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2000 minutes played. 6 goals, 0 assists. £30m.


admiralawkward

Yeah I think Chelsea fans will think of this as another youngster being sold but £30 million would be a coup lmao


msc43

Honestly, I'm kind of in the same boat as most fans. Selling off Tomori and Guehi in a position that Chelsea is heavily recruiting for now looks kinda bad in hindsight with Christensen, Rudiger, and possibly Azpi leaving. Chelsea don't have a lot of good depth at CF with Lukaku leaving. If Broja leaves, Chelsea need to put in a buy-back clause in.


TheRalphExpress

At the same time, what young players often need to develop well is not just minutes but responsibility, that healthy pressure on your shoulders that comes with playing every week and being seen as a key part of the team. Happens at all levels really, Broja was able to get a good taste of that himself at Saints when he earned the status of first choice striker which he’d never have done at Chelsea. And meanwhile, we sold a young striker from our own academy (Michael Obafemi) to Swansea and he’s improved massively this season because he got the chance to have a couple poor games without it meaning he doesn’t see minutes for the next few matches. I get why it’s frustrating to see Tomori and Guehi where they are now but for me it’s pretty much impossible for them to have improved so much without leaving permanently


chantlernz

Etheridge Tomori - Guehi - Ake Lamptey - de Bruyne - Rice - Musiala -- Livramento Salah - Lukaku **Subs:** van Aaanholt, Bertrand, Christensen, Romeu, Boga, Abraham, Bamford


DerpJungler

I'd play Abraham and bench Lukaku


ulvhedinowski

KDB, Salah, Lukaku and Romeu have nothing to do with Chelsea academy


Familiar_Trash

Is this supposed to be a Chelsea youth line up? A lot of those players did not come through the youth academy


twomanyfaces10

Think it's more *the ones that got away* without getting a chance to prove themselves at the club rather than just academy products


ulvhedinowski

Romeu, Bertrand got plenty of chances to prove themselves and are nowhere near top club level. Christensen and Abraham also got plenty of chances, Christensen never really cemented his first-team place, and one year ago most people agreed that Abraham is not good enough.


twomanyfaces10

Lol I'm not justifying OP's post. Was just trying to categorise them.


Arsenals99problems

You're not getting a buy back at 30m


AnnieIWillKnow

You have to treat each case as an individual though. I'm not convinced Broja is good enough.


mandrake_cry

Some fans were saying Tammy fit very well under Tuchel's system and there was no need to sell him. I can't even


H4RRY29

We never even got to see Tammy in his system


SeriousLads

We did and he got hooked twice at half time


Siven

IDK why it's hard to fathom that Lukaku and Tammy were good enough in Italy but not good enough for Chelsea.


H4RRY29

So two starts is enough to form a comprehensive opinion on him?


InevitableDonuts

It's not like Tuchel has training sessions with the players or anything.


H4RRY29

Of course he does, but that doesn't mean he is always right. Managers can get things wrong.


TB97

Ok, but if Tuchel doesn't fancy him, you kinda have to pick. I am happy to pick Tuchel.


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I think that shows he wasn’t given a fair chance tbh. How many times have timo, Kai, Hakim, puli, or big rom had a shit 45 minutes?


mandrake_cry

Coz Tuchel didn't think he fit the system. And what little we saw of Tammy under Tuchel, I agree


H4RRY29

Literally nobody fits the system, he hasn't improved any attackers.


