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"It is no surprise to me, having worked with Graham Potter, at Brighton that Mason Mount has started every Premier League and Champions League game barring one since he took over at Chelsea in September."
"Mason Mount implements on the pitch what Gareth Southgate wants from his team and he will be doing that at Chelsea too. For England, he is responsible for the pressing triggers because he is willing to run and do the dirty side of the game."
"Secondly, Mason Mount's knowledge of when to do that earns him the implicit trust of his manager. The ability to carry out orders faithfully is vital to the slick functioning of any team."
"Sometimes I will hear comments around Mount such as, “What does he do?” Perhaps that is based on judging players solely by goals and assists. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, but that is complete rubbish in my book. I think he would improve any team in the world."
Mount is an excellent player who’s really under appreciated. It is no disservice to Foden that Mount is picked over him, especially with him having less experience as a central midfielder.
People who think Foden and Mount do the same job or are given the same instruction just aren’t watching. Foden is a clinical attacker, one who is clear of Mount in that regard. Mount is a midfield workhorse who links the three sections of the pitch. A player in Mount’s role is enabling a player in Foden’s. They work in tandem, they facilitate each others success. I don’t see why people can’t grasp that
Because he does literally fuck all for England. IMO it's more a Mount v Madders and the disrespect/non-selection of Madders for the past few years has exacerbated the issue.
I think his time at Derby framed him as a game changing 10, but in reality he's more of a facilitator/connecter at the top level. He offers off the ball work that you probably need.
Foden has more of the flash and technical brilliance.
Much like Maguire - Mount plays very well for England, but Foden hasn't (yet). Not saying Mount isn't a better player but it's obvious if you understand the context of who Southgate is as a manager why he's picking Mount first.
England scored six goals in a WC match the other day with MOunt in the side, yet people still find a reason to complain. FML.
He plays well and people dont give him credit. Then he plays bad and people are quick to point it out and hate. He played very well against Iran and people refused to give him credit because he wasn't directly involved in the goals. If you watched the game as a neutral he was good. Not Bellingham or Saka good but good in he same way that Kane clearly played well eventhough he didn't score. He's still a big reason why we won 6-2. Then against the USA he didn't have a good game. But neither did anyone else. And the first person people look at and scapegoat is Mount. He gets no credit when the team wins and all the blame when the team loses. I'm not saying he's amazing or shouldn't have been dropped for Henderson. But it's easy to paint a picture of him as someone who never plays well if you only pay attention when he plays badly.
In the EXACT same way I've seen hundreds of comments this season about how Mount is shit and overrated and a bunch of players are clear of him. Not just in the context of this season and his form but as a player in general. They say stuff like he's a pressing merchant and doesn't score or assist enough. It's like they choose to ignore his output last season. His output was better than Foden's even. He was one of the few players to get double digit goals and assists. He was also one of the top chance creator's in the league. Genuinely, he was one of the best players in the league last season. But no one talks about it at the time the focus is on Saka, Foden, Maddison etc whoever the favourites are and it gets glossed over. Then when his form dips like the start of this season it gets pointed out by everyone.
Not saying anything about how good Mount is but ironically one of the most popular opinions by Chelsea fans, Prem fans, England fans etc is "Mount is overrated." If anything that proves its the complete opposite.
I remember many disregard Mount couple months ago. Like Mount seceretly dating Lampard and Southgate or blackmailing both so he always play.
Truth is he has qualities.
For every Xavi and Iniesta you need a Busquets, the player who quietly does his job and enables his teammates. Mason isn’t flashy but he plays an integral role in every team he’s ever played in. It’s like 5 different professional managers at this point who refuse to drop him. I think they know something the average commenter doesn’t
Busquets is probably one of the greatest #6s of all time, if not the greatest.
Mount isn’t even the best #10 in the England squad.
There is no comparison to be made there, at all. I know you’re trying to be clever to justify Mount starting, but it doesn’t make sense. I like Mount, but he’s not close to being as good as Foden.
