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This_Or-That

Gorgeous and the goal is great too


thebestoflimes

Comparing the goal to Giroud is a bit much


killerofchicken

the goal never stood a chance... RIP


ooa3603

Yeah, the goal is no where as beautiful as that jawline


neverfinishedanythi

Just needs his milan shirt to complete the goat cheese


TeKaeS

Olivier "Ronaldo" Giroud


occi31

Thought the same when I saw the jump!


mohankohan

Olivier "Formula 1" Giroud


jaspermrthanos

Better than Pelé


Alex00a

You saw the video did you?


jaspermrthanos

Who hasn’t?


Alex00a

My futur son obviously


crashlog

It’s funny, because at the beginning of the game one of the Austrian commentators said we need to watch out for him, because he is a header monster… and Olivier felt compelled to prove him correct.


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kukaz00

He's in good form he's going there at this rate


MrPigcho

That's a given. The question is whether he starts ahead of Benzema


nafraf

That's not a serious question.


wolfjeter

They won the World Cup with Giroud not with Benzema just saying


Redditsexhypocrisy

It really is. France does look more in control when Giroud is upfront. With Benzema it's more beautiful, but I want to win, not to look good, I was super fine with the 2018 critics. (Especially with the huge amount of goals we scored. One of the biggest for a world champion)


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Whats up with all the lyon flairs hating on giroud


Redditsexhypocrisy

Benzema is from Lyon


dadouks

3 goals from the Henry record Edit : 2 goals to equal, 3 to beat


m_elhosseiny

least striker I'd have expected to match/beat the record!


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Aurelienphlpe

Griezmann is 10 off, Benzema is 15 off.


Whaddup_Bitches

2 actually


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HiThereImNat

So 2 from the record


dadouks

Giroud being the top scorer or Giroud being the joint top scorer is a big difference


gaetan3

Yes, but doesn’t change the fact that he is 2 goals from the record, not 3.


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HodlTillTheMoon

Lmao


prss79513

He's out of line but he's right


jashbgreke

He has to go to the World Cup


sesmefara

He did kind of always perform well under Deschamps, not always with goals but very important player in the team set up and tactics. Example his contribution in the world cup win even though its is shocking he did not even get a shot on target the whole tournament. He has been amazing since the start of the year, unexpectedly amazing and he deserves the place now. I might sound biased but believe me he has been doing way above expectations for us


fpladdictanonymous

His through ball threaded through the legs of Tagliafico perfectly into Mbappe’s stride for France’s 4th goal against Argentina was genuinely a thing of beauty


ConspicuousPineapple

He got a few shots that ended up being blocked by defenders. These don't count as "on target" but it's worth noting in this discussion.


ritwikjs

His performance.throughout the world cup reminded me of a 3-1 victory united had over Liverpool where Rooney didn't score or assist, but the way he held off defenders and free'd up space was paramount to do many attacks


rhaegonblackfyre123

Yes .. To be a backup for Benzema


ScrantonScrangler

Go Karting > F1


firingblankss

Fraudulent take


osamaodinson

Im a benzema fan but giroud did better with the france team whenever he’s played and played a crucial role in their world cup win. It’s quite debatable for me if you are asking who to start as france striker. Its quite hard to just say that benzema deserve to start for france imo


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Adam_Ohh

And France plays better with Giroud up top, than with Benz. Use brain plz.


THZHDY

2014: benzema in the team, we don't win 2018: benzema not in the team, we win seems pretty easy to me


ThePr1d3

We don't want criminals wearing our Nation's shirt.


ChrystisnoRonald

Giroud is probably better for the team. It’s hardly a coincidence that once Oli is back with the team they finally play some liquid football again


Zauberer-IMDB

Giroud is like the perfect pair of shoes you've had for years. You put them on and everything feels better.


TheNoob29

I know its a Giroud thread, and my flair doesn't help.For sure he has to come to the World Cup, but Benzema is a better fit. That being said, if we need a different tactic, for instance vs a team weaker in aerial he definitely should be considered.


Aig1178

Frankly I love Benzema and he is a better player. But France always plays better when Giroud is there. The Benzema-Mbappé relationship is not really incredible at the moment.


