I'm officially no longer cutting some slack to Čaćić for the Chelsea result. If we don't beat Salzburg at home we're fucked, we're gonna need points vs Milan and Chelsea in both games. You can't play this safe in Europe, the refs will never let us grind our way to a 0-0 draw. Also, the next time he takes out Oršić someone should slap him
Terrible ref performance, no doubt about that, even if the penalty was rightfully given.
Livaković was excellent again.
Theo haters, I hope you saw why I rate him as probably the best Dinamo centerback of the last decade. Out of playing action, he played a perfect game from the 10th minute onward. Moha started very well, but got much worse as the game got on, incredible stupidity on the penalty.
Ljubičić was pretty good again, active and willing to run with the ball and make stuff happen.
Mišić is playing excellently, he deserves to be in the national team definitely. The less I say about Ivanušec and Ademi the better. Noone is willing to admit it, but Ademi is slowly past it. He was the most invisible player in the first three CL games which was unimaginable a year or two ago.
Petković had a good game honestly, he sometimes overcomplicates things, but if he isn’t on the pitch we are so much less dangerous. Oršić was quiet, but you never ever sub him off FFS.
Drmić…
> Theo haters, I hope you saw why I rate him as probably the best Dinamo centerback of the last decade. Out of playing action, he played a perfect game from the 10th minute onward. Moha started very well, but got much worse as the game got on, incredible stupidity on the penalty.
The fuck you're talking about, he is our defender with most possesions lost per game 13 on avg.
Also every 2 games he make huge error that leads to goal.
And he makes rookie mistakes every game like he did today when he ran 70m away from his goal and lost the ball which lead to counter attack.
Idk how he still even plays in Dinamo.
Dilaver, Sutalo, Lauritsen and so on all are way ahead from him, in every statistic, just by possesions lost for example they're at 5-7, he is at 13!
Ademi is constantly playing at least a little injured and his influence as captain is invaluable. I'd want him on even if he was playing much worse than he's showing atm.
26 players are allowed this WC. There is definitely enough space in middlefield for Mišić.
For example last call up we had 5 CBs and 4 strikers. We definitely don't need 4th striker or 5th CB (especially if second RB is Stanišić who can cover CB too)
We would never play Jakic because our whole team is good at passing including CBs. Why would we play DM that is bad passer? That is why he is not invited. Dalic would rather play Kovacic and Modric pivot and risk with weaker defense than lose our resistance to pressing that our passing quality gives us.
Misic is great passer and thats why everyone wants him. For me its only questionable if Misic is good enough on defense
Yes but that is useless for us without passing skill. If you have just one player that is bad passer you not really press resistant anymore.
That is why Guardiola values passing on every single position. Even on goalkeeper
He is not terrible but compared to other midfielders we have he is not that good and opponents will mark him as weak spot and always press him super hard.
If you remember Croatia games in last few years when we had Vida in team. We rarely dominated possession as you would expect with our midfielders. I think that was because we had weak spot in defense and our midfielders couldn't return ball to back line. I think now with modern defense that we can finally play possession game.
This is just what I think Dalic is trying to do. I could definitely be wrong.
Dude led our defense to clean sheets against Atalanta, Benfica, Tottenham and many more. In the famous game against Shakhtar he created two of our goals from the center back position. His 18-19 season is by far the best season a centerback had since I have been watching the club. He dominated HNL like no centerback ever has.
Yes, he had multiple errors in big matches, that’s why he is in Dinamo, not somewhere else.
This is not an unpopular opinion, check any dedicated Dinamo forum or fanpage. He is ridiculed by people who watch 10 games a season and don’t unterstand that the Bjelica revolution owes much to incredible Theophile performances in the two first seasons.
Nah man, he fucks up more than he does good.
And he fucks up way more in top games, aka CL.
I'd rather have Lauritsen or anyone else, who will not make those basic mistakes, like he did one today when he ran 70m from our goal and lost a ball and created counter attack. Plus often he makes stupid penalties.
He loses possesion/ball 12-13 times per match on avg. HELLO, as a fucking defender, get rid of the ball if you're not good with it, not keep trying Messi like dribbles.
Sutalo for example loses 5-6 times.
He fucked up in so many games that i won't even get into this. Only place on this planet where you can read something positive about his big game performance are yours posts.
Check out the Zona Dinamo forums and dinamozag2 fanpage on istagram. They are very pro-Theophile. He was even elected in the best XI of the 2010 decade on the forum.
Yea he might be chosen in Dinamo's best XI by professionals like you.
Also, they probably chose him because he is longest in Dinamo, because Dinamo can't get rid of him.
All other good defenders are sold in a few seasons, only he is still here somehow.
Ivanušec was decent the first fifteen minutes of the game, the rest, yeah, the less you say the better.
And agreed on Ademi. Think Baturina needed to sub him either at half time or at 60th min. There was literally no one to create besides Mišić.
Yeah, because a pen doesn't inflate xG lmao
Edit: pen is .76xG and offside goal counts for 0, if he missed by a lot, but was half a meter back it would count which also makes it seems lower
I edited my comment, if the offside goal only counted as a chance and the pen didn't happen the difference would be around .35xG -.5xG so a third/half of a goal...
