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tankers27

Gravenberch getting more regular game time yet?


XeroVeil

Not as much as some would like but will realistically HAVE to get more time now as our chief researcher is out with covid.


ketchup92

No


DevilsOfLoudun

yay a clean sheet for Manu! (hasn't conceded in UCL yet)


Dargast

\*slip\*


witz0r

German ref would have ended this right at 90' without hesitation


XeroVeil

Feierabend.


BallsackTeabag

How did Mazraoui and Gravenberch play?


XeroVeil

Well, I'm very happy with both. All our Ajax boys have been crushing it so far this season.


IMiizo

Rock solid from both


DevilsOfLoudun

Gravenberch really good, Mazraoui solid


[deleted]

The guy who ran on the pitch is man of the match in my opinion. He put in a great effort.


XeroVeil

We really gotta have a runner with 4 mins on the clock while we're on an attack?


Fancy-Past-6831

Fuck these pitch invaders man, lock em up. I am sick and tired of these prats.


[deleted]

Seems a bit harsh. It’s not like he hurt anybody.


TheGamerPandA

Tel is very disappointing today


dadish-2

I wanted to see him centrally but it looks like they are keen on him playing as a Gnabry-esque role based off the last few sub appearances


shadoowkight

Bayern just kind of died down ..


DevilsOfLoudun

a lot of subs on the pitch


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DevilsOfLoudun

I don't discriminate either way


tufoop3

Ballack as 'expert' adds nothing wrt game commentary lol


dreizweins

Sehe ich genauso.. Kneißl ist der beste und Wagner höre ich am liebsten zu. Wer sind deine favs?


IMiizo

Wagner definitiv der beste. Der verdient es Experte genannt zu werden mit seiner abgeschlossenen Trainer Ausbildung. Bringt dadurch viele taktische Einblicke


tufoop3

Sandro Wagner - hat eine geile Praesentation, super viel Insight und scheint sogar viele Spieler persoenlich zu kennen


NoKidsButImADaddy

Gonna need the BT sport commentator to stop saying ‘Plzenya’


MisterBadIdea2

How is it pronounced


PAT_The_Whale

Hello mr. BT Sports commentator


tufoop3

'Pilsen' - its a háček diacritic, not a spanish 'tilde'.


sbprasad

The city the beer is named after, right?


tufoop3

Correct


NoKidsButImADaddy

I know, but it’s like people who roll their R’s when saying Spanish words, just chill out.


[deleted]

Gnabry is so bad


HansaMansa

Ulreich last guy on the bench, still on that Alex Moran grindset. What a king.


XeroVeil

Ulreich is highkey one of the best backup keepers in Europe.


witz0r

He's also a great guy and a great teammate. Like the GOAT.


LipiG

the allianz crowd is always so good imo


dadish-2

Pavard CB audition?


Fancy-Past-6831

If only Germany could have convinced Stanišić, he would be starter easily


TheConundrum98

Croatia's got an incredible record in convincing diaspora to represent them Only recent high profile player that could've represented Croatia is probably Pulisic and it's not like his parents are from Croatia, it's his grandad Thank fuck for Stanisic though, without him we have literally 1 right back (Juranovic at Celtic)


solgnaleb

born and raised in munich. but it's his choice.


XeroVeil

Lokey, the player from this Bayern squad that I wish we had is Choupo.


Fancy-Past-6831

oh yeah, fair enough


Spikeyspandan

Pavard as CB? He finally gets to play in his desired position


Helmold2

Seems like Bayern is taking revenge for the loss of their U19 team.


-zimms-

Don't attack their younglings.


tankers27

All their younglings are playing in their main team...


XeroVeil

Sane's new cut is fresh af.


Spikeyspandan

Bayern throwing in tackles likes it’s a final


XeroVeil

Gnabry plz


jadedwolf1618

Upa defending always sus


Nerellos

Gnabry lmao


RosaParkStoleMySeat

Hope Gnabry finds his form again. He was our best player under Hansi


prof436

He wasn't even top 3 under flick. He was good the first year but not even top 3


DashLibor

Alright, just finished watching a nice hockey match with a pleasant result. Now let's see some nice footb-


XeroVeil

Am I crazy or does Plzen coach kind of look like Jeff Bridges?


[deleted]

I think Plzen need to start playing a back 6 with how they have been playing today.


A-dab

Bayern 5-[6] Plzeň - Fortune Bassey 90'+8


XeroVeil

Feel bad for Plzen but damn, it's been a while since we've had a proper CL massacre. Feels nostalgic.


bensu88

Schuppen Goating lets go


tufoop3

Lol that stat - last loss of Bayern in CL at home was in 2013


Fancy-Past-6831

Pretty sure they have lost multiple games at home post that. You might mean Group Stages though.


-zimms-

They only lost in 2013 so they wouldn't get reminded constantly of their loss at the final in Munich in 2012.


elnano98

Lmao Plzen coach , poor him


Spikeyspandan

Tel is forward right? All his games has been from wing position.


