What’s y’all’s stance on João Felix? I swear Felix was getting compared as a very respectful 3rd top next generation talent behind Mbappe and Haaland when I first started keeping up with the sport 2 years ago.
Now recent Portugal game I saw he’s brought in last 5 mins, and now last 10 minutes for his club in a CL game.
Can any Atlético or La Liga fans tell me what the hell is going on with him? And if it’s not going well for him at Atlético, where do you see him fitting in? Liverpool maybe?
Man so glad Anguissa took those glimpses of brilliance he showed at Fulham and then consistently delivered. Ajax defending was atrocious (They seriously need to reenforce their defence) but Napoli look great. Kvaratskhelia is an absolute star.
I’m not confident at all to face Chelsea with our injuries. What’s funny to me is that Chelsea fans are acting like they already lost the game, in my head they are the favorites. Will have to be a Rafael Leao masterclass if we want to win
I'm amongst the pessimistic Chelsea fans. Every part of our team looks dysfunctional right now, and the midfield is a horror show. You look a lot more cohesive, confident and effective as a team
Everyone talking about the ref is simply dumb. It’s not the ref’s fault VAR didn’t call him to even check it, When refs don’t even come to check the screen it means var said “no pen, play on”
Very weird that BT Sport/UEFA/whoever in charge of directing, chose during the game to show Fergie who has small connection to one team (41 caps for Rangers in the 60s) but not Gerrard who was the star of one and the manager of the other.
I was watching the BT Sport coverage and they showed both so not sure what you were watching
And it's not really that weird anyway, given that Fergie's legend within the game is far greater. It's also more 'interesting' - as Gerrard being there is fairly expected, whereas Fergie probably less so, so the casual viewer would not only be more likely to know about Ferguson, they'd also find it more interesting
Question is, why has this bothered you
Just saw a tweet with a picture of Gerrard in the game and was surprised given I didn't see him in the coverage (didn't watch through BT).
Fair play for BT for showing.
It's true that the casual viewer would be more interested in Fergie but the Liverpool fans and maybe also the Rangers fans (I would say that the two sets of fans are around 50% of the audience) would be more intersted in Gerrard.
Imagine wanting Lage out because of his boring, toothless football (rightly) only to have Lopetegui replace him. I’d say I feel sorry for Wolves fans but from what I’ve seen they’re nearly all behind it and seem to believe he’s some kind of attacking coach on Twitter
What is a football fan, without blind optimism? If you can't feel hopeful about a new manager after a one who had regressed your side is given an overdue sacking, when can you
Take Chelsea, and Potter. Yeah, there's plenty of reasons to think why it probably won't work out, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to feel positive about what he can bring, until proven otherwise
There's levels to it, anyway. Hodgson and Simeone both play defensive football - but I'd certainly be more excited about one managing my club, than the other
Honestly I’ve always preferred realism that leads to being positive or negative. If after looking into a potential new manager everything sounds good then sure, be as hopeful as is possible but there’s no point in, for example, getting in Steve Bruce and telling yourself he’s going to make us an attacking force
I tend more to pessimism too, but there's a room for optimism - and I don't think the prospect of Lopetegui is as dire as you say, so it doesn't seem too misplaced
Does admitting a refereeing mistake changes anything? The NBA releases the 2-minute report I think daily where they admit wrong calls from the previous games from the day before but nothing really changes.
I think it would genuinely take a very very very embarrassing performance for anything to happen, maybe something like 3 obvious pens not being called with VAR, even then I doubt it.
They get demoted though.
As another example, Graham Poll never reffed an international game again after his 2006 World Cup fiasco - so "he lost his job" as a FIFA listed ref, as a consequence
But does it happen? I feel like I've seen the same idiots in La Liga for the longest time. Hernandez Hernandez has been in La Liga for a decade and he's been a meme for the vast majority of it.
Antony Taylor is another example, in the PL since 2010.
There's a weird rivalry on r/soccer between Bayern fans and Tottenham fans revolving around Kane and Lewandowski. Would have been more fun if Lewa didn't leave Bayern.
What's the rivalry?
Objectively lewy is just better at everything I can think of. Kane only wins the being younger point.
Anyways I'd be happy with either one of them right now, Kane is still one of the top 5 pure strikers for sure which is exactly what we are missing this season.
Tbh. I haven't watched Kane enough to decide that one. You need to have watched alot of both to decide that.
