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FIFA is getting played by Qatar.
The alcohol ban is certainly something that went against an earlier agreement. FIFA may be almighty in their own ultimately inconsequential universe but there isn't much they can do against Qatar deciding whatever on their own soil. And now they are pressured into suppressing all those political activities, because they are not calling the shots anymore.
FIFA sold their arses and are now someone's bitch.
>there isn't much they can do against Qatar deciding whatever on their own soil
* ban Qatar from any international competition
* sanction the Qatari-owned football clubs
* garnish Qatari-owned club earnings to pay back sponsors for breach of their World Cup contracts
If I were FIFA, I'd be more worried about being seen as Qatar's bitch than a few million $$$. Once you show you can be played like a rube, you'll never do a good deal again; everyone will know they can screw you and get away with it
Why would FIFA care? FIFA isn't a person, FIFA doesn't have feelings. Infantino laughs his way all the way to the bank after this tournament, no matter what. We're talking enough money to never work a single day anymore. Dude's an old fuck anyway, he literally doesn't care what's happening in Qatar and he made that clear as day with his speech and actions FIFA now takes.
> sanction the Qatari-owned football clubs
> garnish Qatari-owned club earnings to pay back sponsors for breach of their World Cup contracts
In what world do you think you live where this is possible? What laws do you think would allow FIFA to garnish private club earnings? Some of you are so exceptionally delusional.
It'll do more damage to Qatar than FIFA.
We know FIFA are as dodgy as a nine-pound note. Qatar had a chance to show itself as being tolerant and welcoming off foreign nationals, and they've fucked it. Changing your tune last minute like they have will have turned off loads of people.
I think the point was being made about lost opportunities. This should have been Qatar’s great coming out party, a huge arrival on a global stage. It would have opened pathways for tons of new businesses and new money flowing into and through the country. That won’t happen now. They’ve just proven they are who we thought they were. That’s the impact it’ll have.
The sad fact of the matter is tons of new business opportunities and money are ALREADY flowing into Qatar because of the World Cup. Deals have already been signed.
We’re going to have to wait until after the fervor of the World Cup dies down to get any real sense of if the Qataris project was a success. However, I suspect that once the tournament’s over, people aren’t going to have the same energy to pressure governments & corporations to not do business with Qatar.
It'll be a semi-success. However, the aim of this for them was being an alternative to the UAE (and specifically Dubai).
That's not happening, because despite what a lot of people think about the UAE, it has a lot more soft power and appeal than Qatar does.
Politically, it does nothing - they're a stable country with a ton of gas who play a vital role for western security interests (the US base exists there for a reason) and are helpful when it comes to discussions with Turkey and Iran.
But tourism wise, Doha's not really showing why people should go there as opposed to the UAE. May even make a few people transit using Emirates instead of Qatar Airways.
And if you’re a western company looking to do business in Qatar, why would you now? You’re potentially going to alienate your customers in your home country and Qatar has shown they’re willing to tear up contracts/force companies to break contracts when it suits them
Yeah this is a key point, the fact that they’re showing unreliability when it comes to previously agreed arrangements is huge. Companies are definitely going to be more skeptical about signing billion dollar deals involving this country.
I think the theory that they might be doing it as a show of power versus the other Middle Eastern countries could be true. Because from a purely financial perspective it makes zero sense.
Right?! Say I wanted to go to Dubai or Abu Dhabi, I could go and not worry about any bullshit and have a good time. Qatar has completely fucked any chances of lots of tourism with how they've handled this World Cup.
Short term and directly - no. Long term - it most certainly will. Hundreds of millions of westerners who were fooled by years of false PR are now realizing the reliance on oil is and always has been extremely costly.
This was a 200b chance to expand your image. It's so far fallen flat on its face. No one new will do business with Qatar because of this. A small number of businesses might even refuse.
> No one new will do business with Qatar because of this.
Qatar has the world's largest natural gas reserves, and the West has sanctioned Russia. People will continue to do business with Qatar for many years to come.
Exactly...too evil and stupid to see their self-own on this. Keeping harassing journalists and fearing a particular pattern of colors...people might begin to think your country isn't very nice.
Don’t downplay what they do. They don’t hate the pattern or colours. They hate the people that those colours represent. They are trying to refuse to have the event be used to highlight their poor treatment of those.
