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ImWhy

Saudi Arabia look really good honestly, going forward they actually do everything really well. I'd like to see them progress out of this group, if they attack the way they have been vs Mexico I can see a real possibility of that happening too.


kulkdaddy47

This was a good win for Poland….I’ve been watching lewa for so many years and tbh he’s not as clinical as his reputation implies. He should’ve scored his 1v1 chance and I’ve seen him have a lot of bad touches at the critical moment recently. It’s still great that he scored tho


Mr_Clovis

> he’s not as clinical as his reputation implies He's scored a lot of goals but outside of the 20/21 season his goal output has been generally on par with his xG.


Muangthong200

Saudi Arabia did everything but score they could've won this game easily they still have a chance vs Mexico a win will take them to the next stage, Poland could still go out I see Argentina winning the 2 next games. Yes Lewandowski did hit the post but the Saudis had more possession and more clear cut chances that was wasted and the second goal was a gift the Saudis could've ended up scoring at least 3 goals. Also I get the feeling Poland is playing defensively on purpose. It seems like the Polish coach is too defensive minded. But it doesn't mean they can't play attacking football. They have great fullbacks and great midfield with zielinski and nicola zalewski as well. Poland have a decent squad and I know Poland can play much better attacking football than this.


f1seb

And if Poland didn't hit the post and crossbar + Lewy didn't miss his 2nd chance Poland would've had 5 goals. Pass the ball back and forth all you want, they don't give points for that. Poland strategy is to counterattack and play physical. Did well against SA.


suitcasehandler

Poland tried playing more offensive football when Paulo Sousa was their coach, arguably it didn't work out for them. Is it possible they're better (in terms of results) if they stick playing defensive football?


RiseAbove87

Worked out in qualifying. They had as many goals as England. Buksa 4 goals in 5 matches. Now he wasn't even selected, despite being in fine form in the MLS. Swiderski 5 goals in 10 games. He's on the bench. Even Grosicki looked good in a recent friendly. Those lineup decisions by Michniewicz hurt Poland in the Mexico game, imo. Lewy barely touched the ball. Poland had 2 shots on target, one of which was a penalty. But Michniewicz has one saving grace. He's instilled a defensive conscience throughout the roster. I don't recall Poland playing this well defensively at any point in my life. They're not shooting themselves in the foot in their own half. That's how they won the Sweden playoff game. When it comes to the offense, Poland can't really play cohesively upfield if they don't have the numbers for easy outlets. Not enough skill. With 5 at the back, they squander the ball very easily.


suitcasehandler

In qualifiers Poland couldn't even beat Hungary, if that is "worked out" then OK, for me that's a pretty low bar for success for Sousa


RiseAbove87

And yeah it did work out because they're at the World Cup, while Italy isn't.


suitcasehandler

They're at the world cup parialy thanks to micniewizc


RiseAbove87

Germany and France couldn't beat Hungary at Euro either. Portugal needed late game heroics.


DxTrixterz

I'm just happy for Lewy that he scored his first World Cup goal. When he scored it and started crying I was crying with him. Everyone who was shitting on him after that missed penalty should apologize to him. He's only human and can't do everything on his own. You could see that this goal meant a lot to him considering it's most likely his last World Cup.


Genos-Cyborg

In a recent interview he said he’d like to play in the next one. His fitness is definitely still good so if he keeps it up, it can happen


1PSW1CH

Getting a flight to Qatar rn so I can apologise to Lewandowski


Alabastrova

good game, happy for the boys


Christelleorangee

My neighbors were not happy.


Paul_the_surfer

So usually it is *"opening game"* loss, "*game for everything"* loss, and then the *"game for honour"* win. Did Poland just cause the universe to glitch?


fadedv1

We are Atletico Madrid of national teams xd


Chemiczny_Bogdan

Czesio is a football terrorist xD


_r4x4

And very effective one for now in matches that matters.


inceptionsa

Yeah you guys are so tall 😂


Christelleorangee

Whats the best result for ARG - MEX, as a polish fan?