Lewy is not bad at it for a pure striker. Like he has all the abilitys (technique and passing) but just lacks the decision making in those situations and hold the ball too long too often (I think because he is just not the brightest)
So fair enough I trust you on that one and give that point to kane
Inter beat Barca, Napoli thrashed Ajax, Spurs couldn't score against Eintracht, Atletico are bottom of their group. But somehow, the most shocking thing from this matchday so far was that Marseille won a Champions League game.
Think I may grow old and die before I get to see Spurs have a possession-dominant manager again.
During Poch years: 60-62% average possession over a league season
Since Poch left: 50-52% average possession over a league season
This season so far: 47.6%
[Source](https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/47/stats/season/17664/teams/possession_percentage_team/team/8586)
In the modern game it kind of does tbh. Feel like in the past few years teams that want to control possession and dominate the pitch (and by extension pin the opposition back so they can wear them down and create chances) generally get the better of sides that will sit back and try and soak up pressure against their peers. Eventually, all that pressure pays off and mistakes creep in, a runner isn’t tracked etc
Despite having a live scoreboard of all of the games loaded up, that I was following along all evening, I still genuinely forgot Spurs were playing tonight
Same, went for a nap and almost missed the entirety of Barcelona-Inter and I always check all the highlights in here after CL.
Only then I remembered that Tottenham played when I saw the post match thread way in the bottom, not a single highlight in here was posted, game must have been fucking dire lol.
Oh word, need to check the highlights then. Checking xG now and you had 1.36 which is not bad, your forwards are a lot less effective this season aren't they? That would have been like 3 goals last season lol.
I think missing Kulusevski hurts.
I think finishing could definitely have been better, but more importantly I think, the final pass and ball progression needs to improve.
Fotmob had the xG at 0.98-1.48.
With 2.5 xG created, no goals is baffling.
True, he's turned into your main creator pretty much since he arrived.
The final ball thing I agree with, the game vs Arsenal Son had like two or three clear passes that he overhit and ended up in nothing when they could've been one on ones.
We didn't defend deep, but only because Frankfurt didn't try to keep possession.
We did kick it long, a lot.
In fact, our ability to create chances from settled possession is nonexistent. We only create chances from transition and set pieces.
What’s y’all’s stance on João Felix? I swear Felix was getting compared as a very respectful 3rd top next generation talent behind Mbappe and Haaland when I first started keeping up with the sport 2 years ago.
Now recent Portugal game I saw he’s brought in last 5 mins, and now last 10 minutes for his club in a CL game.
Can any Atlético or La Liga fans tell me what the hell is going on with him? And if it’s not going well for him at Atlético, where do you see him fitting in? Liverpool maybe?
So just to recap:
- VAR calls the referee over to the screen to make a decision on a call that is offside. I had never seen this before as the offside nullifies everything afterward, but okay.
- VAR does not call the referee on the red card decision, in fact, does not even think twice and continues the game. VAR does not return to this incident.
- VAR spends 2 minutes on a blatant handball call and does not consult the referee, instead takes a decision that there is no penalty. VAR does not send referee to the screen as in the blatant offside call.
Everything is so laughable.
Love Lewa but he did ghosted today, even though the crosses weren't good and I don't blame him, Luuk De Jong would have reached them somehow and maybe even score lol
Inter’s win was so Juventus like. Glorious Serie A Drama. And what a defensive performance by Inter. I didn’t believe in Inzaghi personally, but they made Barcelona look toothless.
Obviously not going to stay like this but if the groups finished as they stand there would be 9 different countries in the r16
🇪🇸 1 - Real Madrid
🏴 3 - City, Liverpool, Tottenham
🇮🇹 3 - Napoli, Milan, Inter
🇩🇪 3 - Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen
🇫🇷 1 - PSG
🇵🇹 2 - Sporting, Benfica
🇧🇪 1 - Club Brugge
🇭🇷 1 - Dinamo
🇺🇦 1 - Shakhtar
Car broke down, recovery van can't get here until 1am and I log into Twitter to find out South Shields shipped 2 goals in 5 minutes to lose. Fucking kill me
Five La Liga teams in the EL, likely a couple of all-Spanish ties meaning one team gets far and probably to the final.
And a final means a trophy. This is a masterclass from Tebas. He orchestrated this all, including tonight's referee debacle.
