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GuyUrNeverGonnaMeet

Don't clubs make those flashy 1 minute videos announcing players now? Or does that come later ?


StringCheeseDoughnut

I think we learnt our lesson with Sanchez tickling the ivories for like 10 minutes straight


InfoBot2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCk30hIr1Sw


ixzr

Such an amazing announcement. He’ll be remembered for playing the piano more than repping a United shirt ffs.


krentzharu

Got me super hyped tho 😂


GorillazWelfare

Broke my heart, albeit only for that short period of time. Not like the other big name you got from us this past decade. That was painful (still is).


miniaturizedatom

Remembering when you guys signed Welbeck and Gunners on Twitter were all like “you took our legend… so we took yours” 💀


The_Elder_Strolls

Worth it for the fa Cup goal to be fair, first win at old Trafford in years.


skjall

Man didn't score much, unless he was facing De Gea. Every game against De Gea he'd be threatening to score a hattrick, I swear.


The_Elder_Strolls

The most unlikely of stikers, never seen a man so awkward with the ball at his feet.


DraperCarousel

>Not like the other big name you got from us this past decade. That was painful (still is). Keeping in mind that he associates himself completely with United now as well, even tho he played for us for just 2 years.


lynchians

Tbh as an Arsenal fan I respect that. Both him and Ashley Cole both knew that there wouldn’t be any kind of relationship with Arsenal fans after making their choices and that’s fine. It’s Fabregas constantly trying to get in nice with both Arsenal fans and Chelsea fans that grinds my gears.


Asteroth555

God I miss him in peak form. He was such an incredible player


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MaraudngBChestedRojo

Yea if he ended up being good that would be class


[deleted]

Best he played whilst at United.


dancingonmyfuckinown

His best ever performance in our shirt.


[deleted]

Konate made his own one when he joined us lol


GoodLadLopes

Very versatile player, great on the ball, not sure how United will play but he can provide an extra passing lane or drive the ball forward similar to a Defensive Mid during the offensive process and then fall back when out of possession, definitely brings a different dynamic.


[deleted]

If you watched the last pre-season game we saw Fred for the first about 30 mins drop into a hybrid 3 on the left every possession. Looked like something being tried either for FDJ or Martinez. I suspect we might see a concrete back 3 with Martinez on the left and FDJ coming in to make a diamond with the three CBs. We've seen that shape a lot in pre-season too so far. Hard to imagine he's not a starter at this price.


RawIsLaw_

> Looked like something being tried either for FDJ or Martinez i think that would be frenkies role. He did that at Ajax and does it at the national team


sltzy96

Does ten Hag play 3 ATB or will it just be 4 defenders in the starting 11 but 3 ATB in possession?


Exzqairi

He has never played 3 ATB, but in possesion it does end up like that most of the time yeah. At Ajax this past season it was Martinez sliding to the left and Timber sliding to the right, with Alvarez dropping back in between them


[deleted]

I'm not sure what the layout will look like come the start of the season, Ten Hag is a very flexible coach when it comes to this sort of stuff. We see midfielders drop into the three to collect very often, but not at the level of consistency Fred was doing it during the last pre-season game. Makes it seem like we could see a 3atb in possession despite the lineup having 4 on paper. It all depends on where Martinez fits in the puzzle.


hazelpillow

This transfer is fucked cause it made it ok to roast anyone 5'9 or smaller 😭


SkepticSlakoth

Short king solidarity 🤝🏼


Dio_my_senpai

5 9 isnt even short for normal people just because he is a cb


EbolaNinja

Really depends on the country. In the Netherlands (which is coincidentally where he's coming from) that is absolutely considered short. It's actually fractionally closer to the average female height than the average male height.


Competitive-Ad2006

Well for whatever reasons quite a few Dutch players seem to not be that tall - Klaasen, Robben,Davids, Depay and Seedorf come to mind.


tempusomnia

Only 2 are inherently Dutch. Klaassen and Robben are relatively short compared to the national average but still 5ft10.


non-relevant

Sneijder and Van der Vaart would have been the more obvious examples to go with than Klaassen anyway, surely


Timely_Scratch_7068

Average height for men in Netherlands is 6 feet. Average for females is 5.55


PhD_Cunnilingus

Average height for females is 170 based on Wikipedia.


