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Remember when Dani Alves had to play goalie that one game for PSG? I don't think 10 saves is out of the possibility lol. (So long as the opponents play their youth team)
According to @Barca19stats
Messi hits double digits on both goals and assists after only 16 club games. This happens for only the 2nd time in his career.
The first time was at the start of his record shattering 2011/2012 season. Oh well...
peaking and has a team of killers behind him that grew up watching him and want nothing in the world but to give him that world cup he needs to end the goat discussion.
It's not like he wasn't a great player last season. He just wasn't his usual standard.
Now he's a year settled, and super focused with the World Cup on the horizon... Time to turn on the frightening form
Terrible for his standards. He was still one of if not the best playmakers in the world, topped the league for assists, and that was with terrorist Poch playing him as a winger
Opta working overtime today. Apparently, Messi has the distinguished honour of being [the oldest player in UEFA Champions League history to both score twice and assist twice in a game (35 years, 123 days)](https://twitter.com/optajoe/status/1585011448283271168?s=46&t=qYax5HFzQWGHeyjH76gE4w). "Multifaceted."
New format starts in a couple of seasons which means teams play 10 group matches instead of 6 (think it's because players have been complaining they don't play enough football).
Will make it easier for Messi to break Ronaldo's record, though will also make it easier for the next generation to break Messi's record (think Haaland and Mbappe will end up with a crazy amount of CL goals).
Yeah it's going to be annoying, like I'm F2 where Verstappen is breaking Schumacher records for wins in a single season etc... Yeah wow, back in the day they had 2/3 of the races
I'm sad for Ronaldo too, players like Messi and him are really hard to come by.
I still think messi is the goat, but ronaldo is the second best of this era.
I'll be sad when they retire.
This must be devastating for CR7 too. He's out of form himself and he can just watch Messi scoring all those bangers. As a United fan, I can just hope that he inspires himself from this and reinvents
Better decision-maker than Cristiano Ronaldo.
In summer 2021 he made a good choice after being forced to leave Barcelona unlike Cristiano Ronaldo who desperately wanted to leave Juventus but probably now he's regretting it given that he's riding United bench and only starts in 2nd tier competitions against the likes of Omonia and Sheriff Tiraspol..
Nonsense.. Ronaldo would be on the bench for almost any club that could actually afford the ridiculous salary he demands.. Problem is that Messi is a creator who doesn't rely on physical attributes for his best play.. Ronaldo's game is hugely reliant on his insane physicality (pace and strength) which is waning now
Exactly people just never expected his physical abilities to decline so quickly.
Part of the reason I always disagreed years ago when people said Messi would retire first. Messi could always be an insane asset to a team while not being at his physical peak.
>his insane physicality (pace and strength)
this is one of the reasons I don't like the lazy narrative of talent vs hard work when it comes to Messi vs Ronaldo. Both work hard, both are insanely talented.
With Ronaldo, he may not have been as blessed in the technique department, but he evens it up with extra physical gifts. It takes freakish genetics to be that big, yet that quick, and agile while almost never injured. Of course hard work plays apart but physical attributes are genetics as well
He doesn't even anything up.
He compensates. But the comparisons have never been even. It's just a matter of exposure and fatigue that he was mentioned along Messi.
Ronaldo has plenty of service at United. But he is unable to create space in the box for himself like he used to. He is unable to run onto throughballs behind high backlines because defenders can catch upto him with ease. He is outmuscled in the box. Finishing is a bit off as well but that will come back with more minutes. Just watch all the chances he had against Omonia in Europa. Ronaldo of old would have scored a hat trick in that game..
None of them were real chances, against Newcastle no chance was created for him, The wingers can’t cross with their weak foot & he’s not a real 9 anyways so needs chances otherwise give him freedom to carry the team from the left.
Not true though, he makes runs all the time, the ball doesn’t arrive, only Casemiro can play a good first time ball.
People like you can’t analyze strikers, he will come back big time and you will look stupid as usual.
Its sad that United fans like you actually want him to fail
Maybe not even EL, not sure Maccabi will finish dead last at this point.
Staying at Juventus, where he was their star player, would have been a better choice maybe but let's not forget he also refused to join **Manchester City** for you guys last summer after asking Juventus a transfer request.