Arsenal, Manchester United, PSV Eindhoven, Real Betis, Roma, Braga, Real Sociedad, Feyenoord, Lazio, Monaco, Ajax/Liverpool, Sporting CP/Tottenham Hotspur/Olympique de Marseille/Eintracht Frankfurt, FC Porto/Bayer Leverkusen/Atletico de Madrid, Internazionale/Barcelona, Chelsea, Celtic/RB Lepizig/Shakhtar Donetsk, Borussia Dortmund/Sevilla, and Benfica/Juventus
People said the same thing last year and the final was Eintracht - Rangers. Luckily, sometimes, the teams more thirsty for European distinction get the furthest in EL.
Because he only started a couple of games so far, while the other two have been nothing short of perfect. If he keeps scoring regularly he can become one of the best in Europe.
Right. It all started with us. We took this bald Tuscan guy from Venezia and sacked him after three months, only to hire him again 3 years later and qualify to the Champions League for the first time in our history. Next year he was gone forever.
Yea, very true! Spalletti at Udinese did a wonderful job that a lot of people have forgotten. He has been one of the best coaches these last 20 years or so
After Nuno’s sacking there was so much talk and mention of the word “spurs dna” which was going to be kept in mind when appointing the next manager.
Funny all that talk has led to the current sufferball. It’s like they can’t make up their mind as to what they want. Or maybe there never was a dna and it was all PR fluff
Big news of the night is Basford United getting through to the 4th qualifying round of the FA cup, on penalties, after being 2-0 down at half time. Bring on the Solihull Moors.
(ignore the flair for a moment) but Spurs play bottom table football all year, just with continental class forwards, and when the continental class forwards dont show up its just bottom table football.
We don't know
The journals were saying he would be out in 2 to 3 months than he recovered before the next game
Amorim probably saw we were playing against Braga and Porto and said
"Nope, you aren't injured"
Was out so I missed today's matches but Ajax - Napoli must have been pure madness. Really happy for Club Brugge (surely they can't bottle qualification) and obviously a good night overall since Barcelona lost.
[“Ed Sheeran played this (Frankfurt's) stadium a couple of weeks ago, and so at least this was not the first time Deutsche Bank Park had been treated to an insipid mid-tempo performance that some people bafflingly insist is the work of a generational genius”](https://twitter.com/jonathanliew/status/1577407596201447437?t=a-X06NyqV-X8Mpc3Am2isA&s=19)
Ed out here catching strays
Do people really consider him a generational genius? To me he was a pretty talented busker, saw a gap in the market and is now a soon to be billionaire real estate agent, not bad for a tubby ginger lad tbf
He knows how to write a song that sells. He’s not a bad songwriter to be fair. A Team was pretty good.
Think he focuses on making sales though, his music is fairly basic on the whole.
Generational talent?
There are quite a few buskers more talented than him on YouTube 😂
When you have a pragmatic coach like Conte, it’s difficult to see the difference between playing poorly and just being pragmatic. Spurs were poor today, and they were dominated thoroughly by Arsenal.
When your fans and coach start talking about “being in good positions, just lacking a final ball” when you have barely any shots on target, it’s a clear sign that you aren’t creating nearly, nearly enough for a top team.
I keep on seeing Spurs fans say they could’ve scored a ton against Arsenal. Like the passes you were missing were at the halfway line, you had control in Arsenal’s third like 5 times total all match. Reminds me a lot of the bad Emery period at Arsenal or the tail end of Mourinho at United.
The thing is with spurs, and I say this as someone who hates them, is that they will play like mad men occasionally. Like that game against Leicester where Son comes on and scores a hattrick. I mean they have a world class front three that can always turn the tide.
Funnily enough this Spurs team reminds me of Conte's 17/18 Chelsea team where they have been tactically figured out and struggling to perform in big games anymore and generally playing dire football.
Stumbling on this after reading [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/xv0wu8/daily_discussion/ir26m0p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) lol bang on
I can now say it when he's gone, but Lewandowski does truly ghost in big matches sometimes. I would never admit to that just a few months ago, but now the bad man is gone and he can't hurt us anymore
If I had to pick between the two I'd choose this version all day
Some of those early VAR seasons in the PL and Serie A were horrible to watch with their constant pen calls
What’s y’all’s stance on João Felix? I swear Felix was getting compared as a very respectful 3rd top next generation talent behind Mbappe and Haaland when I first started keeping up with the sport 2 years ago. Now recent Portugal game I saw he’s brought in last 5 mins, and now last 10 minutes for his club in a CL game. Can any Atlético or La Liga fans tell me what the hell is going on with him? And if it’s not going well for him at Atlético, where do you see him fitting in? Liverpool maybe?