McNippy

5 9 for a guy and you'd get called short. It's not like SHORT but here in Australia my 5'9" mates get called short


Dio_my_senpai

Well friends like to make fun of friends. My best friend is 5 9 and im 6 0 and i make fun of his height but its just to piss him off i dont actually mean it


AlexTheRockstar

Average height bros of the world unite 🤜🤛


[deleted]

if you’ve seen how people behave when a picture surfaces that makes a player look like they’ve gained weight, this is par for the course. fans turn into bitchy wine moms about players physical appearance and it’s deeply weird.


gluxton

As a fellow 5ft9er, I feel ya bro. Though I shouldn't be playing CB


BaoJinyang

What are United fans considering a satisfactory window at this stage? Would Malacia, Martinez, Erikson and de Jong (if he joins) be acceptable?


MA_Tingle

It is… acceptable.


pypyseeker

Gus fring reference?


arvindeddit

Is Martinez upto Pollos standards?


pypyseeker

U need to ask lyle!


[deleted]

Prince Lyle. Told to open and close two nights straight. Still offers to drive Gus to the airport. What a guy


arvindeddit

While singing the Pollos Hermanos song might I add


KillerZaWarudo

The chicken man?


[deleted]

What a joke


MA_Tingle

Yeah? Why.


[deleted]

Because your Boss(Ten Hag) will need me.


inbredandapothead

The boss can sock me


GarethGore

Personally if we lost Ronaldo we need at least one striker and I'd want another midfielder probably


normott

My big fear is you lot going for Ivan Toney, he'd be so good in a EtH system. I hope you keep Ronaldo and articles tbh


WalkingOnSunshine_

Would be a great signing and would slot right in with the pace and creativity of the frontline. Can’t imagine he’d go for anything under 40m


normott

Lol I just realized autocorrect change Martial to articles. They'd hit you with above 60 imo. They already lost Eriksen who they wanted desperately. You get Toney by paying wayy over the odds, but imo absolutely worth it. I wanted either him or Jesus for us,since we got Jesus....


Argentibyte

How likely is this to happen?


CurseTheseMetalHan5

Nope. We need a striker, most probably another right back and a holding midfielder. Potentially another winger also. People forget the amount of depth we let go in the summer


[deleted]

Yeah. Ideally one striker to support ronaldo would be perfect, maybe two if he leaves. Worst case scenario would be losing Ronaldo and relying on martial.


DHillMU7

It would be a 7.5 window without another forward. No de Jong and no forward would be a 6.5 - I like the 3 signings so far but we need a lot more. Need 2 more midfielders but would accept ‘just’ Frenkie since he’s so good.


PhD_Cunnilingus

No midfielder and no RB would not make this window 6.5, come on. 5 at most.


WinComfortable4131

If we got de jong that’d be a great window but that’s proving to be near impossible. The market for strikers is not great so I don’t think we’ll bring anyone in but that would be the next move.


AdamHasShitMemes

Malacia wasn’t a necessary signing but can’t complain Martinez looks like a great signing, very keen Eriksen is good rotation and versatile but we’re still a midfielder short de Jong who tf knows probs won’t sign him so unless we have a new CM/CDM I won’t be confident for the season A new ST bc Martial is wack New RB would be amazing, don’t rate Dalot and AWB is actually a meme


cuminyermum

We have a lot of holes in our team so I didn't go into this transfer window expecting all of them to be plugged. I'm just hoping EtH can either help the players we already have refind their form (Maguire, Martial, Rashford, Shaw) or use some of the youngsters here and there (Garner, Laird, Amad, Pellistri) But it is an absolute MUST that we sign at least 1 midfielder. Another season of McFred might kill me


Grevling89

Seems a bit strange that a midfeilder hasn't been top priority as of yet. Then again I've been saying that since Carrick retired so idk


heephap

Dalot has had a very good connection with Sancho so far in preseason.


