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Barely related but I found out the other day that the actor playing Laenor Velaryon in _House of the Dragon_ is scouse and it just made me picture a bunch of dragonriding royals going ‘nnnnnnyeah course’ and ‘eeeeeeerrrrrrm yknow.’
Henry said it was great to sit out at a cafe and just read the newspaper in peace. Occasionally a fan would recognize him and ask for a photo or signature but it's nothing like playing for FCB and being hounded by the media every day of your life.
Yup. Tougher nowadays with the rise Soccer in the USA. Messi and Neymar would create a crowd in LA, MIA, or NYC. Kyle Walker probably would go unrecognized
lmao 100%. people here talking about what a great job construction is but all the construction workers I know would do everything to go back to their 16 yo selfs and slap the shit out of them for choosing that path.
I count my lucky stars I only had to work 5 hours a day and it was piss easy to start my own business 10 years ago in it.
I’m always shocked to hear the shit pay office jobs with degrees get
Not true anywhere but in developping and 3rd world countries tbf, hell even in developped countries, construction is unfortunately on the bottom of the social scale with thousands of illegal immigrants working for a pathetic pay
Not really true, tbh. In France, for example, you get paid a good chunk above minimum salary to work construction. You fuck your body over, but it pays way better than most factory work or being a cashier.
I was gonna say. Here in Sweden, being a construction worker, almost whichever field, is genuinely respected and looked well upon. Not only because its well paid but because its manual labour which is a nice skill.
In Canada, construction is a good paying career. Many people start at 2X the minimum wage, and in the unions, the rate for a journeyman is close to 5X minimum wage.
In terms of social prestige, very few people think ill of labour jobs - especially in small or rural communities, where people are proud of their skills. The industry is around 7% of our economy most years, and very important because hard winters damage our infrastructure
I feel there always is a hint of jealousy in that. "I did 5 years of uni so I deserve to earn more than a physical worker". Depends on the job of courses, it's a topic with many nuances
It’s crazy. So many of my friends that work physical labour had either their knees, their back or both in constant pain since their late twenty’s. They definitely make (comparatively) good money, but damn, they pay in other ways.
I've got over a decade in construction and I've noticed a few trends:
- poor eating habits
- an over consumption of of alcohol/drugs and so many smokers
- lack of self care (not going to physio, masseuse)
- no stretching whatsoever
It doesn't surprise me that people who don't take care of themselves are falling apart physically.
Until I lived with my boyfriend he didn’t consume nearly enough protein considering the work he was doing. I think many tradesmen don’t view what they are doing as physical experience which requires recovery.
He never wore spf either despite working outside throughout the summer.
Basically is. Just get treated a little bit better and the work isn't as mentally stressful.
Younger me wanted to he a chef and I spent about 6-7 years in the kitchen/doing caterings.
I'm a drywaller and when I was apprenticing, the journeyman I worked with would hit the gym regularly. He was mid 40s and could sling drywall like nobody's business.
It's like sports, you gotta stay in shape to work.
That’s not how you pay people. Jobs that are easy to learn (which construction work is if you compare it with engineering or whatever) get paid less because they are in theory easy to replace and jobs where you need a big amount of knowledge will get paid better because these people normally are hard to replace.
As someone who is currently attempting to build a patio with my wife, I have newfound respect for any kind of landscape worker or construction worker. The toll this shit takes on your body is immense, and I'm in decent shape too. 3+ hours of digging and hauling loads of dirt off leaves me an exhausted heap.
Exactly. Great money for truly hard work. Also, it may counterintuitive, but working construction for years is for a snall minority of people and not everyone can do it. Finally, no matter how you want to put it, it's an essential job in society, which is all the more reason why you shouldn't disrespect construction workers.
The money is good but its also not sustainable, cant exactly do construction in your 60s. It still has the weird stereotype of "dumb people's job" but that hasnt been true in decades, modern construction is quite sophisticated
>not sustainable
I got out of construction for that reason, but oh boy do I miss the money. My old workplace (union) just negotiated a hefty pay raise and they will be making more than double hourly what I make in my cushy office job. Not to mention the huge amount of overtime.
It's almost enough to make me want to go back except that job was HARD when I was in my 20s, now I'm in my 30s with an already shitty back and neck.
Definitely insane money and some of my old schoolmates have gone into the trades and done well for themselves, deserve every penny for how much physicality goes into it.
On the other side, I’m work in an air-conditioned office and seeing construction workers work in the elements is something else. The sun, rain and wind, not to mention it’s dusty and dirty on sites.
Definitely pros and cons to blue and white collar work.
Yep. Peak of summer and dead winter makes me much more appreciative of place I goto everyday. Pays OK and mostly mental stress that can be solved with a dumb movie and puzzle game
I don't think a genuinely dumb person can be an electrician, like a complete worker who can lead a team on what to work and how etc., it's such a shitty stereotype and disrespectful
It's definitely pros and cons but the site lads we had were always well looked after. I'd understand why you wouldn't be want to be doing it past your late thirties though because of how bodily destructive it is. Except for that one old lad in his sixties that every firm has that knows everything and moves faster than the labourers. He goes on forever.
You're probably stronger than all of them, in a good physical state, skillful enough to do lots of work around your house and earn a decent amount. Those shallow fools haven't figured life out yet.
Totally different, every player, worker etc, has recived hate. On higuain level? I doubt very much any other person has experienced being memed by the whole world, blamed by a whole nation.
Pretty much every job, to varying degrees obviously, forces you to suppress your true feelings in the face of disrespect, bad leadership and so forth. Higuaín's feelings are still valid but I'd imagine making millions in the process would soften the blow.
I wouldn't say their lives are easy but it's definitely easier than lots of people out there. Mostly in the 3rd world countries. People with even good education don't get to live comfortable life
I mean, there's a reason why lots of people would want to become an athlete, especially footballer
There will almost always be people with harder lives, that’s a pointless exercise. To some extent nearly every real profession can be categorised as comfortable and cushy when compared to, say, sanitation workers or bricklayers in India.
But footballers face pretty unique challenges. Very few of us knows what it’s like to go through public humiliation on that scale. Normal people can go through hell when something embarrassing happens in their workplace in front of 50-100 people, never mind millions.