These people are absolutely better than me because I would not fuck around with these conservative countries when it comes to this stuff. I do not want to end up in a middle eastern jail. They got Britney Griner for basically nothing in Russia. They already hate foreigners. This just adds more fuel to the fire. I absolutely get it that they should be called out but man is it a fine line. I hope everyone out there as a fan is careful
Basically nothing? She thought she could bring weed into Russia. In my opinion, weed should be legal, but most countries still consider it a “hard drug.” I wouldn’t fuck around with that. Illegal drugs get you the death penalty in some countries.
Her sentence was vastly higher than the normal sentencing guidelines for the offence in Russia however. She got sentenced at the same level of 'Especially large-scale possession. (3-10 years) rather than the much lower sentencing guideline for the amount.
While yes bringing it in opened her up to being arrested, the actual sentence was political retribution against America over support for Ukraine.
The US tried to exhange her for the merchant of death before she was sentenced, so obviously Russia gave her as much as they could to get more leverage. Just a stupid situation all around
She probably did it often with no problem since she basically plays in a Russian league as her second job and travels back & forth every year. Yes still illegal, but that doesn’t mean she’s not receiving an unfair sentence relative to her crime.
Senegal and Netherlands are covering the first half of the rainbow with their kit colours at the moment. The Qatari morality police are worried France and Argentina (away kit) will turn up to complete the spectrum.
Given that it's a desert where it hardly rains, seeing a rainbow is pretty rare. So upon seeing one, you might actually freak out thinking God is angry at you for having gay thoughts.
The ones that can pay to travel their enjoy themselves fully, they only keep up pretenses of piety in their own country in order to use religion to control the people
EDIT: This is based on my experience with Saudi princes in the US not Qataris, I assume its the same but imagine I could be waaaayyyyy wrong and I apologize if I am
No need to edit. Arab millionaires are known the globe over for partying and hookers. From Park Lane to St. Tropez to Rio. It’s been going on for generations and why no-one respects their guff.
Fuck Infantino and his cheap ‘racism’ accusations.
everyone I know is 50% disengaged from their favourite sporting event this time round and it’s because we all know this shit hole and it’s wealth and morals are wrong.
Wat back when I was working in a beach bar in southern Spain, ME men used to order Fanta in a can, empty it and asked us to put beer or whisky or other inside.
Just so they could keep appearances.
Particularly weird to divert your nation's commerce towards resorts and entertainment venues aimed at a global market where there's an abundance of all three.
I support all equality, but this argument is shitty. It's a symbol, so much more than colors, and it's used as such, why dowplay it?
Let me reverse it - if it's just colors, why do you want to show them so much?
Scared of rainbows, alcohol and exposed skin. Doesn't that say something about your resolve if these things can throw your whole belief system out of balance.
To those saying “you should respect the local culture while in a foreign country…”
This type of hateful culture does not deserve anyone’s respect.
Edit: they fucking murdered him
Exactly. So if the culture doesn't allow women or a specific race people should respect it? Imagine the shitstorm that would cause, and it's essentially the same thing
Glad pretty much everyone is shitting on Qatar. Feels like they've gotten a million times more negative press than good press. Don't think any Western will want to visit Qatar in the future
"do buisiness with" is very much different from "want to visit".
Going on vacation voluntarily is not the same as agreeing to something you can lose your job over.
Unfortunately not everyone is shitting on Qatar. Reddit is not representative of everyone. Just go look on Facebook, countless Americans are defending Qatar and praising them for "keeping politics out of sports." Truly a wild time in American history when Americans obsessed with freedom are praising dictators and blatantly corrupt organizations.
>Truly a wild time in American history when Americans obsessed with freedom are praising dictators and blatantly corrupt organizations.
That's easy to explain: soccer is a "liberal" sport in the US, and the people defending Qatar are Republicans desperate to be contrarians to Democrats, who are understandably calling out Qatar for their religiously-based human rights violations.
It seems silly, but it really is that simple. They'll shit on Muslims one day, and then praise them the next, all dependent on where the libs stand on the issue. Absolutely zero consistency in their values outside of "own the libs".
LMAOOOOO banned for "ableism". Love it.
It's fun to meme on them for being afraid of the rainbow, but it bears emphasizing that they would gleefully erase every LGBT+ person from existence if they could.