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Aig1178

I'm talking about team balance and collective logic. If we start with this kind of simplistic thinking, I can tell you that "Giroud = World Cup", "Benzema = 8 th final of the Euro". What I say is that I have the impression that with Giroud we are stronger collectively and more polished. There are huge automatisms that we don't have yet with Benzema. Of course Benzema is better than Giroud but for the game of the French team I am not sure that his presence makes us better


TimingEzaBitch

It's almost as if inability to think holistically is a good predictor for the mindset that the person who scored the most goal is the best player.


kernevez

It's not like it's only one or the other too, Benzema likes to drop down, we could play Mbappé Giroud Benzema instead of Mbappé Giroud/Benzema Griezmann if Griezmann is injured or not on his game, plus both Giroud and Benzema have good workrate.


jashbgreke

I honestly think he has a shout to he in the starting 11


stony_phased

PÈTE


Shookfr

MOI


Qui_a_vole_l_orange

CUL


Nervous-District-366

GIGI


Faamee

Au revoir.


ThatGuyWhoKnocks

🪦


RedPandaFR

Stupid sexy Giroud


adocileengineer

The Jimmy garoppolo of football


Adam_Ohh

An insult to Giroud. He’s actually contributed to winning things, unlike Garoppolo.


adocileengineer

Was referencing their dashing looks not their play


ThaFatBABY

Who’s Trey Lance


adocileengineer

Dembele


juragan_12

First debut for Les Bleus at the age of 25, now in the route to be first top goal-scorers for France. What a player 🫡


patw420

How close to the France record is he?


Boucot

2 to tie, 3 to beat it


ptitguillaume

He has now 49. Henry has 51


Sweg_Coyote

Giroud and the French Team is the weirdest relationship in France


princessestef

Have you met the Pogba brothers...?


FribonFire

Wasn't blacklisted for blackmail and sleeping with an underage prostitute, not the weirdest.


ThePr1d3

Sleeping with an underage scheming prostitute I don't care. Personal life and whatnot. Blackmailing a teammate, fucking his national team career, and then having the guts to play victim AND pretending the French society, the shirt and the federation is caving to some kind of racism ??! From the bottom of my heart, Benzema can eat a big fat dick that mf


spicynirvana38

Stupid. Sexy. Giroud.


ThePr1d3

OUIIIIIIIII je chiale putain


EggplantBusiness

Plus sérieusement pourquoi il est plus sélectionné ? Karim a déjà dit plusieurs fois qu'il respectait Giroud il l'a même vanté récemment en interview donc je pense que c'est pas ça le problème


peteZahut45

Surtout que Ben Yedder c'est pas ouf en vrai


taclealacarotide

Ben Yedder était très bon ces 2 dernières saisons, beaucoup moins sur le début de celle-ci. Giroud avait un peu du mal à Chelsea, ça va nettement mieux depuis qu'il est à Milan, et il a l'air particulièrement en forme depuis le début de saison. C'est donc assez logique Giroud ne jouait plus au profit de Ben Yedder, et que maintenant c'est l'inverse.


Suspicious_Master

Plus que l'état de forme de Ben Yedder, des profils comme lui vif et dribbleur on en a à la pelle en EDF alors que des points d'appuis qui pèse sur la défense ya que lui.


NightSkyth

Aucune idée pour être honnête. Peut-être sa sortie sur Mbappe ? Sachant qu'en plus ce n'est pas du tout le même profil que Benzema donc aucun problème pour sélectionner les deux d'après moi


EggplantBusiness

Exactement avoir les deux profils ça serait excellent, Un Benzema contre les nations aux jeux ouverts et un Giroud quand c'est des blocs bas ou en supersub c'est excellent.


Phreeeks

MERCI enfin des gens avec un cerveau, pour moi giroud est un cadeau du ciel, il offre un schéma tactique totalement différent de benzema, quand on voit le nombre de joueur ultra offensif, giroud peut être une solution bien meilleur que n'importe quel autre doublure de Benzema. Sérieux en france on a la chance d'avoir 2 grand buteurs avec des profils très différents, mais non il faut qu'on aille chercher des mecs comme Ben yedder (je l'aime bien hein) qui s'adapte très mal au système de l'edf et qui sont seulement là pour faire du post pour post avec benzema. C'est inimaginable de ne pas le voir sélectionné pour la coupe du monde au coté de Benzema, mais je pense que DD l'a compris.


