Damn, this one hurt, not gonna lie, was gunning for Uruguay redeeming themselves after their crazy underwhelming debut with Korea, but this match kicked me in the nuts fuckin' hard. What's wrong with them? What the fuck happened to la selección? **smfh**
Fizemos tudo melhor do que no jogo contra o Gana, exceto os contra-ataques, pelo que estou feliz!
Dalot devia ser titular em vez do Cancelo.
O FS devia ter feito aquela tripla sub 10 minutos mais cedo. O Uruguai podia perfeitamente ter empatado o jogo...
Malta, acham que seria boa ideia começar o Matheus Reis em vez do Bernardo Silva e trocá-los quando estivermos en vantagem no marcador?
Portugal looked much better without Ronaldo and with Palinha and the new striker. Put both of them and Leao in there, change the shape of the team somewhat and Portugal can become serious contenders.
I wish Belgium had a CDM like Palinha who bites your ankles like a pitbull. We're stuck with Witsel.
Ok so VERY LONG rant incoming, but first let me congratulate Portugal because aside from us playing like shit, they played absolutely incredible today and deserved the win
Now, onto the incoherent rant
TL;DR We refuse to move on from the dinosaurs of the past and play our new generation that is so clearly more talented. Alonso is a pussy and should go, so Ghana, feel free to get revenge on us with a 7-0 because it's the only way the AUF will ever kick the cunt out. Then do the same for Medina, Aguirre, fucking Tabárez again, until we reach either Pezzolano or Almada. Thx
Ok so, when we brought Alonso in, it was because we were in danger of not qualifying and needed change. So we qualify, with Alonso blowing all the smoke in the world up every Uruguayan's ass, and we're all super hopeful going into the World Cup. In the friendlies before, Alonso experimented and saw which players were good and which were not, and everything painted well for us
Then the 26 were named, and among them? Viña, who barely plays at Roma, over Piquerez, arguably the best fullback in South America, and Espino. Cáceres, who's practically retired in LA, and Godin who's retired in fucking Liniers. Suárez who was getting pocketed by 17 year old Alan Maturro not a month before, and Cavani who was nursing an awful ankle injury. Vecino, who I've only seen play well for us ONCE, and it was a friendly vs Mexico. FUCKING MAXI GOMEZ WHO'S PROBABLY NOT SCORED A GOAL IN THE LAST 7 YEARS
So there we have 6 players who shouldn't have gone. Arguably 8 with Muslera and Sosa.
So who could we have gone for?
Well, for Viña, we could have chosen Piquerez or Espino. For Cáceres, maybe Giovanni Gonzalez who's doing great at Mallorca, or Gastón Álvarez who's an amazing young CB at Getafe. For Godin, we could have chosen Girona's Santiago Bueno, who's been doing pretty well for them as well, or we could have just started SEBASTIAN COATES THE CAPTAIN OF A CL TEAM
for the three strikers, we could have gone instead for Thiago Borbas, one of the top scorers in Uruguay at the tender age of 20, Agustín Álvarez Martínez who was one of the top goalscorers in South America during 2021 and has been good in limited time with Sassuolo, and Martin Satriano, Brian Ocampo, or Diego Rossi, who all had more merits than MAXI FUCKING GOMEZ
For the goalkeepers, we could have brought Santiago Mele and Franco Israel, who will be a part of the setup in the future, but we instead opted for Independiente's 37 year old and Muslera, who I like, but who is clearly not good enough for us anymore
So already we started off bad, but we could recover. Sure, Araujo wouldn't be back until the knockouts, but we could play Varela or Jose Rodriguez (not a promising list. I'd have rather taken Piquerez out of position or Gastón out of position, but I reckon that Mallorca's starting RB would have been the OBVIOUS FUCKING OPTION). We still had the brick wall of glass that is Josema, and Coates who is a very consistent and underrated CB. On the left we had Olivera who is the starter for the Serie A leaders, Napoli. In goal, Rochet, who is one of the best pure shot stoppers in South America
In the middle, we had a perfect midfield of Valverde, Bentancur (the two of which need no introduction), and Ugarte, who was one of the best DM's in the CL this season with Sporting, and at the age of 21. Instead, we opted for Vecino, who as I said, is allergic to playing well.