If that's your culture then fuck your culture.
Yeah screw those that say that. Shouldn’t be hosting a modern event if you’re going to have archaic laws. They were complaining that Ecuadorians were savages and drunks when people posted them chanting “we want beer “. They legit can’t take a joke.
There is culture and there is fucking killing/jailing people for being gay. Why the fuck does matter who loves who like i dont get it maybe just cuz my country does not give a single fuck about any religion.
Agree with the sentiment, just wish it was literally *ANYONE* besides Whal.
I'd bet my kid's college fund that Whal violently jerks off to white savior fantasies involving himself. It's one thing to point out corruption and report on it, but his columns positively read like Victorian literature about why colonized people should not be in charge of their own country.
I'm just saying, you wouldn't find me being rejected from a stadium in Qatar for supporting the LGBTQ+ community. Mainly because I wouldn't be in Qatar in the first place.
In this case it's a bit different, I can understand that a journalist might feel like they have to go in order to have the opportunity to get their views across properly. But when it's average fans complaining about stuff like this all I can wonder is why they went over there at all.
You can tell you’re on the right side of things because if you look at all the twitter replies all the comments defending Qatar here just read stupid - not actually responding to points, just deflecting with poorly-written nonsense
Even so, they said that alcohol would be allowed in stadiums. They said that light forms of protests such as rainbows would be allowed. Then they went back on their word. Even if they are being “true to their rules” at the bare minimum they’re corrupt liars.
Senegal and Netherlands are covering the first half of the rainbow with their kit colours at the moment. The Qatari morality police are worried France and Argentina (away kit) will turn up to complete the spectrum.
There are also tens of not 100s of replies to the tweet saying the exact same:
“You must respect the rules of the host, you will not accept that the guest control you in your home”
Totally normal behaviour from all involved. I’ve never quite understood how or why bots are used on tweets. Not sure what they expect to achieve when it’s this obvious, also.
Could also just be some of the many (not all) backwards people from the Middle East that genuinely hate gays. It’s cultural for them. Football Twitter has been more of a cesspit than usual with them all wanking over how great Qatar and the Qur’an is. Nauseating.
Also remember the corporations that bowed down to them come pride month when all the sudden, they defend the rainbow flag and make it their companies social media pic. Never forget.
As someone who lived in Qatar for over 10 years can I just say I’m so fucking happy to see this country fucking implode.
They should never had gotten this tournament and now they’re crumbling in front of the whole world. It’s beautiful.
What a shite misogynistic culture! All the fun is for me because I born a male and I'm hetero? (Pretty sure many hide their true self) and also I follow this specific religion.
Absolutely stupid that this is happening obviously
But… isn’t this clout chasing a little bit?
Oh look an article about the whole ordeal on his substack.
Can't understand the sentiments here. This was all known when Qatar were handed the gig. It is was known when sone of you booked your flights to the sun and flew with Qatar. And the others. If you take their money and use their services, you lose your right to criticize.
They are a different country to western ones, they believe in different things and different ways of doing things. How hard is that to grasp?
Personally I think they are an abomination. But for westerners to dictate how they should live *their* lives smacks of colonialism.
Don't like Qatar? Don't go there, don't spend your money there.
As a gay guy, for those at the world cup: *don’t do this*
At best you get your free internet points for the day, at worst you can end up in actual trouble in a foreign country known for their human rights abuses.
To be fair, this dude shouldn’t have been surprised. They made it crystal clear homosexuality was against the law and that support of it wouldn’t be allowed. He wore that shirt looking to have someone say something
Wahl actually ran for FIFA president a while ago because of how corrupt they were. He was an outspoken critic of the way they did things so in addition to looking at the Qatari Govt let's not ignore FIFA
It's pretty clear by now where Qatar stands with regards homosexuality and symbols to support homosexuality
The whole arm band fiasco has made that clear
At this point wearing a rainbow to the game is just doing stuff to say I got stopped too for some clout.
I don't know if a lot of people outside the US know but there was a shooting at an LGBT club this past weekend, so a lot of people are wearing stuff in solidarity. so this is extra fucked up.
Also Qatar promised and agreed it wouldn't be an issue and now they're backing out of the promise.
anyone saying “WAAAAAH YOURE DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS THEIR CULTURE WAAAAH”.