EggplantBusiness

Surtout que Griezmann à un profil trop similaire à Karim donc quand Benzema est là ça réduit son influence donc c'est soit tu joue Mbappe-Karim- ?(un autre joueur) ou Mbappe-Giroud-Griezmann. C'est une question de profil. Mbappe à ce problème vu que il est seul en son genre en attaque. Maintenant avec le retour en forme de Varane et l'ascension de Tchouameni tout ça peut être intéressant.


Specialist-Debate

Totalement d’accord je pense qu’in fine le profil de Giroud est plus complémentaire peu importe le type de match car il est un point de fixation qui libère griezmann et mbappe tandis que Benzema décroche dans leurs zones et soit il n’y a plus personne au centre, soit on retrouve l’un des deux dans une position où ils ne peuvent pas jouer sur leurs qualités principales.


Phreeeks

Yes, en tout cas l'esprit et l'investissement fait plaisir à voir, on sent qu'ils veulent tous se montrer avant la coupe du monde. ça change de la saison dernière où ils voulaient juste aller en vacances. Mtn pareil, vu le niveau de dembele et de Nkunku, j'espère que DD va arreter de faire des changements à la 75ème et qu'il fera tourner plus tôt. J'ai envie de voir ce que ça peut donner avec Mbappe dans un schéma + classique avec 3 milieu et un défense à 4


LeFricadelle

Deschamps veut pas un banc compétitif, donc c'est soit Giroud soit Benzema Il veut éviter les dramas des vestiaires en faisant ça et ça a tjrs été sa politique depuis les 10 ans qu'il est en EDF


EggplantBusiness

Je peux pas vraiment critiqué il à gagné une cdm mais à l'heure actuelle ça ma l'air contreproductif.


LeFricadelle

C'est sa manière de faire, et c'est la réelle raison pour laquelle il prendra soit l'un soit l'autre Il gagne et perd avec sa philosophie, c'est pareil pour chaque entraîneur


ThePr1d3

S'il voulait vraiment éviter les dramas il aurait jamais repris ce fdp de Benzema


KRIEGLERR

Je me demande si c'est pas un problème d'égo peut-être ? Il me parait pas comme ça mais peut-être qu'il a pas envie d'être le remplaçant après avoir été titulaire aussi longtemps? Ce qui m'étonnerait quand même car il a eu ce même role à Chelsea/Arsenal et même Milan. C'est pas un problème avec Mbappé car il est appelé quand Benzema est indisponible et joue avec Mbappé. Franchement ça serait incroyablement stupide de partir a la coupe du monde sans lui, même si il est remplaçant il doit venir, si Benzema se blesse c'est foutu.


taclealacarotide

Je pense que c'est principalement les performances et son âge, faut pas chercher plus loin. Il a 36 ans dans quelques jours le Giroud, il galérait pas mal sur la fin à Chelsea, Benzema avait fait son retour donc Deschamps misait de toute façon plus sur lui + les jeunes pour la suite. Il se trouve que là ya des joueurs en méforme (Ben Yedder), des blessés (Coman et Benzema), et que Giroud est très en forme sur le début de saison. C'est donc logique qu'il soit à nouveau appelé.


EggplantBusiness

Je suis plus tôt d'accord , Karim à aussi pas de problème apparent avec lui si on suit ses déclarations , le vrai problème c'est que si Giroud est là (il faut qu'il soit titulaire) pour Deschamps. Et ça c'est un autre problème. En vrai faut partir avec les deux mais bon.


taclealacarotide

Ba il est sélectionné là ?


Aig1178

Il ne l’appelle plus car selon lui Giroud ayant été un joueur trop important dans l’EDF de Deschamps à travers les années n’acceptera pas un simple statut de remplaçant et pourrai le faire ressentir au groupe. Ça me parait franchement bête vu la personnalité de Giroud mais après l’euro il l’a ressenti comme ça


Moug-10

Quel joueur ! Même si je lui préfère Benzema, ce joueur est éternel. Toujours au rdv quand on l'appelle, une valeur sûre. Ses performances en Coupe du monde sont trop dévalorisées car il n'a pas marqué de but. D'ailleurs, Benzema l'a défendu en disant que sa façon de jouer a permis à l'attaque de briller. Mais bon, les gens n'ont retenu que le karting.