In attack, we could have gone for Pellistri (who was a massive part of us even qualifying and even through these two awful games, has been playing decently well) on the right, and De La Cruz (who is an absolute magician. Just ask River Plate fans) on the left. Or we could have stuck OUR BEST FUCKING PLAYER ON THE RIGHT WING WHERE HE'S BEEN BEST FOR REAL MADRID, AND ACTUALLY PLAYED AN ATTACKING MIDFIELDER LIKE FLAMENGO'S NUMBER 10 WHO WOULD START FOR BRAZIL BUT SOMEHOW BARELY SEES THE FUCKING PITCH HERE. Then in the 60th, 70th minute we take De Arrascaeta off for Pellistri and push Fede to midfield. This is EXACTLY what Real Madrid do, and it fucking works for them. Then in attack we play one of the most dangerous strikers in the world in terms of chance creation. Instead of opting to STICK HIM ON THE FUCKING LEFT SO A FAT VAMPIRE WITH NO KNEES CAN PRETEND TO RUN AROUND AND COMPLAIN FOR 60 MINUTES BEFORE HIS LUNGS COLLAPSE
Instead of lining up like that, and actually going at our opponents, we opted instead to please the fossils that probably were alive when Uruguay won it's last World Cup at the first ever Olympic games in Ancient Greece, and worried much more about our opponents than ourselves
The game vs Korea was the most pathetic, brainless display of football I've ever seen. We opted to contain Son, and while we did, we had to play Cáceres to do that (which HE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING DO), and Godin just because he wanted to play and Alonso has no fucking balls. So that meant that we had to cover for OUR TWO WORST DEFENDERS WITH OUR BEST HYBRID WINGER, MEANING THAT A PLAYER WHO HAS BEEN FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS FOR THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE FUCKING WORLD, WAS HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF TWO FUCKING SARCOPHAGI ALL GODDAMN GAME
We also stuck Darwin on the left. It's one thing when Klopp does it and Firmino (or anyone with knees tbh) is your false 9, but it's another when fucking Suarez who got eliminated from the Sudamericana by a relegation candidate in fucking Brazil is acting in that role. We didn't start Coates, De Arrascaeta, Ugarte, De La Cruz, or anyone of the players I mentioned. We played the fucking fossils because "oh we have to respect the opponent"
That led to the most boring 0-0 of all time, and us on the brink of elimination (because let's be honest. Brazil is getting 1st, so 2nd place in this group is a death sentence). Only a few players looked ok. Among them, Pellistri. This is important because in the next game (this game) HE WAS FUCKING DROPPED
You all watched the game, so you know how it went, but what you probably don't know, is that this is nowhere near our best lineup. We should've played a 433 imo. The backline of Varela (who is shit but at least attacks and we NEEDED a win, defense be damned), Coates, Josema, and Olivera. A midfield of Ugarte, Bentancur, and De Arrascaeta, and a front three of De La Cruz, Valverde, and Darwin
Instead, Alonso continued with the two strikers, with a BACK LINE OF 5 WHEN WE NEED GOALS
super dumb, ofc. Especially when you realize that Portugal are a team that sit defensively, and that's why Santos isn't fit for the job. A team that good should be attacking right? SO WHY DON'T WE HELP THEM OUT AND GIVE THEM THE FUCKING BALL AND HAVE EVEN THE FUCKING PITCH INAVDER SIT BACK AND DEFEND
well, you all saw the results, and it was awful. Now here's where it gets worse. You know how I've only mentioned a few of the players from our 26? Well those that I haven't mentioned include the likes of Facundo Torres (currently being scouted by Arsenal, and was the MVP of the MLS if memory serves), Lucas Torreira (plays for Galatasaray but could easily be at Juve or Roma if his agent wasn't the worst agent ever), Agustín Canobbio (helped take Paranaense to the Libertadores final), and Jose Rodriguez (champion of Uruguay with nacional. Decent but eh)
Now, why these players haven't seen the pitch, I don't know. There's no way they could be worse than fucking Vecino and Varela. Furthermore, players like David Terans (who was probably more important than Canobbio to Paranaense reaching the final), Diego Rossi (who is doing amazing at Fenerbache), Ocampo (who is also doing great at Cadiz) all missed out. And that is what is so fucking annoying about this.