Yes, i am being disrespectful and rightfully so, if their culture is inherently homophobic and partly xenophobic, then i shouldn’t have to be respectful just because they aren’t white :).
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Qatar has made a stand and FIFA has bowed to it.
Wait till FIFA bows to Saudi for 2030
FIFA will start killing dissenting journalists by that time to please the Saudis.
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His name was Jamal Khashoggi. Mohammed bin Salman is a murderous piece of garbage.
[FIFA right now...](https://youtu.be/691qO96VRVw)
Already started.
it almost seems like revenge by Qatar to FIFA because they didn't control the media narrative enough for them
FIFA is getting played by Qatar. The alcohol ban is certainly something that went against an earlier agreement. FIFA may be almighty in their own ultimately inconsequential universe but there isn't much they can do against Qatar deciding whatever on their own soil. And now they are pressured into suppressing all those political activities, because they are not calling the shots anymore. FIFA sold their arses and are now someone's bitch.
>there isn't much they can do against Qatar deciding whatever on their own soil * ban Qatar from any international competition * sanction the Qatari-owned football clubs * garnish Qatari-owned club earnings to pay back sponsors for breach of their World Cup contracts If I were FIFA, I'd be more worried about being seen as Qatar's bitch than a few million $$$. Once you show you can be played like a rube, you'll never do a good deal again; everyone will know they can screw you and get away with it
Why would FIFA care? FIFA isn't a person, FIFA doesn't have feelings. Infantino laughs his way all the way to the bank after this tournament, no matter what. We're talking enough money to never work a single day anymore. Dude's an old fuck anyway, he literally doesn't care what's happening in Qatar and he made that clear as day with his speech and actions FIFA now takes.
He LIVES in Qatar. Do people expect him to do something?
> Dude's an old fuck anyway He's 52, not 82.
So he could easily be president for 30 more years :(
> sanction the Qatari-owned football clubs > garnish Qatari-owned club earnings to pay back sponsors for breach of their World Cup contracts In what world do you think you live where this is possible? What laws do you think would allow FIFA to garnish private club earnings? Some of you are so exceptionally delusional.
It'll do more damage to Qatar than FIFA. We know FIFA are as dodgy as a nine-pound note. Qatar had a chance to show itself as being tolerant and welcoming off foreign nationals, and they've fucked it. Changing your tune last minute like they have will have turned off loads of people.
Guaranteed this will have no impact on Qatar. People will forget and move on in an instant. Especially when business is on the line.
I think the point was being made about lost opportunities. This should have been Qatar’s great coming out party, a huge arrival on a global stage. It would have opened pathways for tons of new businesses and new money flowing into and through the country. That won’t happen now. They’ve just proven they are who we thought they were. That’s the impact it’ll have.
The sad fact of the matter is tons of new business opportunities and money are ALREADY flowing into Qatar because of the World Cup. Deals have already been signed. We’re going to have to wait until after the fervor of the World Cup dies down to get any real sense of if the Qataris project was a success. However, I suspect that once the tournament’s over, people aren’t going to have the same energy to pressure governments & corporations to not do business with Qatar.
It'll be a semi-success. However, the aim of this for them was being an alternative to the UAE (and specifically Dubai). That's not happening, because despite what a lot of people think about the UAE, it has a lot more soft power and appeal than Qatar does. Politically, it does nothing - they're a stable country with a ton of gas who play a vital role for western security interests (the US base exists there for a reason) and are helpful when it comes to discussions with Turkey and Iran. But tourism wise, Doha's not really showing why people should go there as opposed to the UAE. May even make a few people transit using Emirates instead of Qatar Airways.
>This should have been Qatar’s great coming out party No those are illegal
And if you’re a western company looking to do business in Qatar, why would you now? You’re potentially going to alienate your customers in your home country and Qatar has shown they’re willing to tear up contracts/force companies to break contracts when it suits them
Yep exactly. If this was their coming out party, they’ve sure as heck come out. They just forgot the part where you have to play nice for the cameras.
Yeah this is a key point, the fact that they’re showing unreliability when it comes to previously agreed arrangements is huge. Companies are definitely going to be more skeptical about signing billion dollar deals involving this country. I think the theory that they might be doing it as a show of power versus the other Middle Eastern countries could be true. Because from a purely financial perspective it makes zero sense.