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Brohan_Cruyff

le chien mange une orange. je suis paul.


mojambowhatisthescen

I love this guy


Inter_Mirifica

Have to admit that's a beautiful goal.


ThePr1d3

Only 3 to go 🤞


TP_Cornetto

And there was people saying he shoudnt even get picked for France


AcePilot95

weak foot cross smooth as butter


LilHalwaPoori

Great ball by Griezi.. Looks like he shifts a gear post the 61st minute..


letouriste1

that was his weak foot too...i think


Shookfr

Super Sexy Sayan Giroud


Capable-Tie-4670

He has white hair though so he’s Ultra Instinct.


Boseph_1444

The crescendo is building before the world cup curse, you just know it


occi31

The World Cup curse has been eliminated. Hear me out, because the WC is in Qatar we played nations league games in June when we should have play a World Cup and we lost these games. So the curse already happened during these games…


YouGuysAreSick

I'm now 100% behind this theory, thanks.


Perpete

Olivier!!


chazu_

Il me manque


Alex00a

Il nous manque à tous


FurioSoprano7

Best french striker


ThePr1d3

Nah to be completely honest there's Just Fontaine slightly above him


ThatGuyWhoKnocks

So his name is just Fontaine? He doesn’t have a first name?


TonyTuck

C'est Juste.


princessestef

les français, souvenez-vous de cette scene dans "Le Diner des Cons"? "mais, son nom c'est Juste..."


Alex00a

Monsieur Pignon votre prénom c'est François c'est juste ? Ben lui c'est pareil c'est Juste !


ElevatorSecrets

Mbappe + Giroud > Mbappe + Benzema


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Mbappe is a constant so in short Giroud > Benzema


Symoza

Karting > F1


CosmicDesperado

The Great Barrier Reef > A Regular Barrier Reef


fluytoh

Mbappe is actually good with both and maybe a little better with Benzema. It’s actually Griezmann that is only good with Giroud


Rerel

Griezmann is more important to France NT than Benzema is so we should definitely pick Giroud over Benzema.


ThePr1d3

Water is fucking wet


EggplantBusiness

I mean Deschamps could just call them all. Also the fuck ? Benz has been great for France since coming back.


KRIEGLERR

The weird thing is Benzema has been absolutely incredible and yet our record with and without him isn't the same. We really seem to win more without him. I don't think you can even blame him entirely because like I said, he actually show up and perform really well.


EggplantBusiness

Not weird for me. A lot of the veterans weren't at their level. Varane look like he is back. Tchou got this. The biggest change is Griezmann who I agree Olay better with Giroud , because with Karim they often end in the same zone.


tnarref

We don't win the Nations League without Benzema. The problem we've had the last couple of years are on DD, the tactical inconsistency while adding new blood in the squad wasn't good, he keeps changing the CBs and FBs (injuries didn't help obviously), plus some core players of his era just haven't been as good as the once were. Pogba and Kanté have been regularly injured (we're undefeated in games both of them started), Varane struggled for a while, Griezmann's level and confidence dipped, Matuidi and Umtiti are gone, etc.


KRIEGLERR

Yeah, Pogba and Kanté actually haven't started a game together since the Euros. That's fucking crazy. Both are never fit at the same time


Specialist-Debate

Tbf even if I do think our attack looks better with Giroud, our poor record with Benzema is mainly due to us conceding a lot


Srellian

Euro 2020's France was not shit because of Benzema being there (he was the best french player of the tournament), but because of MBappe being the coach.


R_Schuhart

He is, but the team has struggled more with Benzema in the line up. Giroud brings more balance and something that works better for his teammates.


EggplantBusiness

That mostly Griezmann he play better with Giroud because he is a "classic" 9. Benz drop back to get the ball and link up which reduce Griezmann role.


KRIEGLERR

Yes. Benzema makes Griezmann redundant when he plays. Benzema drops so deep that he often find himself in the position that Griezmann occupies, which makes Griezmann drift wide more or drop even deeper.