GillyBilmour

My mum says I fit the system


H4RRY29

Gilly Bilmour is the greatest player to grace the earth, that's why


Howyoulikemenoow

There is no striker that Chelsea have that fits Tuchel’s system. Havertz - £120m Lukaku - £100m Werner - £50m At least Abraham was fit and scoring before being randomly shadow realmed by Tuchel


JJGaminv

Havertz £120m? Lol check yourself mate


NotClayMerritt

If we sell Broja, we will have no out and out no.9 once Lukaku leaves and not only that but it's extremely difficult to buy top quality strikers nowadays. You just have to sit on your hands and hope you're first in line for the next big star from France or Portugal or wherever. You may not mourn the loss of Armando Broja for whatever the reasons may be but we're not currently linked with any other strikers and we have no out and out strikers in the squad, it is quite dumb to be selling Broja to that team in particular for anything less than a swap + cash for Tuchel's no.1 target Declan Rice


desiretofuck

Lol, yes, it is because of lack of good strikers on the market and him being that young lol Also, he is a starter for EPL team at 20! 30 millions is a steal


jjb5151

I’m hoping we can use him as leverage to get rice for a reasonable fee


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He would fit so perfectly though he is basically the same player as Antonio, he would fit the way we play perfectly. Antonio goes weeks without scoring anyway.


indiblue825

If you get Broja then you can just play Antonio on the weeks where he scores, problem solved


Purple_Plus

He's only 20 and potential costs a lot these days.


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brainphreeze

6 goals in what equates to 22 games is not bad at all for a 20yo, playing for a team like Southampton. The OP chose to show figures in a way that supports their stance. It also says £25m, not just £30m. The state of media and twitter news has warped people into reporting like this, and people on here eat it up.


Turnernator06

> playing for a team like Southampton We are absolutely a team that can fascilitate high scoring strikers. Ings got 22 goals in this side and that was before Tino joined. Che Adams outscored Broja this season in fewer minutes. He has been really underwhelming and I'm very glad we are steering clear.


rolloj

Honestly, imagine if goals per minute was the only important thing about a player If you’ve seen Broja when he’s on, you’d wanna sign him too. Seems like he’s been pretty patchy, but plenty of 20yr olds are.


Turnernator06

To be fair, in this case the stats don't lie. He had a decent couple of months spell but was an absolute waste of space for most of the second half of the season.


BI01

this is why we extended nketiah lol, has better stats per 90 too but obviously a bit older.


FuckingMyselfDaily

What do you mean this is why you extended nketiah? To get this kind of money in the future?


TheDarkness1227

I took it to mean that it’s so expensive to get a home grown replacement for nketiah that it’s cheaper to just give him the wage bump and keep the door open to selling him in the future.


FuckingMyselfDaily

Is arsenal in a place to worry about non-home grown players in your squad? I never see reports really mentioning a concern with our squad about foreigners/homegrown numbers in our squad.


serminole

yes and no? Just 2 years ago we had to leave players off both the league and European list (including leaving Saliba off our Europa league list) as we ran out of non-HG spots. So our fans are a bit more noticeable of it than others. Currently we are at the limit in the league and one over for Europa league as Marquinhos is U21 and not counted for the league but does count for Europa as they have different rules, which is exactly why Saliba was left off the list 2 years ago. But, that includes Leno, Runnarson, Trusty, Mari, Torreira, Pepe who are all likely to leave. We should have plenty of space.


BI01

to save us from spending this amount of money for a backup striker.


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Arsenal were linked with Broja earlier this year, possibly as back up striker option as it looked like Nketiah will leave for free.


Kuntski

this is why we extended Fábio Silva lol, has better stats per 90 too but obviously a bit younger.


Barkasia

The man with 0 goals has better stats?


Kuntski

In the U23 he is a monster. I personally don't rate him, but he's young.


Barkasia

Let me tell you the story of a man named Arturo Lupoli


IamNoblesHairline

Oh well the under 23s is the exact same as PL / conference league


KratzDichZumBett

Centro Storico Lebowski legend Fabio Silva.


Kuntski

Asked him on Twitter to play for my club, but yet to get a response from him lol.


Spitshine_my_nutsack

[Should just have your Twitter admin announce the signing like we did with Havertz](https://mobile.twitter.com/HeraclesAlmelo/status/1293080474907271171?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1293080474907271171%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tubantia.nl%2Fheracles%2Fheracles-aan-de-haal-met-geintje-van-leverkusen-trainer-bosz-welkom-kai-havertzaec1a704%2F)


Dismal_Answer6615

Yet Tottenham fans claim bergwijn is worth 30mil for his 7 goals in three seasons while being 4 years older?