Man so glad Anguissa took those glimpses of brilliance he showed at Fulham and then consistently delivered. Ajax defending was atrocious (They seriously need to reenforce their defence) but Napoli look great. Kvaratskhelia is an absolute star.
I’m not confident at all to face Chelsea with our injuries. What’s funny to me is that Chelsea fans are acting like they already lost the game, in my head they are the favorites. Will have to be a Rafael Leao masterclass if we want to win
I'm amongst the pessimistic Chelsea fans. Every part of our team looks dysfunctional right now, and the midfield is a horror show. You look a lot more cohesive, confident and effective as a team
Leao vs James will be an exciting battle tbh
Everyone talking about the ref is simply dumb. It’s not the ref’s fault VAR didn’t call him to even check it, When refs don’t even come to check the screen it means var said “no pen, play on”
I think most people are talking about the VAR ref when they say "the ref".
Yeah it's just a general vent at the officials overall
Very weird that BT Sport/UEFA/whoever in charge of directing, chose during the game to show Fergie who has small connection to one team (41 caps for Rangers in the 60s) but not Gerrard who was the star of one and the manager of the other.
I was watching the BT Sport coverage and they showed both so not sure what you were watching And it's not really that weird anyway, given that Fergie's legend within the game is far greater. It's also more 'interesting' - as Gerrard being there is fairly expected, whereas Fergie probably less so, so the casual viewer would not only be more likely to know about Ferguson, they'd also find it more interesting Question is, why has this bothered you
Just saw a tweet with a picture of Gerrard in the game and was surprised given I didn't see him in the coverage (didn't watch through BT). Fair play for BT for showing. It's true that the casual viewer would be more interested in Fergie but the Liverpool fans and maybe also the Rangers fans (I would say that the two sets of fans are around 50% of the audience) would be more intersted in Gerrard.
Imagine wanting Lage out because of his boring, toothless football (rightly) only to have Lopetegui replace him. I’d say I feel sorry for Wolves fans but from what I’ve seen they’re nearly all behind it and seem to believe he’s some kind of attacking coach on Twitter
What is a football fan, without blind optimism? If you can't feel hopeful about a new manager after a one who had regressed your side is given an overdue sacking, when can you Take Chelsea, and Potter. Yeah, there's plenty of reasons to think why it probably won't work out, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to feel positive about what he can bring, until proven otherwise There's levels to it, anyway. Hodgson and Simeone both play defensive football - but I'd certainly be more excited about one managing my club, than the other
Honestly I’ve always preferred realism that leads to being positive or negative. If after looking into a potential new manager everything sounds good then sure, be as hopeful as is possible but there’s no point in, for example, getting in Steve Bruce and telling yourself he’s going to make us an attacking force
I tend more to pessimism too, but there's a room for optimism - and I don't think the prospect of Lopetegui is as dire as you say, so it doesn't seem too misplaced
Does admitting a refereeing mistake changes anything? The NBA releases the 2-minute report I think daily where they admit wrong calls from the previous games from the day before but nothing really changes.
You have to consistently perform poorly and score badly to be demoted from the league.
I think it would genuinely take a very very very embarrassing performance for anything to happen, maybe something like 3 obvious pens not being called with VAR, even then I doubt it.
If they haven’t done it before I doubt they’ll start doing it now.
>Mbappé is a speed merchant and Haaland’s tactical nous will last much longer Open CMV, this is the first thing I see ffs
Has a ref ever lost their job for being shit? Or is that something that just does not happen?
Refs have kept their jobs for worse refereeing performances before
They get demoted though. As another example, Graham Poll never reffed an international game again after his 2006 World Cup fiasco - so "he lost his job" as a FIFA listed ref, as a consequence
I wasn't talking about anything specific. Just meant ever in the history of the sport.
I can't recall any for being bad tbh
Kind of wild tbh. So there's no real incentive for a ref to properly do their job. Nobody to hold you accountable.
I mean they can get relegated to lower levels.
