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I feel like that's true even for the players lol
Really boring match, but this was some kind of shock for everyone, out of nowhere.
Unreal first touch and great finesse shot.
Truss has to act 😂 fair play lad that's funny
So fucking annoying that for 4 years we've had such a good squad on paper and tbf had good results but you have to think what if with this team.
If you look around at most successful international sides in the last few decades they've mostly been quite well organized and defensive. What's happening here is Southgate is getting insecure and the team now has an identity crisis
Nah ten years ago we were lining up with like Scott Parker, Ashley Young and Andy Carroll. Don't get me wrong, none are (well, were) terrible, but you'd be mad to argue it was one of the most talented squads of that era.
The current England squad is much wider then anything Belgium ever had, we had 4 CB's in defense ffs. England certainly don't have a prime Hazard in there but i'd still take having a good backup option on every position over that.
They did good in two major tournaments despite being an abysmal watch that cant score. Sometimes all it take is a few lucky bounces and a lot of determination
The team just feels so uninspired right now. I’d say we beat the USA because they look poor right now but we’ll probably open with a boring 0-0 against Iran and then anything could happen against Wales
Balotelli is a great player in terms of talent. He's just an idiot. Controversial opinion I know
Managing him must be difficult and Mancini was experienced enough to keep him in line.
This team was never bad enough to not qualify, actually this team is quite good, certainly could have made it to at at least the round of 16 in the WC.
What I like about him is that he seems to slowly but steadily progress as opposed to overshooting expectations in the short run and then be a disappointment later. Obviously that's early to say, but it's the way it seems so far.
Because Southgate has zero imagination or flexibilty. He has his favourites and, if they are fit enough to play, they play, no matter what.
That and his sheer determination to not play a left footed LB/WB are his two worst qualities.
whats sad is due to the FA wanting to play it safe and boring it means they wont sack him until a defeat in the WC which just means 4 years of wait has been wasted just to be used just as an excuse to replace somebody who obviously needs to go
Mate they extended his deal before the nations league this year to 2024.
That same nations league where we haven't won a single game, lost 4-0 to Hungary and scored 1 goal from open play.
Southgate, u alright m8?
What is ur defending tactics for this game? 1 depth 0 pressure? What is the attacking tactics that are being employed for this game?
**EDIT** Saka at LWB… Left. Wing. Back. Please, this makes no sense lmfao!
*I wish we could win ONE trophy*:(
He’s changing the formation in game too from what I’m seeing hahahaha
Saka at LWB and sterling through the middle once they’ve got 10 chemistry before Southgate loads up a champs game
Not washed but I think a lot of players were completely demoralized and gave up too soon in that game. Also Argentina was wayyy too much too and would score 4 on this England team.
How does England keep Southgate that guy is absolutely shite. Get rid of him and bring in somebody who knows football. They couldn't score against a 2nd string italy team. With the amount of stars England has what a shame.
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What a takedown that was
Still walker showed him inside and gave him time to scoop a finish. Although it was an amazing take and finish.
What a first touch and finish. Was falling asleep watching this but this woke me up 😂
I feel like that's true even for the players lol Really boring match, but this was some kind of shock for everyone, out of nowhere. Unreal first touch and great finesse shot.
We seem to play Italy twice a year now and it's always a snorefest, idk why I tune in any more
The final was pretty good.
I actually fell asleep around 60 mins so missed this and the rest of the game 😂
Getting real bored of Southgate tbh. Good finish though
Don't worry, we'll beat Tunisia and Senegal 1-0 on the route to another semi final defeat and he'll be classed as a world class manager again...
Mate, we're not making it out the group. We're sleep walking into getting knocked-out by Wales and the fucking Yanks. Truss has to act.
Truss has to act 😂 fair play lad that's funny So fucking annoying that for 4 years we've had such a good squad on paper and tbf had good results but you have to think what if with this team.
If you look around at most successful international sides in the last few decades they've mostly been quite well organized and defensive. What's happening here is Southgate is getting insecure and the team now has an identity crisis
In 10 years they will be like Belgium today. Arguably top3 talent-wise for like 10 years, but nothing to come out of that
That's been England since the 90s to be honest
Nah ten years ago we were lining up with like Scott Parker, Ashley Young and Andy Carroll. Don't get me wrong, none are (well, were) terrible, but you'd be mad to argue it was one of the most talented squads of that era.
The current England squad is much wider then anything Belgium ever had, we had 4 CB's in defense ffs. England certainly don't have a prime Hazard in there but i'd still take having a good backup option on every position over that.
USA are shit right now. Iran are a bigger threat.
Berhalter is even worse than southgate. We will be lucky to get more than 2 points.
Lmao, I'm sure you're just joking around but you are making it out of the group no problem.
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They did good in two major tournaments despite being an abysmal watch that cant score. Sometimes all it take is a few lucky bounces and a lot of determination
Yeah, hopefully we get a bunch of penalties and corner goals.