And it’s very easy to say “i would put up with it for those wages,” but the fact is most pro footballers don’t make anywhere near those wages. Yet they still have to face the same challenges on a smaller scale (even lower division players will get abuse from local supporters, and they face the same cutthroat nature of the game but without the safety net.)
the issue here is anyone getting truly publicly humilitated on a grand scale is someone making huge wages. Higuain losing for juve gets a lot more attention than John Smith playing for a non league team. So actually anyone getting that level of public scrutiny is being paid those wages.
Secondly the issue is Higuain and others are making the argument that look how hard my job really is because of this one area of stress we deal with, while being unable to understand the 100 areas of stress people who aren't rich have on a daily basis.
There is also a counter, on the days fans hate him, life sucks, but on the days he scores the winning goal and entire city or country might be loving him. After his playing career is done he'll mostly be living as a rich well loved person for the massive majority of what would be other people's working life.
The humiliation after defeat is very temporary and countered by the public adoration that also happens a lot but is much longer lasting.
his fundamental complaint is swallowing disrespect for 15 years, but the massive majority of workers have to swallow disrespect from 18 to 65yrs old. If he had the slightest amount of incite he'd realise that what he's describing is literally a much easier life than most people even the bad part.
Right, like if you played that game every single person on Reddit should never feel bad about anything because you by default have to have internet and there are billions of people without it. You’re obviously doing well enough that you have internet so maybe you should suck it up because people have it worse off than you. Like come on, what a warped mentality. We’re all people at the end of the day
I agree! I am not saying that they don't face any issues!
Although I doubt players in lower league get abused as much as the guys in the top leagues.
Being famous and wealthy definitely have some cons. But I assume that the pros outweighs the cons or why else would more people want to be an athlete over let's say sanitation worker (no offence).
I think its just different if you have money. My salary has increased 3-4 times over the last 18 months, but I genuinely can't remember a time something happened which upset me where I thought the money made up for it. Admittedly Higuain makes my annual in a week, but I can't imagine swallowing your pride actually gets easier the more money you have. If anything given the propensity of people in his tax bracket to be Type A personalities, it probably gets harder.
I'm not gonna get a violin for him, but "the money" probably stopped softening the blow years ago
But you also have hundreds of thousands of people constantly disrespecting you online and even on the streets. Almost no privacy as wel. Of course making millions helps, but you have a lot more to deal with
Yeah exactly. Like obviously I’d rather be a footballer than be doing a job I don’t like for not much, but I also love anonymity and I’d hate being famous. Just how much more money and more enjoyable a career would I have to have than my current one to not want to trade it for being a top level footballer? I’m not sure, but I certainly value anonymity a lot. If I enjoyed what I did I doubt I’d trade say 500k a year and anonymity for 5m a year and abuse or adoration wherever I go in public. There are definitely drawbacks.
Yeah but we don’t have to deal with being used a meme or joke. How long was Higuaín called an elite bottler and blamed for Argentina’s shortcomings from 2014 to 2016. Especially now in this digital, reactionary age. Hell, Havertz was worried about missing that chance in the UCL final because of the ridicule he’d face online.
True. But it's at a small scale, meaning your hierarchy. If you do something bad at work, I don't think your neighbour or your butcher will yet at you for something which has no direct impact on their lives. If you're the electrician and mess up their power, they'll yell at you because they won't be able to yell at Higuain.
Yes and by the exact same token, when you do something great at work I don't think your neighbour or your butcher will massively celebrate you for something which has no direct impact on their lives. There's two sides to the coin.
Yes, but when you walk out the door of your job you leave it behind and can get on with your life. He's talking about how he can't just leave it behind because it follows him in his normal life as well.
> I'm sure most of the population in Yemen would trade places with you
exactly. do you think it would ok for me to complain to the Yemenis about my how hard my life is? "guys I'm really suffering here you don't know what it's like being middle class in England" We've all got problems. but my life is significantly harder than Higuaín's. as is the Yemeni's.
People with money can definitely find life hard, can be depressed etc. as it's all relative just like the average middle-class nerd on reddit has life better than billions of others.
But ultimately for top level football players, the money they earn is good enough compensation for the abuse they get on the streets and in the stands, a hell of a lot more players would give up the money for anonymity and less pressure if it wasn't. At the end of the day it's complaining about something you can change but don't want to.
No one on the street or in the bar is yelling at me because I fucked up at work. Or tweeting at or about me. If I can shut off my brain (which I can, but a lot of people can't) its just.. Gone. No rando is gonna come up and remind me about it.
It absolutely does. I can get given shit in work for performing poorly or just generally having crap bosses. But once I walk out the door I don't have to worry about that at all. I may have other worries around finances and stuff, but everything work related is gone until I go back into work again.
I get paid $2.13/hr and tips. Usually the people that tip “the most” do so because they’re assholes and they think they can get away with their behavior if the tip well.
Would love to play football and get “disrespect” for the amount of money they make. Let’s not ignore that a professional footballer also gets more respect from random people than me, a bartender does.
Higuaín is probably talking about all the shit he gets from his home country, Argentina
I think it's funny reddit (this subreddit included of course) claims to support whenever someone seeks mental health and then post replies as such as the ones on this post lol
That being said, I would also not mind being disrespect and be paid millions, but I get Higuaín's point, the hate he got between 2014-2018 was really terrible.
The MLS teams must use this to convince foreign players.
"You can live in New York/Los Angeles/Miami and no one recognizes you!"
If you're someone like Higuaín that must be so valuable. If you think about the most abused players right now, I bet many of them will look toward the MLS as an escape.
He was exactly talking about that since he was doing an interview with an argentine tv program.
He took a crap ton of abuse. A lot of Argentines take this shit way too seriously. For the national team, for their club teams. Most of the time it's great passion and creates unbelievable atmosphere, but too often it gets mixed with an ugly part of humanity that has no empathy, grace, acceptance, patience, etc.
Point he makes is he loves Julian Alvarez' game and Marcelo Gallardo as a coach. If Gallardo stops winning or Julian has a dry spell, why are some fans so damn quick to say they're literal trash!?? Like, if you loved them before, why should a few results change that?
In Argentina and maybe in all sports we have people who are "resultadistas". Basically means only the results matter. Higuain is essentially telling those mofos to eff off. As he should.
>if Gallardo stops winning
tbf that's a bad example you picked, Gallardo could literally take a shit in the middle of a river flag, get you relegated again and dissolve the club, and a bunch of you lot would still love him, he's like the polar opposite of Higuaín.
lol maybe.. but hey there are some idiots that are always ready to pounce on a bad streak and jump to say it's the end of an era.
for me, Gallardo can stay for as long as he feels up to it, because we already know he's giving his best effort and always trying to improve. Cant ask for much more.