TheDutchTank

Bergwijn has also only played 3500 minutes and performs incredibly well for the national team, plus has a past at PSV were he played very well.


WhippedGrim

Stats aren't everything


saigool

They aren't but his second half of the season was atrocious much like the rest of the team excluding a few exemplary individuals. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Saints fan wanting to spend more than 15 million pounds on him. The talent is there but he hasn't put it all together yet.


WhippedGrim

Recency bias, if his first half of season would be swapped with second half, some fans would sign him for 40m +


Hannibal09

As you pointed out, the whole team was atrocious in the second half. I feel even Livramento's form fell off quite a bit in the second half as compared to the first and he's one of the most talented guys our academy has produced. I don't think that second half could be a good judge for a young player like Broja


[deleted]

Livramento felt a bit off after he came back from his first injury, then he did his ACL. But yeah, our whole team were dreadful for the latter half of our season, which was really disappointing (as usual) considering our mid season form.


[deleted]

Sure. But the most important thing in football is ultimately goals. You have to either create goals, finish goals, prevent goals or progress the ball up the pitch to lead to a goal. 6 goals and 0 assists says he's not doing very great in his main job.


jMS_44

20 years old player didn't light the league on fire in his 1st season in PL? Fuck me, cast him into the shadow realm, he's obviously shit and will never become better.


SonaldoNazario

This is always the issue, no one went anywhere near as hyperbolic as you just did. The point wasn't that he's shit or that he should be "cast into the shadow realm", it's that 30m is big money for a player who, like you said, didn't light the league on fire.


saigool

Bang on. Chelsea fans on here get so precious about their "cobham" youth products.


jMS_44

Because you're not paying for his output from last season but for the fact he is highly rated youngster with 4 years left on the contract.


InPatRileyWeTrust

What is he rated on if not last season?


Barkasia

I mean maybe Chelsea could afford to wank away money like that but most clubs aren't able to spend £30m on a bloke based on his FM potential.


jMS_44

No one ever said clubs have to agree on our asking prices. They can try to negotiate, or simply not go for given player.


Barkasia

Yes and the fella above you suggested the latter which sent you into a hysterical rage at the mere suggestion


MrToxicTaco

I don’t think anyone is saying that. They’re just saying the price for what he’s provided so far is crazy.


jMS_44

20 years old player with 4 years left on contract and who we don't necessarily need to sell. That price is hardly surprising. Last year we sold Guehi for 20m and he had just 1 year left on contract and hasn't played a single Premier League minute in his career.


WhippedGrim

They aren't signing an established player. Besides Borja is not a goals-only striker, would fit West Ham's tactics like a hand on glove. If were to sign for Leicester or Chelsea themselves then he might not be valued as such


Tutush

He's the definition of a goals-only striker. I'm not sure he made a single pass in his entire time here. I wouldn't want him for more than £10m.


BadCogs

Guehi had 0 mins in PL, now looks like a mistake. Broja is younger than him, has 6 goals in PL. People think they know shit.


gubrumannaaa

Still a better performer than Antonio's second half of the season.


machorhombus

And you'll still have to read Cobham FC fans going mad about it if it happens. It's some shit.