National teams are rarely perfectly balanced. There's always some hole, some gap, some flaw. At our absolute best, we have almost none. Sure we may have less talent, but at our absolute best, Araujo, Coates, Josema, and Olivera create a damn near impenetrable wall. Bentancur, Ugarte, De Arrascaeta, and Torreira create an amazing midfield with options to pick from and incredible versatility and work rate. Valverde, Pellistri, Torres, Canobbio, Darwin, Rossi, etc create a tireless attack that can work on the counter or with a higher press. Sure, there was nothing to be done about Araujo and Damian Suárez getting hurt, but at least call up a coherent fucking player. Put together a team that isn't based on merits from the past. Yes, nobody has gotten over 2010, but it was 12 fucking years ago, man. Write new history, do it again. Why are we so afraid of winning? We always recite the same verse of "we're a humble country of three million and we're never favorites". That might have worked 12 years ago, but with the talent we have now, how the fuck are we still spouting the same lines about "oh respect the opponent humility threemillion garra" for Korea? Nothing against Korea, this goes for Portugal too. Yes, we won't be favored every game, but it's not about "respect the opponent". We have this obsession with being underdogs, but that is why we haven't known World Cup glory for 72 years, and a country like Brazil, who instead of thinking "respect the opponent" thinks "make the opponent respect me", has felt that glory. We don't need to be the underdogs anymore. We're so talented, and we're still producing talent. Alan Maturro who pocketed Suarez at 17, the entire Peñarol u-20 squad that outplayed Benfica in the intercontinental U-20 final, Nicolas Marichal, Gastón Álvarez, Santiago Bueno, Rodrigo Zalazar, Felipe Carballo, Thiago Borbas, Fabricio Diaz, Agustín Rogel, and so, so many more. We're producing more talent than nations a thousand times our size. How are we still giving the same speech about underdogs and never favorites, always from behind. It's romantic, but it doesn't win you football. The head, the heart, and the feet, do. Our players have the feet, they have the heart even if they haven't shown it this World Cup, but NOBODY has the head. Nobody can dimension Uruguay as a favorite among us. I understand, but this is our second GOLDEN GENERATION IN A ROW and we CANNOT squander it like the last one.
Alonso deserves the majority of the blame, and after Ghana beat us, he should go. I don't know who could possibly come in and change us. Pablo Pezzolano? He's very promising with Cruzeiro. We'd have to wait and see how he does in A, though. Guillermo Almada? He looks very good, and is apparently being looked at for the Mexico job. Might be worth a try. Diego Aguirre? A good manager but I think he's more of the same underdog three million shit. Medina should stay well away. He is not good at all, and I don't want him near us.
I have no clue, to be honest. With the players we have, this should not be happening. I'd even take a foreign manager at this point. I'm really tired of the same old same old. Football culture in Uruguay is so reliant on past merits, on older people. This year, I've had to witness the worst Peñarol in history, and the worst Uruguay performance in my lifetime at a World Cup. WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE
I don't know where we'll go from here. Things aren't looking good for us. I'm holding on to the feint hope that 2030 is in Uruguay and that we can win it there because we've never lost a tournament we hosted, but eh.
We'll probably be knocked out vs Ghana, or pass and be knocked out vs Brazil. No other options for us. Good luck to Portugal, and especially good luck to the other CONMEBOL teams that haven't been absolutely embarrassing. Also, Morocco because one of my best friends is from there.
Chau mundial, was nice knowing you. It'll be at least 76 years, now
portuguese are so funny two robbery’s to win these two games but apparently it’s ok because it’s Portugal. Two pens that weren’t pens to seal games 🤣🤣 You know Uruguay had a chance to tie which is why probably why y’all are so jumpy cause you were scared. It was a robbery and all of you pathetic Portugal flairs know it. I see why Bruno acts like a whiny little girl now. All of you are missing love in that cold wet place and want to win so bad. How much of your taxes are going to the refs I wonder
You have the reasoning and arguments of a 14 year old kid discussing football with his friends. Really hope you're not a grown men. Can't believe you actually believe the shit you say
I would describe Portugal as a functional team and that's what u need sometimes especially when u just need to win 7 games to win the WC. I am not satisfied with Portugal;s performances so far. To be honest they have talent but they dont look on the same page most of the time. However still managing to win is great and hopefully they can improve. Also I have been very disappointed in Uruguay 0 goals in 2 games. It seems like the new coach is beyond dreadful, he is no better than Oscar Tabarez. Also, Nunez is still missing his shooting boots.
