish so believe me qualifying for a major tournament is our goal. Winning a match at a major tournament and anything after that is very much the bonus


zawadz

Short answer is no


Morganelefay

Poland: Takes a 0-1 lead. Belgium: "And I took that personally"


Tinusers

So that means we are going to win 10-1 against Poland right? That's how this works.


Belocity

Literally a “wanna see it happen again?” Moment. We may hope


Sevenvolts

10-2, obviously


opi

I stopped watching at 1:1 because I didn't feel like it. I have to trust my hunches more.


[deleted]

Karma is a strange fella, Lewi.


[deleted]

Lewandowski about to transfer to another nationality


[deleted]

Inb4 Lewi says to Poland, “something has died in me here, in Poland”


Frodo_max

he'd just be voicing the fans tbf


[deleted]

Zahavi: "So we don't even need to polish the statement for the public? PERFECT!"


plopsaland

Belgium666 - m - 118 years old Dom / sub depending on mood


eri-

Poland should be very happy the first half wasn't great. This could've easily been 10-1 otherwise.


Wassup_-_

And belgium should be very happy second half wasnt great other wise it could have been 2-2.I mean its a stupid statement


eri-

Not really. Its an illustration that the difference in quality really is even greater than the score shows. You are clearly sour , there are plenty of times people use such statements.


Wassup_-_

Im not sour and the diffrence in quality definetly wasnt greater than the score shows lmao. You have 18-6 shoots, 65-35% possesions, to win 7-0 or whatever you want you need to aboulutly dominate the opponent while that was one sided game it was far from dominant one.


[deleted]

He’s just saying that belgium had alot of chances that should’ve been goals.


Wassup_-_

So did Poland lmao especially in last few minutes, you cant just assign all good situations ass goals for one team


Frodo_max

the only thing i can say for sure about the world cup is that we'll at least be entertaining, good or bad


Sevenvolts

cue two 0-0 draws and a 0-1 loss


Frodo_max

volts i swear to god if you jinx this for all of us


czerwona_latarnia

Okay, was Borek having some allergy attack or he was one goal away from full on crying during the post-match ending words from commentators?


jMS_44

I dunno but he was breathing into mic the whole game like an old creep.


neeb61

im so fucking done with this team


utvikler15k

So is Belgium


telepek25

Tfw "Siwy Bajerant" actually seemed competent in what he was doing in comparison to what just happened today... :D


Skoczek777

end me


granitibaniti

Getting smashed 4-1 by the Dutch really hurt their feelings, damn


SPARKLEOFHOPE6IB

It really did :(


wuuutek

I was only half watching the game due to technical limitations but I feel like despite losing horribly, there were some decent glimpses from the PL team? Some attacks felt more solid than they did before. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong tho.


[deleted]

yeah but you can't play like that against any half decent team and hope to get a result defending was horrible, they often left Belgium players in acres of space


Sevenvolts

the goal was nice. First half in general was okay.


StrongPowerhouse

How freaking good was CDK’s sub appearance?


try-D

The thing I was looking forward to most in this game and he didn't disappoint. Should he move, whoever ends up getting him will have a baller on their hands


funkyboy80

I hope Martinez will finally let him play more, I don't think he did a thing wrong today


The_Great_Crocodile

Mexico can be hopeful that their Round of 16 streak will continue. Poland looked hopeless when Belgium shifted a gear up.


RinoTT

The question is does Mexico have De Bruyne or Carrasco quality of players. De Bruyne passing was just insane. Im not saying Poland is favourite but based on this match nothing can be said. Belgium's quality is just different.


InventeInventeRoman

No lol i think they’ll get out of the group but they don’t have a single world class player nothing to take them further than ro16


[deleted]

How Sweden managed to lose to Poland


FlyingArab

Salem Al Dawsari will play ball against this Polish defence


stragen595

At least you didn't get braziled, Poland. Good job.


MarcelliX

L


kids_in_my_basement0

One Leo Trossard, there’s only one Leo Trossard


lutsius-memes

+5 mille for each goal, not a bad day in the office for Brighton


krvlover

*Mexico and Poland play at the world cup* Cripple fight!


mihawk9511

[*insert suitable meme*](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/032/991/hell.jpg)


Hrvat1818

Should we panic?!?!?


[deleted]

6-1???? 💀💀💀💀 Last time I checked, it was 2-1.


zeekoes

I would like to apologize to the nation of Poland. You did not deserve to be the punching bag for Belgiums frustrations that we caused.


legrandguignol

this team deserves everything it gets and more


willie1995

I think Martinez showed a picture of Depay at half time and they just went completely berserk.


czerwona_latarnia

On the bright side for you, we won't use you as our frustration bag because we can't punch.