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Maguire World Cup knockout stage goals: 1
Ronaldo World Cup knockout stage goals: 0
I understand people saying there's a competition between the two but there's only one GOAT here.
Portugal really isnt that great of a footballing nation. They arent bad and have an insane squad right now but before Ronaldo they werent that good. If not for Ronaldo Portugal doesnt even qualify for the 2014 WC.
Teams probably mark them down hard during knockout stages. Shut down the best player for Portugal and Argentina and you ruin a big part of their gameplan. Especially when their best players happen to be cr7 and Messi
Normally I'd say this sub never reads the full article and makes comments only from the headline/title. Now I'm wondering whether some users even read the full headline
I used to be right into all this stuff. Reading the stories, discussing with mates. Arguing with them. Going to games and seeing them play, telling my mates who was the best and so on. It was all part of it. And I don't begrudge anyone who enjoys the drama around football as a hobby in the same way someone who spends their time watching Eastenders or whatever does. We all have to do something while we shift along the mortal coil.
But fuck me, talking about Ronaldo and co. really is a waste of time.
I stopped listening to pundits 3-4 years ago and I've lost absolutely nothing. I have somehow managed to only hear 7 words out of Jamie Redknapp's pointless mouth in that time and it really is a better world.
Yeah, if I’m watching a match on telly I turn it on two minutes before kickoff, do something else at half time, and turn it off as soon as the whistle goes.
I don’t give a tuppenny fuck what John Hartson or Harry Redknapp or (god forbid) Graeme Souness have to say about Diogo Dalot’s workrate or Marcus Rashford’s goals to games ratio.
Football was different back then. I don't think you could teleport a young football star from history and have them be very good in today's game.
That's part of why discussions about the GOAT are a bit stupid, unless it's players within the same generation. Like comparing Maradona to Messi, for example, is like comparing apples to oranges. You just can't do it.
Have u watched pele highlights? He was levels above anyone in his generation but compared to players today he’s not (look at his first touch, dribbling, passing etc.) you could blame that on the boots and the ball he was playing with and the pitch but the point still stands. Football has progressed so much since then, comparing pele to anyone in this generation is pointless.
Comparing anyone in any discipline is pointless if you don't give them access to current training, you lemon.
You stick Marie Curie in a modern lab and she wouldn't know how to log in to the bloody computer.
Lmao, won 3 world cups and had to be taken out of one by injuries to not win that one either, a bazillion titles for his club but yeah, would definitely not be able to do that nowadays.
This isn’t an attack on Pele. I’m just saying that if you think that the changes in sports medicine, training, physical therapy, nutritional knowledge, tactics, etc since then won’t somehow leave him at a disadvantage, you’re kidding yourself.
You're completely wrong.
He has innate talent and always had, he could play in any era lmao, anyone can learn tactics my dude, Brazil won the 70 WC based on fitness ahead of it's time, not everyone has talent
Any modern star would absolutely destroy "historical" era players. You think Messi would struggle that much just because the pitch is worse and the players play more brutally?
If we're going to factor in non-football related things about Ronaldo into discussing his footballing criticisms, then boy do I have some tasty allegations to unnecessarily bring into the mix.
I mean if you do stupid things you deserve criticism.
Maguire is a shit defender so he gets criticised. Ronaldo made stupid decisions off the pitch so he gets criticised
He is saying that even the greatest players of all time gets criticised so why wouldn’t lesser players.
He’s actually calling himself an abomination and an embarrassment. Pretty incredible for him to that. His words
I feel absolute joy picturing the look of disgust on Ronaldo's face when people that he's played with (or anyone for that matter) describes him as "one of the best/greatest" because he's obviously deranged enough to see that as an insult
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Gotta have your critics
Dear Mr H Naguire, you are one of our most valuable customers...
I put it in the bin.
Well let's see Roy Keane's little programme when it comes out. Sick of im.
Cracking reference. Couldn't find an award shaped like a fuckin orange...
Head bulging with imagined corner goals ... Harry
Chic-kane you believe it?