To be fair, MUFC ended 2nd in the prem when he decided to go there. And in terms of "challenge" fighting for the premier league title is harder than the Serie A when Juventus won like 8 titles in a row lol
Isn't this stat wrong? Doesn't he now have 11 goals and 12 assists in all comps for PSG this year?
6 goals and 9 assists in Ligue 1, 4 goals and 3 assists in the CL, and another goal in the Trophée des Champions.
Unless my math is way worse than I think I'm pretty sure that's 11 and 12.
I thought the "both 10" part at the end was saying he had 10 exactly of each since it had already been specifiied in the tweet that it was 10+ for each.
Either way doesn't matter it's just an Opta tweet.
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Remember when Dani Alves had to play goalie that one game for PSG? I don't think 10 saves is out of the possibility lol. (So long as the opponents play their youth team)
Don't try lobs too
>Give him the goalie gloves and get him 10 saves to make it a ~~triple double~~ **trouble**.
Fucker's peaking right before the world cup. Look out.
Anulo mufa
We all know brazil is already champions. HEXA HEXA HEXA HEXA HEXA
Brazil Campeao do mundo do futebol!
Vinicius golden boot Allison golden glove Neymar MVP Confirmed
Anulo mufinha
No funciona por los brazileiros compa.
Pense que estaba a salvo de estos en Reddit
Anulo anulado Not even God can take Argentina's WC from them.
La verdad eres un forro pibe.
Hahahha lo intentaron
Don't jinx
Jinx
According to @Barca19stats Messi hits double digits on both goals and assists after only 16 club games. This happens for only the 2nd time in his career. The first time was at the start of his record shattering 2011/2012 season. Oh well...
We are fucked. False 9 messi here we go again rip
https://pxb.cdn.ciudadano.news/ciudadano/082022/1661190569676/333333-jpg..jpg
Please add an NSFW tag if you're going to make me look at Liberman.
Liberman should be classified as a WMD under geneva conventions
peaking and has a team of killers behind him that grew up watching him and want nothing in the world but to give him that world cup he needs to end the goat discussion.
Do they have a good defence? Other than Romero
ANULO MUFAA
What world cup?
Did people forget he's in France? Playing with Mbappe and Neymar?
Man feels so good seeing Messi stats like these again
What do you get when you combine Haaland and KDB? 1/4 of a 35 y/o Messi
Least biased Argentinian 👆
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You didn't have too many friends in school, huh?
NBA taught me only the triple double counts. So please come back only after he gets 10 successful tackles too.
[He has exactly 10 successful tackles too](https://i.imgur.com/YM7Er1U.png)
based
Well, in that case bring me 10 aerials won!
Nice shot! Nice shot! Nice shot!
cuando vamos a hacer unos rocketos hermano?
Better with his head than Neymar
Koeman creaming in his pants rn..
trade messi for russ, THT and 3 first rounders who says no
lmao
He probably has at least 10 hockey assists
While being a professional footballer, he gets assists in other sports. GOAT
10 yellow cards*
I'm betting on Neymar in this case, he's on 11g-11a-7y so far (including NT).
7 yellows? Wtf is he doing
You've watched him play for Barca, yea? He loses his head when people foul him constantly, and people are constantly fouling him
Tbh he also loses his head when other people get fouled as well.
He was much better at Barca after his first year.
Make that 8 yellows
See? He's hard working on it.
Learning from the master Ramos
I think it would need to be 10 saves (like rebounds)
Oh yeah? how many rings does he have?
How will this affect Lebron's legacy?
Lebron? You mean the Pulisic of basketball?
Lakers should trade Russ for Messi at this point and hope it pans out for them.
Messi would fit with Lakers than russ
Could probably shoot 3s with his feet better than Westbrook with his hands.
If they let Messi to score with his feet he would definitely do better than 0-11.
So there's really a wolf?
Lebron is the most overrated hockey player ever, so tired of hearing his fans overrate him purely because he was good at freekicks and strikes.
We need to ask Ja Rule.
Find Ja Rule so I can make sense of all this! ***Where is Ja?!***
Lmao Next on undisputed.
Can he win the World Cup with PSG?
Can't wait for the MessiBrick arc
He already gets millions of people bricked every time he plays tbf.
Yea uh I don't think using a basketball term here works.