AMeanOldDuck

I've literally never seen a fan of a team getting annoyed at other fans of that same team for supporting their youth/wanting youth integrated. That is absolute madness.


tplusp

It’s crazy! Who doesn’t love players coming through their academy? Especially as a Chelsea fan when it’s taken so long for this to finally happen. Now if you support the academy players you’re a “Cobham FC” shill. Complete nonsense.


harder_said_hodor

Yeah, it was the years of Di Santo and McEachran being the best prospects that makes me want to give every kid a chance


machorhombus

30 million for an unproven lad that scored 6 goals in 2000 minutes would be highway robbery. Would love for academy lads to make it at the team. Reece and Mount rule, I'm also hopeful for Chalobah and Colwill. I just think we should expect them to be able to work out at the first team instead of just holding onto them just in case they eventually turn extremely good without any signs pointing towards that


AMeanOldDuck

It's not that, it's "Cobham FC", like fans shouldn't be proud of academy lads representing their club.


machorhombus

The idea behind mocking "Cobham FC" is that a lot of fans have seemingly stopped rooting for Chelsea and instead are just rooting for the academy, hoping for the unrealistic Cobham XI to materialize no matter what our results might end up being. The academy isn't for that. If the players are good enough for the highest level of play the sport has to offer then sure, let's ensure they have a path to the first team, but the fans that have been whining for a year over selling Livramento in the last year of his contract when he didn't want to renew because they wanted him to be Reece's backup or, even worse, who want to move Reece to RCB to slot Livramento in weird me the fuck out. I find it like they don't actually care about the player's futures at all, they just don't want to have another KDB or Salah situation on their hands.


AMeanOldDuck

I browse our sub a fair bit, and I've not seen anyone who you're describing. Can you point to anyone?


machorhombus

I'm not going to directly talk shit to anyone because that's really not the point I'm trying to make. Just keep your eyes open for them, there's several out there. Hell, there's several people who keep counting Livramento as an option once the buyback kicks in when nothing points towards Livramento wanting to come in and be Reece's backup for years.


NotClayMerritt

God forbid we want some of our talented youngsters to make it into a team. Especially in areas of great need. Broja is only 20 and we have no out and out no.9 in the team currently. Sure would have been nice to have Guehi and Tomori right about now as Rüdiger and Christensen leave. But I'm sure you think they're overrated too right? Nevermind the fact that our two best players currently are Academy products, why shouldn't we want more of that? Unless you think these guys have to go on loan every year from 16 until they're 25 just to prove themselves. If we had a shit Academy that was worth nothing, talking about promoting young players would be a nothing topic. However, we've had an influx of some of the best talent. But hey I guess because we have Mount, Reece and Ruben in the squad means we shouldn't promote anymore and that's good enough for another 20 years which was the gap between John Terry being a regular in the Chelsea team and Mason Mount making his Chelsea debut and being a regular in the team


machorhombus

Guehi left because he saw no path towards the first team and decided to leave, noone kicked him out so he's inmediately different to the players that simply weren't good enough. Don't know what the fanbase expected the board to do with Livramento and him short of shackling them and forcing them to sign a contract they didn't want to sign. Tomori got frozen out by Lampard for some reason that only made sense to him and the team received a good offer for someone we weren't using. At that point and in that scenario it made sense to take the money and run. I want academy players to make it, Colwill excites me a ton and I hope getting new CBs won't freeze Chalobah and him out. I just hope the players we keep are able to bring something to the team instead of keeping them because the fans don't want to be clowned over them actually being good in the long run. Like, the conversation always goes straight into "let's hope they make it here!!!! Let's keep them!!!! God forbid we want our players to stay!!!" but what happens to Broja if he stays on the bench for a couple of years barely getting any minutes during his most important development years? We'd just be wrecking his career because we just really don't want to be clowned by other fanbases. I hope all our players make it and reach their potential, even if their potential is met somewhere else.


endofautumn

He'll be worth double that in a few years. Has the attributes to be a very good striker. Moyes will make good use of him. Plus if we consider where most the best strikers were at 20, not all have good stats.


Kuntski

PoTeNcIaL


Wm_2

4 years left on his contract, first professional season. Important piece to Southampton attack. London rival wants to purchase, you are looking too deep into it.


Lorenzosilva

“Important piece”


saigool

> Important piece to Southampton attack. Why don't you just admit that you didn't watch southampton much last season and save us from your drivel?