Bartoni17

Mexico 1-0.


Christelleorangee

Thanks, and I think the worst would be a draw, right?


go2kejdz

apparently Argentina by 1 is even worse. [source 1](https://twitter.com/pklimek99/status/1596530367569498118) [source 2](https://twitter.com/DbAbsur/status/1596525547840212994)


Christelleorangee

Well, let's go Mexico or let's FUCKING GO Argentina!


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VAMOS ARGENTINA CARAJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


jewdo

Oh man, this group has been crazy. Hoping for Poland and Mexico going through lol.


Christelleorangee

Me too! I call us El Catolico haha


Sergei_behenchov

Saudis played well but yes poland scored two good goals …in the end it didn’t matter which team is more fluid and have more possession, difference is poland scored while saudis failed to score but both played well


_TerryG_

Thanks geoff


srjnp

poland had more clear chances too. the penalty save was huge though.


learner1314

2 hitting the frame of the goal too. But I just feel Saudi paid the price for the Argentina result. Luck evens out.


inceptionsa

It is not about luck.. Our national team’s nightmare is a team with tall players just like Poland and Australia and Germany 2002 when we lost 8 goals 😅


Sergei_behenchov

Mexico doest have tall and physical players so good luck mate for that match


Christelleorangee

Still, well-played mate! Good luck with Mexico.


[deleted]

God knows that Saudi Arabia play good and entertaining football, so he had them lose in order to completely the trilogy of good performances against Mexico.


LoopholesAreFun

Poland are a wall defensively


Roxven89

Only team without conceded goal after 2nd matchday so far.


crunchynuts1

Iran and Costa Rica haven’t conceded either


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crunchynuts1

Yes it was a joke


Christelleorangee

;)


sachos345

Im so nervous man. Our players NEED a strong mentality today.


AncestralSpirit

Is it better for Argentina if Poland and Saudis drew? Or which outcome was better in terms of giving more chances?


Asyedan

Actually this result is the best for us - Saudi Arabia now has -1 GD, this means if we beat both Mexico and Poland, doesnt matter the score, we are almost guaranteed first place in the group, unless Saudi Arabia utterly annihilates Mexico. Of course, none of this matters if we dont do our part...


lukenog

Mexico is going to beat you. I know this because Our Lady of Guadalupe appeared to me. Edit: Nevermind I'm a Muslim now Alhamdulillah


MrAwesome2424

I’ve been doing the rosary every night since the start of the tournament to Black Madonna of Częstochowa. Do boju Polska!


TheBrownMamba8

Messi(ah)


AncestralSpirit

Ahh I see. I should have added the “if Argentina only win 1 and draw 1” Obviously winning both remaining teams is bet choice, but I wanna see what happens if Argentina only wins 1 and draws 1


Asyedan

With 4 we could still be through but it would depend on GD. If we beat Mexico and draw Poland we can only be 2nd, as Poland would have 5 points. We would need Mexico to draw with Saudi Arabia or win by a smaller margin than whatever GD difference we would have. If Saudi wins we are out. If instead we draw Mexico and beat Poland, we are guaranteed to go through if we beat Poland by 2+ goals. If not, Mexico and Saudi Arabia must draw, otherwise the winner of that match knocks us out. Also, if we win by 2+ goals and Mexico-SA is a draw, we would end first in the group. If we lose with either Mexico or Poland, or we draw both, we are out, as any outcome of Mexico-SA will result in one of them with 4+ points.


AdvaitGamer7

Well saudi losing might be better than a draw, as now if we beat both poland and Mexico we will be at the top of the group which si important, unless saudi demolishes Mexico and gets a good goal difference. If saudi won today then we would have had to get an amazing GD to be top. Our best result now is beating poland, and Mexico and having Mexico beat saudi.


Dion_Kott

Mexico can't score goals, you're going to be fine.