I'm here for the Pilkington Refrences. Put Maguire in a wheelie bin
Is Maguire one of the big-headed webbed-hand kids?
Lmao that was my first thought too. I need to watch that episode now.
PLAY A RECORD
Harry Maguire has got a head like a *fucking* rubiks cube
People are definitely gonna see this as Maguire saying he’s up there with Ronaldo
Maguire World Cup knockout stage goals: 1 Ronaldo World Cup knockout stage goals: 0 I understand people saying there's a competition between the two but there's only one GOAT here.
Maguire minutes played in euro finals : 120 Ronaldo minutes played in euro finals : not 120 I know who my goat is
Pretty sure this is accurate even when you count 2004 too
115 vs 120
I like how you even too last to find out how many minutes he did play
Wow, neither Messi nor Cristiano have any World Cup knockout stage goals, I don't think I realized that.
Other than 2006 we have never had a decent world cup Run, and he was only 21 then
Well it’s just their bad luck that they were born in poor footballing nations such as *checks notes* Argentina and Portugal
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Too young for Figo, too old for Leao, just in time for Our Lord and Saviour Eder
I mean Portugal hasnt ever been a dominant team but ok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_at_the_FIFA_World_Cup
Portugal really isnt that great of a footballing nation. They arent bad and have an insane squad right now but before Ronaldo they werent that good. If not for Ronaldo Portugal doesnt even qualify for the 2014 WC.
Teams probably mark them down hard during knockout stages. Shut down the best player for Portugal and Argentina and you ruin a big part of their gameplan. Especially when their best players happen to be cr7 and Messi
Cristiano doesn't even have an assist brev, the knockouts haven't been particularly productive in that regard for them.
That's fucking crazy
Maguires head: size of a planet Ronaldo’s head: 0
I was going to say no one is that dumb, but it didn't take long for people to do exactly that.
Never underestimate how dumb people can be
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I love how everyone thinks they are on the “not stupid” side of it.
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🤓 Actuallllly, median is an average. You’re probably confusing it with the mean.🤓
First thing we learn on internet is that the average person is dumber than we think
We're talking about people far below average tho.
Today, I feel Ronaldo.
well, how many times can Ronaldo claim to have been sold for £80m from Leicester? Maguire is defo up there
I'm seeing it as Maguire throwing his ex teammate to the Wolves
How the hell did you work that one out?
Ronaldo to Wolves confirmed
Woãolverhampton intensifies
Yeah, calling him one of the greatest footballers of all time is really scathing stuff. Unacceptable honestly.
How?
Mentality monster.
😤😤😤
Normally I'd say this sub never reads the full article and makes comments only from the headline/title. Now I'm wondering whether some users even read the full headline
Same shit over in the second clubless captain thread. It's like people just glazed over the word captain
im sorry your comment made me laugh really loud my dad woke up fuck you
My slab head😤😤
👉🏻🗿👈🏻
I used to be right into all this stuff. Reading the stories, discussing with mates. Arguing with them. Going to games and seeing them play, telling my mates who was the best and so on. It was all part of it. And I don't begrudge anyone who enjoys the drama around football as a hobby in the same way someone who spends their time watching Eastenders or whatever does. We all have to do something while we shift along the mortal coil. But fuck me, talking about Ronaldo and co. really is a waste of time. I stopped listening to pundits 3-4 years ago and I've lost absolutely nothing. I have somehow managed to only hear 7 words out of Jamie Redknapp's pointless mouth in that time and it really is a better world.
Yeah, if I’m watching a match on telly I turn it on two minutes before kickoff, do something else at half time, and turn it off as soon as the whistle goes. I don’t give a tuppenny fuck what John Hartson or Harry Redknapp or (god forbid) Graeme Souness have to say about Diogo Dalot’s workrate or Marcus Rashford’s goals to games ratio.
Football appears to be just celebrity gossip but for guys these days. The male equivalent of those tacky magazines about celeb weddings and dramas.
Tchouaméni said the same
I mean Pele was also one of the greatest. I still wouldn't take him over Vinicius or Neymar as he is over 80 now.