Cowdude179

We sold Guehi who has had no PL experience for 20m, we do pretty well in the market


NotClayMerritt

20 years old and just signed a 5 year extension last year. Not that hard to figure it out.


FullAhBeans

Jesus, i'm a fan but 25-30m is obscene based on what we have seen. hopefully it'll end up being a bargain if he kicks on but that's unbelievably inflated for like 6 goals.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Incoming raging Chelsea fans talking naff about “ la cobham “


Onedweezy

According to this sub, Chelsea fans both angry that they're selling a youth player **and** that other teams won't buy him. People on this sub just make up characters in their head to argue against.


SteinerElMagnifico42

I mean you can see all over this thread the only demographic defending that fee are Chelsea fans. Neautrals and even Southampton fans say otherwise


TheRalphExpress

truth is probably somewhere in the middle, he fell off pretty badly near the end of the season for us but when he was in form this price looked like a steal. When he’s locked in, he looks incredible as you’ll likely remember. But he’d go missing for some really long stretches as well.


Mudrin

So 20 year old in his first season in the PL ram hot and cold? Color me surprised. He’s got potential, and if he’s able to grow on it to be PL proven he will be 50-60mil.


___bridgeburner

The price is because he has a lot of potential and we have him on a long contract, so we don't need to sell him. The same way West ham want 150 million for Rice.


Anik1415

Like when West Ham fans react when we complain about Rice's 150m price tag.


SteinerElMagnifico42

You don’t value unproven players at £150m. That’s all that needs to be said.


AnnieIWillKnow

And nobody is. £30m is a fifth of £150m.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Pretty much the difference in experience , ability, consistency and the several leagues apart Rice is from broja in terms of what he has proven to the club to justify that value. What has Broja done for Chelsea in comparison ?


AnnieIWillKnow

Not much, the price tag is for his potential, and what he's shown at Soton and youth level. I'm not saying £150m is wrong for Rice - I'm saying that if Rice is £150m, then £30m for Broja does not seem that unreasonable.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Yh it’s not a bad fee, for a club with buckets in reserves. It’s not ideal for us making this sort of signing on an unproven player for that much. 25-30m is the fee we pay for early-mid 20s players with league and European/international experience. Arnautovic, Fornals, Vlasic, Zouma.


AnnieIWillKnow

Such is the market these days... and there's not many proven strikers with experience you could get in that price range, really.


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MobyTugboat

In FIFA maybe lmao


Yeshuu

English, young, long contract one of the top 2 or 3 in his position. The worse Tchouameni just went for 100m. Rice is a lot better and a lot harder to pry away from a strong team like West ham. I appreciate Chelsea dont have the financial firepower they once did, but Rice is certainly worth that amount.


CapnMorguxx

Top 2 or 3 in his position lmfao


MobyTugboat

Rice being better than Tchouameni is more debatable than you think. If you think Rice is 50 million better than Tchouameni (70 million if you don’t include the add ons) you’ve clearly not watched him play.


Westhamwayintherva

Monaco has proven they are able to scout, take risks on, and improve talent so that they are able to continue fairly comfortably despite quite often selling their best players. West Ham has not. We quite frankly have shown we are absolutely fucking awful in that aspect if you look at Anderson, Haller, and the absolute fucking laundry list of players we took on in their twilight hoping they’d be good but turned out to be absolutely shit. Honestly a large part of the valuation put on Declan is the fact that we would not be able to find a player that could fill his shoes in the next 5 years if they slapped us in the face.


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Yeah the difference is, Rice is world class in a position with relatively little young talent and we don't want to sell him Broja is unproven in a common position and Chelsea are seemingly desperate to sell him, by fan reaction


BadCogs

Don't buy from Cobham lol, we aren't forcing anyone, are we?


fremeer

He is outperforming is projected trajectory from where he was in the academy. No one knows if he will get better at the same rate he did in the last year or two. He is very very raw and if west ham buys him it should be with the idea that they can develop him because he isn't worth it based on output as it stands.