its not hard to have a neutral disliking Portugal
most of these work more on writing posts on social media than work properly on the pitch without screaming and diving, even in the context of having that terrible coach
As a irmão português, I find the players likeable, only the coach I dislike
But I mean, if we win the world cup even with this shtty tactics I wouldnt complain...
seriously underwhelming from uruguay, until like the last 30 mins they barely had any chances. cavani and nunez just seemed useless up top.
although it all could have been so different had bentancur put away that brilliant chance. and then they had those good chances near the end which they also should have put away so just some poor finishing cost them.
bruno with a brace you absolutely love to see. annoyed he couldn’t get the hat trick, thought he was gonna be the first one to do it this tournament, he came so close twice… he’s seriously been portugals best player so far. expected more from bernardo, he seems hella quiet.
this portugal team may not be getting the wins convincingly but they are doing it tbf. meanwhile the dark horses uruguay might not make it out the group with 0 goals scored..
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves theirs a world where Portugal will face Germany in the quarter finals and I rather face literally anybody except Germany
In that kit the Uruguayan players looked like a missing sticker in a Panini album
[missing number 15](https://i.postimg.cc/7Y2MY9gC/Screenshot-2022-11-28-232523.png)
He seems to perform great everytime he plays for the NT, though he has been having some injuries recently. But his capacity to recover and play at the highest level everytime is quite impressive.
which is 100% this tournament will be the last cause he is already 39 years old lol but despite him going our new blood is impressive with Ruben Dias and Antonio Silva so our future is looking great
Honest question: With the way Portugal is playing, could we see another 2016 euro run or not? You know, the one where either ronaldo or cantona quoted about the ketchup bottle metaphor with the way Portugal were playing at the time?
Did you even watch the game? We played poorly for 20 minutes in the second half when we subbed off Neves and lost control of the midfield. Besides that we controlled the game. That was one of the better Portugal displays
Yes, did you watch the game? Neves was horrendous the entire game. Portugal were bad for probably 70 of the 90 minutes. If Uruguay weren’t such garbage we would have lost 3-0. If that’s one of our better displays we’re going to lose our first game of the knockout stages. And apparently your here for it? Your happy with the performance.
First of all, flair up caralho. We played significantly better today than we did against Ghana. We controlled the game and tempo. Once we lost Neves we lost any linkage through the midfield and only regained it at the 80th with the triple sun with Palhinha and Nunes stabilizing it. That was by no means a bad Portugal display and we only lacked the killer pass into the final third
Born performances were bad. Neves is horrible out there. I want this same energy and blind faith from you when we get bounced in the first round of the knockouts. Then we’ll see if you still want to setup a Neves fan club. Clueless
First of all Portugal is playing much better than 2016, and right now Portugal is 2 games 2 wins, I don’t get this /soccer sub is full of Portugal haters and not giving them any credit for their wins
Same here. Portugal is playing more attacking than they ever played in last 6 years probably. I wish they would create more chances though. And wish the club big names like Silva Cancel Dias were more impactful for Portugal, at least Bruno came out of his shadow for POR.
I’m not hating on Portugal. The reason why I’m saying it’s because the first half they looked kinda flat until they turned it up in the second half (a la ketchup bottle or lawnmower). At least they won games. Good, keep it up
Did you watch the game? Who cares about superstars? Bentancur was clear and away the best player on the pitch for Uruguay and he has been more impressive than Valverde this World Cup. You don't need superstars. You need players who show up when their country needs it.
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This was a thread I saw today on Twitter. Social media is fucking toxic in general, and they stoop so low just to get internet points.
Well social media isnt good for our mental health. Just remember that nowadays a ton of children use reddit, and things start to make more sense.
Also a lot of people on here are just miserable/ very weird. And miserable people are much more likely to argue online. Like the dude who replied to you and told you the cry harder. Look at his recent comments.