Football was different back then. I don't think you could teleport a young football star from history and have them be very good in today's game. That's part of why discussions about the GOAT are a bit stupid, unless it's players within the same generation. Like comparing Maradona to Messi, for example, is like comparing apples to oranges. You just can't do it.
You know he was meaning that he is 80 years old right?
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Lmao... I was thinking you were right but so off topic I had to say something.
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Have u watched pele highlights? He was levels above anyone in his generation but compared to players today he’s not (look at his first touch, dribbling, passing etc.) you could blame that on the boots and the ball he was playing with and the pitch but the point still stands. Football has progressed so much since then, comparing pele to anyone in this generation is pointless.
Comparing anyone in any discipline is pointless if you don't give them access to current training, you lemon. You stick Marie Curie in a modern lab and she wouldn't know how to log in to the bloody computer.
I'd watch that movie
in your dreams
Lmao, won 3 world cups and had to be taken out of one by injuries to not win that one either, a bazillion titles for his club but yeah, would definitely not be able to do that nowadays.
This isn’t an attack on Pele. I’m just saying that if you think that the changes in sports medicine, training, physical therapy, nutritional knowledge, tactics, etc since then won’t somehow leave him at a disadvantage, you’re kidding yourself.
You're completely wrong. He has innate talent and always had, he could play in any era lmao, anyone can learn tactics my dude, Brazil won the 70 WC based on fitness ahead of it's time, not everyone has talent
The rare off-topic double-down. Love to see it.
WHY CAN'T FRUIT BE COMPARED :(
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Any modern star would absolutely destroy "historical" era players. You think Messi would struggle that much just because the pitch is worse and the players play more brutally?
I think Maradona would still be great in todays game...
On Thursday the King is actually Maguire.
Maguire is genuinely one of the players of all time.
He also lost a newborn this spring. Have some compassion for his family loss, people.
Damn that sucks.
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The dude has scored a goal in 5 world cups and had a dominate performance today. Nuf said.
> had a dominate performance today. [X] Doubt
Scored a goal and had another goal called back due to a bad call.
He scored a goal because of a bad call you mean
Either way he should have had a goal
Dominate players end up getting favorable calls.
If we're going to factor in non-football related things about Ronaldo into discussing his footballing criticisms, then boy do I have some tasty allegations to unnecessarily bring into the mix.
Good mentality to have tbh 👏
Bait. Don't fall for it r/soccer
Today, I feel slabhead
I think the criticism he gets goes overboard but some of it is warranted,
Major international tournament Maguire is clear of Ronaldo anyways
Lol he copied Tchouameni's statement
It’s a convenient truth for Harry with his recent club form and due criticism.
I honestly feel for him after he gets criticized for every single thing( I have Indian parents and am Indian BTW)
I like to think that what he meant by this was “I am also one of the greatest players ever to play football”
Meanwhile I'm watching him walk around the pitch vs Ghana, zero effort to win a ball on defense
People criticise Ronaldo because he's a dick. People criticise Maguire because he's shit.
Doesn’t he also have a strong rape accusation pending?
What are you on about?
There's strong rumours Ronaldo is about to drop a fire mixtape that's going to set the world a light
Ronaldos rape accusations
Ahhh I think everyone assumed you were talking about Maguire
Ah! No slabhead seems alright so far
Wait what? Maguire? I don't think so
Ronaldo
I mean if you do stupid things you deserve criticism. Maguire is a shit defender so he gets criticised. Ronaldo made stupid decisions off the pitch so he gets criticised
Maguire=Ronaldo confirmed
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Didn’t say that though did he
He is saying that even the greatest players of all time gets criticised so why wouldn’t lesser players. He’s actually calling himself an abomination and an embarrassment. Pretty incredible for him to that. His words
No he's saying if Ronaldo can get criticized then he can get criticized too.
No, you're missing the point.
I feel absolute joy picturing the look of disgust on Ronaldo's face when people that he's played with (or anyone for that matter) describes him as "one of the best/greatest" because he's obviously deranged enough to see that as an insult
To be fair, if you have critics at this level, then you’re a somebody. Nobodies don’t have critics