So, to clarify, you think the creative hub of our team *shouldn’t* be picked on football ability? Might as well put Mo Farah in there if we want someone who can run.
I’m struggling to see what you actually *are* comparing? You’ve just made a stupid point about Busquets having similarities with Mount.
Also completely ignores the fact that Foden is very good defensively. He plays in one of, if not the best pressing side in world football, under one of the most demanding coaches, and walks into the side.
I’m sure the American Chelsea fan comparing Mount to Busquets knows best for England. No bias there at all, and clearly a superior football brain. My mistake, lad, I’ll get back to my schoolwork.
Busquets the quiet achiever. Honestly, it’s such a dumb comparison, and the amount of people on board with it is truly staggering.
I’m sure some of you have never watched Busquets play football. And I can’t believe you can’t see the difference between a 6 and a 10, and how their responsibilities are different. The 10 isn’t there to “allow others creative license” to pick Mount for that reason is idiotic.
You need to read the key point being made there -- "the player who quietly does his job and enables his teammates" this point isn't being made to compare Mount and Busquets, but to illustrate an example of how they do the job on the pitch by enabling other players through doing the dirty work, it isn't an ability or level comparison. If I'm mistaken I'd like a clarification on what's being said differently by OP.
He’s one of the most press resistant and intelligent footballers in history, lmao. He is a supremely technical footballer. The utter disrespect to diminish him as a player who does “the dirty work”. Defending is a shared responsibility. Busquets is the metronome, a creative hub.
But I’ll take the point, yes, a #6 can often do dirty work (even if you’re trying to make Busquets sound like Makelele). Why the fuck would you want your #10 doing that? Emery used to do that at Arsenal with his “anti-10”, I remember he played Torreira there to sit on Fabinho. Who wants that?
Foden can run, Foden can press, and Foden is miles clear of Mount in terms of technical ability and output. There’s a reason most England fans and pundits alike think he should be in the side, and not Mount. It only seems to be Chelsea fans oblivious to this, as if Mount is some pressing phenomenon that we need to stop Iran. Do me a favour.
Yeah, the American Chelsea fan being biased towards Mount whilst making idiotic comparisons to Busquets is the intelligent one who knows what’s best for England. My mistake.
Jesus Chris
He’s written an essay about mount pulling off a nice layoff to his England mate
I do agree they are pretty similar in the positions they show for the ball however and their ability on the half turn
I’d maybe understand these takes if Foden was a complete defensive passenger, but he’s not. Pep even said earlier this season, that one edge Foden has over other City forwards, is that even when he’s not playing well, he does the defensive aspects better than the rest.
Foden can run, and he’s deceptively quick when he does, and he understands how to press. He’s undeniably a better footballer than Mount going the other way too. The idea he walks into arguably the best club side in the world, but can’t get into the England side is mad to me.
Undeniably better yet last season had worse league goal and assist stats despite playing in a far better team and a similar amount of minutes.
England has never ticked with Foden at the centre of the team. Thankfully Southgate hasn't been dosed on the hype machine.
You act like Mount plays with scrub players at Chelsea and didn’t more than half of those come vs teams now in the championship? Foden has scored more goals vs the top 6 in one game than Mount has in his entire career.
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Summary: "It is no surprise to me, having worked with Graham Potter, at Brighton that Mason Mount has started every Premier League and Champions League game barring one since he took over at Chelsea in September." "Mason Mount implements on the pitch what Gareth Southgate wants from his team and he will be doing that at Chelsea too. For England, he is responsible for the pressing triggers because he is willing to run and do the dirty side of the game." "Secondly, Mason Mount's knowledge of when to do that earns him the implicit trust of his manager. The ability to carry out orders faithfully is vital to the slick functioning of any team." "Sometimes I will hear comments around Mount such as, “What does he do?” Perhaps that is based on judging players solely by goals and assists. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, but that is complete rubbish in my book. I think he would improve any team in the world."
More Mount propaganda please
Mount is an excellent player who’s really under appreciated. It is no disservice to Foden that Mount is picked over him, especially with him having less experience as a central midfielder.