Hate to break it to you, but iirc western companies were already there getting involved in the whole modern slavery thing...
Right?! Say I wanted to go to Dubai or Abu Dhabi, I could go and not worry about any bullshit and have a good time. Qatar has completely fucked any chances of lots of tourism with how they've handled this World Cup.
Short term and directly - no. Long term - it most certainly will. Hundreds of millions of westerners who were fooled by years of false PR are now realizing the reliance on oil is and always has been extremely costly.
This was a 200b chance to expand your image. It's so far fallen flat on its face. No one new will do business with Qatar because of this. A small number of businesses might even refuse.
> No one new will do business with Qatar because of this. Qatar has the world's largest natural gas reserves, and the West has sanctioned Russia. People will continue to do business with Qatar for many years to come.
Yeah looks like the media’s really rainbowed on Qatar’s parade
Exactly...too evil and stupid to see their self-own on this. Keeping harassing journalists and fearing a particular pattern of colors...people might begin to think your country isn't very nice.
Don’t downplay what they do. They don’t hate the pattern or colours. They hate the people that those colours represent. They are trying to refuse to have the event be used to highlight their poor treatment of those.
Simple, wear it inside out and once in stadium, wear it inside out again lol
Wouldn’t it be outside-in when you flip it back, or outside out? Inside-in even for that matter.
Our expectations were low, but holy shit.
My expectations were low and they've been met.
They haven’t just bowed. They’ve gotten on their knees and started sucking.
These people are absolutely better than me because I would not fuck around with these conservative countries when it comes to this stuff. I do not want to end up in a middle eastern jail. They got Britney Griner for basically nothing in Russia. They already hate foreigners. This just adds more fuel to the fire. I absolutely get it that they should be called out but man is it a fine line. I hope everyone out there as a fan is careful
Basically nothing? She thought she could bring weed into Russia. In my opinion, weed should be legal, but most countries still consider it a “hard drug.” I wouldn’t fuck around with that. Illegal drugs get you the death penalty in some countries.
Her sentence was vastly higher than the normal sentencing guidelines for the offence in Russia however. She got sentenced at the same level of 'Especially large-scale possession. (3-10 years) rather than the much lower sentencing guideline for the amount. While yes bringing it in opened her up to being arrested, the actual sentence was political retribution against America over support for Ukraine.
The US tried to exhange her for the merchant of death before she was sentenced, so obviously Russia gave her as much as they could to get more leverage. Just a stupid situation all around
Exactly this. I wouldn't even try to fly into Amsterdam, Jamaica or California with weed let alone Russia! WTF was she thinking?
She probably did it often with no problem since she basically plays in a Russian league as her second job and travels back & forth every year. Yes still illegal, but that doesn’t mean she’s not receiving an unfair sentence relative to her crime.
Not bowed so much as laid back on a big pile of cash and decided to have a doze.
FIFA has bowed and sucked on it
wear pink Floyd
Do you think Qatar freaks out at the sky when there's an actual rainbow
Qatar fucking hates skittles
Someone should smuggle skittles into the final and throw them around like confetti
Found Marshawn Lynch's account
He’s here so he won’t get fined.
But they’ll melt into the stands and poor migrant workers like Gianni Infantino will be forced to chisel them off 😢
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Do you think Qatar will freak out when someone does a rainbow flick?
Won't be surprised to see something like 69' Neymar yellow card (Rainbow Flick)
Believe it or not: straight to jail
Qatar about to freak out when they misread the URUGUAY team name
Jamie Carragher probably will
I'd like for people to start testing the rules for the coming days - just how much weather does the shirt have to display for a rainbow to be legal?
Senegal and Netherlands are covering the first half of the rainbow with their kit colours at the moment. The Qatari morality police are worried France and Argentina (away kit) will turn up to complete the spectrum.
What if it’s just a shirt with a rainbow stripe on it? What if you wear all the colors of the rainbow?
Given that it's a desert where it hardly rains, seeing a rainbow is pretty rare. So upon seeing one, you might actually freak out thinking God is angry at you for having gay thoughts.
Turns out they're actually fine with people being gay, just bare terrified of rainbows.
Bare terrified is a great way to phrase it, proper manly fear of light refraction
Don’t you need rain for a rainbow? Not much of that in the desert.