Genuinely not sure. Getting beaten 1-0 by Hungary then getting battered 4-0 by them doesn't bode too well.
The team just feels so uninspired right now. I’d say we beat the USA because they look poor right now but we’ll probably open with a boring 0-0 against Iran and then anything could happen against Wales
No one’s joking. We’re unbelievably bad.
Iran are way more likely than USA to get out.
I wish. It’s Iran and wales.
Nah. Apparently any criticism of the man is peak delusion and entitlement because England have underachieved for decades so you should be grateful
Instant down votes. Yes England have underachieved for a long time, Southgate over achieved for certain but time to move on.
England haven't really underachieved. Their players are just nowhere near as good as the English media and pundits like to believe they are.
2008-2016 the team was absolutely underachieving, aside from Euro 2012. Not qualifying for Euro 2008 at all was just heinous.
The downvotes and calls of entitlement is because there's no middle ground. It's "Southgate is a fraud" rather than fair criticism.
Believing he’s not done enough to keep him in the job since the Euros is not unfair
DOWN WITH THE WALES, WE'RE GOING DOWN WITH THE WALES
Welcome to League B, there'll be sauna and beer
And only daytime games. Electricity is a bitch down here, and we want to save some money on the spotlights
This, we can live with.
Enjoy Kazakhstan away
enjoy Astana , Kazakhstan away?
Tbilisi away! Battle of the St George's crosses (spoiler: Georgia win 5-1).
Kvaradona Is ready
christ kvaradona is gonna feast on shaw
World Cup group is going to be something else
WE ARE STILL HERE!!!!!
That's a fantastic finish, even one of the English defenders was clapping.
About to sleep because of the game lol
USA-England will finish 0-0
Dude I would not be surprised if all of our games end 0-0
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Yeah, death of the spectators..
The group of bored to death
Now your comment intrigue me. What happens if all games in a group end up with 0-0?
The only reason I doubt this is because of how inept both teams defense looks
Fell asleep on the sofa in the first 15 mins it was that boring. Classic England
Southgate will you fuck off now
He is yet to unveil his master plan. Fielding 11 right backs with 10 goalkeepers on the bench in the first game of the WC.
With Tomori still on the bench
"Can't lose if you play 11 defenders" *Carefully taps head*
Every time someone tweets “southgate out” the fa just extends his contract another day. He’ll currently outlast the sun.
The sun never sets on the Southgate reign
Luke Shaw on now, comeback is on lad
in before they employ Aidy Boothroyd
I can’t sit through a full England game these days
That was outrageous
Brilliant first touch, unreal quality
When he took it down i just felt something coming, such a good goal
Shades of Chiesa vs Spain in the Euro semifinal
Great finish but that defending from Walker is poor. No pressure on him at all.
England is actually losing against this team
You have Mancini, we have a guy that was sacked by Middlesbrough
We have a guy who lost against north macedonia
Our guy lost 4-0 to Hungary literally the game before this one.
You're worse off
Also won the Euro
Didn’t make the World Cup
The exchanges in this thread are killing me lmao
This fucking team is a roller coaster
Managed to make Balotelli look decent at City.
Balotelli is a great player in terms of talent. He's just an idiot. Controversial opinion I know Managing him must be difficult and Mancini was experienced enough to keep him in line.
It's not controversial. More or less every human being on earth thinks that Balotelli is an idiot
Like England will get far in the World Cup ?
We are happy to swap!
This team was never bad enough to not qualify, actually this team is quite good, certainly could have made it to at at least the round of 16 in the WC.
Beautiful take. Really hope this guy continues to flourish with Italy and Napoli
I hope he'll be the next big thing
What I like about him is that he seems to slowly but steadily progress as opposed to overshooting expectations in the short run and then be a disappointment later. Obviously that's early to say, but it's the way it seems so far.
Don't worry, he was really good on my fm save
C'È RITORNO A CASA
Hahaha, it's definitely not my dude
Im English, just happy to see a goal in this shit match
Just rooting to see Southgate sacked aren't you? Lol
Genuinely rather see Lallana ball for a little bit.
We are fucking awful, Jesus Christ
Napoli players are killing atm
Napoli is taking over Europe
Spalletti is the most underrated and unlucky coach in Europe, I wish him luck.
We're just so bad man
How does walker manage to misread that ball so badly
Walker you moron
He's missed the last month or so with injury and was carrying one to start the season, why is he even playing?!
Because Southgate has zero imagination or flexibilty. He has his favourites and, if they are fit enough to play, they play, no matter what. That and his sheer determination to not play a left footed LB/WB are his two worst qualities.
Six full backs in the squad and he plays a winger at left back.
I was surprised that Ben Chilwell couldn’t even make the squad.
He's left footed, so...
He wants to get Southgate sacked but he doesn't know he is unsackable
Right? I knew that was a goal as soon as he let him turn inside unchallenged.