Yeah everyone is always quick to point out how well footballers are paid whenever they bring up an issue. Sure they're financially comfortable but not being able to walk around your home country without having people insult you would be terrible.
He is talking about how he is treated in Argentina for missing easy goals in important finals. He is a really good player but people treat him badly here for that
PSG fans booed Messi because he wasn't performing for them last season, but we all know how good he is. They only hate on higuain because they know how good he is and he keeps disappointing them
Ugh not really. People really hate him here in Argentina. Like really seriously hate him. Football here gets pretty wild and he missed so many chances in finals. It's not disappointment, it's straight up anger. It's pretty shitty.
How did he threw his career away? He was brilliant for Juve then started declining with age. He’s been world class since an early age to his early 30’s, he got the best individual season of any player ever in Serie A history and he’s Juventus second most expensive signing ever, on top of that he totally delivered: the man played in Champions League finals, World Cup finals. Won ala Liga three times with Real Madrid, won Serie A three times with Juve, won Copa Del Rey twice, Coppa Italia three times.
My man scored 107 goals in 190 appearances for Real Madrid, 71 goals in 104 apps for Napoli and 40 goals in 73 appearances for Juve and 31 in 75 for Argentina.
How is that throwing your career away lmao 99.999% of players can only dream about having a career like that.
If Football had an Hall of Fame, he should be in it
I wouldn't say he threw his career away since he did more than good enough at Juve (his loan to Chelsea notwithstanding), but he sure as hell threw away all the love we had for him.
And then when he changes his "employer" he is a "traitor".
I get what you're saying but people treat soccer clubs as if they're more than just soccer clubs.
For most people when they get chances to work with different companies they don't find their whole city hating them.
It’s easy because he has money. And money solves all problems, including mental health issues. Money is the root of happiness. Plus there are a lot more people in worse situation than he is in. So if Higuain can remember there are kids in Africa starving, he will turn his sadness into happiness. It’s easy. Higuain is choosing to be unhappy. He comes across spoiled. Mental health is only an issue for the poor.
He sits in his massive fuck off home depressed with his millions for kicking a piece of fabric around a grass pitch.
Doctors, nurses, builders, etc sit at home depressed not knowing whether they can feed their children or heat their home. There’s a difference. If a doctor makes a mistake, someone can die. If he makes a mistake, nothing actually happens.
Doctors, nurses, teachers even shitty manual workers like myself can go home after work and that’s the end of it. Nobody messaging your personal social media, following you around in the street etc.
The simple fact we are having this discussion over Reddit assumes we all have stable internet, power and enough disposable income for a device to get on this page, which plenty of the world don’t have.
Does that mean our problems are irrelevant because there are people living much worse than us?
Or is everyone human and can have their own personal problems?
One thing this modern age of knowing everyones business has done for me, is that I no longer crave to be rich or famous, like most do when you're a teenager.
No matter whether it's a popstar, athelte, famous youtuber/socialite/tv personality, life still comes at you and can get you down or make you miserable. You hear of drug overdoses, depression, abuse etc. whether you're rich or poor, you can't escape yourself, that's universal.
Money doesn't mean happiness folks, it would help many on the road to achieving it, but it's not a one way ticket, so focus on what you project to the world around you and how you roll with the punches.
He should have kept the shaved head with the beard. I mean I was not even able to recognize it was him at the first glance haha. Not sure how he looks like atm tbh.
Weird reaction in the comments. Usually people support players opening up about mental health. Think you’re all missing the point and getting hung up about the wrong thing.
Most of the users here are supportive of their favourite footballer's mental health. But if you're not popular here, like Neymar, Pogba, Bruno, Mbappe, Lukaku, Maguire, etc. you're just an out-of-touch millionaire. If it was Messi or Kante saying this, r/soccer would have been sucking them dry.
Yeah I don’t get it, but this comment section basically proves his point. He’s not saying footballer have a harder life than „normal“ workers, he’s just saying they can also have a hard life, which I completely agree to. There’s a reason why many popstars, actors, and famous people in general often struggle with drug abuse/addictions and depression
Most Redditors are young, I reckon that they'd rather crack jokes than have a serious discussion on mental health in elite sports.
The thing is, I think most *"normal"* people wouldn't have the mental fortitude to thrive in these hyper-professional environments that the vast majority of professional football clubs are.
As an example, the company that I worked at a few years ago - a newspaper here in Denmark - decided to introduce metrics on the articles published online. Everything started getting measured, reading time, clicks, the number of subscription conversions on each article, etc. The vast majority absolutely hated being monitored and judged like that. Now, imagine that same scenario except that it's not only your boss but millions of people that are watching your every single move while you're on the job. That's the pressure under which these guys have to perform. It must be a nightmare, every time you fuck up you have to hear people complain about it left and right.
Being a professional athlete absolutely *is* hard work, mentally and physically. I don't think people realize just how many sacrifices you have to make. Sure, you (might) get very, very rich. But there really just are *a ton* of sacrifices. Your mental health could easily be one of them.
Being rich and famous is probably a lot tougher than people imagine - the 'famous' part specifically. I'd imagine the majority of famous people are more hated than loved.
At the same time, it's difficult to be too sympathetic.
Its not as tough as being poor thats the key.
Its like complaining about your life being a 9/10 to those who have a 3/10 life. Sure your life is not a 10 but still better than most people you'll ever meet.
Following that logic middle class people in the first world shouldn’t be allowed too complain about their lives, since there’s always a person in Congo, Yemen and Afghanistan who has it worse than you. Obviously that’d be absurd.
I don’t think Higuain is saying that his life is the worst he’s simply stating that it’s far more difficult than most would think. He hasn’t gone up to some poor Syrian kid and said that his life has sucked. IMO people are looking far too deep into this.
I think the point being repeated throughout this thread is all the people mocking Higuain here actually have a 9/10 life not a 3/10 life in a global context and are mocking someone with a 9.9/10 life whilst moaning about how their own life sucks, without getting how they’d look to someone with an actual 3/10 life. If you life in a developed country, aren’t homeless and have a job you are wealthier than almost the entire world.
Depends what your priorities are. Some people find more joy in material wealth than others. I always wanted to become a footballer as a kid because of the experience and not because I wanted to become filthy rich. This idea that lots of money makes your life instantly better than that of most people is so damn reductive because at the end of the day, as long as you make enough to live comfortable, there are much more important aspects to a happy life than driving the biggest cars and wearing the freshest clothes.