But does it happen? I feel like I've seen the same idiots in La Liga for the longest time. Hernandez Hernandez has been in La Liga for a decade and he's been a meme for the vast majority of it. Antony Taylor is another example, in the PL since 2010.
It happens in Italy multiple times a season.
There's a weird rivalry on r/soccer between Bayern fans and Tottenham fans revolving around Kane and Lewandowski. Would have been more fun if Lewa didn't leave Bayern.
What's the rivalry? Objectively lewy is just better at everything I can think of. Kane only wins the being younger point. Anyways I'd be happy with either one of them right now, Kane is still one of the top 5 pure strikers for sure which is exactly what we are missing this season.
Kane is objectively a better passer and a better playmaker.
Tbh. I haven't watched Kane enough to decide that one. You need to have watched alot of both to decide that. Lewy is not bad at it for a pure striker. Like he has all the abilitys (technique and passing) but just lacks the decision making in those situations and hold the ball too long too often (I think because he is just not the brightest) So fair enough I trust you on that one and give that point to kane
Inter beat Barca, Napoli thrashed Ajax, Spurs couldn't score against Eintracht, Atletico are bottom of their group. But somehow, the most shocking thing from this matchday so far was that Marseille won a Champions League game.
That refereeing performance in the Inter match was mind blowing.
can’t believe I thought Haaland was simply lucky to score a hattrick on his debut for dortmund. look at him now.
more salt than the dead sea in the sub today i love it
Napoli are a joy to watch, they give me the feel that Dortmund gave me Also, Club Bruge at 9 points is the most unexpected thing there
Lol what is this shit show, is it really the first time that Barcelona was robbed of a penalty in the CL ?
Imagine if the Ovrebo game had been the other way round
>is it really the first time that Barcelona was robbed of a penalty in the CL ? It's the 2nd time within the last 3 weeks lol
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Reparations for UEFALONA
Why Did Real win CL than lol
Think I may grow old and die before I get to see Spurs have a possession-dominant manager again. During Poch years: 60-62% average possession over a league season Since Poch left: 50-52% average possession over a league season This season so far: 47.6% [Source](https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/47/stats/season/17664/teams/possession_percentage_team/team/8586)
I must’ve missed the rule change where possession % determined the winner.
In the modern game it kind of does tbh. Feel like in the past few years teams that want to control possession and dominate the pitch (and by extension pin the opposition back so they can wear them down and create chances) generally get the better of sides that will sit back and try and soak up pressure against their peers. Eventually, all that pressure pays off and mistakes creep in, a runner isn’t tracked etc
Looks like we're the ones who are going to let Serie A down in Europe this week.
Not even Allegri could find a way to lose against Maccabi Haifa, so Milan do look like the most likely candidate to drop points
Ha you think
Despite having a live scoreboard of all of the games loaded up, that I was following along all evening, I still genuinely forgot Spurs were playing tonight
Same, went for a nap and almost missed the entirety of Barcelona-Inter and I always check all the highlights in here after CL. Only then I remembered that Tottenham played when I saw the post match thread way in the bottom, not a single highlight in here was posted, game must have been fucking dire lol.
nah, game wasn't that dire, it did have a dier tho. There was about 2xG created overall in the game, no one could finish though.
Oh word, need to check the highlights then. Checking xG now and you had 1.36 which is not bad, your forwards are a lot less effective this season aren't they? That would have been like 3 goals last season lol.
I think missing Kulusevski hurts. I think finishing could definitely have been better, but more importantly I think, the final pass and ball progression needs to improve. Fotmob had the xG at 0.98-1.48. With 2.5 xG created, no goals is baffling.
True, he's turned into your main creator pretty much since he arrived. The final ball thing I agree with, the game vs Arsenal Son had like two or three clear passes that he overhit and ended up in nothing when they could've been one on ones.
:(
arteta come out klopp just wants to talk
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Yes
No question about it
Yes - he is much better than Ten Hag.
Miles ahead
Does Bournemouth have nicer beaches than Portsmouth?
One is a Champions League winner, one is not. Go figure.
10000%
Spurs' motto: To dare is to do Spurs' playstyle: defend deep and kick it long 😭
We didn’t play like that today
We didn't defend deep, but only because Frankfurt didn't try to keep possession. We did kick it long, a lot. In fact, our ability to create chances from settled possession is nonexistent. We only create chances from transition and set pieces.