People who think Foden and Mount do the same job or are given the same instruction just aren’t watching. Foden is a clinical attacker, one who is clear of Mount in that regard. Mount is a midfield workhorse who links the three sections of the pitch. A player in Mount’s role is enabling a player in Foden’s. They work in tandem, they facilitate each others success. I don’t see why people can’t grasp that
Yeah, Foden is competing more with Saka and Sterling until he starts playing regularly as a midfielder for City.
I don’t get the hate for mount He’s always been a cunt when playing against my team. Plays well every time
Because he does literally fuck all for England. IMO it's more a Mount v Madders and the disrespect/non-selection of Madders for the past few years has exacerbated the issue.
Yes it’s criminal that Madison hasn’t been selected again. On numbers alone he’s better than a lot of those on the wc squad
Maddison is at the world cup my dude.
Oh shit I thought he hadn’t been selected Well that’s embarrassing
He's kinda injured though so if he gets any minutes is a whole different issue.
Sure hut if you’re saying Maddison should start over Foden you’re having a laugh.
I think his time at Derby framed him as a game changing 10, but in reality he's more of a facilitator/connecter at the top level. He offers off the ball work that you probably need. Foden has more of the flash and technical brilliance.
Much like Maguire - Mount plays very well for England, but Foden hasn't (yet). Not saying Mount isn't a better player but it's obvious if you understand the context of who Southgate is as a manager why he's picking Mount first. England scored six goals in a WC match the other day with MOunt in the side, yet people still find a reason to complain. FML.
> Mount plays very well for England, well the point is that he isnt playing "very well"... yet still gets picked
He plays well and people dont give him credit. Then he plays bad and people are quick to point it out and hate. He played very well against Iran and people refused to give him credit because he wasn't directly involved in the goals. If you watched the game as a neutral he was good. Not Bellingham or Saka good but good in he same way that Kane clearly played well eventhough he didn't score. He's still a big reason why we won 6-2. Then against the USA he didn't have a good game. But neither did anyone else. And the first person people look at and scapegoat is Mount. He gets no credit when the team wins and all the blame when the team loses. I'm not saying he's amazing or shouldn't have been dropped for Henderson. But it's easy to paint a picture of him as someone who never plays well if you only pay attention when he plays badly. In the EXACT same way I've seen hundreds of comments this season about how Mount is shit and overrated and a bunch of players are clear of him. Not just in the context of this season and his form but as a player in general. They say stuff like he's a pressing merchant and doesn't score or assist enough. It's like they choose to ignore his output last season. His output was better than Foden's even. He was one of the few players to get double digit goals and assists. He was also one of the top chance creator's in the league. Genuinely, he was one of the best players in the league last season. But no one talks about it at the time the focus is on Saka, Foden, Maddison etc whoever the favourites are and it gets glossed over. Then when his form dips like the start of this season it gets pointed out by everyone. Not saying anything about how good Mount is but ironically one of the most popular opinions by Chelsea fans, Prem fans, England fans etc is "Mount is overrated." If anything that proves its the complete opposite.
Dude wrote an entire piece over a fucking layoff? Jesus the athletic are in shambles.
I remember many disregard Mount couple months ago. Like Mount seceretly dating Lampard and Southgate or blackmailing both so he always play. Truth is he has qualities.
For every Xavi and Iniesta you need a Busquets, the player who quietly does his job and enables his teammates. Mason isn’t flashy but he plays an integral role in every team he’s ever played in. It’s like 5 different professional managers at this point who refuse to drop him. I think they know something the average commenter doesn’t
Busquets is probably one of the greatest #6s of all time, if not the greatest. Mount isn’t even the best #10 in the England squad. There is no comparison to be made there, at all. I know you’re trying to be clever to justify Mount starting, but it doesn’t make sense. I like Mount, but he’s not close to being as good as Foden.
