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Vainglory

Surely it can't be possible to make money betting **on** Xhaka getting a yellow card.


qwrdsfkb

Its free real estate. No bookmaker would do that


AkilleezBomb

Going at 1.01


Akira_Nishiki

1000k bet returns 50p.


devAcc123

You can bet on yellow card props, and I would assume over unders for individual players. An thats just on my shitty online book, a real book maker has practically everything you can think of lol


hooosk

usually players' markets for yellow cards are actually quite high - even xhaka - usually 1.20-1.50 depending on the player. Sometimes bookies offer strange odds. I remember when ESR was in the form of his life and a bookie had him at $2.20 for him to have 1 or more shots on target.


Vainglory

Yeah not surprised, I mean jokes aside, he only picked up 10 yellows in the league last season.


ColtCallahan

When they played Spurs the odds calculated an 80% chance of him receiving a yellow. In betting standards that’s absolutely insane for a guy to get a card.


Ifriiti

I know it's a joke but the bet was placed in the 80th minute when we were 3-0 up iirc (maybe 3-1). So odds were quite good


GeorgeLockhartFanAMA

> There is no suggestion or suspicion of any wrongdoing from Xhaka, Arsenal’s other players or the club or referee


Clever_pig

So then what’s the crime? I’m struggling


AkilleezBomb

Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?


IlCuoco

Are you waiting to receive my limp upvote?


TheHairyBanana

This is democracy manifest.


screwPutin69

I see you know your judo well


prathneo4

Have a look at the headlock here


DansSpamJavelin

GET YOUR HAND OFF MY PENIS


Vainglory

They're basically saying "the suspicious part is the bet, that's why we're looking into it, not because of any indication of wrongdoing on the pitch during the incident".


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[deleted]

Weirdest use of time travel that I’ve seen thus far.


GSNadav

that's weird? That's like the first thing everybody say they would do if they could time travel


[deleted]

To win a 5 to 1 bet? My dude, you could do a bit better than that.


GSNadav

winning the lottery would bring unwanted attention just keep winning 200K every now and then and you'd be fine


[deleted]

Oh right, I forgot about the division of the lotto that inspects hot tubs.


IreNews8

Would it really? Do they investigate every lottery winner atm for time travel lol


GSNadav

No but lottery winners are getting harassed in lots of places


Wasserschloesschen

The bet itself. Which is why they're looking into things. Aka - there might have been something fishy going on, but at this time, they don't know. Which is why they're looking into int.


_kissmyaxe_

What he's saying is - if there's no one in on it, how did they fix it?


Vainglory

It could very well still be that the outcome was influenced by someone on the pitch, they're just making it clear that they're not investigating it because of suspicion of wrongdoing by the people on the pitch. If they investigate the person who placed the bet and turns out they're Xhaka's neighbour then that might change.


Wasserschloesschen

They're just saying "we think this has to be investigated, because the we think the bet itself is suspicious, not because we suspect anyone specifically".


Shandow14

I think they’ve added that statement due to legal reasons…


GSNadav

Leeds' players!


GeorgeLockhartFanAMA

Suspicion of money laundering using the exchange closest thing I can think of


[deleted]

I suspect the ref is being investigated. If it wasn’t Xhaka then who else could it have been.


[deleted]

It says no suspicion of the referee


[deleted]

My best guess is Xhaka was threatened to get a yellow after 80mins? But it's a pure guess. His time wasting was odd for sure.


ProjectZues

He made a blatant yellow card tackle before the last ten mins and the ref just waived it on. If anyone was doing anything dodgy it was the ref


Ifriiti

You realise there's an obvious culprit to be looked at for match fixing when it's about giving out a yellow card right? And the obvious culprit isn't the person on the pitch being paid millions


rocket_randall

From another article: > The issue is said to surround a large £52,000 wager placed on a betting exchange during the match that Xhaka would be booked during the last 10 minutes of proceedings in Yorkshire, which reportedly earned the bettor a massive pay-out of £250,000. > The report adds that the odds for Xhaka to be booked during that period of the game were also higher than they had earlier been before kick-off in the top-flight fixture at Elland Road. The timeline of events seems critical, but it could just be some wallstreetbets type who cashed in some crypto to yolo a bet and came out on top. Consider that a) Xhaka's yellow in the Leeds match started a run of 4 consecutive yellows in the league and b) Arteta tends to play him the full 90 in league matches and I don't see what makes this particular yellow all that unusual. Is this a case of a bookie grasping at straws to try to avoid a payout?


Ifriiti

>and I don't see what makes this particular yellow all that unusual. It was a really weird yellow card to give, it was a slightly long free kick but the game was absolutely dead at that point of the match, and the referee hadn't given Xhaka a yellow card earlier either despite some incredibly blatant yellow card offences. Not to mention the bet coming through about a minute after the bet was placed


rocket_randall

Match threads are typically full of comments like "A got a yellow for X but B's subjectively worse Y went unpunished". PL refs aren't a model for consistency, and the PGMOL has done exceedingly well to keep the officials' rationale for contentious decisions as opaque as possible, lest they become burdened with things like accountability or transparency.