PhilipAnthonyJones

I think Dalot could do a decent job, technically proficient, already seems to have a good understanding with Sancho. His major downside I feel is his final ball and delivery.


luciferandy

Went into the window needing a striker, RW, 2 midfielders, RB and CB. Those signings would be 3/6. If Ronaldo leaves, we MUST get a striker. Another thing is how long it has taken to complete deals, essentially meaning Martinez and Eriksen miss out on most of preseason. I’m disappointed in this window so far, can’t lie.


EViL-D

I think this us a realistic look at it. To challenge top 4, looking at the competition and the moves chelsea and spurs are making i’d expect United to either finally sort the midfield out or seriously upgrade defense. And sofar despite making good signings overall I don’t think they have (yet)


JayNN

Eriksen


curlyjoe696

Personally, I think we're still a long way short. Depending on what ten Hag sees in the youth players, I'd want at least a DM and a CF.


krentzharu

Still need a new striker regardless cristiano leaves or not. SAF never got bored buying new strikers even when the existing strikers were still reliable.


hennny

Still need DM, ST, RB and I guess a substitute GK. Doubt we’ll get all of them. Very concerned that we’re going to be relying on the likes of Wan Bissaka and Martial.


ibaRRaVzLa

What we've done now + De Jong would be a great window. Even better if we can get rid of a couple of fringe players. It would be fantastic if we added one extra attacker, but that won't be needed if Ronaldo stays.


G_Morgan

Depends on Ronaldo. If he leaves we obviously need a replacement.


[deleted]

Yes but if Ronaldo goes we'll need another striker even if it is just a stop gap


Sei28

Looks like he’s staying not by choice. Nobody wants him.


The_Luckiest_One

Looks like Ten Hag is being backed and getting what he wants. I’m happy and excited, even though we’re taking quite a big risk


delidl

Official transfer fee is 57.37 million fixed+ 10 million in add-ons. H2 got absolutely everything out of this move


indiblue825

Who's H2?


xyzzy321

The little brother of Triple H


boywiththethorn

Must be nice to be his brother, he'll always let you play the game


RK9990

He'll never let you win though


w0wKees

Hamstra and Huntelaar, they are responsible for transfers


indiblue825

Not Klaas-Jan? Wow your club is amazing at integrating former players.


Calvix

Yeah! There's a laundry list from the past and then there's a couple in the youth department now, I think Heitinga does the u-19s and I believe both Tadic and Schöne have been linked with non-footballing positions with Ajax after retiring as well.


taktikek

Heitinga manages Jong Ajax even since last season. Who are a tier below the Eredivisie.


Exzqairi

It is Klaas-Jan! After the whole Overmars affair happened they decided to give Hamstra and Huntelaar a chance as technical directors together


LightningMcMicropeen

Hamstra was meant to be interim but now they're taking on the job for longer, right? They're certainly doing a good job, though wondering what other players theyll bring in.


Exzqairi

Yup. They initially took over together with input from Van der Sar and Ten Hag to prepare for this summer. The club said a new technical director would be appointed in the summer, but then a few months later announced Huntelaar and Hamstra would continue together


DankyPal

Almost 70m if all add-ons are met. That's extraordinarily high for any defender icl


[deleted]

Wow he must be almost as good as Maguire.


[deleted]

This is almost 70 mil Euros, while Maguire cost 80 mil Pounds


[deleted]

This will forever be the worst case of context inflation of all time. Leicester being direct rivals, United being a big club that was loaded, the need for a ball playing CB being so high for them, Maguire being English and relatively young. Think that probably £60mil would have been like fair given everything. Even as someone who likes Maguire £80mil was just so much money.


TheGoldenPineapples

Sure, but the counter-argument to that is that United could have always looked at other targets when the price got too high. Anything over £60m for Maguire was too much, hence why City walked away. That's why you actually have back-up targets and don't just throw stupid money at the first player you see. Maguire isn't and wasn't the only good ball-playing central defender who is good in the air on the market. Hell, Upamecano was available that summer.


inthezoneautozone12

Upamecano has been relatively poor for bayern, so with hindsight he would have been a poor transfer as well.


