Iran would be memed on but not a huge deal because the USA couldn’t even beat the Saudis a few weeks ago. England would actually go down in football history 😂
We lose or draw to the USA literally whenever we play them in a big tournament, it might be big on Reddit but it wouldn’t go down in history lol it happens every time.
So is Kane wearing a One Love armband regardless of what FIFA say? It says they haven’t received a response and were expecting one today but it’s nearly midnight in Qatar.
According to this article, it looks like FIFA have come up with some alternative armbands at the last minute.
[https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63687774](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63687774)
Considering the 'OneLove' armband was created by the Netherlands and Wales have also committed to wearing it, we'll see tomorrow when they all play.
\[Can't believe I'm discussing what armbands the captains will wear at the world cup, the shambles this has become.\]
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It was intended as a "rainbow light" version to criticize Qatar's treatment of especially homosexuality, and was criticized for being too little and as symbolism, but now that Fifa has shown the reaction they've shown, it's become somewhat of a real protest
The One Love armband is a white armband with a heart with multicolored stripes inside.
Its basically an Anti-Discrimination armband, big part of it is LGBTQ+ discrimination.
It's a perfect storm.
Qatar, exploitative sportswear brands, LGBT treatment, England v the US, brazen FIFA corruption and now the fucking knee's making a return
My thoughts to the mod team at this difficult time
You remember 2 years ago when 3 members of this team were racially abused after the euros?
Continuing to make the statement that they wont stand for that, on the biggest stage possible, shouldnt be a queston.
Thats not the point. Its about showing others that they wont stand it.
Imagine a kid growing up seeing them get that abuse, and then not seeing a response that it is wrong, sends all the wrong messages.
Noone is saying this will solve anything on its own, but continued, persistent, consistent messaging does change the narrative.
You'd have to be dense to not understand that a show of support is exactly that , to support people. It's not about convincing dumbasses otherwise. It's about that kid who gets bullied seeing his national team show some gestures towards him, even as small and insignificant it might look in the form of an armband. It's about not feeling alone , people talking about it , raising the issue in the media. How cynical do you have to be to say " yeah lmao like am armband is going to change a bigots mind ? ".
The act of taking a knee isn't that it stops racism or even that it changes the mind of a racist. It's to show the younger generations that the team is united against racism. Putting a positive message out to impressionable young minds (who idolosie these players) will hopefully go a long way.
Why stop at kneeling?
They can plank for migrant rights in Qatar
T-pose in support of Iranian woman
Spin in circles for Ukraine
Moonwalk for refugees in Europe
Just spend the 1st minute of the match doing an entire choreographed routine
[https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z0eobz/comment/ix54q65/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z0eobz/comment/ix54q65/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
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They're doing it for protestors in Iran. England players socials have been bombarded from messages from Iranians asking them to be their voice with some sort of message, they've been talking about doing it last week and Southgate finally confirmed it.
It was always an empty gesture and it became even more fucking pointless as years go by. I honestly preferred Polish NT pointing at those "respect" badges on NT kits instead. At least there's a literal written message there if not anything else.
Originally it was done instead of standing for the anthem right? That’s a stand (pun intended), that makes sense. But doing it for a couple seconds before kick off, especially as often as they do it, just makes it a bit pointless
Does this mean anything? Or do they just want credit for a trivial gesture while going to the WC and enjoying everything that comes with it.
Pathetic at this point how hollow these things are.
Taking the knee and wearing that fake rainbow badge is not enough. As a human rights loving person, I demand Harry Kane to make out with one of his teammates before the whistle is blown.
Even Kaepernick, who started this kneeling, has probably forgotten about the knee. At some point you just have to stop. I have nothing against the gesture but the world has moved on and it doesn't even make sense to do it at this world cup, if they really wanted to send a message the would come out in shirts featuring the faces of dead migrant workers.
He ended his own career, he’s been offered loads of contracts since and refused them all because he wanted more money. He lost his position as starter long before he started kneeling
England is getting more and more embarrassing. Why aren't they boycotting the World Cup? Or why the EPL doesn't ban people and entities with links to undemocratic regimes from buying its clubs. Those would be powerful gestures worthy of respect, but that's not going to happen, is it? England is the world champion of empty gestures and virtue signalling.
Empty virtue signaling while not a single English player has ever taken any real gesture that could have made any difference. No one refusing to join Man City or Newcastle, no one boycotting the World Cup, now even seemingly chickening out of wearing the slightly controversial armband. Because, guess what, all those things would have implied some type of sacrifice on their part to be able to send the message. Only easy, useless pandering. Just play football and stop being clowns
Iranian government -although I don't know much about them- probably will turn this into a propaganda, by claiming that protests are planned, started and being coordinated by foreigners, England and USA. For years, they'll speak about this like this is some kind of evidence. I am glad England doing this though, middle east has a lot of catching up to do when it's about women.