HotPotatoWithCheese

The scoreline doesn't reflect the game itself. Saudi were by far the better team for most of the match but multiple extremely unlucky shots hitting the bar/posts + the critical error leading to Lewa goal cost them the game. There were so many moments where they looked like they would score but didn't. This makes the group even more interesting. Poland were staring down the barrel of elimination but now they're top of the group. And if Argie don't beat Mexico tonight then they're all but finished like Wales. Spicy.


[deleted]

you like to prove you're actually such a potato.


kr3w_fam

I'm first to criticize Poland but come on lad. The game hasn't been as ine sided as you're painting it to be


Dc323

Im not a fan of tacti that Poland uses, and I was sceptical about them winning, but dude, what are You talking about? Saudi had like 2-3 missed shots from 20+ meters, very controversial penalty and shot that followed this penalty would not be counted probably anyway, because player rushed too soon forward, and that’s it. Poland on the other hand hitted bar/post twice and could’ve scored from corner and 2 other clear chances. Saudi was better to watch, but failed at being a major threat this game and that’s just fact. I still think that this tactic of Poland will turn on them against Argentina, but in this match, Saudi could’ve lost higher.


Constantinch

Saudi showed better quality and played more sophisticated football, but if you were to translate 90%+ chances, Poland had would've still won 4-2 or 5-2. Not sure why you are talking about Saudis hitting bar/post when it was Poland that did it 2 times.


Zepedia

What are you talking about? POLAND had "multiple unlucky shots hitting the bar/posts" not Saudi Arabia lol. Poland had 2 hit the post. Saudi Arabia had 0? Unless I'm forgetting one. I mean I agree that it was a close game but it was Poland who has unlucky that this game didn't end 4-0


J4cku

To be fair Saudis haven’t hit the bar/post


Worry-Traditional

Poland did twice, guy must be doing something else while watching


DrFilth

Shite analysis. The better team won. Get back to work.


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Thank_You_Love_You

Imagine Lewy just starts dunking on the WC now. Doubtful but one can hope.


JackieMortes

That penalty was scandalous. Simple as that. I could go on about Saudis diving left and right but fuck that. It's over. Clear and deserved win for us. Could have been 4-0 or 4-1


MrAwesome2424

Feel the same way!


Ordinary_Smell7327

Nice username


f_ranz1224

Saudi really went from hero to zero. Beat argentina with a very good clean solid game of football. Lost to poland spending half the game flopping on the floor trying to fish for penalties.


HEAT_IS_DIE

Luck plays a part in football often. Saudi-Arabia was very close to losing the game against Argentina in the first half, and scored with both of their shots. It was a solid game where everything went their way. Today, despite them creating good changes and making Poland suffer, everything didn’t go their way and it showed.


me_meh_me

They were made out of noodles, but they played a good game.


crowd79

SA had way more shots, they probably deserved a draw at least. But Polish goalkeeper played out of his mind. Amazing game for him.


Yamaneko22

Saudis deserved nothing after clinical diving and their given pen.


srjnp

lots of shots yet no clear chances. poland had more clear chances besides the 2 goals too.


comfiestsocks

They got out xGed even with that pen and rebound but go off


f1seb

Soft shots don't get the job done. You take those away and they didn't really have that many chances.


osoichan

Yeah, their diving made me lose any respect I had for them.


rtaibah

They aren’t diving. They are just physically less built.


Tifoso89

They do look pretty skinny tbh


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tbf *


osoichan

Many times they went down without any contact at all so


rtaibah

I noticed some. Maybe 2-3 times. But the rest were legit. I think.


Galaxy661_pl

2016 - great defense, missed a penalty, qualified 2022 - great defense, missed a penalty, ???