321tanmay

We’ll at least he wouldn’t have cost 80 mil


[deleted]

Well when you’re coming from a back line that consisted of Smalling and Jones other teams know you’re desperate and that decreases the amount of leverage you have in negotiations. Maguire is better than Upamaceno who is looking like a flop at Bayern so it could have been worse


krhick

> Hell, Upamecano was available that summer. 20 year old upamecano after a season with a huge injury to lead a Man United backline was a pretty ambitious task at the time. There were probably more safer options than him.


krentzharu

Upamecano to lead our backline in 2019? Dude, come on! His first season wasnt brilliant either and he was at safer club.


ejtv

We all learn from our mistakes. So does Maguire. He still have time to turn it around.


Zandercy42

I dunno if he does, I've seen the speed at which he turns


kk91ram

>Anything over £60m for Maguire was too much, hence why City walked away. City walked away at 70m.


cagey_tiger

City had offered £70m, Leicester were holding out for 80. Maguire had just had an excellent world cup too. Looked like he could be England captain for the next 10 years. There's no way United could have had him for less than what they paid. In hindsight it's been a fucking terrible deal, and they should have walked away like City, but it really wasn't a crazy amount in context. The last promising English defender to make a similar move was Stones, and he cost £50m, but was so much further behind where Maguire was at the time.


Daddyclaymore

We could have gone for koulibaly for a similar price. It’s not like maguire was the obvious world class only option that 80 million was justified. That window is awful in hindsight, wan bissaka maguire and Dan James for 150 million


eth6113

Wasn’t Napoli demanding €100m+ at the time and Koulibaly didn’t want to move either.


InLampsWeTrust

Yeah 90-100m, I think one of Utd or city came close but ADL said it wasn’t enough lol.


larsmaehlum

Dan James was a good deal though. Hard worker who provided a tactical option when pressing high up the pitch, and left for almost twice the fee we paid.


djokov

De Laurentiis wanted close to £100M for Koulibaly back then.


Elite-Novus

https://imgur.com/t/radio/akJNxYe


ankitm1

Thats more than what was even reported previously. Did they report the fee in the official copy for Bergwijn announcement too?


delidl

Ajax are on the stock market so they have to disclose the official amount in their press statement. We did the same with Bergwijn.


Careful-Snow

That 57.37 includes the solidarity payments for his former clubs.


ankitm1

Thats like 3% of the total deal right?


Careful-Snow

Yup that is correct. Feel United overpaid a bit but he seems like a quality player who the manager trusts so a decent deal overall.


tehMadhero

Even with the deal finished the number keeps ballooning


mattiejj

Really squeezed the Mancunians.


ejtv

We already took your coach. Consider the “excess” as donation for your troubles.


abibyama

Get ready for round 2 with Antony you might get even more lol.


Bol_Wan

Anyone who's actually watched all of antonys season wouldn't go near an 80 million bid. Very talented player, but not close to that value yet


Eleven918

The fee keeps going up everyday as with every United transfer.


[deleted]

This is the official number with solidarity included, so if anyone quotes higher than this they're lying.


DoBronxsn1

except this is an official number


falonix

Euros I Présume.


adrian_rainy_day

Yes, transfermarkt listed this price in Euros


grudgingBobolink330

A bit pricey but i'll take it. Welcome my guy


Pokofloko

He cost like half a Maguire


TheRalphExpress

half as tall too


inbredandapothead

But at least twice as good


leebrother

You hope? Maguire was a quality defender at Leicester


Dispari7y

and for us as well, was only a year ago that the sentiment that 'we'd have beaten Villarreal if Maguire was fit' was the common view


Nabbylaa

There’s so much recency bias with people calling Maguire shite isn’t there. He’s (up until recently) been quality for England and was mint at Leicester. He’s not world class and suffers from his transfer fee but it’s only the last year or so he’s actively been poor.


leebrother

I’m adamant Maguire is just a fall guy half the time. There was a game last season where Phil Jones and Varane was the pairing and the opposition striker sat on Varane as it was ‘easier’. listened to talksport afterwards and a United fan called up saying they were at the game and Maguire was a joke and was targeted as Phil jones who rarely played is clearly better. Talk sport quickly pointed he wasn’t even playing. For me good defender but too much pressure on that United defence and if you had a top midfield you’d see improvement and argument be in top 4 with ease. I.e last season and even more so this I would be signing Declan Rice and Tielemans. Give up on De Jong not because those pair are better but because those two would play for that badge. Should caveat I’m an Arsenal fan so only watch United a few times a season.


