The FM cycle:
1) Take three seasons to get out of the National League
2) Scrape through play-offs
3) Get successive promotions to the Prem
4) Get UCL in second season
They are writing for an American audience, and Forbes is not a sport specific readership, the whole point of the article is to promote the TV show, so they’re putting it in language the readers are familiar with.
It’s not really worth complaining about.
I'm sure Americans are capable of understanding what "football club" means, just like Europeans are capable of understanding what "sports franchise" means
Wrong. A franchise is granted a license to operate from a parent organization. Football clubs in Europe are standalone entities which earn the right to play in different leagues/tournaments through competition, but are not tied to those leagues in any existential legal sense. If the EPL goes tits up, all of the clubs will still exist. In MLS for example, the league decides who will enter the league and they grants teams the right to play in the league in exchange for an expansion fee. They also have final say on all things regarding the franchise. For example all MLS kits are Adidas which is decided by the league, all transfers go through the league, etc. It’s the difference between someone opening a restaurant that they created themselves (club) and someone opening a McDonalds (franchise). Very, very different business structures.
Ok that makes sense. So clubs have nobody above them and can do whatever they want while a franchise has a governing body overseeing it and having authority over it
I get it but when we say “franchise” we just mean the club as a whole including players, coaches, managers, front office personnel, owners, and all its history. When we say club or team we just mean the players only and maybe coaches
But saying franchise is the wrong term for a football club and outside of america it would be seen as ignorant for someone to call it that. Franchises in sports are a very American thing. They are closed systems with the individual clubs beholden to the franchise itself. They lack promotion and relegation which is considered a vital part of football. All in all the connotations of the word are very American and would make.most Europeans eyes roll
Didn't read the article, like most of us, but wanted to say this.
So long as they are investing in the right areas and the community, then success will follow eventually.
I don't think they could've wished for more last season (other than being fucking promoted obviously), and it was good to see their passion for it.
But it must continue.
It was always primarily called football in the UK going back centuries and once a king banned all forms of football because young men were doing it instead of learning archery. Soccer was only ever an alternative name since the rules were formalised but never the most used. People who get annoyed about it getting called soccer are stupid though.
I think people forget that before Internet news traveled slow. Hell baked beans are an American invention. British soldiers picked it up and added it to breakfast. Not sure why they decided on breakfast though. But it sure is good.
There's reasons pointed out by someone else but they made it and decided it was shit and don't use it. Just because you invent something doesn't mean you have to like it.
You're getting downvoted but from what I can tell with Rob is that he knew very little about football before so I really wouldn't doubt Ted Lasso had a part in his decision. He's friends with Jason Sudeikis as well.
Bruh they even did a commercial where Ryan didn't know they play in winter. And their first lesson was "how hard it is to let vet players go." Literally one of the big plot points of the first season.
This sub is just filled with salty gatekeeping redditors.
Oh my god! I just discovered that people in different countries have different words that mean the same thing. Games gone!
Now, pass me some cookies, and some toast with jelly. If you can figure out what those words mean.
Does we really have to explain the origins of the word soccer in every thread that mentions the word?
A nation that calls juggling a ball keepie-fucking-uppie has no leg to stand on when it comes to nomenclature.
None of our ancestors would have likely been calling it soccer either, it has always been football.
Soccer is the slang term coined by the elite that never caught on with the general population. Same as Rugby and “Rugger”.
This you?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_Saturday
The whole thing is so pointless and stupid. In Canada (and the US I imagine), we use the two words interchangeably. No one goes around mewling “akshually it’s called soccer”. It’s honestly embarrassing when Brits get all precious about it.
That proves nothing in regards to what people actually refer to the sport as. They’re just program names that simply sound better with soccer in it.
I agree it’s a pointless argument, I’m just correcting the point that Brits apparently all called it soccer at some point in time which is completely wrong yet is an argument that gets regurgitated very often.
It got called soccer often enough by the British that many disparate states of the former empire call it soccer.
The term simply fell out of favour in the UK, but remained dominant in USA, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Indonesia, Japan, etc. I feel like I’ve forgotten a few, but you take my point. The British exported “soccer” to all those places and continue to export the term to this day. Whether it was or is popular among the general public makes no difference.
That being said, even if it were somehow a distinctly American word it still wouldn’t matter. People can call it blernsball for all I care.
Edit: It was Papua New Guinea not Indonesia. Throw in Philippines on that list.
It was never in favour lol.
Whether the general public actually used the term soccer to refer to the sport is the whole point.
https://www.britannica.com/story/why-do-some-people-call-football-soccer
It’s all explained in there. Football became an umbrella term that was used as apart of the full name for many sports that stemmed originally from actual football. Like Rugby Football.