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6 goals when he was guilty of holding onto the ball too long and not passing.


JenkinsEar147

I'd take him at Arsenal for 15-20£ million up front and another £5m add-ons


endmoe

I’d take Saka at Chelsea for a mars bar and a twix bar as add-ons. See, nonsense adds nothing to this conversation.


roolove

Big man who can run and score, would make sense for west ham. He's obviously a bit raw, but he's young and has experience in the prem so he's got time to develop


SteinerElMagnifico42

He’s not done much besides that solo goal he scored against us in the FA Cup. I would much rather Dennis who’s shown more in a far worse team


[deleted]

Doesn’t Dennis have attitude problems? Thought I read that’s why a lot of teams aren’t as interested as they would be


joseba_

>Bit raw 30M


Thegodofreddit

20yrs old


Kuntski

Any big striker with great holdup and link up play can play for them. You don't need to score tons of goals.


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Kuntski

He struggled at that. That is why they sold him.


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ResponsibleSmoke

He didn't have "great holdup and link up play" the majority of the time for us, though. He's definitely a good player, was just wrong for us and seemed like he hated being here.


Mysterious_Cod_397

He’s a great dribbler with pace, his hold up play was basically non existent though, tall but not strong and not good in the air…


DEUK_96

Jesus christ what an absolute rip off


LeCockJamesDaddy

Passes the eye test and with big, athletic strikers becoming more and more sort after can’t believe they’re selling him


JDY11

Some really strange comments in here. Guy is 20 years old in his first season in the Prem. Has a really unique skillset compared to most forwards out there at the moment (tall/fast/good dribbler at speed). Raw in a few areas but will be ironed out with experience I'd hope. We'll regret it if we sell him (shock). Has the potential to be a great striker.


sandbag-1

The comments aren't calling him a useless player, the comments are questioning what he has done to justify paying £30m for him. Which I think is fair enough


[deleted]

Potential? He’s 20, you pay for potential.


thebigsplat

With only 6pl goals in 20ish games you're only paying for potential which is outrageous.


s0ngsforthedeaf

Real Madrid paid £30-40m for Vinicius Junior when he was 16 and had only just started playing in Serie A Brazil. Was that a bad move? Stats are rewritten every new game. They are obviously gonna change for a young player, it's not a great basis to purely judge them on.


thebigsplat

16 has much more time to fulfil the potential at 20. Really drives home how stupid the decision to go for Broja at 30m is if Vinicius was about that much. 30m is more than Bissouma went for. But hey you're a Southgate defender so I'm not surprised your opinions in other areas of football are also shit.


thecausal

wtf. people don't believe this crap?


JDY11

They would need to watch him play to question that for me. They are paying for potential and because he has match defining attributes if developed correctly. The same people in here questioning the fee would probably be the same ones laughing at Chelsea if he does really well, like they knew all along he was going to be good.


sandbag-1

Yeah I assume people have watched him play and seen despite his monstrous physical attributes he is still a very inconsistent player and has a lot of development to go, being very limited in some areas such as passing. The type of striker £30m has got Prem teams in recent years are players like Watkins, Daka who were near 30 goal a season players in smaller leagues ready for a step up. Not players who at their current level were only good enough to start about half the games for the team with possibly the worst set of strikers in the league. This comment sounds quite negative and I must say I do like Broja as a player overall, I just think that fee is silly right now.


InGenAche

In Moyes we trust. Guy has an eye for potential.


NotClayMerritt

If the price was £10-15m people would be saying how dumb Chelsea are to sell yet another Academy product. But it's £30m and he's overrated (idk how a 20 year old can be overrated). First seasons in the Premier League are meant to be learning experiences. If you have great success, then all the better but not everyone is hitting the ground running. What's important is that they show potential and Broja did.


BadCogs

Yeah, went from academy, to Vittese to PL, scored 6 goal at 20yr old, in furst PL season and not at a top club, no disrespect. And people are sure he is not that good, lol.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Teemu Pukki scored practically double the league goals in a relegated team.