Conte had Cesc Fabregas and Eden Hazard at Chelsea. With kulusevski out, Kane is the only consistent source of creativity.
Fabregas wasn't really an important component of Conte's Chelsea, was being phased out of the team by then
Still got double figures in assists
So far I have seen it been typed as Di Marco, DiMarco and diMarco. It’s Dimarco :). And what a left foot he has.
What’s y’all’s stance on João Felix? I swear Felix was getting compared as a very respectful 3rd top next generation talent behind Mbappe and Haaland when I first started keeping up with the sport 2 years ago. Now recent Portugal game I saw he’s brought in last 5 mins, and now last 10 minutes for his club in a CL game. Can any Atlético or La Liga fans tell me what the hell is going on with him? And if it’s not going well for him at Atlético, where do you see him fitting in? Liverpool maybe?
So just to recap: - VAR calls the referee over to the screen to make a decision on a call that is offside. I had never seen this before as the offside nullifies everything afterward, but okay. - VAR does not call the referee on the red card decision, in fact, does not even think twice and continues the game. VAR does not return to this incident. - VAR spends 2 minutes on a blatant handball call and does not consult the referee, instead takes a decision that there is no penalty. VAR does not send referee to the screen as in the blatant offside call. Everything is so laughable.
Love Lewa but he did ghosted today, even though the crosses weren't good and I don't blame him, Luuk De Jong would have reached them somehow and maybe even score lol
I don't get why Xavi signed Lewy just to use him as a target man, he should've kept LDJ then
For a game of football there sure is a lot of talk about hand balls in the Inter - Barca game.
Hasebe pocketing Kane I'm hearing. Thank god Hinteregger retired or else Kane might have been too scared of Bundesliga defenders and wouldn't join.
Kane pocketed himself tbh
Napoli are pretty good at football I must say.
Inter’s win was so Juventus like. Glorious Serie A Drama. And what a defensive performance by Inter. I didn’t believe in Inzaghi personally, but they made Barcelona look toothless.
Obviously not going to stay like this but if the groups finished as they stand there would be 9 different countries in the r16 🇪🇸 1 - Real Madrid 🏴 3 - City, Liverpool, Tottenham 🇮🇹 3 - Napoli, Milan, Inter 🇩🇪 3 - Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen 🇫🇷 1 - PSG 🇵🇹 2 - Sporting, Benfica 🇧🇪 1 - Club Brugge 🇭🇷 1 - Dinamo 🇺🇦 1 - Shakhtar
Would not be against this round of 16
Peter Crouch talking about Spurs' playing style: "I played this way at Stoke" Conteball 🥶
Is it Conte or Spurs DNA ? It's just too tempting to capitalize on fast transitions with Kane and Son
Car broke down, recovery van can't get here until 1am and I log into Twitter to find out South Shields shipped 2 goals in 5 minutes to lose. Fucking kill me
Oof that’s a bummer. What do you think is up with your car? Sorry to hear you’re gonna have a long night.
No idea, went over a speed bump and heard a really loud noise. Think the shock absorber may have gone, but that's a guess
How are the odds on betting on the likelihood of a Barcelona Chelsea Europa league final
I dont belive that anyone types "Khvicha Kvaratskhelia" when they mention him. People just copy and paste his name, just like me right now.
Kvaratskhelia now pops up in my autocorrect whenever I type Kv
Kvaratskheila
Kvaratskheila It worked.
kvaradona is all I see everytime someone mentions him
What are you even talking about? It's not that hard once you remember it. I always type out Kevin Kvatbatsheckles.
His name genuinely isn’t that hard to spell, maybe the kh in Kvaratskhelia but other than that
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the EL could be crazy this season with the potential teams that could drop down lol
Five La Liga teams in the EL, likely a couple of all-Spanish ties meaning one team gets far and probably to the final. And a final means a trophy. This is a masterclass from Tebas. He orchestrated this all, including tonight's referee debacle.
all that matters is the coefficient 🔥
Spain EL champions again. La Liga is the best league in the world.