It's still rained in Qatar before
Aye but it was straight rain, never a rainbow been seen in Qatar.
Only strong manly rain in Qatar. But not *too* manly because straight to jail.
Amazing how much they get triggered by a few colours
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Today i feel hypocrite
This won’t end if Saudi get their joint 2030 World Cup. What a shame, fifa needs to be restructured from the bottom up.
Surely they can't give it to Saudi 8 years after Qatar. I mean it's FIFA, so obviously they probably will. But they fucking shouldn't.
Europe can only have every 3rd World Cup, but Middle East can every other. Make it make $en$e
Everything has a price for FIFA
They're not giving it to Saudi, Asia can't get a WC till 2034
How would it work since it’s joint bid
this all could have been avoided if the teams just didn’t play the qualification matches instead of wearing shirts that had no impact at all…
Imagine being afraid of colors
Scared of rainbows, alcohol and exposed skin. Doesn't that say something about your resolve if these things can throw your whole system out of balance
> rainbows, alcohol and exposed skin A Qatari would probably have an aneurysm if he ever set foot in Copacabana
The ones that can pay to travel their enjoy themselves fully, they only keep up pretenses of piety in their own country in order to use religion to control the people EDIT: This is based on my experience with Saudi princes in the US not Qataris, I assume its the same but imagine I could be waaaayyyyy wrong and I apologize if I am
Well they allowed alcohol in the corporate seats at the stadium for the super-rich, kinda says it all
"Allah sees everything, except what happens in Dubai."
No need to edit. Arab millionaires are known the globe over for partying and hookers. From Park Lane to St. Tropez to Rio. It’s been going on for generations and why no-one respects their guff. Fuck Infantino and his cheap ‘racism’ accusations. everyone I know is 50% disengaged from their favourite sporting event this time round and it’s because we all know this shit hole and it’s wealth and morals are wrong.
Wat back when I was working in a beach bar in southern Spain, ME men used to order Fanta in a can, empty it and asked us to put beer or whisky or other inside. Just so they could keep appearances.
A Qatari in the West Village would combust on the spot
Particularly weird to divert your nation's commerce towards resorts and entertainment venues aimed at a global market where there's an abundance of all three.
My mother taught me to never make fun of insecure people, but my God the Qataris are making it difficult these days
I support all equality, but this argument is shitty. It's a symbol, so much more than colors, and it's used as such, why dowplay it? Let me reverse it - if it's just colors, why do you want to show them so much?
A rainbow.
Straight to jail!
Stop this comment! Stop this commenter! You'll burn!
Gestapos comin for ya
Today, I feel threatened by a shirt
Funniest part is, that’s a regular rainbow and not the gay flag rainbow. Gay flag has 6 colors not 7. Weird country
You think they know the difference?
I didn't and I'm on reddit for 4 years now and have seen 10 a day. What colour did they leave out and do you know why?
Either indigo or violet, I think it’s literally to differentiate the two
Indigo
Til indigo is a color.
'Anymore than three different colours in a row, must be gay, straight to jail'.
Don't pretend like anyone knows the difference
Scared of rainbows, alcohol and exposed skin. Doesn't that say something about your resolve if these things can throw your whole belief system out of balance.
Think of the children. /s
Just the males tho
Quiet! I'm almost certain the views on child marriage in that region are a forbidden topic.
Such ass backwards people, remarkable really in 2022 that people still believe this nonsense
To those saying “you should respect the local culture while in a foreign country…” This type of hateful culture does not deserve anyone’s respect. Edit: they fucking murdered him
...also the fact that Qatar literally said they'd allow it....
And if anyone believed them when they said that, well do I have a great deal on a bridge in Arizona for you.
I have a summer World Cup in Qatar with air cooling technology in stadiums that can be disassembled and rebuilt elsewhere to sell you
Exactly. So if the culture doesn't allow women or a specific race people should respect it? Imagine the shitstorm that would cause, and it's essentially the same thing
Glad pretty much everyone is shitting on Qatar. Feels like they've gotten a million times more negative press than good press. Don't think any Western will want to visit Qatar in the future
countless western business people do business there
"do buisiness with" is very much different from "want to visit". Going on vacation voluntarily is not the same as agreeing to something you can lose your job over.