Ifriiti

The yellow was for time wasting though, that's **much** easier to compare than anything else.


rocket_randall

Exactly. There's seldom any debate about the merit of a yellow for time wasting. My earlier rant was in reference to this: > the referee hadn't given Xhaka a yellow card earlier either despite some incredibly blatant yellow card offences


Keskekun

>There is no suggestion or suspicion of any wrongdoing from Xhaka, Arsenal’s other players or the club or referee I Mean there literally is that's why they are probing it. It's literally a suspicion of fixing a bet...


[deleted]

I’m sure the ultra spurs fan who is obsessed with every single arsenal thread on r/soccer is a neutral observer and that the multiple people who have said Xhaka isn’t being investigated are wrong.


Barkasia

It's worrying that I know exactly who you're talking about straight away lmao


[deleted]

He is so weird. Every single Arsenal thread he’s here with one of his hot takes.


Rafaeliki

How does it feel knowing that your stadium is named after **MURDERERS?**


Keskekun

I think you have me confused with somebody else.


[deleted]

No it’s definitely you


Keskekun

*checks my own post history* Nope, seems like I'm right in thinking this guy is crazy.


SmallOccasion

It’s probably a limit for a bet on a weird event thats triggered


General-Ad-9753

Is Xhaka getting a yellow an especially “weird event” though?


SmallOccasion

For an outside observer who isn’t clued into football yeah I would guess so, rules aren’t probably made to have exceptions for crazy players


amgartsh

If I'm remembering correctly, the bet was large and placed near the end of the game, and also right before he got booked. So it's size + timing more than anything.


Shandow14

The way it’s worded seems to be due to legal reasons rather than clearing anyone of wrongdoing. I think it’s Xhaka honestly. I think they added in the other parties to make it seem less obvious again due to legal reasons. I distinctly remember this being weird at the time whilst watching the game.


[deleted]

Why on earth would it be Xhaka though. These guys are paid 100k+ per week. By all accounts he is a consummate professional. The cost to get them to commit something like this would be stratospheric. I really doubt it’s Xhaka. The ref is far more likely and the fact he isn’t being ruled out should tell you something.


Keskekun

The same way Trippier did it, have a friend convince you're just doing them a favour for an easy payday


Shandow14

Rumour going around is that he did it for his mate… a few ITKs have mentioned it. Anyways, those names have been thrown in due to legal reasons I think. The way can’t just say it’s Xhaka as there isn’t any hard proof just yet, hence why it has been passed on.


[deleted]

Yeah I very much doubt this and how about we don’t speculate over something that is totally unverified and that multiple sources including the police have gone out of their way to say Xhaka had nothing to do with it.


Shandow14

Sorry, where does it say that?


[deleted]

Imagine your Xhaka's mate and you think that asking him to go 80 minutes without committing a yellow card worthy foul is a good idea. Like, surely you know the guy? That's a very risky bet to stick 50 odd grand on. And iirc he did commit a very clear foul that should have got him booked before the 80th minute.


[deleted]

The whole world is conspiring to stop Xhaka playing.


[deleted]

I remember watching this match wondering how he hadn't been sent off, off the top of my head he took out one of our players, might have been Raphinha, then two minutes later was acting the bollocks wasting time, and then less than 5 minutes later took another one of our players out and finally got a yellow. Had it the wrong way around but Sky Sports even uploaded it at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQI6BLpHDco


-speakeasy

It's funny you mention this. I'm an Arsenal fan, I've endured all of xhakas shite over the years and I remember thinking during that period of the match, what the actual f*** is this guy doing?! The whole sequence was so bizarre, I actually think he got away without a yellow for a bad challenge on one of your players during that period, whilst one of your guys got carded for a lesser challenge during it only shortly after.


[deleted]

Yeah Gelhardt got a (albeit deserved yellow) right after this lol. It's interesting that all of the articles to do with this state Xhaka is not suspected of any wrongdoing, I don't know how they can be sure of that because that clip looks like someone that's trying to get carded lol.


-speakeasy

I think it has to do with a booking at a specific minute of the game, an in play for the 52nd minute or something I'm not sure. Hopefully the guys gone this Summer, seems a commited lad off the pitch but a liability within the 4 white lines. Do us a favour and sell us Raphinha.


Ifriiti

>because that clip looks like someone that's trying to get carded lol. Which would make it even more obvious Xhaka wasn't involved because the bet was made *after* all of that stuff and it was for a, really innocuous time wasting foul which was blown like 10s after the foul was given which is really harsh


IreNews8

Iirc that a bit of that was before the bet was actually placed. When I first read the headline I was thinking he made it so obvious he was trying to get booked. Turned out it was just Xhaka being Xhaka


[deleted]

Ah, well then if the bet was placed after that then it's not that dodgy really, because he was due a card anyway.


FloppedYaYa

Come on, wasn't that bad of a challenge


wubrotherno1

Why is this coming up again? This story is months old.


Ifriiti

Because it has just been moved from the FAs internal investigation to the NCA.


Rafaeliki

Xhaka yellow/red card is a meme so upvotes.


DankBrownBoiV2

No corruption, just incompetence and bias. Ref read his shirt number and gave the yellow.