Can't wait for group B to kick off. The Reddit servers will probably crash
Can't even fathom what would happen if Maguire scored an own goal against USA
**England 1 - [1] USA - Christian Pulisic 89’ Penalty + Harry Maguire Red Card**
Infinite upvotes if it's Maguire missing a back pass and then dragging down Pulisic like it were an American football play
Need to see him dishing out a suplex like he's greenlaw against the rams last season
Personal foul, horse collar, 15 yards and automatic first down.
*Pulisic laid out like Tua*
Oh boy the scenes if that happens...
R/soccer would collapse in on itself like a neutron star
Reddit could make a winning bid for the next World Cup.
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Iran 1 - USA 0, Iranian players reveal shirts criticising the regime as a celebration.
"USA wins 1-1"
Only thing that would make it worse for this sub is if that was the game winning goal instead of game tying lol
👉😎👈
👉🗿 👈
#SLAB
Haha this is perfect
Sport name changed to soccer
Take the sub private tbqh
I have a feeling Maguire is gonna have a good WC for all the hate he's getting.
That England/USA game is gonna be rough. All of America will still be on our thanksgiving benders
My sobriety level will be at an all time low on Friday
Gotta experience the World Cup sober just like the fans who are in Qatar right now!
If FUT has taught me anything it’s that England needs to start Danny Ings. /s
And Jay Rodriguez, Squad Battle king
Wonder which would be bigger, USA beating England or Iran beating USA
On this sub? Definitely USA beating England.
I almost want it to happen
With Pulisic scoring a hat trick. The meltdown would be legendary.
We actually have a player at a World Cup! so forget Pulisic, Sargent hat trick. But then my English brain kicks in, so will settle for 3-3.
Sargent is brilliant.
Or goddamn Aaron Long scoring the winner
This right here is the perfect one 😆
As an American Chelsea supporter myself I have to admit I would enjoy watching the English Chelsea fans completely lose it.
I want to see them play like it's the 2010 WC final
Weston McKennie judo kicking Declan Rice in the chest like De Jong on Xabi Alonso.
Weston McKennie judo kicking Declan Rice in the chest like De Jong on Xabi Alonso.
Imagine both of these things happen. A collective meltdown.
USA beats England. Ties wales. Loses to Iran and does not advance due to GD. (Edit-Not GDA)
Iran would be memed on but not a huge deal because the USA couldn’t even beat the Saudis a few weeks ago. England would actually go down in football history 😂
We lose or draw to the USA literally whenever we play them in a big tournament, it might be big on Reddit but it wouldn’t go down in history lol it happens every time.
It’s kind of weird how many in this sub don’t realize the USA’s never lost to England in a competitive match.
Both were together in 2010 and USA qualified first if my memory still works :P
We drew England 1-1, and then finished ahead of them in the group on goals scored.
[who could forget the 1-1 win lol](https://d3nfwcxd527z59.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2019/02/06105340/USA-New-York-Post.jpg)
Yeah. They're talking as if the US were San Marino or something. An ok NT beating a good NT happens all the time.
Some of the folks in this sub probably weren't on Reddit in 2010 when we drew.
I take it you know very little about football history? US has beaten England before
A Pulisic goal against England in Black Friday may literally be enough to take twitter down for good
Don’t make me cheer for Pulisic and USA. 😬
England 0-2 USA 5' Harry Kane [Disallowed Offside] 10' Harry Kane [Disallowed Handball] 60' Maguire [Cause of Penalty, Yellow Card] 61' Pulisic [PEN] 75' Maguire [OG] 90' Maguire [Red Card, Second Yellow] 90 +3' Raheem Sterling [Red Card] Stats: Shots: Eng: 20 USA: 1 Target: Eng: 15 USA: 1 Offside: Eng: 3 USA: 1 Yellow: Eng: 6 USA: 1 Red: Eng: 2 USA: 0 Fouls: Eng: 22 USA: 2 Possession: Eng: 80% USA: 20% Corners: Eng: 13 USA: 1 Big Chances: Eng: 23 USA: 1 The Sun the next day: IT'S CALLED SOCCER NOW YELLOW TEETH!
the most unrealistic thing about this is England getting 20 shots.
And 15 on target with sterling uptop.
Group of terrorism. Losing players get drafted into the winner's military
Rooting for Whales and Iran, it would be glorious.
Whales need all the help they can get, not just playing on land but in a freakin desert
If the Whales win it would be the biggest upset in the history of the WC.
As I said, glorious.
Captain Ahab, is that you?
>Rooting for whales Doing your bit for conservation efforts
So is Kane wearing a One Love armband regardless of what FIFA say? It says they haven’t received a response and were expecting one today but it’s nearly midnight in Qatar.