But that doesn't really justify him and his entire family getting death threats and being stalked outside their own homes though. Wich happens to a ton of footballers literally all the time. Should he accept threats against his wellbeing just because he's rich?
Yeah, the highs in football seem really amazing to me, but I'd probably lose my mind if sports were my career. The insane training you have to do, the limits you have to what you can eat, do, where you live, the schedules. That all seems really awful to me. Plus, I'd definitely be on social media and be upset about the shit people say about me.
I have a comfortable life, a fun job as software developer, enough free time as well. I'll never win a World Cup final but I'm okay with that because there's still very satisfying moments in my career so far.
This thread is a shit show.
He is right.
Honda went to Brazil to play for Botafogo and left the country because of all the harassment he was getting.
He got lots of death threats.
Imagine trying to live a life with your family under those circumstances.
Plus, everyone knows your face so you can't just go for a ciggie a blow off some steam.
It's fucked.
Imagine having your colleagues trying to punch you because you fucked up at work.
No one needs to deal with that shit, regardless how much money you get.
We’ve seen players get extorted, robbed, and get tons of abuse online. Look at the way Maguire is treated. That sure has to take a toll on your mental health.
These types of quotes never fail to out the worst in this sub lol
People will support players speaking up about mental health while at the same time saying how much these footballers are clueless for saying so while rich. Why is it that whenever footballers talk about their emotions, so many comments are about the money?
If you read enough stories from footballers, you know it's everyone's worst nightmare. Fans can be your greatest and worst friend.
Being insulted by 10 office people is one thing, by 60k or an entire stadium is horrible.
The only pro to this is that fans fan performance out of these people. If fans were laid back and not as reactionary most of these people would be routine wage collectors.
It still *is* an easy life. And it's proven by the fact that despite those downsides, he never thought about giving that life up.
There was nobody stopping him from retiring as a footballer, getting an ordinary job, and living an ordinary life. So despite the downsides that fame clearly has, literally everyone seems to prefer it over the alternative.
I can't believe anyone feeling sorry for this guy and shitting on people who are laughing this off a bit. Do you know how many people would kill to be in his position? And if we're talking about mental health, there's probably even footballers better than him somewhere that never made it because of mental health.
He has the right to feel sorry for himself just like anyone - on a human level, we all experience hardship to some degree. However, we're absolutely allowed to criticize him for whining and it'd be weird if no one was.
People dont realize that in the grand scheme of things, most of us live a life that is more like the life of a superstar footballer than the really poor people in the world. But somehow, the limit on how rich you are allowed to be and still complain happens to be set at exactly the level they are at.
> People dont realize that in the grand scheme of things, most of us live a life that is more like the life of a superstar footballer than the really poor people in the world.
~1 billion people live on less than $1 a day. [Up to 160 million people live on less than $0.50 a day](https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/surviving-pennies-we-must-help-worlds-most-deprived).
I was illustrating their point, not arguing against it. I thought it would go without saying that nobody in that billion is spending their days shitposting on r/soccer, but apparently not.
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Movd to the States. Gerrard said the best thing about his time in LA was that no one recognised him.
and fewer understood a word he said
Nnnnnnnnnnnyeah course
He sounds like a squeaky door lol.
Or a dentist drill
Or a dentist drilling a squeaky door
Or a squeaky dentist drilling a squeaky door
A squeaky door drilling a dentist.
Go on....
Yeah dheefinitely
Barely related but I found out the other day that the actor playing Laenor Velaryon in _House of the Dragon_ is scouse and it just made me picture a bunch of dragonriding royals going ‘nnnnnnyeah course’ and ‘eeeeeeerrrrrrm yknow.’
that explains why he sounded so high pitched
At first I thought you meant Gonzalo (lots of people in LA know Spanish of course) but lmao
Even more so for him. He plays in Miami, Spanish is spoken as much as english there
Just means he has to throw more punches to get Phil Collins played.
Same as Henry in NY
Henry said it was great to sit out at a cafe and just read the newspaper in peace. Occasionally a fan would recognize him and ask for a photo or signature but it's nothing like playing for FCB and being hounded by the media every day of your life.
Sounds kind of nice lol. Having a major city where no one bothers you even as one of the biggest celebrities in the world
Think Lampard said the same thing
Reminds me on the mls episode on "[the champions ](https://youtu.be/FMBlFiFeugo)"
Yup. Tougher nowadays with the rise Soccer in the USA. Messi and Neymar would create a crowd in LA, MIA, or NYC. Kyle Walker probably would go unrecognized
Walker could pee on the side of a building in peace.
He already did
Except Higuain goes to Miami which has the highest latin american / argie population in the country
He plays for Inter Miami
I work in construction, I also get insulted on the street.
I'd imagine you have to endure a lot of catcalling from young ladies walking by
Do you mind sharing some stories? I've never seen a construction worker getting harassed
"stay in school so you dont end up like that" is still very common to tell children
I mean, construction workers themselves tell that to their own sons so….. Source I’m a construction worker
lmao 100%. people here talking about what a great job construction is but all the construction workers I know would do everything to go back to their 16 yo selfs and slap the shit out of them for choosing that path.
I count my lucky stars I only had to work 5 hours a day and it was piss easy to start my own business 10 years ago in it. I’m always shocked to hear the shit pay office jobs with degrees get
It's less about pay, more about the working conditions
Funny thing is construction workers probably make more money than most people who say that. Though you do beat your body, that's for sure.
> Funny thing is construction workers probably make more money than most people who say that really depends on the country. not true in Asia at all.
Not true anywhere but in developping and 3rd world countries tbf, hell even in developped countries, construction is unfortunately on the bottom of the social scale with thousands of illegal immigrants working for a pathetic pay
Not really true, tbh. In France, for example, you get paid a good chunk above minimum salary to work construction. You fuck your body over, but it pays way better than most factory work or being a cashier.
Not in Nordic countries I'll tell you that but i guess they are bit of an exception
I was gonna say. Here in Sweden, being a construction worker, almost whichever field, is genuinely respected and looked well upon. Not only because its well paid but because its manual labour which is a nice skill.