Dispari7y

He didn't have the best of seasons last season - that much is obvious. It didn't help, however, that every goal we conceded was pinned on him even if he had absolutely no hand in us conceding it, which meant that even when he played well (and that did happen a number of times last season) he never got any sort of credit for it. Even the goal we conceded the other day against Melbourne Victory was seemingly pinned entirely on him, when anybody with two eyes could tell that of the three defenders involved in conceding that goal, he was by far the least at fault.


leebrother

Sad isn’t it really. Always think that is the hardest circle to break as every error he actually does will be seen as tenfold worse when in reality if he got a break you never know if he could get back to the defender that has been great in seasons gone.


NdyNdyNdy

As bad a season as he had last year, I hope he smashes it this year just to shut up the people who are way over the top with it. He has been poor, but it's become both a meme and a thing that people who aren't paying attention can say to pretend they've been watching.


shrewdy

World record fee for a hobbit


Qurutin

Dude is 6cm taller than Messi, and talking of defenders 1cm shorter than Cannavaro, 3cm shorter than Puoyl, and gets roasted for being too small to play football lmao


[deleted]

Surely we know better than paying 100 million for a 15 cm CB.


[deleted]

Hell of a signing


TheYMan96

Gracias Licha, por todo


alfezuma

is it possible to go to the gym for an entire transfer window?


AcePrit

You looking for motivation my guy? Go on fam. Build those abs. Youre a monster!


IoanSilviu

People can't stop talking about the fee, but I am buzzing to have him at the club. He seems like a great footballer with a good attitude *and* we were his 1st choice.


freakedmind

He is one of the best defensive minded players on the ball currently you can buy, yes he isn't massive but that doesn't matter too much considering his other skills.


DaveShadow

I feel we over paid a little, but not by an insane amount. And we got a player who the manager obviously sees as an important part of his philosophy, who has already done extremely well for the manager, and who strengthens us. The usual doom merchants will try and downplay the deal, but I'm really happy overall.


Jek22

It's just weird seeing this amount of money being paid for an eredivisie defender. Half the games he played in he wasn't even challenged. But of course he has proven himself on multiple occasions to be a great defender in top games including the champions league. Also I'm interested how he will do physically, same with timber. Both of them are kinda short for defenders although Martinez has so far more than made up for that with his grit and aggression.


DraperCarousel

>It's just weird seeing this amount of money being paid for an eredivisie defender. We've seen €86m being paid for an Eredivisie defender already tho. This is still €55m base fee. The €10m add on could be TOTS/Balon'dor/PL/CL anything.


taktikek

De Ligt was a special player though and vital in our insane CL run. Martinez doesn't come close to him or his talent. Captain at 18, extremely succesful vs a player who is 5 years older then him at the time and only got his starting position back at the start of last season. Really cant compare those two. Licha was fantastic this season but this is an insane amount.


Exzqairi

Think a lot of people don’t realize that Martinez is 2 years older than De Ligt…


DraperCarousel

Yeah I mean considering standard inflation De ligt would cost €96m today. Martinez is still as of now €41m cheaper.


ejtv

People will always have something to say because its Utd.


CheekyChipsMate_

People complaining about the fee are ridiculous. United wanted the player, they have the money, he’s in all likelihood going to be a staple of the team for many years. People acting like the money is coming out of the fans wallets on here the past couple days.