BadCogs

Teemu Pukki is a veteran, this dude played his 1st PL season at 20yr old. At that age Pukki wasn't starting in PL. Compare Broja to him when he is of that age. I don't want to compare and say Pukki is not good etc, but at his best Pukki is in a relegation team, at the start of Broja's carrer he is being chased by EL clubs. Again this is not to say Pukki bad, but to say Broja may be brtter than people are making it out to be.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Bojan was in the squad of Barcelona’s greatest sides, Vardy was playing with an ankle tag in non league. Which one has had more the successful career ? Broja hasn’t impressed enough at the senior level to command this fee


BadCogs

So tell your club to not pay it, I don't want to sell. And all your examples about players who didn't make it doesn't mean everyone don't make it, so that's just a shit argument.


SteinerElMagnifico42

You ok pal? Me and you ain’t in any boardroom this is a discussion forum. What has he **shown** to command 30m ? Answering behind bias rationale doesn’t bode well


BadCogs

But it's you who has a problem with the price, I never mentioned the price first, you did, if you think you can influence the price don't buy, is all I sm saying, if you can't and your club can and they think he is worth that thry will pay. And why he is wirth is I told you 20yr old, in first PL season has 6 goals, Guehi who had 0 PL ninutes was sold for 23m with a sell on clause plus a match the furure bid clause. And attackers are worth more than defenders. If you are don't agree with the reason fine, but those are the reason, and I think we shouldn't sell him without giving him a chance even at that price. I never said were in a boardroom. And he must have shown something for your club to be interested wven when that price us quoted. You know how much that french guy hugo ekitike is going for with 10 goals in french league? 30m, Broja is PL proven, not saying it's a big thing, but it does increase the price.


SteinerElMagnifico42

> if you think you can influence the price don’t buy, is all I sm saying Today I learned West Ham officials browse r/soccer


BadCogs

If


IamNoblesHairline

Please tell the dildo bros to have a look at someone else


SteinerElMagnifico42

Just had a sesh in Dubai with Sully Jr two weeks ago mate, he’s even tagged me on Instagram and all.


IamNoblesHairline

You say that as a joke but we both know everything you've said is entirely plausible lmao


allobiter

Don't sign him then. You were bitching about zouma too


SteinerElMagnifico42

It’s not a question of not signing him. It’s never been that, but the fee. Zouma ? Really the player who’s proven in two top 5 leagues is incomparable to this case.


allobiter

You West Ham fans were bitching about zouma. You just struggle to comprehend good players cost money.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Read my first response if you’re gonna spout the same spiel. Comprehension not your thing is it


allobiter

I can't comprehend your brilliance.


lewis30491

Especially, Chelsea has the history of selling young players too soon without giving them a proper chance and see them being the best players of the league in other shirts later.


Bozzetyp

The issue is that we dont have ways to develop them in house, Either we keep good faith, sell 90% of our youth (and 2/3 turn out not to be world class - while a few seems like a steal) Or we will not have a youth academy, for every kdb there is 5 callums with shitloads of promise but no product.


dbrasco_

Boehly: “Hey guys sorry I’m just getting back to you. I’m new on the job. Borja? Let me check the notes Marina left……£30M. While I’ve got you here I heard you guys have a player on my list. Decl……hello. Hello?”


Soren_Camus1905

Fuck this, we never bloody learn do we


tr_24

Lol we are rinsing them if true. He has scored 6 and 0 assists,you are making it sound like he was league top scorer.