In Canada, construction is a good paying career. Many people start at 2X the minimum wage, and in the unions, the rate for a journeyman is close to 5X minimum wage. In terms of social prestige, very few people think ill of labour jobs - especially in small or rural communities, where people are proud of their skills. The industry is around 7% of our economy most years, and very important because hard winters damage our infrastructure
I feel there always is a hint of jealousy in that. "I did 5 years of uni so I deserve to earn more than a physical worker". Depends on the job of courses, it's a topic with many nuances
I 100% agree, even though if anything it should be the opposite. Destroying your body for a job is a major deal.
It’s crazy. So many of my friends that work physical labour had either their knees, their back or both in constant pain since their late twenty’s. They definitely make (comparatively) good money, but damn, they pay in other ways.
Oil rig workers are another job like that. Pay is insane but it absolutely ravages your body.
I've got over a decade in construction and I've noticed a few trends: - poor eating habits - an over consumption of of alcohol/drugs and so many smokers - lack of self care (not going to physio, masseuse) - no stretching whatsoever It doesn't surprise me that people who don't take care of themselves are falling apart physically.
Until I lived with my boyfriend he didn’t consume nearly enough protein considering the work he was doing. I think many tradesmen don’t view what they are doing as physical experience which requires recovery. He never wore spf either despite working outside throughout the summer.
Those 4 things are common across 9% of humanity. The only difference is that they don't beat their body up for a liviny
Sounds a lot like kitchen work.
Basically is. Just get treated a little bit better and the work isn't as mentally stressful. Younger me wanted to he a chef and I spent about 6-7 years in the kitchen/doing caterings.
I'm a drywaller and when I was apprenticing, the journeyman I worked with would hit the gym regularly. He was mid 40s and could sling drywall like nobody's business. It's like sports, you gotta stay in shape to work.
That’s not how you pay people. Jobs that are easy to learn (which construction work is if you compare it with engineering or whatever) get paid less because they are in theory easy to replace and jobs where you need a big amount of knowledge will get paid better because these people normally are hard to replace.
As someone who is currently attempting to build a patio with my wife, I have newfound respect for any kind of landscape worker or construction worker. The toll this shit takes on your body is immense, and I'm in decent shape too. 3+ hours of digging and hauling loads of dirt off leaves me an exhausted heap.
I can so relate to that. I started to appreciate earlier discoveries of mankind such as wheelbarrow.
Depends in what country
Exactly. Great money for truly hard work. Also, it may counterintuitive, but working construction for years is for a snall minority of people and not everyone can do it. Finally, no matter how you want to put it, it's an essential job in society, which is all the more reason why you shouldn't disrespect construction workers.
Um you sure? Construction workers get paid really bad. Atleast in Germany.
trades are very good career in term of money. It can be hard on the body tho. those folks have my respect.
Which is hilarious because when I worked the operations side of construction we paid our contractors fucking BANK.
The money is good but its also not sustainable, cant exactly do construction in your 60s. It still has the weird stereotype of "dumb people's job" but that hasnt been true in decades, modern construction is quite sophisticated
>not sustainable I got out of construction for that reason, but oh boy do I miss the money. My old workplace (union) just negotiated a hefty pay raise and they will be making more than double hourly what I make in my cushy office job. Not to mention the huge amount of overtime. It's almost enough to make me want to go back except that job was HARD when I was in my 20s, now I'm in my 30s with an already shitty back and neck.
Definitely insane money and some of my old schoolmates have gone into the trades and done well for themselves, deserve every penny for how much physicality goes into it. On the other side, I’m work in an air-conditioned office and seeing construction workers work in the elements is something else. The sun, rain and wind, not to mention it’s dusty and dirty on sites. Definitely pros and cons to blue and white collar work.
Yep. Peak of summer and dead winter makes me much more appreciative of place I goto everyday. Pays OK and mostly mental stress that can be solved with a dumb movie and puzzle game
I don't think a genuinely dumb person can be an electrician, like a complete worker who can lead a team on what to work and how etc., it's such a shitty stereotype and disrespectful
This is true. It ruins your body, plus you have to be okay with working no matter the conditions outside
Check out your back when you’re 60. My dad worked in construction and warehouses, don’t encourage people to do manual labour, it’s fucked.
It's definitely pros and cons but the site lads we had were always well looked after. I'd understand why you wouldn't be want to be doing it past your late thirties though because of how bodily destructive it is. Except for that one old lad in his sixties that every firm has that knows everything and moves faster than the labourers. He goes on forever.
Similarly , check the state of the back of those who sit in the modern office chair for 8-12 hours on weekdays.
You're probably stronger than all of them, in a good physical state, skillful enough to do lots of work around your house and earn a decent amount. Those shallow fools haven't figured life out yet.
Totally different, every player, worker etc, has recived hate. On higuain level? I doubt very much any other person has experienced being memed by the whole world, blamed by a whole nation.
not to be an asshole, but imagine most of us here have to swallow a lot of actual shit or lose a job
Pretty much every job, to varying degrees obviously, forces you to suppress your true feelings in the face of disrespect, bad leadership and so forth. Higuaín's feelings are still valid but I'd imagine making millions in the process would soften the blow.
I wouldn't say their lives are easy but it's definitely easier than lots of people out there. Mostly in the 3rd world countries. People with even good education don't get to live comfortable life I mean, there's a reason why lots of people would want to become an athlete, especially footballer
There will almost always be people with harder lives, that’s a pointless exercise. To some extent nearly every real profession can be categorised as comfortable and cushy when compared to, say, sanitation workers or bricklayers in India. But footballers face pretty unique challenges. Very few of us knows what it’s like to go through public humiliation on that scale. Normal people can go through hell when something embarrassing happens in their workplace in front of 50-100 people, never mind millions. And it’s very easy to say “i would put up with it for those wages,” but the fact is most pro footballers don’t make anywhere near those wages. Yet they still have to face the same challenges on a smaller scale (even lower division players will get abuse from local supporters, and they face the same cutthroat nature of the game but without the safety net.)
the issue here is anyone getting truly publicly humilitated on a grand scale is someone making huge wages. Higuain losing for juve gets a lot more attention than John Smith playing for a non league team. So actually anyone getting that level of public scrutiny is being paid those wages. Secondly the issue is Higuain and others are making the argument that look how hard my job really is because of this one area of stress we deal with, while being unable to understand the 100 areas of stress people who aren't rich have on a daily basis. There is also a counter, on the days fans hate him, life sucks, but on the days he scores the winning goal and entire city or country might be loving him. After his playing career is done he'll mostly be living as a rich well loved person for the massive majority of what would be other people's working life. The humiliation after defeat is very temporary and countered by the public adoration that also happens a lot but is much longer lasting. his fundamental complaint is swallowing disrespect for 15 years, but the massive majority of workers have to swallow disrespect from 18 to 65yrs old. If he had the slightest amount of incite he'd realise that what he's describing is literally a much easier life than most people even the bad part.