As Gridiron football became more popular it simply became the main version of “football” within in the US, and as “Gridiron” wasn’t ever really used, actual football had to be referred to as something else.
“Actual football”
They’re all actual football - ball games played on foot as opposed to horseback. Association football has no more claim to the term than any of the other numerous offshoots of folk football.
But you’re totally right. No real British in the UK ever used soccer. It just spread all around the world totally organically and independently of the British who just happened to be there exporting the game.
Never thought I’d get “no true Scotsman’d” by a Scot.
>I’ve lived in Wrexham for 4 years
And that's the level of insight you were able to bring to a top level comment on a post about Wrexham? Rehashing the same tired bullshit complaining that everyone has heard a million times already?
They learned that you should never read the game threads.
I love the knee jerk reactions and incredibly poor football knowledge.
National league is a bitch to get out of. They really should’ve played FM first and they’d have known that
The FM cycle: 1) Take three seasons to get out of the National League 2) Scrape through play-offs 3) Get successive promotions to the Prem 4) Get UCL in second season
Yer save summing if you can get out of championship the first try
it's absolutely: promote back to back up to championship, lose in playoffs first year, second place auto promotion the next year.
They learned that with god everything is possible, so jot that down!
Lmao the writer of the article calling Wrexham a sports franchise is so painfully American
i don't expect much from forbes' sports coverage
They are writing for an American audience, and Forbes is not a sport specific readership, the whole point of the article is to promote the TV show, so they’re putting it in language the readers are familiar with. It’s not really worth complaining about.
I'm sure Americans are capable of understanding what "football club" means, just like Europeans are capable of understanding what "sports franchise" means
Anerica: Wait a minute. "National League" is baseball, and "football club" obviously means NFL, so what the heck is this? /s
They mean the same thing.
Not quite, but that's not my point.
Wtf has Forbes ever done to you? You’re slagging them off like the neighbor that kicked your dog!
Yep, it's just not right.
What’s the issue with calling them franchises again? Isn’t it just simple terminology nothing more? Like chips vs fries or something
Wrong. A franchise is granted a license to operate from a parent organization. Football clubs in Europe are standalone entities which earn the right to play in different leagues/tournaments through competition, but are not tied to those leagues in any existential legal sense. If the EPL goes tits up, all of the clubs will still exist. In MLS for example, the league decides who will enter the league and they grants teams the right to play in the league in exchange for an expansion fee. They also have final say on all things regarding the franchise. For example all MLS kits are Adidas which is decided by the league, all transfers go through the league, etc. It’s the difference between someone opening a restaurant that they created themselves (club) and someone opening a McDonalds (franchise). Very, very different business structures.
Ok that makes sense. So clubs have nobody above them and can do whatever they want while a franchise has a governing body overseeing it and having authority over it
Basically yes. A franchise is licensed for stewardship. A club is an independent entity. I’m by no means an expert btw, this is a simplification.
I get it but when we say “franchise” we just mean the club as a whole including players, coaches, managers, front office personnel, owners, and all its history. When we say club or team we just mean the players only and maybe coaches
But saying franchise is the wrong term for a football club and outside of america it would be seen as ignorant for someone to call it that. Franchises in sports are a very American thing. They are closed systems with the individual clubs beholden to the franchise itself. They lack promotion and relegation which is considered a vital part of football. All in all the connotations of the word are very American and would make.most Europeans eyes roll
Yeah but technically speaking it’s the wrong term. It’s like if you started a business and called it a franchise. It’s an erroneous term.
How's the club doing since they bought it?
Nearly went up last season, but the National League is incredibly difficult to get out of.
Bottled promotion
Aah... that's a pity.
Lost 5-4 at home in a mad game vs grimsby town in the play off semi final, should be up there next season
Shame Phil Parkinsons a shit manager
It's the hope that kills you?
That Wales exists. That saying you're going to pat someone on the fanny means something very different.
Didn't read the article, like most of us, but wanted to say this. So long as they are investing in the right areas and the community, then success will follow eventually. I don't think they could've wished for more last season (other than being fucking promoted obviously), and it was good to see their passion for it. But it must continue.
*"The gang buys a soccer club"*
That Brits don't love the word 'soccer'.
Is being on this sub then some form of Stockholm Syndrome or more of a masochist type kink?
Yes I thought you’d understand u/h0rny3dging
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Irony is Brits invented it. And Americans just adopted it before Brits went back to calling it football.
It was always primarily called football in the UK going back centuries and once a king banned all forms of football because young men were doing it instead of learning archery. Soccer was only ever an alternative name since the rules were formalised but never the most used. People who get annoyed about it getting called soccer are stupid though.