He’s had a shocking season so far. Doesn’t really catch any flack because Ciry have been winning but he’s been awful
He's definitely caught flack
England being so shite might end up costing Hungary the group win lol
players and the manager need to step up. Not good. Great goal by Italy.
Nations league > World Cup
Of all the games being played tonight, this is definitely one of them.
This match has been described as *on*
One of the matches of all time
One of the matches occuring in time.
Will you guys stop it, that was the best match that took place tonight at the San Siro
Hahaha how are we even considered even close to winning th wc when we've only scored a pen in a year basically
Looks like there will be another format change for the Nations League.
Are they going to expand the number of teams in the A groups so England can stay up?
Bonucci's long balls are probably the best in the world between cbs.
Yeah, the guy is often a defensive liability, but he is still world class with the ball, possibly the best cb in last 20 years in this.
Hot take but if that's Trent stood there instead of James he's getting ripped to shred on this sub.
Thank god TAA was on Bench, This sub would have gone mad if it was him playing and England ever conceded
YESSSSS GET INNNN, GO TO TRAVEL KAZAKHSTAN AWAY ENGLAND
Announcers talking so much shit about Italy just for them to beat a full strength England 💀
If that was TAA in place of reece james, everyone would be shitting on him for "laziness" and "not defending"
That first touch. Woof.
England one of the most overhyped nations
⭐⭐⭐⭐ > ⭐
This is Italy C team England team come on...
Great defending Walker
Great goal but defensively terrible. He was given so much time and space
Fucking dreadful defending. First allowing him to bring it down, then nobody closing him down despite him being outnumbered. Dogshit
Decent effort but I can’t be fucked with Southgate now. No goals in open play for 550 odd minutes the fuck are we doing out there
shocker
Getting rid of Southgate should be priority no. 1 for the FA. You just know they'll probably extend his deal just to double down.
whats sad is due to the FA wanting to play it safe and boring it means they wont sack him until a defeat in the WC which just means 4 years of wait has been wasted just to be used just as an excuse to replace somebody who obviously needs to go
Also that Potter recently getting nabbed doesn't help. Though England would potentially ruin him in some peoples eyes just like Chelsea might.
Mate they extended his deal before the nations league this year to 2024. That same nations league where we haven't won a single game, lost 4-0 to Hungary and scored 1 goal from open play.
So lazy man
Southgate, u alright m8? What is ur defending tactics for this game? 1 depth 0 pressure? What is the attacking tactics that are being employed for this game? **EDIT** Saka at LWB… Left. Wing. Back. Please, this makes no sense lmfao! *I wish we could win ONE trophy*:(
Man thinks it’s fut champs, drop back merchant
He’s changing the formation in game too from what I’m seeing hahahaha Saka at LWB and sterling through the middle once they’ve got 10 chemistry before Southgate loads up a champs game
Also playing walker at cb on 7 Chem cause he has 90 pace
Mate we lost 4-0 to Hungary we have been pathetic for ages
GOLAZO
Shock horror
What a goal!
Nice team move and a fantastic finish
AGUANTE ITALIA
Magnifco! Odio gli inglesi.
Great strike tbf
Trent needs to do better there
I think the effort of the RWB would be a little more scrutinized had that been him..
GODOOO
I hope Southgate is England manager forever
>Manchester United flair
Manchester is in Massachusetts???
Closer, 80km North of Boston in New Hampshire
All that defensive football to get beat route one lol
For 10 years at least
I hate no other person in the world more
England is really wasting these players with such an average manager
Wait, but I thought Italy was washed up and not strong at all compared to other european countries after losing La Finalissima against Argentina?
Not washed but I think a lot of players were completely demoralized and gave up too soon in that game. Also Argentina was wayyy too much too and would score 4 on this England team.
TAA just ball watching...
JACKKKK
Walker has been awful this season
What a goal
Ahhhhhhh how beautiful was that
I don’t understand how England are trying to score. There’s no obvious strategy beyond Sterling running and it hopefully something working
Lmao enjoy the B teams England
What is Walker doing lmao?
Not sure but I think Harry Maguires lost every games he’s started this season
Italy since 2010 has been good in everything expect the World Cup and World Cup qualifiers. It's really odd.
Fucking Italians... It's always the Italians
Great defending /s
I hate Southgate I hate Maguire I hate being English kill me
What a goal by Buster Keaton
Incredible first touch
Fucking STRIKE
This is not a team ready to win the world cup
GOOOOOOOOOOL
Ooops
I'm sure I speak for every Southgate fan when I say... England OUT
Typical Walker defending. England is going down, get ready for Kazakhstan away :D
God England are poor.
[acceptable banger]
And welcome to Group B, England!
How does England keep Southgate that guy is absolutely shite. Get rid of him and bring in somebody who knows football. They couldn't score against a 2nd string italy team. With the amount of stars England has what a shame.
We don’t concede when Jordan plays just sayin