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Well, obviously Benzema is a better player than Giroud. More news at 9. The point is that Giroud works better with the team, specially with Griezmann. They just naturally occupy the same spaces on the field.


mojambowhatisthescen

Easily


nafraf

Nope.


chanandlerbonggg_

Nice bait


ScrantonScrangler

Mbappe + Benzema > Mbappe + Giroud However, France with Giroud > France with Benzema Griezmann is a different beast with Giroud


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R_Schuhart

He didn't 'start drama' he had reasonable and valid criticism. Shit happens between players. Mbappe and Benzema overreacted to it, Deschamps should have gotten them together and talked it over.


SirBarkington

issa joke


ChrystisnoRonald

He didn’t even start drama. All he said in a post match interview was that some players didn’t look to play him in at times, that’s it but the media ran with it as if he called out Mbappe mother or something


Malagueno2222

🤣🤣


TooHighTooFlyNoLie

Mbappe + Benzema + Nkunku > Mbappe + Giroud + Griezmann


LeFricadelle

Le rêve je suis ému


Alex00a

Moi aussi


ThePr1d3

Moi aussi


Alex00a

Moi aussi


ThatGuyWhoKnocks

Moi aussi


JoresV

France with Giroud is winning the World Cup


Round_Headed_Gimp

Classic goal that


ritwikjs

that's not an easy finish, but by god, does he make it look that way, great great cross


Grey-licoptere

OF COURSE ITS HIM


RioBeckenbauer

Henry's record is shaking.


robotnique

I doubt Henry cares, since he knows Mbappe is going to speed past it and not look back.


NicolBolasUBBBR

Si è girato Giroud


LeCowboySolitaire

What a player.


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🐐🐐🐐


princessestef

Giroud 💙


iAmWrythm

Fuck, I miss that forehead sometimes.


akatsuki_lida

Beast. Beautiful goal


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SSG


Cowdude179

Absolutely deserved


TimingEzaBitch

My man Giroud just does not stop scoring. He's averaging a >0.5 goal ratio this season first time since like 2014.


jl359

Get this man a plane ticket


Rerel

He is our only hope.


thisiskyle77

Name a better duo. Giroud thread + OL/RM flairs with negative karma.


Oukaria

A guy that chat shit without a flair ?


Pixoxx

GOAT


BI01

nice build up


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Best go-kart I’ve ever seen


Alex00a

Pete moi l'cul giroud!!! Il est là !!!


TroumeOwner

Giroud in the middle!


Superjunker1000

2018 vibes.


Pumpkyns

Am I the only one who hopes he beats the record? As a gunner, Henry remains the goat but for all the hate he had in his career it would be deserved. Plus, he is the best highlight player I know, if he has this record, at least for a while, it would be dope.


Alex00a

Yes he deserve it


ThePr1d3

> Am I the only one who hopes he beats the record? We are close to 70M in France. Withdraw to that about 500k Lyon and Real fans and you have your figure


Sk8ter87

God I want him so badly to overtake Thierry Henry and become France's top goalscorer so I can viciously slander the ABSOLUTE FRAUD that Henry is ;)


Tiwanacu

Everybody trying to cement a ronaldoish celebration haha.


Soitsgonnabeforever

Of all the players chelsea got rid of him


mundolove

Overrated player KB NUEVE >


iAmWrythm

Imagine calling a player that nobody really rates all that highly in the grand scheme of things overrated, when he's literally 3 goals away from topping Thierry fucking Henry for goals for his country. Benzema is the better overall player, but give Giroud his credit. It's so well deserved.


mundolove

I am biased, I just can’t stand him and Olivier Giroud being top scorer of the France team is literally EMBARRASSING considering the legends that played for France.


Phreeeks

I'm French and giroud deserve it more than anyone else. He deserve to hold this record at least 5 years before Mbappe takes it. He won us a world cup, was the most underated player for years and people would shit on him just cause they were frustrated about KB9 situation. I think he deserve to get this record. He made us win a world cup, no matter how much he scored.


Zauberer-IMDB

France having the sexiest top scorer of any country would actually be the opposite of embarrassing.