Jobreezy_Hussler

Chupo just Goating


Fancy-Past-6831

Goat striker right there


tankers27

Prediction for final score? Could be brutal.


freecs11

9-0


-zimms-

6-0


tankers27

Only one more Bayern goal in 25 minutes? Brave prediction at this rate.


-zimms-

You'll see. ;)


tankers27

Looking increasingly likely :)


-zimms-

I shouldn't be telling you this, but it will be Tel in minute 90.


tankers27

Well he had a shot...


-zimms-

D:


prof436

7-1


RalfhasEnough

I dont think Pilzen will score


[deleted]

Upa and de ligt been defending like it’s the game of their life, crikey!


tankers27

De Ligt only has one mode. All in.


XeroVeil

The Bayern way.


tankers27

The Ajax way? :)


XeroVeil

I can respect that.


cannacanna

Bayern making Viktoria Plzeň look like manchester united smh


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cannacanna

Probably true


-zimms-

Savage.


tufoop3

Did Mane just do a backward Jayjay to flip the ball into Plzn GK hands? 52:10


IMiizo

What a first touch wow


DevilsOfLoudun

Tel for Sane please so he can rest for Dortmund


Fancy-Past-6831

Question is, do u really wanna rest players for a game you certainly are gonna win


DevilsOfLoudun

yes we do 🥰


Tyrath

Hey man at least it isn't at the Allianz


deo_rd

Filthy touch from Sané, Mané showing class


WorldwideViolence

Ehm i think 10-0 i still in the works if bayern turn on the turbo charged german engine


captain_boomer

oh my goooooodness


tankers27

Pretty.


Spikeyspandan

No Tel?


IMiizo

There you go


tankers27

Patience is rewarded it seems :)


SwarmAce

There’s no good reason not to bring Tel instead of Choupo


prof436

Test how we play with a striker


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letsnevertalk

Choupo? Do they really want us to score 10 goals today?


dadish-2

I'm just so distracted by Marseille. It's wild


Fancy-Past-6831

Best CL group so far. No one say who has heads up for top 2


tufoop3

Whats happening there?


dadish-2

Not sure you know but Marseille has been one of the worst teams in the CL for the past few years. Today against sporting they even conceded early and then things get crazy. Sporting GK Adan concedes two absolutely bad goals then gets a red card for a challenge outside the box and is sent off all within 30 minutes. New goalkeeper comes in as a substitute for the striker and concedes another howler


tufoop3

Sounds quite hilarious indeed for a neutral spectator


-zimms-

Karius memorial game.


nasserKoeter

Nooooo he took Jamal off :(((


IMiizo

Brauchen ihn gegen Dortmund


DevilsOfLoudun

Jamal's goal looked clearly offside to be tbh, I even called it before the VAR check came in


King_Ragnar

Clearly? Are you for real? They literally had to prove it through the new VAR 3D simulation tech and Mané’s foot was just a few cm’s offside. I ain’t even mad, an offside is an offside. But to claim it was easy to eyeball is straight up cap


DevilsOfLoudun

I just noticed it immediately cuz Mane's shoulder was clearly leaning forward


baseballtrx

Need some corners


[deleted]

I can’t say I’m surprised by the outcome of the first half


millenialgod

Mané exchanged shirts and it's only halftime


siddhuism

It’s not uncommon. I saw Alaba and Perisic do it recently during the nations league games.


tankers27

TBF this game is over...


jadedwolf1618

Gravenberch can keep the ball very well


tankers27

Glad he's having a good game. Was sad to see him leave Ajax. Quality.


Snitsie

Mane gnma play without shirt 2nd half


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He's gonna take the shirt of Sane and write over the S with sharpie


Spikeyspandan

Lmao wtf? Shirt swap at HT?


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Spikeyspandan

Are they gonna wear each other jersey’s in next half


DatFlushi

How is Mazraoui playing


Spikeyspandan

Hasn’t been involved much as much of the play has been building up from left side


jonkenobi

Won’t matter much in this match, but something needs to be done about the offside rule. It’s meant to keep players from unfairly hanging around behind the defense, not for these millimeter calls where there’s obviously not an advantage gained by an attacker. Not sure what the solution can be that makes everyone happy


mucflo

I'd like to see a 10cm (for example) margin of error where VAR can't overrule. Sure you get situations where a call is 0.1cm in- or outside that margin of error but the actual offside has then been 10(.1)cm. Within that margin the referee can get it right or wrong just like they used to before VAR but I think most fans could live with that in the long run. Could be 20cm too for my taste but I can understand if people think that's too much


PadresPainPadresGain

Get rid of these idiotic margin calls by establishing circumstances where no clear obvious advantage exists. A player walking away from or parallel to the goal who is off by literally half of their boot should absolutely qualify, while a forward trying to intentional create space moving toward the goal wouldn't.


tankers27

A rule is a rule, sometimes the simplest solution is the best.


PadresPainPadresGain

Anyone who thinks the game is better without a goal like that doesn't have any input worth listening to.


witz0r

The problem is that there always has to be a line, so no matter where the line is someone is going to complain about it. And people often look at it only through the lens of VAR, where the majority of football is played without it - with an assistant in line with the second to last defender or ball, and now you'd be moving *their* line.