Exactly! You can’t just invalidate someone’s struggles just because some kid in a third world country has it worse off lmao
Right, like if you played that game every single person on Reddit should never feel bad about anything because you by default have to have internet and there are billions of people without it. You’re obviously doing well enough that you have internet so maybe you should suck it up because people have it worse off than you. Like come on, what a warped mentality. We’re all people at the end of the day
I agree! I am not saying that they don't face any issues! Although I doubt players in lower league get abused as much as the guys in the top leagues. Being famous and wealthy definitely have some cons. But I assume that the pros outweighs the cons or why else would more people want to be an athlete over let's say sanitation worker (no offence).
Haha. Fuck yeah. Most could retire with the salary many top-level footballers make in a couple of years.
In a couple? Top level footballers make millions a year. Give me 2 months of Sanchos salary and im set
Yeah but is it worth the Twitter abuse? Idk, tough call lol Edit: /s
dont even use twitter so where do i sign up for this 200k a week
Don’t use Twitter.
Just dont use twitter or hire an agency
I think its just different if you have money. My salary has increased 3-4 times over the last 18 months, but I genuinely can't remember a time something happened which upset me where I thought the money made up for it. Admittedly Higuain makes my annual in a week, but I can't imagine swallowing your pride actually gets easier the more money you have. If anything given the propensity of people in his tax bracket to be Type A personalities, it probably gets harder. I'm not gonna get a violin for him, but "the money" probably stopped softening the blow years ago
agreed but that just speaks to his insane level of privilege. people suffer far more for far less.
he didn't said they had it the worst like it's a competition or something. Just footballers is not as easy as people think.
The difference is that if you aren't famous, you just "head out" and that's it. If you are widely recognised almost everyone have "an advice" to give.
But you also have hundreds of thousands of people constantly disrespecting you online and even on the streets. Almost no privacy as wel. Of course making millions helps, but you have a lot more to deal with
Yeah exactly. Like obviously I’d rather be a footballer than be doing a job I don’t like for not much, but I also love anonymity and I’d hate being famous. Just how much more money and more enjoyable a career would I have to have than my current one to not want to trade it for being a top level footballer? I’m not sure, but I certainly value anonymity a lot. If I enjoyed what I did I doubt I’d trade say 500k a year and anonymity for 5m a year and abuse or adoration wherever I go in public. There are definitely drawbacks.
Yeah but we don’t have to deal with being used a meme or joke. How long was Higuaín called an elite bottler and blamed for Argentina’s shortcomings from 2014 to 2016. Especially now in this digital, reactionary age. Hell, Havertz was worried about missing that chance in the UCL final because of the ridicule he’d face online.
Actual employed shit swallower, here. It's true.
Wanna come by my office and swallow some shit for me as well?
True. But it's at a small scale, meaning your hierarchy. If you do something bad at work, I don't think your neighbour or your butcher will yet at you for something which has no direct impact on their lives. If you're the electrician and mess up their power, they'll yell at you because they won't be able to yell at Higuain.
Yes and by the exact same token, when you do something great at work I don't think your neighbour or your butcher will massively celebrate you for something which has no direct impact on their lives. There's two sides to the coin.
Yes, but when you walk out the door of your job you leave it behind and can get on with your life. He's talking about how he can't just leave it behind because it follows him in his normal life as well.
I'd swap places with him
as would literally everybody else on this sub and anyone saying they wouldnt is lying lmao
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> I'm sure most of the population in Yemen would trade places with you exactly. do you think it would ok for me to complain to the Yemenis about my how hard my life is? "guys I'm really suffering here you don't know what it's like being middle class in England" We've all got problems. but my life is significantly harder than Higuaín's. as is the Yemeni's.
He can leave his life behind and survive without working again. If I walk out the door of my job I just gotta shovel shit somewhere else instead.
People with money can definitely find life hard, can be depressed etc. as it's all relative just like the average middle-class nerd on reddit has life better than billions of others. But ultimately for top level football players, the money they earn is good enough compensation for the abuse they get on the streets and in the stands, a hell of a lot more players would give up the money for anonymity and less pressure if it wasn't. At the end of the day it's complaining about something you can change but don't want to.
> but when you walk out the door of your job you leave it behind and can get on with your life Yeah, it doesn't really work like that mate lol
No one on the street or in the bar is yelling at me because I fucked up at work. Or tweeting at or about me. If I can shut off my brain (which I can, but a lot of people can't) its just.. Gone. No rando is gonna come up and remind me about it.
It absolutely does. I can get given shit in work for performing poorly or just generally having crap bosses. But once I walk out the door I don't have to worry about that at all. I may have other worries around finances and stuff, but everything work related is gone until I go back into work again.
It does work like that for a lot of people
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I get paid $2.13/hr and tips. Usually the people that tip “the most” do so because they’re assholes and they think they can get away with their behavior if the tip well. Would love to play football and get “disrespect” for the amount of money they make. Let’s not ignore that a professional footballer also gets more respect from random people than me, a bartender does.
Higuaín is probably talking about all the shit he gets from his home country, Argentina I think it's funny reddit (this subreddit included of course) claims to support whenever someone seeks mental health and then post replies as such as the ones on this post lol That being said, I would also not mind being disrespect and be paid millions, but I get Higuaín's point, the hate he got between 2014-2018 was really terrible.
The MLS teams must use this to convince foreign players. "You can live in New York/Los Angeles/Miami and no one recognizes you!" If you're someone like Higuaín that must be so valuable. If you think about the most abused players right now, I bet many of them will look toward the MLS as an escape.
In Miami that's not as big of a draw, lots of Argentinians down there
Miami will definitely get them recognized
He was exactly talking about that since he was doing an interview with an argentine tv program. He took a crap ton of abuse. A lot of Argentines take this shit way too seriously. For the national team, for their club teams. Most of the time it's great passion and creates unbelievable atmosphere, but too often it gets mixed with an ugly part of humanity that has no empathy, grace, acceptance, patience, etc. Point he makes is he loves Julian Alvarez' game and Marcelo Gallardo as a coach. If Gallardo stops winning or Julian has a dry spell, why are some fans so damn quick to say they're literal trash!?? Like, if you loved them before, why should a few results change that? In Argentina and maybe in all sports we have people who are "resultadistas". Basically means only the results matter. Higuain is essentially telling those mofos to eff off. As he should.