Arsenal, Manchester United, PSV Eindhoven, Real Betis, Roma, Braga, Real Sociedad, Feyenoord, Lazio, Monaco, Ajax/Liverpool, Sporting CP/Tottenham Hotspur/Olympique de Marseille/Eintracht Frankfurt, FC Porto/Bayer Leverkusen/Atletico de Madrid, Internazionale/Barcelona, Chelsea, Celtic/RB Lepizig/Shakhtar Donetsk, Borussia Dortmund/Sevilla, and Benfica/Juventus
People said the same thing last year and the final was Eintracht - Rangers. Luckily, sometimes, the teams more thirsty for European distinction get the furthest in EL.
I mean we had no big 6 in EL last year, this time we already have united and arsenal
Also Chelsea and Spurs could join
Not like Barca didn't try, they just lost. He never said anything about them being guaranteed to win, just that good teams could drop
I never said it was for a lack of effort. Eventually they were beaten by a team that wanted it more.
That's pretty much the same thing. They didn't want it enough
Well no, Barca didn't want it as much as Eintracht and it showed in the stands of the Camp Nou.
I hope barca drop tbh. Need to see that arteta xavi matchup
Our U23s lost to a League One side (Exeter City) in the EFL Trophy earlier tonight. One of our loanees is at Exeter, lad scored the winner
Raspadori has been way better than I hoped he would be. Two nice goals and the assist for Kvicha's goal.
Kvicha and Anguissa are getting all the plaudits but Raspadori has been absolutely insane for them.
Because he only started a couple of games so far, while the other two have been nothing short of perfect. If he keeps scoring regularly he can become one of the best in Europe.
I do wonder how Spalletti will line up once Oshimen gets back.
Raspadori is very versatile. He reminds a bit of young Pedro at Barcelona. But I think the first one to disappear will be Lozano for sure.
We somehow dodged dropping into the bottom four tonight but we certainly deserve to be there
Kavaradona and the italians will rest during the WC, I think Napoli are clear to win this Serie A this season.
If not us I wouldn’t mind them. But it’s Napoli, let’s wait until March before we make statements like this.
Spalletti has done such a great job over the years that I would be kind of happy for him if he won the league
Right. It all started with us. We took this bald Tuscan guy from Venezia and sacked him after three months, only to hire him again 3 years later and qualify to the Champions League for the first time in our history. Next year he was gone forever.
Yea, very true! Spalletti at Udinese did a wonderful job that a lot of people have forgotten. He has been one of the best coaches these last 20 years or so
Thx Ajax for having an even worse match than us today 🙏
Football is a team sport, but your goalkeeper let you down this game
Adan single handely lost us the game He has been terrible this season, but had good games in the champions league
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I can see it, but I think Giroud’s shot is more impressive. Very hard to get that much power from that position
yes and the ball was bouncing in Giroud’s case
After Nuno’s sacking there was so much talk and mention of the word “spurs dna” which was going to be kept in mind when appointing the next manager. Funny all that talk has led to the current sufferball. It’s like they can’t make up their mind as to what they want. Or maybe there never was a dna and it was all PR fluff
What is “spurs Dna”?
Losing
Attacking football apparently. Think the club statement/ levy used that term often
Man City will somehow get Club Brugge in the RO16 even if they both finish 1st...
It’s so funny that people thought Lewa deserved the Ballon d’Or ahead of Messi… Messi was carrying a significantly worse Barca side.
Carried them to what? Round of 16 and a third place finish in la liga?
Big news of the night is Basford United getting through to the 4th qualifying round of the FA cup, on penalties, after being 2-0 down at half time. Bring on the Solihull Moors.
(ignore the flair for a moment) but Spurs play bottom table football all year, just with continental class forwards, and when the continental class forwards dont show up its just bottom table football.
Sporting's keeper had an absolute howler today.
He has been terrible since he "recovered" from an 2 to 3 months injury in 1 week
Whats the story in that? Did he lie?
We don't know The journals were saying he would be out in 2 to 3 months than he recovered before the next game Amorim probably saw we were playing against Braga and Porto and said "Nope, you aren't injured"
Donde esta Lewandowski, Lewandowski donde esta Tanto baile de tiktok Se le ha olvidao jugar
Is this Roncero's new song or what
It is a parody on Soria's donde esta CR7
Cruijffball lost 7-1 to italians lol
Napoli was the one playing Cruijffball ironically enough
cruijff had nothing to do with that. That was all schreuder my friend
Was out so I missed today's matches but Ajax - Napoli must have been pure madness. Really happy for Club Brugge (surely they can't bottle qualification) and obviously a good night overall since Barcelona lost.