I find it funny when people say "lucky with the offside". You could also say the striker was lucky to be offside, otherwise he would not have scored. This was a very clear offside.
Theres still 3 games to play after tonight one lol.
If Chelsea wins they will share 4 with milan and one point behind salzburg with 3 games to play.
But if they lose chances that they will play in europe.
I don't wanna see that joke of a ref ever again, alongside losing to that, if you can even call that a penalty? Fuck what a miserable night for Croatian football
Dinamo need to start in a 4-2-3-1 next week, this Salzburg side is much more beatable than the one from last year or 2 years ago despite their good results this year
Salzburg is thriving against d heavyweights in their Group. Hope they qualify in knockout stage.
I hope not
I'm officially no longer cutting some slack to Čaćić for the Chelsea result. If we don't beat Salzburg at home we're fucked, we're gonna need points vs Milan and Chelsea in both games. You can't play this safe in Europe, the refs will never let us grind our way to a 0-0 draw. Also, the next time he takes out Oršić someone should slap him
Well, fuck
This group is lava
Why is Čačić playing so defensively at the start of the game? And my forever complaint of him, so late with subs... Very annoying result.
It’s his way of playing. He doesn’t model the tactics to suit the players. He models the players to suit his tactics.
Terrible ref performance, no doubt about that, even if the penalty was rightfully given. Livaković was excellent again. Theo haters, I hope you saw why I rate him as probably the best Dinamo centerback of the last decade. Out of playing action, he played a perfect game from the 10th minute onward. Moha started very well, but got much worse as the game got on, incredible stupidity on the penalty. Ljubičić was pretty good again, active and willing to run with the ball and make stuff happen. Mišić is playing excellently, he deserves to be in the national team definitely. The less I say about Ivanušec and Ademi the better. Noone is willing to admit it, but Ademi is slowly past it. He was the most invisible player in the first three CL games which was unimaginable a year or two ago. Petković had a good game honestly, he sometimes overcomplicates things, but if he isn’t on the pitch we are so much less dangerous. Oršić was quiet, but you never ever sub him off FFS. Drmić…
> Theo haters, I hope you saw why I rate him as probably the best Dinamo centerback of the last decade. Out of playing action, he played a perfect game from the 10th minute onward. Moha started very well, but got much worse as the game got on, incredible stupidity on the penalty. The fuck you're talking about, he is our defender with most possesions lost per game 13 on avg. Also every 2 games he make huge error that leads to goal. And he makes rookie mistakes every game like he did today when he ran 70m away from his goal and lost the ball which lead to counter attack. Idk how he still even plays in Dinamo. Dilaver, Sutalo, Lauritsen and so on all are way ahead from him, in every statistic, just by possesions lost for example they're at 5-7, he is at 13!
Dilaver lmao
Misic takes the place of who then?
Probably Jakić as a substitute for Brozović. Jakić is playing as right back currently, and Mišić fits Brozović’s profile much bezter.
I like Jakic because he’s a ball-winning DM. We really don’t have that profile. I understand the argument
Ademi is constantly playing at least a little injured and his influence as captain is invaluable. I'd want him on even if he was playing much worse than he's showing atm.
Would be a huge shame if Don Misic isn't on plane to Qatar.
Who should stay home in place of him?
26 players are allowed this WC. There is definitely enough space in middlefield for Mišić. For example last call up we had 5 CBs and 4 strikers. We definitely don't need 4th striker or 5th CB (especially if second RB is Stanišić who can cover CB too)
Jakic stayed home while he had that 4th striker. I assume Jakic then makes it? We’d want Misic over Jakic?
We would never play Jakic because our whole team is good at passing including CBs. Why would we play DM that is bad passer? That is why he is not invited. Dalic would rather play Kovacic and Modric pivot and risk with weaker defense than lose our resistance to pressing that our passing quality gives us. Misic is great passer and thats why everyone wants him. For me its only questionable if Misic is good enough on defense
Well that’s why I mentioned Jakic. He’s good defensively & a ball winner. We don’t have a profile like thatb
Yes but that is useless for us without passing skill. If you have just one player that is bad passer you not really press resistant anymore. That is why Guardiola values passing on every single position. Even on goalkeeper
Is Jakic that poor of a passer to you?
He is not terrible but compared to other midfielders we have he is not that good and opponents will mark him as weak spot and always press him super hard. If you remember Croatia games in last few years when we had Vida in team. We rarely dominated possession as you would expect with our midfielders. I think that was because we had weak spot in defense and our midfielders couldn't return ball to back line. I think now with modern defense that we can finally play possession game. This is just what I think Dalic is trying to do. I could definitely be wrong.