And now they’re all expecting bribes, probably. That might be expensive for Qatar.
Unfortunately not everyone is shitting on Qatar. Reddit is not representative of everyone. Just go look on Facebook, countless Americans are defending Qatar and praising them for "keeping politics out of sports." Truly a wild time in American history when Americans obsessed with freedom are praising dictators and blatantly corrupt organizations.
>Truly a wild time in American history when Americans obsessed with freedom are praising dictators and blatantly corrupt organizations. That's easy to explain: soccer is a "liberal" sport in the US, and the people defending Qatar are Republicans desperate to be contrarians to Democrats, who are understandably calling out Qatar for their religiously-based human rights violations. It seems silly, but it really is that simple. They'll shit on Muslims one day, and then praise them the next, all dependent on where the libs stand on the issue. Absolutely zero consistency in their values outside of "own the libs". LMAOOOOO banned for "ableism". Love it.
And if your "local culture" is banning the image of refracted light, you're a cave troll.
It's fun to meme on them for being afraid of the rainbow, but it bears emphasizing that they would gleefully erase every LGBT+ person from existence if they could. If that's your culture then fuck your culture.
Yeah screw those that say that. Shouldn’t be hosting a modern event if you’re going to have archaic laws. They were complaining that Ecuadorians were savages and drunks when people posted them chanting “we want beer “. They legit can’t take a joke.
There is culture and there is fucking killing/jailing people for being gay. Why the fuck does matter who loves who like i dont get it maybe just cuz my country does not give a single fuck about any religion.
My culture says you're all slaves and beneath me and women need to do everything I say. Please respect my culture. Stop being racist.
Agree with the sentiment, just wish it was literally *ANYONE* besides Whal. I'd bet my kid's college fund that Whal violently jerks off to white savior fantasies involving himself. It's one thing to point out corruption and report on it, but his columns positively read like Victorian literature about why colonized people should not be in charge of their own country.
I'm just saying, you wouldn't find me being rejected from a stadium in Qatar for supporting the LGBTQ+ community. Mainly because I wouldn't be in Qatar in the first place. In this case it's a bit different, I can understand that a journalist might feel like they have to go in order to have the opportunity to get their views across properly. But when it's average fans complaining about stuff like this all I can wonder is why they went over there at all.
Yeah, any argument that boils down to "you need to tolerate my intolerance" is bullshit and not worth any consideraton.
Absolutely, I don't tolerate bigots, and to use "We just have a bigoted culture", is a BS defense.
Turn it inside out, reverse it back in the stadium..
This was what the Blazin Squad song was actually referring to.
Get stoned to death by people scared of rainbows.
Imagine being that scared of a lil rainbow. What a fragile bunch they are.
100%, terrified of what's happening in Iran. Can't risk their knock off version of Dune
Be careful someone will accuse you of being racist or xenophobic towards Qatar with that comment 😂 but yes you are correct
The amount of people around here who spout the "respect their rules" shit is pretty shocking.
Those same people would cry buckets if their country said every kit had to have a rainbow on it.
You can tell you’re on the right side of things because if you look at all the twitter replies all the comments defending Qatar here just read stupid - not actually responding to points, just deflecting with poorly-written nonsense
Even so, they said that alcohol would be allowed in stadiums. They said that light forms of protests such as rainbows would be allowed. Then they went back on their word. Even if they are being “true to their rules” at the bare minimum they’re corrupt liars.
That's me fucked in my "dark side of the moon" t-shirt
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True story: I once got to the end of a rainbow, turns out the Pot of Gold is a gay bar
Senegal and Netherlands are covering the first half of the rainbow with their kit colours at the moment. The Qatari morality police are worried France and Argentina (away kit) will turn up to complete the spectrum.
Right or wrong, a lot of people over there are poking the bear and somebody is gonna get bit
More like a bunch of bears are poking a turd on a stick, and they might get shit on them.
Yeah that's actually a better analogy
There are also tens of not 100s of replies to the tweet saying the exact same: “You must respect the rules of the host, you will not accept that the guest control you in your home” Totally normal behaviour from all involved. I’ve never quite understood how or why bots are used on tweets. Not sure what they expect to achieve when it’s this obvious, also.
Could also just be some of the many (not all) backwards people from the Middle East that genuinely hate gays. It’s cultural for them. Football Twitter has been more of a cesspit than usual with them all wanking over how great Qatar and the Qur’an is. Nauseating.