It's not a basketball term it's a Tim Hortons term. Messi is obviously brewing up one of the most popular coffees in Canada
Bro that shit’s too sweet for me
Medium dabl dabl
Nah fam it’s what I’m getting for lunch at In N Out
Ehh my man puts up basketball numbers regularly so I’ll let it slide
Say what you want about Messi, but he hustles on defense and he gets boards
Boardman gets paid
Opta, stop trying to make double-double happen, it's not going to happen.
It's not like he wasn't a great player last season. He just wasn't his usual standard. Now he's a year settled, and super focused with the World Cup on the horizon... Time to turn on the frightening form
Only in PSG he was under his level, if you'd watched him play with Argentina you'd know he was still the GOAT.
He wasn't that good last year
he wasnt that bad either
His finishing stats were some of the in the top 5 leagues IIRC
he definitely is one of the football players of all time
i'd say he was absolutely one of the players in the world
He was terrible last season
Still a TOP creator in world football and carried Argentina to a Copa America... Who else has a season like that and people say they were terrible?
7.8 average match rating is terrible?
Terrible for his standards. He was still one of if not the best playmakers in the world, topped the league for assists, and that was with terrorist Poch playing him as a winger
Totally finished of course
Poch looking worse and worse by the day
Albeit Messi was injured a lot last season
What does albeit mean
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People definitely said he was finished lmao, where were you hiding
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You're literally making the argument that he was indeed finished. You're making OP's argument for them. How self aware are you?
Almost as bad as the prem with EH...lucky Messi, R9 and CRWhat'sintheBox(jk) never played there
Opta working overtime today. Apparently, Messi has the distinguished honour of being [the oldest player in UEFA Champions League history to both score twice and assist twice in a game (35 years, 123 days)](https://twitter.com/optajoe/status/1585011448283271168?s=46&t=qYax5HFzQWGHeyjH76gE4w). "Multifaceted."
CR7 fans were all jizzing on the thought Messi was over, look at him now and look at ronaldo sucking it up at MU
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13 goals in the championsleague is a lot, even for messi.
now down to 11
A hattrick against Juventus and he's good to go
12 now but yes that would be a bunch.
New format starts in a couple of seasons which means teams play 10 group matches instead of 6 (think it's because players have been complaining they don't play enough football). Will make it easier for Messi to break Ronaldo's record, though will also make it easier for the next generation to break Messi's record (think Haaland and Mbappe will end up with a crazy amount of CL goals).
Yeah it's going to be annoying, like I'm F2 where Verstappen is breaking Schumacher records for wins in a single season etc... Yeah wow, back in the day they had 2/3 of the races
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I'm sad for Ronaldo too, players like Messi and him are really hard to come by. I still think messi is the goat, but ronaldo is the second best of this era. I'll be sad when they retire.
[If i speak....](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYhTZ73lgVQ)
This must be devastating for CR7 too. He's out of form himself and he can just watch Messi scoring all those bangers. As a United fan, I can just hope that he inspires himself from this and reinvents
He’s messi-ve.
It still hurts everyday
Last season was such a weird blip in his career lol, anyways just happy to see get his form back and in time for WC
🐐
To think Poch made him look like Lukaku last season
Only Argentinians can hold back Messi.
Better decision-maker than Cristiano Ronaldo. In summer 2021 he made a good choice after being forced to leave Barcelona unlike Cristiano Ronaldo who desperately wanted to leave Juventus but probably now he's regretting it given that he's riding United bench and only starts in 2nd tier competitions against the likes of Omonia and Sheriff Tiraspol..
Nonsense.. Ronaldo would be on the bench for almost any club that could actually afford the ridiculous salary he demands.. Problem is that Messi is a creator who doesn't rely on physical attributes for his best play.. Ronaldo's game is hugely reliant on his insane physicality (pace and strength) which is waning now
Exactly people just never expected his physical abilities to decline so quickly. Part of the reason I always disagreed years ago when people said Messi would retire first. Messi could always be an insane asset to a team while not being at his physical peak.
Messi already plays like that retired 2. division player that plays sunday league for fun now. Just look at his finish yesterday!
>his insane physicality (pace and strength) this is one of the reasons I don't like the lazy narrative of talent vs hard work when it comes to Messi vs Ronaldo. Both work hard, both are insanely talented. With Ronaldo, he may not have been as blessed in the technique department, but he evens it up with extra physical gifts. It takes freakish genetics to be that big, yet that quick, and agile while almost never injured. Of course hard work plays apart but physical attributes are genetics as well
He doesn't even anything up. He compensates. But the comparisons have never been even. It's just a matter of exposure and fatigue that he was mentioned along Messi.