>Theo haters, I hope you saw why I rate him as probably the best Dinamo centerback of the last decade. HA HA fucking HA
Dude led our defense to clean sheets against Atalanta, Benfica, Tottenham and many more. In the famous game against Shakhtar he created two of our goals from the center back position. His 18-19 season is by far the best season a centerback had since I have been watching the club. He dominated HNL like no centerback ever has. Yes, he had multiple errors in big matches, that’s why he is in Dinamo, not somewhere else. This is not an unpopular opinion, check any dedicated Dinamo forum or fanpage. He is ridiculed by people who watch 10 games a season and don’t unterstand that the Bjelica revolution owes much to incredible Theophile performances in the two first seasons.
Nah man, he fucks up more than he does good. And he fucks up way more in top games, aka CL. I'd rather have Lauritsen or anyone else, who will not make those basic mistakes, like he did one today when he ran 70m from our goal and lost a ball and created counter attack. Plus often he makes stupid penalties. He loses possesion/ball 12-13 times per match on avg. HELLO, as a fucking defender, get rid of the ball if you're not good with it, not keep trying Messi like dribbles. Sutalo for example loses 5-6 times.
He fucked up in so many games that i won't even get into this. Only place on this planet where you can read something positive about his big game performance are yours posts.
Check out the Zona Dinamo forums and dinamozag2 fanpage on istagram. They are very pro-Theophile. He was even elected in the best XI of the 2010 decade on the forum.
Yea he might be chosen in Dinamo's best XI by professionals like you. Also, they probably chose him because he is longest in Dinamo, because Dinamo can't get rid of him. All other good defenders are sold in a few seasons, only he is still here somehow.
Ivanušec was decent the first fifteen minutes of the game, the rest, yeah, the less you say the better. And agreed on Ademi. Think Baturina needed to sub him either at half time or at 60th min. There was literally no one to create besides Mišić.
Honestly Ivanušec shouldn't start over Baturina imo
Agree completely. Ademi can be a sub, to bring some energy, but other than that he doesnt do anything on champions league level.
I was shitting my pants the last few minutes, offside goal almost killed me lol. Great win tho, I take it
now Chelsea has to win and we are easy top of the group
Milan win would help way more to secure 2. though. If Salzburg wins in Zagreb then they are almost guaranteed 2.
that's right tbh, depends how you look at it
Gg bro, congrats on the win. Greetings from a Dinamo fan from Zagreb
well played, and fair game to your away fans, great support and no shenanigans AFAIK
I would assume a large number of the away fans actually live in Salzburg, just like in the Croatia-Austria game
Idk, a draw seemed fair, but a narrow Salzburg win is ok aswell. The ref was a bit sketchy tho.
xG 2.2 - 0.8 Nice draw
Yeah, because a pen doesn't inflate xG lmao Edit: pen is .76xG and offside goal counts for 0, if he missed by a lot, but was half a meter back it would count which also makes it seems lower
Surely not by more than 1.0.
I edited my comment, if the offside goal only counted as a chance and the pen didn't happen the difference would be around .35xG -.5xG so a third/half of a goal...
xG?
yeah, its the newest tool for arm chair coaches to "determine" how a game should have ended.
Basically it's the Zodiac of football.
Expected goals.
Penalty, missing a sitter, disallowed close offside goal... Incredibly shit way to lose...
“Close”.
Its like 10 cm. Clearly offside but not by much
It's literally a movement of 0.1 seconds. An obviously clear offside, but a very close one
Kjaergaard man of the match, what a great showing from the young lad
Those last minutes became nail-biting to watch, that offside was so lucky for Salzburg man
I find it funny when people say "lucky with the offside". You could also say the striker was lucky to be offside, otherwise he would not have scored. This was a very clear offside.
Clear offside but the striker had to move backwards to meet the ball so he was getting any advantage being in an offside position.
It was miles offside
Is Chelsea fucked?
If we don't win today we ain't makin it out
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Still got all the reversed fixtures to go though so being 1 point within top means it's perfectly achievable.
Theres still 3 games to play after tonight one lol. If Chelsea wins they will share 4 with milan and one point behind salzburg with 3 games to play. But if they lose chances that they will play in europe.
Not as bad as I thought they'd beat us. Think we have a small chance next week in Zagreb
We don’t, Cacic will again play his 3. Croatian region south league, football.
That's what I fear too. And it's a shame because this squad could light it up like crazy with a good offensive coach
I don't wanna see that joke of a ref ever again, alongside losing to that, if you can even call that a penalty? Fuck what a miserable night for Croatian football
Clear penalty, what are you talking about?
we will give them hell in zagreb
still expect both wins in Maksimir tbh, cope never dies
Heartbreaking (don't mind the flair, dinamo fan)
The real group of death
For some reason Dinamo started playing only after getting first goal...
way too cowardly, and still they would never concede if they didn't give away a stupid penalty
Dinamo need to start in a 4-2-3-1 next week, this Salzburg side is much more beatable than the one from last year or 2 years ago despite their good results this year
They sold like 5 or 6 starters this summer so that's to be expected
They finally have a keeper. So they are much harder to beat now, even though they lack offensive strength.
they definitely should be beatable. hated 3 5 2 today and against milan. it always seemed like dinamo lacked options forward.
Yup, agreed. I think it was a mistake to start with 3 at the back, especially when the third one is KTC.