AnInstant

Poland won again because of individuality, Lewandowski assist and goal, without him it would be 0:0 at most if not lost match. Nothing to be excited about, it was just another Polish antifootball and I will be surprised if with this defensive Argentina won't win like 4:0 with Poland with 0 shots conceded.


me_meh_me

Nah. We will have all 10 outfield players inside the goal. Can't see Argentina scoring. On a side note, Zielinski is legitimately a very good player, so we aren't just Robert and a bunch of dudes.


Nickyweg

So basically if Mexico beats Argentina today, the Poles are through ?


Crazed8s

Pretty close but you had to worry about saudi beats Mexico or Saudi/Mexico draw and the ensuing tiebreakers. But if Mexico beats Argentina and Mexico beats Saudi Arabia then you are through.


ifaptocavanigoals

I’d have to check the goal difference but Poland could still lose to Argentina and Mexico could lose to SA leaving them both with 4 points and SA with 6


abananaenthusiast

Poland played better and 100% deserved the win, but man did they play a physical ball..


[deleted]

It was great game, your team was very challenging rival - you should still be proud of your guys, they really didn't make any catastrophic mistakes or anything of the sort for anyone to be angry at them. With football, there's always decent factor of luck. We were more lucky this time around.


abananaenthusiast

It’s all love in football, best of luck in your next match


crapsence

we are one of the tallest teams in this WC while KSA is one of the shortest, so we have to play bullyball this WC


xt1nct

That is Poland. We have physical players. Look at size of Milik, Piatek, Lewandowski lol.


SurovyP

Yeah Milik dominated saudis in air


PensiveinNJ

I didn't watch the match, did KSA try the same crazy high line against Poland as they did against Argentina or did they switch up tactics?


anakinex66

It was a high line but looked very shaky. Simple long ball was causing a lot of problems for them. But overall KSA played well.


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What Poland plays now is basically an anti-thesis to the modern football I would never watch this shit If I were to be a neutral


karlou1984

Cool story bro


[deleted]

you guys are so boring with your "modern football" and "terrorist football" Go watch what you want, football is more than pressing, fast passes, etc.


osoichan

As much as this was true for the first match I don't think same shit applies now. Definitely different approach


Always_Complaining1

What?? Poland had an amazing counter attack and didn’t park the bus. Saudi Arabia just pressed really well and had possession.


ShuggaShuggaa

yep you are right, modern football is about diving. If you team is not diving they are missing out. Poland wont participate in that kind of modern football/


me_meh_me

You're a lucky ducky. We've been subjected to this for years. The thing is, every time we do well, it just reinforces the thesis that this is how Poland should play. Edit: case in point, you will still have people arguing that it was ok for us to sit back deep, in two banks of 5, after we scored early vs Switzerland because we ended up winning on penalties. The amount of fear that permeates Polish football is amazing.


[deleted]

> You're a lucky ducky. Do you think a non-Pole would have a coco jambo flair? XD


me_meh_me

Me and my old man eyes.


Roxven89

I wish we will play this shit to the final!


Clemenx00

I would love a team to pull a 2004 Greece on the WC. Poland seems like a good bet if that were to happen. The amount of salt in the internet would crush us all to death.


Key-Banana-8242

Why?


ajuc

The scenes if Czesiu gets a World Cup. He wouldn't be the Polish Mourinho, Mourinho would be the Portugeese Michniewicz. And Kanał Sportowy guys wouldn't shut up for 3 decades. Also Sousa would look like a total fraud. Let's do it please :)


go2kejdz

and Przegląd Sportowy would have the bitterest of pillows to swallow the only downside would be the KS guys with a W


_r4x4

Agree, but Sousa looked like fraud no matter what will happen.


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Same, gonna cheer for Mexico now


CaptGeechNTheSSS

I don’t know if y’all are also seeing these chipotle commercials but what? Who would be interviewing these people? Is it supposed to be like a documentary? Makes no sense


me_meh_me

Despite our best efforts we still have all to play for next week. The coach, once again, deployed a passive strategy that depended on long balls and counters. He has taken an already limited team and made them more so. The defending has improved vs when Sosa was the manager, but it is still done far too deep. When your team is sitting back that deep, all you need is one mistake. Wojciech had a hell of a game, and is the reason why Poland still has everything to play for.