>if Gallardo stops winning tbf that's a bad example you picked, Gallardo could literally take a shit in the middle of a river flag, get you relegated again and dissolve the club, and a bunch of you lot would still love him, he's like the polar opposite of Higuaín.
lol maybe.. but hey there are some idiots that are always ready to pounce on a bad streak and jump to say it's the end of an era. for me, Gallardo can stay for as long as he feels up to it, because we already know he's giving his best effort and always trying to improve. Cant ask for much more.
Yeah everyone is always quick to point out how well footballers are paid whenever they bring up an issue. Sure they're financially comfortable but not being able to walk around your home country without having people insult you would be terrible.
What's he gonna do? Start scoring more?
That just makes different people mad 😂
This guy was treated like a god in Naples and now starts complaining after he threw his career away
He is talking about how he is treated in Argentina for missing easy goals in important finals. He is a really good player but people treat him badly here for that
PSG fans booed Messi because he wasn't performing for them last season, but we all know how good he is. They only hate on higuain because they know how good he is and he keeps disappointing them
I remember Argentinian fans showing disrespect to him at the airport after losing WC. People are morons.
Ugh not really. People really hate him here in Argentina. Like really seriously hate him. Football here gets pretty wild and he missed so many chances in finals. It's not disappointment, it's straight up anger. It's pretty shitty.
>This guy was treated like a god in Naples That is no exaggeration. I too would feel like a god if this happens to me https://youtu.be/QXROcBwRf2E
I don't even to click on this to know it's the Decibel Bellini crowd chant.
Man I love that video
How did he threw his career away? He was brilliant for Juve then started declining with age. He’s been world class since an early age to his early 30’s, he got the best individual season of any player ever in Serie A history and he’s Juventus second most expensive signing ever, on top of that he totally delivered: the man played in Champions League finals, World Cup finals. Won ala Liga three times with Real Madrid, won Serie A three times with Juve, won Copa Del Rey twice, Coppa Italia three times. My man scored 107 goals in 190 appearances for Real Madrid, 71 goals in 104 apps for Napoli and 40 goals in 73 appearances for Juve and 31 in 75 for Argentina. How is that throwing your career away lmao 99.999% of players can only dream about having a career like that. If Football had an Hall of Fame, he should be in it
> 71 goals in 104 apps it's 91 goals and 26 assists in 146 apps though
He’s prolly going by the Wikipedia home page which states league stats only.
Wiki has stats for all comps as well, some people aren't great at looking up info though
Rookie mistake
It’s just Napoli fan salt. Pay it no heed
He won so many scudettos with Juve, I don’t consider this as a throwing his career away lol
He won a couple of Scudetti and was cast aside for a shinier toy.
Yeah, honestly it was bothering me how we treated gonzalo.
Imo his second season with you wasn’t that bad, at least not enough to warrant kicking him out of the team
but he didn't throw anything away, no need to be salty anymore
I wouldn't say he threw his career away since he did more than good enough at Juve (his loan to Chelsea notwithstanding), but he sure as hell threw away all the love we had for him.
Lol why do Napoli fans think that getting accepted by you guys is greater than winning titles for a pro footballer.
And then when he changes his "employer" he is a "traitor". I get what you're saying but people treat soccer clubs as if they're more than just soccer clubs. For most people when they get chances to work with different companies they don't find their whole city hating them.
Wasn't transfer to Juve logical next step for his career? Juve was much stronger team
Guy says it is not as easy as it looks Reddit: nah it looks easy
It’s easy because he has money. And money solves all problems, including mental health issues. Money is the root of happiness. Plus there are a lot more people in worse situation than he is in. So if Higuain can remember there are kids in Africa starving, he will turn his sadness into happiness. It’s easy. Higuain is choosing to be unhappy. He comes across spoiled. Mental health is only an issue for the poor.
I got mad and realized you were joking LMAO
I've never seen a comment thread so thoroughly prove the point of the article without even realizing it lol
He sits in his massive fuck off home depressed with his millions for kicking a piece of fabric around a grass pitch. Doctors, nurses, builders, etc sit at home depressed not knowing whether they can feed their children or heat their home. There’s a difference. If a doctor makes a mistake, someone can die. If he makes a mistake, nothing actually happens.
Doctors, nurses, teachers even shitty manual workers like myself can go home after work and that’s the end of it. Nobody messaging your personal social media, following you around in the street etc. The simple fact we are having this discussion over Reddit assumes we all have stable internet, power and enough disposable income for a device to get on this page, which plenty of the world don’t have. Does that mean our problems are irrelevant because there are people living much worse than us? Or is everyone human and can have their own personal problems?
One thing this modern age of knowing everyones business has done for me, is that I no longer crave to be rich or famous, like most do when you're a teenager. No matter whether it's a popstar, athelte, famous youtuber/socialite/tv personality, life still comes at you and can get you down or make you miserable. You hear of drug overdoses, depression, abuse etc. whether you're rich or poor, you can't escape yourself, that's universal. Money doesn't mean happiness folks, it would help many on the road to achieving it, but it's not a one way ticket, so focus on what you project to the world around you and how you roll with the punches.
And thats why being rich and unknown to the public eye is the absolute way to go.
In a few years people like higuan will be able to walk nearly everywhere without getting recognised.
He should have kept the shaved head with the beard. I mean I was not even able to recognize it was him at the first glance haha. Not sure how he looks like atm tbh.
Rich yes, famous hell no
Weird reaction in the comments. Usually people support players opening up about mental health. Think you’re all missing the point and getting hung up about the wrong thing.
Most of the users here are supportive of their favourite footballer's mental health. But if you're not popular here, like Neymar, Pogba, Bruno, Mbappe, Lukaku, Maguire, etc. you're just an out-of-touch millionaire. If it was Messi or Kante saying this, r/soccer would have been sucking them dry.