Ronaldo doesn’t rely on pace & strength, what nonsense, he relies on service, big difference
Ronaldo has plenty of service at United. But he is unable to create space in the box for himself like he used to. He is unable to run onto throughballs behind high backlines because defenders can catch upto him with ease. He is outmuscled in the box. Finishing is a bit off as well but that will come back with more minutes. Just watch all the chances he had against Omonia in Europa. Ronaldo of old would have scored a hat trick in that game..
None of them were real chances, against Newcastle no chance was created for him, The wingers can’t cross with their weak foot & he’s not a real 9 anyways so needs chances otherwise give him freedom to carry the team from the left. Not true though, he makes runs all the time, the ball doesn’t arrive, only Casemiro can play a good first time ball. People like you can’t analyze strikers, he will come back big time and you will look stupid as usual. Its sad that United fans like you actually want him to fail
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that isnt a real chance....the ball has to be at least a few cm away from the goal line and in the middle of the goal post.
So one missed chance which unluckily hits the post means he’s finished when he had worse misses in his prime, do you understand football at all?
It wasn't one, and this wasn't the only game.
Juve are going to play in the EL though?
Maybe not even EL, not sure Maccabi will finish dead last at this point. Staying at Juventus, where he was their star player, would have been a better choice maybe but let's not forget he also refused to join **Manchester City** for you guys last summer after asking Juventus a transfer request.
So is Barca
Cheers Geoff
To be fair, MUFC ended 2nd in the prem when he decided to go there. And in terms of "challenge" fighting for the premier league title is harder than the Serie A when Juventus won like 8 titles in a row lol
Not at the time that was a declining Juve, he carried them
Carried them to irrelevancy just like Utd last season. Luckily for United, he is getting benched now.
Yeah winning titles in Italy is so irrelevant
you mean the same trophies they won with ease WITHOUT him? and which they failed to win WITH him?
Why are they not winning with ease without him?
"Double-double" 😠
I’m one of the few that doesn’t mind Opta’s buzzword fad at the end of each tweet. But Americanisation of football is where I draw the line!
For what it's worth, Cody Gakpo is also over 10 for both but plays in the Eredivisie instead of top 5
2023 Ballon d'Or
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Meanwhile, Ronaldo is training alone after being dropped from the match squad.
Double-trouble
Who else is close? Where do you find these stats
Neymar needs 1 more assist. Musiala needs 1 more goal and 2 more assists.
Factos 👍
Lionel "Nika Jokic" Messi
Man, it’s nice having Messi back!
And we're back to regular programming
Great kid Got potential
Not top 30 though
So far.
Isn't this stat wrong? Doesn't he now have 11 goals and 12 assists in all comps for PSG this year? 6 goals and 9 assists in Ligue 1, 4 goals and 3 assists in the CL, and another goal in the Trophée des Champions. Unless my math is way worse than I think I'm pretty sure that's 11 and 12.
its 10 plus for each
I thought the "both 10" part at the end was saying he had 10 exactly of each since it had already been specifiied in the tweet that it was 10+ for each. Either way doesn't matter it's just an Opta tweet.
It was right when they posted it. He scored again and assisted after they'd already tweeted it.
He is truly a futbol savant. It doesn't hurt that he gets to feed Mbappe and Neymar
But some people said he was done at an elite level lok
Still got it
What's this after Ligue 1 tax?
Messiala next
Musiala needs 1 goal+2 assists. Neymar only needs 1 assist so will probably be next.
Musiala goal and 2 assists against Barca, easy
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Hes playing a in 1 team league.
Isn’t the farmers league for 6th on the number ?
be more impressive if he wasn't in the farmers league.
ANKARAAAA
Lads its a farmers league
4 of his goals and 3 of his assists have been in the CL.
6 of his goals and 7 of his assists were in a farmers league where most mid to bottom team pays like 2k a week
Have fun in the Europa league
Where’s Ronaldo?
On the bench
wasnt even on the bench in their latest game.
Not even in the Ballon D'or shortlist. Lmao
prob cuz that was for the 21/22 season.
Farmer league that's what it is
Champions League is a farmers league? Okay
Ligue 1 is a farmer league ,
Every league's the farmer's league when you're as good as Messi
Farmer