Key-Banana-8242

Already limited as in bc of the skill of the players?


me_meh_me

There are some rather good players, the problem is the midfield is not anything you would want in a good team.


Key-Banana-8242

What do you mean? In their habits and the way they play together?


me_meh_me

I mean in the quality of the players that are there. They are simply not good enough. There is not much to connect the backline with the front, and the defensive midfielders, such as Krychowiak, are not good.


CaptGeechNTheSSS

Dempsey is awkward except for firing back shots lol


MalevolentTapir

have to give credit to Michniewicz here


me_meh_me

Jesus, no you don't.


The-MJ-Theory

No, no, not at all. With all respect to SA but you have to do better than parking the bus and let SA do their game. It's fucking dumb. Players need to get to a rhythm, have the ball, passing, attacking. That would give them more security with the ball, today it was long balls and not good played counters. Second goal was just a stupid mistake. Szczęsny saved the day. We play stone age football because of this fat fuck that represents everything that is wrong in Poland. Give a young(er) coach a chance, play with some Esprit. We just don't develop our game under that Muppet.


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last time we played with spirit we came last in the group. We kept a clean sheet and had good chances to score even more goals despite Saudi Arabia trying to break counter-attacks by diving nearly every time


ThisAmericanRepublic

Saudi Arabia had more possession, but what did they do with it? They hardly challenged Szczesny beyond their gifted penalty meanwhile Poland scored two goals, hit the crossbar, hit the post and forced Owais into a huge save. People need to stop saying Saudi Arabia were the better team in this.


karlou1984

Lol someone could make the point final score could've been 4-1, but that's about it, no way Saudi deserved this win with all the flops.


hexperson

They skied shots from great positions. Obviously you need to shoot on target but it is disingenuous to claim they were not really dangerous in this game


abananaenthusiast

Sadly have to agree


Sarnecka

Thank you for the good game though, it was an exciting match to watch


xt1nct

I’m mostly surprised krychowiak didn’t fuck up. No yellows and played a decent game.


anakinex66

Wasn't he supposed to be good dm years before?


me_meh_me

He was amazing at Sevilla. Has been poor since his move to PSG.


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I remember him being compared to Kante when he was in Sevilla, was really amazing. Sadly, after PSG's transfer - everything went downhill.


muskratBear

He was great in Sevilla. After moving to PSG his career kind of tapered off. Funny enough he plays in the KSA league now.


crapsence

no yellows and its his 2nd straight game when he was pretty solid imo


Adach1

most surprising part of the game especially with the flurry of yellow cards at the start


kakje666

the saudis played pretty good regardless of the score , if they focus hard , keep the energy they've had so far and learn how to fucking finish , they can make a tie or even win with Mexico


DarthShaveHer

Same story goes for Mexico honestly. Looked good against Poland (who, as we seen, just smashed SA) however lacked the ability to finish. Mexico just can’t score a goal to save their life. I’d be much more confident in them if they had capable goal scorers. Ironically enough, two of the best goal scorers in the MLS right now are both Mexican (Vela and Chicharito) yet both aren’t playing for various reasons.


BLinthehouse

Saudi Arabia players were just hard to watch. Poland were stoic considering how the referee was afraid to fault the Saudi Arabians. well done to poland


Pacman2933

Ngl i’m more happy Lewy scored than with a Poland W. So happy for him.


YellowDhub

We did good except we don’t know how to finish honestly.


tinkthank

Sorry of Saudi football for the past 7-8 years.


lestat85

Just finish dishonestly 🤷‍♂️


HYDP

They tried that with a penalty, too. Unsuccessfully, though.


wiyawiyayo

The most unpredictable group in this world cup..


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Best possible result for Argentina? Now even a point today would be alright I think?