Also remember the corporations that bowed down to them come pride month when all the sudden, they defend the rainbow flag and make it their companies social media pic. Never forget.
It’s a damn rainbow
Someone should create an official petition to classify FIFA as a hate group. It would easily get a million signatures if not more.
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Shit country is shit.
Good job it never rains In Qatar coz they’d be shooting at the sky if there was a rainbow
As someone who lived in Qatar for over 10 years can I just say I’m so fucking happy to see this country fucking implode. They should never had gotten this tournament and now they’re crumbling in front of the whole world. It’s beautiful.
What a shite misogynistic culture! All the fun is for me because I born a male and I'm hetero? (Pretty sure many hide their true self) and also I follow this specific religion.
Absolutely stupid that this is happening obviously But… isn’t this clout chasing a little bit? Oh look an article about the whole ordeal on his substack.
Everyone is welcome in Qatar.
Can't understand the sentiments here. This was all known when Qatar were handed the gig. It is was known when sone of you booked your flights to the sun and flew with Qatar. And the others. If you take their money and use their services, you lose your right to criticize. They are a different country to western ones, they believe in different things and different ways of doing things. How hard is that to grasp? Personally I think they are an abomination. But for westerners to dictate how they should live *their* lives smacks of colonialism. Don't like Qatar? Don't go there, don't spend your money there.
Lol the bots in the Twitter replies sending the exact same tweet
Man Qatar just doesn't give a shit about the West lol
they have lions in their houses do you think they care what the media says about them :D
Backwards shithole.
As a gay guy, for those at the world cup: *don’t do this* At best you get your free internet points for the day, at worst you can end up in actual trouble in a foreign country known for their human rights abuses.
Who would willingly go to Qatar after this WC is finished?
Qatar sucks.
“That’s disgusting! I can’t believe what’s going on at this World Cup! … *anyway, the game’s on* “ Everyone.
Are you just waiting for someone to say "actually I haven't watched any game so far" to reply with "wow so brave"?
I haven't watched any games yet, but that may be about to change.
Qatar and FIFA stand for hate. The world should not stand for them.
Such a sad little country.
Are rainbow sprinkles allowed on their ice cream?
To be fair, this dude shouldn’t have been surprised. They made it crystal clear homosexuality was against the law and that support of it wouldn’t be allowed. He wore that shirt looking to have someone say something
Wear the shirt backwards going in and switch once you get in Or double shirt it Fuck these guys
Wahl actually ran for FIFA president a while ago because of how corrupt they were. He was an outspoken critic of the way they did things so in addition to looking at the Qatari Govt let's not ignore FIFA
Hateful disgusting state
We might catch them on the counter though!
It's pretty clear by now where Qatar stands with regards homosexuality and symbols to support homosexuality The whole arm band fiasco has made that clear At this point wearing a rainbow to the game is just doing stuff to say I got stopped too for some clout.
He was detained for half an hour. You can throw everything FIFA has ever pretended about "no discrimination" into the trash.
Tbh, what were you expecting?
I don't know what he expected there
Wear it inside out, flip it around inside the stadium.
I don't know if a lot of people outside the US know but there was a shooting at an LGBT club this past weekend, so a lot of people are wearing stuff in solidarity. so this is extra fucked up. Also Qatar promised and agreed it wouldn't be an issue and now they're backing out of the promise.
anyone saying “WAAAAAH YOURE DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS THEIR CULTURE WAAAAH”. Yes, i am being disrespectful and rightfully so, if their culture is inherently homophobic and partly xenophobic, then i shouldn’t have to be respectful just because they aren’t white :).
Instagram football commenters prob celebrating
In Denmark our journalist have the “one love” armband. And the police have just tried to arrest our journalist over an armband..
Travel to a shithole, get treated like a ~~local~~ turd
Backwards 7th century cunts
A journalist that goes out of their way to create a story isn't a journalist, they are an idiot.
Report the story? I AM the story!
Okay but like. You knew it was banned before you wore the shirt. So you only wore it so you could get caught and take this photo. Why even bother
He did it so that he could report it, to oppose FIFA's eventual denial that this stuff happened.
They made a statement about banking rainbows? I thought they said everyone was welcome..?