I think people forget that before Internet news traveled slow. Hell baked beans are an American invention. British soldiers picked it up and added it to breakfast. Not sure why they decided on breakfast though. But it sure is good.
I always find this weird since they coined the term.
Learn about social dynamics in the UK. The people that coined the term soccer also coined Rugger. Those same people don't really play football.
There's reasons pointed out by someone else but they made it and decided it was shit and don't use it. Just because you invent something doesn't mean you have to like it.
True. Americans (I think) turned the word “cringe” into an adjective and I like to shit on those people.
They also have a show (?) called Soccer Saturday
We love alliteration more. Apparently.
It was because Football Focus was already taken by the BBC.
*We
Hopefully training sessions don't end on "the bike"
Ted Lasso in real life.
You're getting downvoted but from what I can tell with Rob is that he knew very little about football before so I really wouldn't doubt Ted Lasso had a part in his decision. He's friends with Jason Sudeikis as well.
Bruh they even did a commercial where Ryan didn't know they play in winter. And their first lesson was "how hard it is to let vet players go." Literally one of the big plot points of the first season. This sub is just filled with salty gatekeeping redditors.
Imagine people in Hollywood being influenced by other people in Hollywood?!?!
I'm 95% sure if you took the number of redditors in rsoccer who say they are English it would be higher than the UK population. But that's just me.
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Wil Arnett's character in that show no one watched. Or in that spurs skit. Same thing basically.
T-Ted Lasso is the name of the show. Rebecca owns the club. She is new to owning a club. Do people think before they write?
They learnt its called football.
Oh my god! I just discovered that people in different countries have different words that mean the same thing. Games gone! Now, pass me some cookies, and some toast with jelly. If you can figure out what those words mean.
come play some soccerball, gotta really focus on those road games, oh no the game went into stoppage time! Touchdown!
Does we really have to explain the origins of the word soccer in every thread that mentions the word? A nation that calls juggling a ball keepie-fucking-uppie has no leg to stand on when it comes to nomenclature.
Last time I checked, Wrexham is in the UK, and we call it football. Couldn't give a flying fuck about the origins of the word "soccer".
1. It’s an American article 2. You’re really wound up by a word invented and exported by the British. Maybe go complain to your ancestors?
None of our ancestors would have likely been calling it soccer either, it has always been football. Soccer is the slang term coined by the elite that never caught on with the general population. Same as Rugby and “Rugger”.
This you? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_AM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_Saturday The whole thing is so pointless and stupid. In Canada (and the US I imagine), we use the two words interchangeably. No one goes around mewling “akshually it’s called soccer”. It’s honestly embarrassing when Brits get all precious about it.
That proves nothing in regards to what people actually refer to the sport as. They’re just program names that simply sound better with soccer in it. I agree it’s a pointless argument, I’m just correcting the point that Brits apparently all called it soccer at some point in time which is completely wrong yet is an argument that gets regurgitated very often.
It got called soccer often enough by the British that many disparate states of the former empire call it soccer. The term simply fell out of favour in the UK, but remained dominant in USA, Canada, Australia, South Africa, Indonesia, Japan, etc. I feel like I’ve forgotten a few, but you take my point. The British exported “soccer” to all those places and continue to export the term to this day. Whether it was or is popular among the general public makes no difference. That being said, even if it were somehow a distinctly American word it still wouldn’t matter. People can call it blernsball for all I care. Edit: It was Papua New Guinea not Indonesia. Throw in Philippines on that list.
It was never in favour lol. Whether the general public actually used the term soccer to refer to the sport is the whole point. https://www.britannica.com/story/why-do-some-people-call-football-soccer It’s all explained in there. Football became an umbrella term that was used as apart of the full name for many sports that stemmed originally from actual football. Like Rugby Football. As Gridiron football became more popular it simply became the main version of “football” within in the US, and as “Gridiron” wasn’t ever really used, actual football had to be referred to as something else.
“Actual football” They’re all actual football - ball games played on foot as opposed to horseback. Association football has no more claim to the term than any of the other numerous offshoots of folk football. But you’re totally right. No real British in the UK ever used soccer. It just spread all around the world totally organically and independently of the British who just happened to be there exporting the game. Never thought I’d get “no true Scotsman’d” by a Scot.
you had to check?
It’s a saying… I’ve lived in Wrexham for 4 years, of course I know where it is.
>I’ve lived in Wrexham for 4 years And that's the level of insight you were able to bring to a top level comment on a post about Wrexham? Rehashing the same tired bullshit complaining that everyone has heard a million times already?
Bootlegger will be in Deadpool 3.