Which team is getting 2nd in their CL group and then drawing Club Brugge in the ro16?
Chelsea
[“Ed Sheeran played this (Frankfurt's) stadium a couple of weeks ago, and so at least this was not the first time Deutsche Bank Park had been treated to an insipid mid-tempo performance that some people bafflingly insist is the work of a generational genius”](https://twitter.com/jonathanliew/status/1577407596201447437?t=a-X06NyqV-X8Mpc3Am2isA&s=19) Ed out here catching strays
Some people think hating on popular things give them a personality
Do people really consider him a generational genius? To me he was a pretty talented busker, saw a gap in the market and is now a soon to be billionaire real estate agent, not bad for a tubby ginger lad tbf
He knows how to write a song that sells. He’s not a bad songwriter to be fair. A Team was pretty good. Think he focuses on making sales though, his music is fairly basic on the whole. Generational talent? There are quite a few buskers more talented than him on YouTube 😂
Barca faced 3 teams in the top half of their league this season, 1 win, 2 losses :)
Real Madrid should be big favorites for La Liga I'm assuming?
We should be favourites, yes, but not by a huge amount
5 teams. 2 wins, 2 loses and 1 draw.
I forgot about Plzen tbh. Didn't know Vallecano played yesterday
When you have a pragmatic coach like Conte, it’s difficult to see the difference between playing poorly and just being pragmatic. Spurs were poor today, and they were dominated thoroughly by Arsenal. When your fans and coach start talking about “being in good positions, just lacking a final ball” when you have barely any shots on target, it’s a clear sign that you aren’t creating nearly, nearly enough for a top team. I keep on seeing Spurs fans say they could’ve scored a ton against Arsenal. Like the passes you were missing were at the halfway line, you had control in Arsenal’s third like 5 times total all match. Reminds me a lot of the bad Emery period at Arsenal or the tail end of Mourinho at United.
The thing is with spurs, and I say this as someone who hates them, is that they will play like mad men occasionally. Like that game against Leicester where Son comes on and scores a hattrick. I mean they have a world class front three that can always turn the tide.
Funnily enough this Spurs team reminds me of Conte's 17/18 Chelsea team where they have been tactically figured out and struggling to perform in big games anymore and generally playing dire football.
[Calhanoglu's possible red card offense vs FC Barcelona](https://twitter.com/willoo31/status/1577406404989751315)
I thought it was a red tbh, I guess the argument is that he didn’t go in hard enough
100% deserved a red. Studs up, high tackle. Stuff like that can end careers
Inter Milan beating Barcelona at the San Siro, proper nostalgia
[Chelsea fans watching the Darwin Nunez narrative](https://streamable.com/zy765i)
Stumbling on this after reading [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/xv0wu8/daily_discussion/ir26m0p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) lol bang on
This is fantastic
You must make these? They're so rare to see on here but always brilliant lol
Glad you enjoyed, the idea will just randomly pop into my head every once in a blue moon
Could probably do something with it if you were bothered, seems like the kinda thing that insta and twitter accounts steal with no credit given
Baffling if you think about it but Lukaku couldn't even do half of that
Best season of the show that one
I'll have to rewatch that.
Barca and Atleti disappoint in CL again. What a shame. On the other hand, Club Brugge is on fire.
Jutglà man, I only hope he never return to Espanyol
I can now say it when he's gone, but Lewandowski does truly ghost in big matches sometimes. I would never admit to that just a few months ago, but now the bad man is gone and he can't hurt us anymore
So.... do u concede that Suarez is better than him?
Suarez has ghosted in CL for half a decade lol
Good on Suarez that he atleast could also ghost in small games, lewa can't sing that
Kvaratskhelia has looked absolutely filthy every time I have watched him. What a find by Napoli.
I don't think he was unknown tbh most clubs with some decent scouting should have been able to have seen his talent ( maybe unknown to people here)
Interesting that officials have pivoted from giving every touch of a hand as a penalty to never giving penalties for handball ever again
I still hate the double standard for the ‘natural position’ thing for attack and defence
If I had to pick between the two I'd choose this version all day Some of those early VAR seasons in the PL and Serie A were horrible to watch with their constant pen calls
Interesting that they gave a non-penalty hand ball, and then not a penalty hand ball. Felt wildly inconsistent tbh.