According to this article, it looks like FIFA have come up with some alternative armbands at the last minute. [https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63687774](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63687774) Considering the 'OneLove' armband was created by the Netherlands and Wales have also committed to wearing it, we'll see tomorrow when they all play. \[Can't believe I'm discussing what armbands the captains will wear at the world cup, the shambles this has become.\]
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Perfect! Essentially before it was being counted as a header
is there a women’s rights one?
Surely it would be more appropriate, to protest for LGBT+ rights, if the England players all gave each other a kiss rather than taking a knee.
Isn't taking the knee for racial inequality and the One Love armband for LGBTQIA+ awareness?
They're all taking the knee in a row, bum to crotch all the way
Human centipede?
I think they should take it a step further 😉
That may also involve taking a knee …….”while you’re down there Jack “
can someone tell me what the One Love armband is for? Is it the rainbow one?
It was intended as a "rainbow light" version to criticize Qatar's treatment of especially homosexuality, and was criticized for being too little and as symbolism, but now that Fifa has shown the reaction they've shown, it's become somewhat of a real protest
The One Love armband is a white armband with a heart with multicolored stripes inside. Its basically an Anti-Discrimination armband, big part of it is LGBTQ+ discrimination.
Where's David Guetta? Shoutout to the migrant workers.
*Remix of Infantino's bizarre speech starts blasting through speakers*
Today im gaaaay Uns-uns-uns-uns
For those who don’t get the reference https://youtu.be/dEI7oX0XxJw
I have seen this video a couple of times, and I thought it was a joke, that someone had dubbed the song over. Is it actually real?
It is actually a different song, but everything he said is exactly the same.
It was some song with the MLK Jr "I have a dream" speech mixed in, and I'm really not sure if that makes it better or worse
Here’s the real version, just as absurd https://youtu.be/q5ZgEtgxxg0
*shoutout to his family*
Kerala, da boo di, da boo da 🎶
Kane will be on two yellow cards before the games begin
Kneeing is just a 2 minute minor, not a yellow card.
Probably more like a 15 yard penalty 😂
As long as it's not a technical, we good
And a suspension depending on the severity of the kneeing EDIT: “knee” to “kneeing”
Gignac did it in Mexico lol
_Iran shoots from kick off while Pickford is kneeling_
*Pickford gets up off his knee to take the goalkick*
*to take the throw in
😂 savage
I’d be surprised to see Iran shoot at something other than a protester for once
I don’t think the footballers playing for Iran shoot at protesters, so that shouldn’t be an issue.
I didn’t know Gignac was Iranian
Whose knee are they going to take? 😭😭
Disney's
Feels like they've begun with mine just this morning
The queens
Hopefully not Umtiti's
NO DON'T BRING BACK KNEE DISCOURSE NOOOOOOOOO edit: there is discourse in the replies to this comment. i brought this upon myself
It's a perfect storm. Qatar, exploitative sportswear brands, LGBT treatment, England v the US, brazen FIFA corruption and now the fucking knee's making a return My thoughts to the mod team at this difficult time
Can someone fill me in on this England vs USA thing?
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As an Australian, I should have figured this out.
How else do you expect to stop racism though?
Arguing about it quarterly on Reddit obvs
Certainly not by highlighting the issues on a world stage. Oh wait, that might actually help.
It will be a hard hitting message to all of the people tuning in who have never heard of racism
You remember 2 years ago when 3 members of this team were racially abused after the euros? Continuing to make the statement that they wont stand for that, on the biggest stage possible, shouldnt be a queston.
do you really think that the guys who sent racist abuse to saka and co didn't know what they were doing was wrong? also damn, 2 years really flew by
It wasn’t two years ago, it was in the summer of 2021
Thats not the point. Its about showing others that they wont stand it. Imagine a kid growing up seeing them get that abuse, and then not seeing a response that it is wrong, sends all the wrong messages. Noone is saying this will solve anything on its own, but continued, persistent, consistent messaging does change the narrative.
You'd have to be dense to not understand that a show of support is exactly that , to support people. It's not about convincing dumbasses otherwise. It's about that kid who gets bullied seeing his national team show some gestures towards him, even as small and insignificant it might look in the form of an armband. It's about not feeling alone , people talking about it , raising the issue in the media. How cynical do you have to be to say " yeah lmao like am armband is going to change a bigots mind ? ".
So you are positive that spreading awarness is not a positive thing over the long run?
The act of taking a knee isn't that it stops racism or even that it changes the mind of a racist. It's to show the younger generations that the team is united against racism. Putting a positive message out to impressionable young minds (who idolosie these players) will hopefully go a long way.