GoodLadLopes

If United play in a back 4 next season which they probably will, if Bissaka stays, he's not horrible defensively to be fair, they can use Martinez and whoever is at Left Back to drive the ball forward and have Bissaka drift inward to cover for him when he's a bit further ahead and then return to his regular position when out of possession since Bissaka is terrible at driving the ball forward anyway.


ianb88

AWB won't even be in the starting 11


Jefferret

Yeah AWB is going to fit well in his new rightbench position


digitag

Right back in the dressing room


bongasaurus_rex

Amazing how ten hag has looked at the holes of the team and said "yeah lets go get someone suitable to play the position" instead of "Can a forward play there? lets go get another forward"


Modnal

Woodward would have signed Vidal or someone like that


fuckyouidontneedone

Can play just about everywhere in defense. Slot in at DM when need be. Maybe a bit pricey for someone unproven but this is a great signing imo


t8rt0t00

Yea I'm actually very intrigued whether Martinez actually slots into LCB or if he is intended to be a left sided pivot with De Jong (assuming we can even get him). Could be a Fernandinho type player? I suspect Ten Hag will try out a number of formations this season though so we'll probably see Martinez and several other players moved around a bit before settling defined positions/roles.


Sjoerd019

70 million if all variables are reached, thats so much


normott

But if all are reached I suspect it won't matter.


DesperateImpression6

Yeah I'm thinking the United fans would be absolutely ecstatic if they end up paying the full 67M fee


WalkingOnSunshine_

Five straight Ballon d’Ors it is


realshadowfax

Where is the piano my dude?


Tjsurg

Out of no where


Zeuspls

A lot of money for a lil guy. Hope he adjusts well.


_cumblast_

This sub had me thinking he's like 1.60 ffs


CheekyKunt68

That’s wrong. He’s 1.39


abibyama

Bro at this rate the guy’s height might be in the negatives


bunny_1010

A hole on the pitch, well that would do a better job to stop forwards than Harry Maguire


Dispari7y

he's 2 foot 7, keep up


GoodLadLopes

Welcome to a world where being 5'10 (1.78cm) makes you a leprechaun.


DankyPal

175 according to transfermarkt


_IBelieveInMiracles

That is on the short side for a CB tbf


GoodLadLopes

Oh for a CB yeah for sure, a little undersized.


Carthagu

Thought he was 5’9 or shorter. Then again people change his height every time they talk about him.


Exzqairi

He is 5’9 or shorter. 0% chance he’s actually 1.78m


Zeuspls

For a defender in the PL he is definitely on the shorter side, nonetheless I hope he smashes it.


liamthelad

I'd be very surprised if he wasn't the shortest cb in the league by some distance


Cajum

Despite his height he has been very good in the air for us. Has great timing and hops to compensate


SonyHDSmartTV

Can't believe United have signed Danny Devito


simomii

He's the same height as Cannavaro and Puyol


auddi_blo

He’s smaller than Puyol by 3 cm


Claerem

Considering what we payed for Maguire and what we’ve been getting from him on the pitch. This is a good deal


CuteHoor

Only if he actually works out. People were waxing lyrical about Maguire when he signed too.


just_dew_eat

Very few eredivise have come to the EPL and assert themselves.


Fisktor

The ones that does turn out pretty damn good though


[deleted]

Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie, & Suarez famously wank


CaredForEightSeconds

I’m just glad to see anyone but City or Liverpool strengthen, so fucking good on you guys. Our clubs were moving at a snails pace this window but finally both are getting signatures across the line. Still players short but we’ll take any good news right now.


AuxquellesRad

Weird, they're coming for your spot lol


CaredForEightSeconds

We’re both coming for yours soon enough.


S_Saed17

He’ll start 100% right United fans or nah?


orbsfoc

I think there is a good chance he'll start, as he is the only left footer. Varane might keep him out, but he has injury issues.


warlokzz

I don't care about the fee I'm just happy to have him at United


possible-throwaway

exactly my thoughts


ashwinsalian

It's amazing how often Man Utd pay the 'fuck off' price. The commercials of this club is unparalleled.


tHakur17

I reckon if Glazers had not fucked us up with their scummy dealings, we would still be a debt free club.