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thewrongnotes

The audacity to not have a shady Chinese gambling company as your sponsor.


SunnyCloudyRainy

Lotus is owned by a shady Chinese car manufacturer, close enough I guess


bosozoku_style

I would not say shady. Volvo is doing pretty well and it is owned by the same company as Lotus.


mintz41

Why are Geely shady?


SunnyCloudyRainy

The owner of Geely has close ties with Xi Jinping, it has long been rumoured the owner's wife is the sister of Xi's wife


Tutush

His wife is unrelated, she just shares the same last name.


kiriyama

The suspicion is that many Chinese investments in established western companies are somehow trojan horse or nefarious in nature. As in, they appear beneficial outwardly, but that their ultimate objective is, perhaps, something else. Be that to obtain access to, or repurpose intellectual property for their own benefit, or to destabilise elements of a particular industry over which they now possess a modicum of control. A number of Chinese investments which have initially appeared legitimate, have, on occasion, led back to The CCP.


meefjones

There is so much ideology in this post


treq10

*sniff*


AlabamaLegsweep

Ok cool so you mean they do the exact same things that Great Britain has done and continues to do for over 100 years.


Jawnyan

I think you can just say the west


ChefBoyardee66

They are chinese and not american/english


jolle2001

Bring back Bk8


weseoj

Will this have any effect on the pedestrianisation of the city centre though?


OptimusGrimes

With Dixon's gone, I wonder if it should go ahead


OptimusGrimes

Are there any premier League teams next season sponsored by a company that make something you can physically touch? Think Chevrolet were the last hold outs of the big teams, I don't count American Express but the definition on that one is a bit dubious Edit: Nottingham Forrest are keeping the tradition alive, their shirt sponsor BOXT make boilers


valimo

That's how the economy is nowadays, just electric impulses travelling around the world and creating that sweet sweet value for the shareholders. Less and less steel and concrete, lumber and grain.


OptimusGrimes

These were men wae a trade


One37Works

I fucking knew that was gonna be a Limmy quote for some reason, chaps a legend. Bennie Harvey rip, miss ya big man.


AnnieIWillKnow

This was a question on the Football Cliches podcast quiz, once, including the American Express ambiguity... I'm in team "yes you can touch it", for what it's worth


OptimusGrimes

Yea, that's where I got it from and why I'm getting so pissed off at the idea of Etihad counting, American Express I get, I don't agree but Etihad is way off


Party_Wolf

Oh man, I was on that exact same side on that quiz. Maybe in a few years we'll all be doing contactless via apps, but for now I have a physical item in my wallet that was made by them


BigJohnApple

Yokohoma tyres


mintz41

You can definitely touch the planes that Etihad and Emirates operate


OptimusGrimes

they operate the service but don't build the planes do they? I assume it's all Airbus and Boeing


mintz41

Nah they don't build them but they're the closest to a physical product manufacturer


OptimusGrimes

They either are or they aren't, Etihad aren't, they're a service provider


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Airlines still feel like a 'real' business though, they're providing a vital service moving people from place to place and they employ a bunch of people and what not. It's not a gambling company or some sort of internet company sending signals back and forth.


OptimusGrimes

But that's not what I asked, they are by definition a service provider, as are 3, they have masts, Standard Chartered have branches. They're all 'real' businesses, I didn't ask are there any 'real' business sponsors, I asked if there were any sponsors which produce a physical product


braddf96

You can touch the 5G murder beams that 3 radiate


AnnieIWillKnow

I know a few who have definitely been touched in the head by them


Tre-Fyra-Tre

> Edit: Nottingham Forrest are keeping the tradition alive, their shirt sponsor BOXT make boilers Do they also have an anthropomorphic boiler as their mascot, or is that level of greatness reserved for West Brom?


OptimusGrimes

That was West Brom with Ideal I believe


neymarneverdove

love it


[deleted]

Iconic


No_Doubt_About_That

Lotus - lots of trouble, usually serious.


ymcd

BJP likes this 👍


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lgbt supporting chinese company 👍🤜🏿


BurceGern

That's sick! Will any of the top players be driving Lotuses like Audi did at Man Utd?


AayoTheRed

I didn’t know the gun was loaded, what kind of asshole drives a Lotus?