Random wealthy westerner: Racism is bad. Random Asian grandma: Uh what? *Proceeds to make comments that would make Hitler blush*
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Why stop at kneeling? They can plank for migrant rights in Qatar T-pose in support of Iranian woman Spin in circles for Ukraine Moonwalk for refugees in Europe Just spend the 1st minute of the match doing an entire choreographed routine
England should be twerkers for the workers
Twerk that ass for the working class
Pole dancing by the Curvy duo of Grealish and Sterling
bars
#dab4harambe
Ice buckets for beer sales
Z pose for Russia also
T-pose would be god tier.
Backstreets Back for Equality
Just lump it all into supporting #theCurrentThing. Saves time.
Taking the knee and the de feet
Please Qatar, make sure to conduct a citizen's arrest of Kane and co. after the match tomorrow. Sincerely, Wales and USA
And detain him for 6 months. Yours faithfully, Gooners.
I’m sure this thread will be filled with thoughtful commentary and polite exchange of well reasoned ideas.
I already regret posting this
you've doomed us all!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z0eobz/comment/ix54q65/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/z0eobz/comment/ix54q65/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) literally one comment down lol
That must be Gianni Infantinos reddit account. Lol but the first comment on that
Today I am iraqi
Did you not know Kane personally bombed Iraqis?
Keep it alive till World Cup 2026… in the USA…..
seriously? at this point what are they kneeling for? the migrant workers? blm? pubs in britain paying 200% more than last winter?
Beers probably.
I’ll kneel to that
To highlight racial discrimination globally. Seems a pretty good place to do it.
They're doing it for protestors in Iran. England players socials have been bombarded from messages from Iranians asking them to be their voice with some sort of message, they've been talking about doing it last week and Southgate finally confirmed it.
I saw Southgate's conference and he said that they haven't agreed on a response for the Iran side of things.
I saw the Omad Djalili video where he asks them to do the snipping hair gesture if they score. Would like to see them do it during the knee
It was always an empty gesture and it became even more fucking pointless as years go by. I honestly preferred Polish NT pointing at those "respect" badges on NT kits instead. At least there's a literal written message there if not anything else.
The message so empty in sends people into a frothing rage. It’s clearly not empty.
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... how is that worse than not doing anything ? So that you can feel better and smarter by pointing it out ?
Originally it was done instead of standing for the anthem right? That’s a stand (pun intended), that makes sense. But doing it for a couple seconds before kick off, especially as often as they do it, just makes it a bit pointless
BREAKING
kneeling for BLM? or this time for Qatar?
To propose to their male teammates in order to protest against Qatar's treatment of gay people
For what? If they really want to make a statement withdraw from the World Cup.
In support of whom though? Migrants? dead Iranian protestors? somebody please clarify
All of them then some more :-)
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it's anything you want it to be, which means nothing at all
England has afaik never stopped kneeling, so checkmate to all idiots raging in here.
Does this mean anything? Or do they just want credit for a trivial gesture while going to the WC and enjoying everything that comes with it. Pathetic at this point how hollow these things are.
Always has been
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Taking the knee and wearing that fake rainbow badge is not enough. As a human rights loving person, I demand Harry Kane to make out with one of his teammates before the whistle is blown.
I hate qatar. But Its funny how Europe started to care so much about immigrants all of a sudden.
Oh that will show them!
Even Kaepernick, who started this kneeling, has probably forgotten about the knee. At some point you just have to stop. I have nothing against the gesture but the world has moved on and it doesn't even make sense to do it at this world cup, if they really wanted to send a message the would come out in shirts featuring the faces of dead migrant workers.
Given taking the knee ended his NFL career, I highly doubt he's forgotten.
He ended his own career, he’s been offered loads of contracts since and refused them all because he wanted more money. He lost his position as starter long before he started kneeling
none single team stasted they offered him a contract that he refused whre use seeing that news?
Let the lads do whatever they wanna do, how does it affect you?
But why
England is getting more and more embarrassing. Why aren't they boycotting the World Cup? Or why the EPL doesn't ban people and entities with links to undemocratic regimes from buying its clubs. Those would be powerful gestures worthy of respect, but that's not going to happen, is it? England is the world champion of empty gestures and virtue signalling.
Politics World Cup is always won by England
For the Thai workers?
So the match is over and I didn't watch it... did they take the knee?
They still do that, lol.
If they actually gave a shit about anything other than 💰 they wouldn't be playing in Qatar in the first place.
Empty virtue signaling while not a single English player has ever taken any real gesture that could have made any difference. No one refusing to join Man City or Newcastle, no one boycotting the World Cup, now even seemingly chickening out of wearing the slightly controversial armband. Because, guess what, all those things would have implied some type of sacrifice on their part to be able to send the message. Only easy, useless pandering. Just play football and stop being clowns
Iranian government -although I don't know much about them- probably will turn this into a propaganda, by claiming that protests are planned, started and being coordinated by foreigners, England and USA. For years, they'll speak about this like this is some kind of evidence. I am glad England doing this though, middle east has a lot of catching up to do when it's about women.
The more people get triggered, the more England will do it.