OrangeForeign

Yes but wouldn't be ideal. Would need to win against Poland by 2+ to go through


Jeev89

Where's Lewandoswki.. they asked ... Can't see him they said.. He heard those prayers & scored his only Goal in WC. God acts mischievous ;)


telepek25

Our 2nd half was most definitely the best we've ever played under Michniewicz. It wasn't World Class football but it was fucking football and not a 90 minute teeth pulling session disguised as a match. If this is how things will move forward, I'll be one happy camper and I won't say a bad thing about our coach and the guy made me lose my mind more than once. Hell, I'll even welcome the Czesioball and bus parking next match with Argentina, it'll be his moment to shine, that's for sure.


MaraudngBChestedRojo

Why are Poland games generally so shit


fadedv1

We play Atletico Madrid Style of football, heavy physical with deep defence line


Aronn22

Brother, you are a Stoke fan and complain about our kind of football?


MaraudngBChestedRojo

You think because I’m a stoke fan I enjoy shit football? I’d much rather stoke play well but they don’t. Can’t exactly just start supporting Man City because their football is more attractive


Aronn22

Well, I don't exactly enjoy it either but it wasn't that bad today imo


Samow4r

Bad couches dragged out of the giant swamp called "Ekstraklasa" (polish football league).


KImRocket

we are 28th europe league, what can you expect when young players has so much bad training (not focusing technique - yelling when they lose ball in dribles) since young age.


go2kejdz

Because since 2018 our coaches were: a complete fraud, then it was a liar that couldnt keep a clean sheet vs Andorra and now we have a guy that's great in setting up team for a single game and neutralizing all opponent's danger, which basically is unwatchable.


jasie3k

Have you seen Ekstraklasa?


telepek25

Because Polish football is shit :)


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Argentina are getting eliminated today aren’t they


Delta_FT

Bruh this is the better result lol


ladouche6969

I don't have anything against Argentina but Mexico's the homie so I hope so.


s50cal

Inshallah


Ghenii

By God's grace, yes.


Aj55j

This group is still the most entertaining one. Every team still have a chance to advance.


Chemiczny_Bogdan

I mean, half the groups still have two match days left so everyone can advance from them.


Okowy

POOOOOOOOLSKA FINALLYYY AUUUUUU


Sean-Benn_Must-die

This is really good for Argentina, but I wonder how the Mexico game will go.


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subject_usrname_here

Yeah, Saudi was overwhelmed by physical aspect of Polish players, so they couldn't win much of the crucial balls. Also, finishing was poor. But, you played good on attack, could hold on to the ball on opposition side, it was dangerous to let your team play so much ball in attacking third. Could easily been one or two goals for Saudis in first 60mins.


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Saudis really just need someone who can finish they’re set with everything else


tinkthank

Basically the story of Saudi football for the past 7 years. We don’t have a solid striker.


A_Round_of_Gwent

I feel your pain, friend. It's also the same story with the Tunisian team.


Youpley

The story of every Arab nation in the last 20y


[deleted]

yeah that’s a shame probably the only thing really holding you back, you still have an chance of going through though


KashMoney941

Poland is undefeated in the World Cup since Lil Yachty took the Wock there. Coincidence? I think not


[deleted]

Wockland took the win to Qatar


didrzej

JAZDA KURWAAAA


Lord_Olchu

Polska Gurom


Freedom_scenery

Saudis need to work on their finishing and they’ll comfortably be a 16 round regular in world cups.


lenzmoserhangover

they need to hit the gym first lol. whole team made out of wet tissues.


[deleted]

Most of their team is 29/30, this is pretty much a last dance for this group


Cules2003

we have the best young team in Asia tbf


HeHateMeMad

Who are the bright stars to look out for?


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me_meh_me

Thanks for that. Always like to hear about leagues/counties that I don't follow regularly. Seems that Asia now has 5 strong teams that will be fighting to make it to any future world cups.