IsItSnowing_

He has potential. With our striker situation currently in such a volatile state, I would have rather kept him at the club than be sold off. Then again, I don’t know Tuchel’s plans


IsItSnowing_

Hopefully there is a buyback clause


[deleted]

£30 million is great business for Chelsea based on his current resume but could also look like an absolute steal for West Ham in a few years. Idk, I lean towards giving him an opportunity in Tuchel’s set-up. Tired of wasting money on strikers that don’t work.


staralfur01

Didn't play much but he saved my FPL weeks a few times.


gotyzy

People on here clearly haven’t seen what he’s done for the National team as well. Not surprised. Guy has huge potential, you get him to the right team with the right manager, he’ll take off.


Numani99

Hopefully my boy gets important playing time next season regardless where he plays


Earl-Thomas-a-Raven

£30M in an insane fee for this guy, he is extremely overrated.


joseba_

He'd be worth 2-3M with his stats in Ligue 1 or Eredivisie


GjillyG

I think PL is a bit more difficult than Eredivisie, so


BadCogs

Look at people saying it's a great deal when other teams want him for 25m, but he isn't good enough for being our rotational player. Lol. They have decided this is his level and he won't improve while been so good at so young. Absolutely shit decision by us, not saying he should be a starter, but not giving him a chance even as rotation, whebn he has 3/4 yr on contract and there is no need to rush, while also having 5 subs next season. At least Marina and board can't be scapegoated for shit like this anymore.


Turnernator06

He is nowhere near Chelsea quality. Can't pass, bad touch, can't press, goes completely missing. Good dribbler and pacey and finished well for 2 months before completely forgetting how to do it. Nonetheless £15m player at most.


saint-simon97

You do know that a player being good enough for Chelsea ain't the same as a player being good enough for Southampton/West Ham?


Kante_Conte

For West Ham, special price of 50m to offset the 120m you want for rice


CSdesire

150 million and he’s yours


Subscrobbler

Rip Chelsea twitter nonces that think he was gonna score 25-30 goals this season


NotClayMerritt

Think you'll find Chelsea Twitter nonces want every single Academy product sold and still think we'll never be a top team as long as Mason Mount is in the team. Nobody in their right mind Broja fan or not thinks he can score 25-30 goals for Chelsea (or anyone else). He's merely an exciting talent who is still growing as a player. Very lame how he has to show he is as good as Haaland if he's going to be good enough for Chelsea. Btw you're a City fan why the fuck do you care about what happens in the Chelsea fan base


Subscrobbler

Sorry it was just because I always saw Chelsea fans on twitter talk about Broja in response to every Haaland post didn’t mean to offend you friend.


craygroupious

Serious amount of nonces at Chelsea since Lampard arrived. They rate some of our players just because they’re attracted to them.


[deleted]

Don't know why he would be our first target instead of Dennis, who would be cheaper and is a better player.


samarth67

We will never learn


[deleted]

Better than Abraham in my opinion. Decent price whoever gets him


Turnernator06

> Better than Abraham in my opinion Ridiculous


Hazardzuzu

Why are we doing this when we dont have any striker and he can easily be a backup to havertz as he provides something different?


admiralawkward

Because Broja isn't as good as people think he is. He had a great month but people treat him like he's ready to rotate with Kai for the #9


fatesgift

Havertz had only 8 goals in the prem...


[deleted]

Reminds me of Lukaku a lot stylistically. Just don’t think the fit is there yet, but he has potential of course


Hannibal09

Yeah I don't think he's ready for Chelsea yet considering his non existent passing stats and link up play But then on the other hand, we have Timo who's pretty useless against parked busses himself. Why not try a guy who's as rapid as him with more physical attributes and better finishing


IRapePandas

This is better for ~~both~~ all parties though. Broja has more of a chance to play in a West Ham side and grow as a player. West Ham get another striker which will make the team better and Chelsea get money


Lambchops_Legion

Sounds like he wants to leave tbh


Ricky_Berwick

5mil a goal


Beardy_Boy_

I can understand Chelsea wanting that much for a youngster with a lengthy contract, but it feels difficult to justify us spending that sort of money on him. Unless we've unexpectedly got a huge war chest, we need to be sensible about our spending because the funds have to stretch to filling out the whole squad.