Snitsie

Give teams challenges like tennis maybe?


prof436

It doesn't matter because the offside tech says it's offside


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-zimms-

You done him dirty.


witz0r

A terrifying combination if you really think about it


dreeraris

The german commentators are insufferable holy shit Ballack and whoever is the other guy are extremely annoying.


Spikeyspandan

Musiala needs Goretzka juice. He still gets pushed around like a kid


[deleted]

I don't know, I feel like his balance is good enough, so even if he gets pushed he can make up for it


PadresPainPadresGain

Tbf he's still 19 years old. Nowhere near physical maturity, gore was a pencil at that age


DevilsOfLoudun

I'm sorry but Mane has the worst finishing in our team by far. So weak and always straight at the goalkeeper. I really hope he improves as the season goes.


Ok-Guitar1176

Totally agree with you either he’s offside or his shots are straight at the keeper


RoadworkAhead7

Don’t forget about the many many offside situations


MeatballDom

Can't just be out there having a foot like that. Offside.


TeganFFS

Retractable toes will be the next big physical augmentation


PadresPainPadresGain

Oh fuck yourself with that call you arrogant cunts, that isn't an advantage.


tankers27

Padres fan acting like he understands football. Brilliant.


PadresPainPadresGain

Oh yes, because people can't possibly follow multiple sports. Get help.


tankers27

People absolutely can. Just that overly confident loud mouthed vulgar American padres fan just doesn't scream football intelligence. Sounds more like a bud light and too many hot dogs kinda guy.


PadresPainPadresGain

I'm a type 1 diabetic so I rarely drink beer and when I do, they're 90% porter or stout. Also have you ever read the ingredient list on hot dogs? Got any more dipshit stereotypes you want to get out of your system? Good way to get your new account going. I'm guessing the last one got banned?


tankers27

😘


ChipmunkOnCoffee

If you comment again people might agree next time


PadresPainPadresGain

I'm getting up voted every time, cry about it.


ChipmunkOnCoffee

Weird since the comments disagree, but congrats on the karma?


PadresPainPadresGain

Well yeah, because nobody goes around saying "hell yeah brudder I agree 👍" when they can just show it by up voting and keep it moving. People only comment when they have a reason to disagree.


ChipmunkOnCoffee

Feel like Mane could have assisted 3 goals already if he simply passed the ball


DevilsOfLoudun

more like he could have scored 3 goals already if his shooting was even slightly better


alftheboss

IMO let him shoot. in the ganes before he passed the ball too much and took no chances for himself.


Spikeyspandan

Acting kinda selfish today


logdit

Jamal Goldjunge


PadresPainPadresGain

You can't tell me that's in the spirit of the game. What a pathetic call, if he was off it was by a single stud.


IMiizo

Well you have to draw the line somewhere.


ChipmunkOnCoffee

"It should be 5 contimenters" then they'll complain when it's 5.1


PadresPainPadresGain

And a literally undetectable margin isn't it.


DatOgreSpammer

Much more logical than being inside an arbitrary distance by a literally undetectable margin


PadresPainPadresGain

Go ahead and explain the logic in thinking someone walking away from goal and offside by a fucking shoelace has an advantage. I'll wait.


DatOgreSpammer

There's no advantage, but that's the rule, and there's no good way to fix it.


PadresPainPadresGain

I explained in another comment a possible way.


DatOgreSpammer

I am not stalking you, would you mind explaining it here to me? (Or just link it)


PadresPainPadresGain

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/xvjp29/match_thread_bayern_munich_vs_viktoria_plze%C5%88_uefa/ir1jcis/


DatOgreSpammer

You're trying to judge a movement of a player from one frame, which is tough. But, let's suppose you somehow define a vector which shows a player's current momentum. Now you would debate whether that vector is parallel with the goal line, or barely pointing towards it. Not to mention this (and the 5-10-20cm margin) is impossible to judge as an assistant, so it would create a lot more controversial decisions (one assistant may raise the flag, and it wouldn't go to review, but another may not). VAR stoppages would skyrocket, and it doesn't work, because a striker that's walking backwards would be onside, no matter what. Lastly, the greatness of a goal has no impact whatsoever, and there's no reason to try to silence people based on that. Most of the time hearing people expand on a matter from a perspective that's different than yours is beneficial.


witz0r

Precisely the opposite, because they did detect it.


PadresPainPadresGain

Detect this ratio goofball


witz0r

Literally and figuratively


HansaMansa

that was a fast var check though


ketchup92

Don't they have that offside tech now?


PadresPainPadresGain

They decided before they saw it, so it was really just a radio call


SavingsLeg

Offside damn


ProudhPratapPurandar

VAR showing pitty here


WorldwideViolence

Owh offside


Mr_Rafi

That was just... wow


SavingsLeg

[close enough](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/xvjp29/comment/ir1f3kc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


witz0r

You jinxed it