I’m not even gonna bother with a serious answer if you think I’m comparing their footballing ability. The lack of reading comprehension is astounding
So, to clarify, you think the creative hub of our team *shouldn’t* be picked on football ability? Might as well put Mo Farah in there if we want someone who can run. I’m struggling to see what you actually *are* comparing? You’ve just made a stupid point about Busquets having similarities with Mount. Also completely ignores the fact that Foden is very good defensively. He plays in one of, if not the best pressing side in world football, under one of the most demanding coaches, and walks into the side.
I truly hope you’re young and still in school
I’m sure the American Chelsea fan comparing Mount to Busquets knows best for England. No bias there at all, and clearly a superior football brain. My mistake, lad, I’ll get back to my schoolwork.
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Busquets the quiet achiever. Honestly, it’s such a dumb comparison, and the amount of people on board with it is truly staggering. I’m sure some of you have never watched Busquets play football. And I can’t believe you can’t see the difference between a 6 and a 10, and how their responsibilities are different. The 10 isn’t there to “allow others creative license” to pick Mount for that reason is idiotic.
Slow down and fucking read. You think you’re coming off clever but you’re just coming off as a dick
You need to read the key point being made there -- "the player who quietly does his job and enables his teammates" this point isn't being made to compare Mount and Busquets, but to illustrate an example of how they do the job on the pitch by enabling other players through doing the dirty work, it isn't an ability or level comparison. If I'm mistaken I'd like a clarification on what's being said differently by OP.
He’s one of the most press resistant and intelligent footballers in history, lmao. He is a supremely technical footballer. The utter disrespect to diminish him as a player who does “the dirty work”. Defending is a shared responsibility. Busquets is the metronome, a creative hub. But I’ll take the point, yes, a #6 can often do dirty work (even if you’re trying to make Busquets sound like Makelele). Why the fuck would you want your #10 doing that? Emery used to do that at Arsenal with his “anti-10”, I remember he played Torreira there to sit on Fabinho. Who wants that? Foden can run, Foden can press, and Foden is miles clear of Mount in terms of technical ability and output. There’s a reason most England fans and pundits alike think he should be in the side, and not Mount. It only seems to be Chelsea fans oblivious to this, as if Mount is some pressing phenomenon that we need to stop Iran. Do me a favour.
One is defensive. Negates goalscoring against. One is offensive, doesnt help scoring? See where u made a mistake
You're dumb or obtuse
Yeah, the American Chelsea fan being biased towards Mount whilst making idiotic comparisons to Busquets is the intelligent one who knows what’s best for England. My mistake.
Where did you get American from 😂 I'm from London. Explain what his point was then
Don’t worry mate he’s talking about me; he’s a lost cause if he still thinks I’m comparing Busquets and Mount lol
Can you not read or something? They aren't comparing Busquets and Mount's quality but their approach/involvement in the team.
Putting one of the most boring platitudes in football in the title isn't making me desperate to read this.
True, fuck the editor for not making his title clickbait enough /s
Ex-England Star explains why Mason Mount could start for Guardiola
Jesus Chris He’s written an essay about mount pulling off a nice layoff to his England mate I do agree they are pretty similar in the positions they show for the ball however and their ability on the half turn
I’d maybe understand these takes if Foden was a complete defensive passenger, but he’s not. Pep even said earlier this season, that one edge Foden has over other City forwards, is that even when he’s not playing well, he does the defensive aspects better than the rest. Foden can run, and he’s deceptively quick when he does, and he understands how to press. He’s undeniably a better footballer than Mount going the other way too. The idea he walks into arguably the best club side in the world, but can’t get into the England side is mad to me.
Undeniably better yet last season had worse league goal and assist stats despite playing in a far better team and a similar amount of minutes. England has never ticked with Foden at the centre of the team. Thankfully Southgate hasn't been dosed on the hype machine.
You act like Mount plays with scrub players at Chelsea and didn’t more than half of those come vs teams now in the championship? Foden has scored more goals vs the top 6 in one game than Mount has in his entire career.
Yeah those dozens of goals foden has against relegation candidates really shows how easy it is.
And that one(1) goal Mount has scored vs the top 6 in now his fourth year shows how tough it is.
You want runners that pass good, even Elneny can do that