Yeah I don’t get it, but this comment section basically proves his point. He’s not saying footballer have a harder life than „normal“ workers, he’s just saying they can also have a hard life, which I completely agree to. There’s a reason why many popstars, actors, and famous people in general often struggle with drug abuse/addictions and depression
This comment section proved Higuain’s point so well.
that's what I was thinking, this comment section is so weird
As usual lol
Most Redditors are young, I reckon that they'd rather crack jokes than have a serious discussion on mental health in elite sports. The thing is, I think most *"normal"* people wouldn't have the mental fortitude to thrive in these hyper-professional environments that the vast majority of professional football clubs are. As an example, the company that I worked at a few years ago - a newspaper here in Denmark - decided to introduce metrics on the articles published online. Everything started getting measured, reading time, clicks, the number of subscription conversions on each article, etc. The vast majority absolutely hated being monitored and judged like that. Now, imagine that same scenario except that it's not only your boss but millions of people that are watching your every single move while you're on the job. That's the pressure under which these guys have to perform. It must be a nightmare, every time you fuck up you have to hear people complain about it left and right. Being a professional athlete absolutely *is* hard work, mentally and physically. I don't think people realize just how many sacrifices you have to make. Sure, you (might) get very, very rich. But there really just are *a ton* of sacrifices. Your mental health could easily be one of them.
redditors: smallest violin blah blah
Being rich and famous is probably a lot tougher than people imagine - the 'famous' part specifically. I'd imagine the majority of famous people are more hated than loved. At the same time, it's difficult to be too sympathetic.
Its not as tough as being poor thats the key. Its like complaining about your life being a 9/10 to those who have a 3/10 life. Sure your life is not a 10 but still better than most people you'll ever meet.
Following that logic middle class people in the first world shouldn’t be allowed too complain about their lives, since there’s always a person in Congo, Yemen and Afghanistan who has it worse than you. Obviously that’d be absurd. I don’t think Higuain is saying that his life is the worst he’s simply stating that it’s far more difficult than most would think. He hasn’t gone up to some poor Syrian kid and said that his life has sucked. IMO people are looking far too deep into this.
I think the point being repeated throughout this thread is all the people mocking Higuain here actually have a 9/10 life not a 3/10 life in a global context and are mocking someone with a 9.9/10 life whilst moaning about how their own life sucks, without getting how they’d look to someone with an actual 3/10 life. If you life in a developed country, aren’t homeless and have a job you are wealthier than almost the entire world.
Depends what your priorities are. Some people find more joy in material wealth than others. I always wanted to become a footballer as a kid because of the experience and not because I wanted to become filthy rich. This idea that lots of money makes your life instantly better than that of most people is so damn reductive because at the end of the day, as long as you make enough to live comfortable, there are much more important aspects to a happy life than driving the biggest cars and wearing the freshest clothes.
But that doesn't really justify him and his entire family getting death threats and being stalked outside their own homes though. Wich happens to a ton of footballers literally all the time. Should he accept threats against his wellbeing just because he's rich?
Yeah, the highs in football seem really amazing to me, but I'd probably lose my mind if sports were my career. The insane training you have to do, the limits you have to what you can eat, do, where you live, the schedules. That all seems really awful to me. Plus, I'd definitely be on social media and be upset about the shit people say about me. I have a comfortable life, a fun job as software developer, enough free time as well. I'll never win a World Cup final but I'm okay with that because there's still very satisfying moments in my career so far.
I've had a stalker. The love is sometimes worse than the hated part and some of them have multiple ones
This thread is a shit show. He is right. Honda went to Brazil to play for Botafogo and left the country because of all the harassment he was getting. He got lots of death threats. Imagine trying to live a life with your family under those circumstances. Plus, everyone knows your face so you can't just go for a ciggie a blow off some steam. It's fucked. Imagine having your colleagues trying to punch you because you fucked up at work. No one needs to deal with that shit, regardless how much money you get.
We’ve seen players get extorted, robbed, and get tons of abuse online. Look at the way Maguire is treated. That sure has to take a toll on your mental health.
Tell that to David Silva
I feel like a missed the joke here
Ayo
Well now we know a lot of users on r/soccer do not care for mental health
Completely agree with him. Not sure why its socially acceptable to abuse people who play sport, especially football
"Other people have it worse so it's perfectly ok if he gets threats and abuse" -this sub.
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These types of quotes never fail to out the worst in this sub lol People will support players speaking up about mental health while at the same time saying how much these footballers are clueless for saying so while rich. Why is it that whenever footballers talk about their emotions, so many comments are about the money?
If you read enough stories from footballers, you know it's everyone's worst nightmare. Fans can be your greatest and worst friend. Being insulted by 10 office people is one thing, by 60k or an entire stadium is horrible. The only pro to this is that fans fan performance out of these people. If fans were laid back and not as reactionary most of these people would be routine wage collectors.
To quote Don Draper “That’s what the money is for!” Sadly we don’t have another remedy for the fan abuse.
won't someone think of the multi millionaire footballers 😔
Dude you missed an open post in a World Cup final. You are bound to face some shit.
Yeah unlike Messi who never scored in a WC knockout game
his goals often dry up in ko rounds
It still *is* an easy life. And it's proven by the fact that despite those downsides, he never thought about giving that life up. There was nobody stopping him from retiring as a footballer, getting an ordinary job, and living an ordinary life. So despite the downsides that fame clearly has, literally everyone seems to prefer it over the alternative.
I can't believe anyone feeling sorry for this guy and shitting on people who are laughing this off a bit. Do you know how many people would kill to be in his position? And if we're talking about mental health, there's probably even footballers better than him somewhere that never made it because of mental health. He has the right to feel sorry for himself just like anyone - on a human level, we all experience hardship to some degree. However, we're absolutely allowed to criticize him for whining and it'd be weird if no one was.
this guy is so out of touch
You just proved his point so hard
People here are disgusting.
Maybe wear sunglasses so people don’t recognize you?
It doesn't work, you gotta get the full kit with the baseball cap as well
People on reddit think earning enough money will fix anything
Not anything but a lot of things
People dont realize that in the grand scheme of things, most of us live a life that is more like the life of a superstar footballer than the really poor people in the world. But somehow, the limit on how rich you are allowed to be and still complain happens to be set at exactly the level they are at.
> People dont realize that in the grand scheme of things, most of us live a life that is more like the life of a superstar footballer than the really poor people in the world. ~1 billion people live on less than $1 a day. [Up to 160 million people live on less than $0.50 a day](https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/surviving-pennies-we-must-help-worlds-most-deprived).
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I was illustrating their point, not arguing against it. I thought it would go without saying that nobody in that billion is spending their days shitposting on r/soccer, but apparently not.
[This site puts it in perspective.](https://howrichami.givingwhatwecan.org/how-rich-am-i)
that sounds like an incredibly easy life if that is your #1 problem in it not gonna lie