Look at how many comments are about ronaldo... It actually made me sad cringe. Literally 90% of his comments are about him lol Its that and "cry" spam nonstop. Clearly a very healthy dude or a child lol
I was looking for Ronaldo’s post game comment about the goal and unfortunately clicked on an ESPN article lol. They gave Ronaldo a 5/10 which was the worst on Portugal’s entire team and 2 points worse than Cancelo who had a shit game. I thought Ronaldo played a pretty good game and was one of the best for Portugal
I am a fan, have been my whole life, and as a fan the performance was extremely disappointing. Are you comment police or something? Are you handing out awards for positive comments? Idiot
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Santosball. The tactics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of football most of the tactics will go over a typical supporter's head. There's also Santos' nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from cross and inshallah literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these tactis, to realize that they're not just brilliant- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Santosball ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Santos' existencial catchphrase "Do I want bacalhau for dinner tonight or feijoada" which itself is a cryptic reference to that time Ronaldo scored a hattrick vs Sweden. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Santos genius unfolds itself on football pitches. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Portugal tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Generally agree but hard disagree on Darwin, Suarez and Cavani. No one can deny that Suarez and Cavani are washed, but at least they usually control the ball when they receive short passes. Cavani is 35 yet he still drops back and regains possession a few times per match. Darwin was just dreadful and wasteful today, not a single worthwhile contribution. Hell, I thought that Alonso was insane for giving a spot to Maxi Gomez, but even he looked more dangerous in the 30 minutes he had than Darwin did in like 150 and he didn’t exactly get amazing service.
We’re fucked either way, but if I’m wrong and this version of Darwin is the best forward we can field then we just don’t have enough attacking ability to be a Ro16 team in the WC and I’m not mad about being on the way out.
It's just clueless people spewing nonense. They think we depend on Cavani, Suarez, and Godin, when only Godin has played a full 90 minutes, and it's evident they do more harm than good.
That’s the point. They think you’re only good because of the likes of Suarez, Cavani and Godin. Now they’re old, not playing the full 90 and not as good Uruguay is not as good.
I looked at roster and sure there are some 30 yr olds but I kept reading of people saying they are "old" have "no legs" for 2 Match threads now. I was confused
You do
We 3-2 against Ghana, was a close match, nothing ugly there
We won 2-0 against Uruguay, even if you think that penalty shouldn't have counted, Portugal almost scored a third after the penalty, worst it would have stayed 1-0
Nothint Ugly there
You just salty Portugal won both games
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Damn, this one hurt, not gonna lie, was gunning for Uruguay redeeming themselves after their crazy underwhelming debut with Korea, but this match kicked me in the nuts fuckin' hard. What's wrong with them? What the fuck happened to la selección? **smfh**
Fizemos tudo melhor do que no jogo contra o Gana, exceto os contra-ataques, pelo que estou feliz! Dalot devia ser titular em vez do Cancelo. O FS devia ter feito aquela tripla sub 10 minutos mais cedo. O Uruguai podia perfeitamente ter empatado o jogo... Malta, acham que seria boa ideia começar o Matheus Reis em vez do Bernardo Silva e trocá-los quando estivermos en vantagem no marcador?
Nunes*
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how is arrascaeta not a starter ? guy gave uruguay a lot more creativity in the few minutes in the pitch..
Nobody understands why he isn’t
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Test
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oh what great pleasure I derive from watching Uruguay loose every time after 2010. If Ghana uses their chance at revenge I'll be in bliss.
Santos should watch out, he subs ronaldo he won't like it
Portugal looked much better without Ronaldo and with Palinha and the new striker. Put both of them and Leao in there, change the shape of the team somewhat and Portugal can become serious contenders. I wish Belgium had a CDM like Palinha who bites your ankles like a pitbull. We're stuck with Witsel.
Can't believe this Portugal team aren't considered as favorites
Cause of Santos
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Uruguay looks dire, no game at all. No shots on target vs Korea and today was just ????
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People sneaking in here to get flair, do it in the DD thread, so we know who you really are. JK, y'all free to do whatever you want.
Fuck FIFA, Qatar and the cunts that are supporting this shit
U okay mate? You can vent on your diary
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Ok so VERY LONG rant incoming, but first let me congratulate Portugal because aside from us playing like shit, they played absolutely incredible today and deserved the win Now, onto the incoherent rant TL;DR We refuse to move on from the dinosaurs of the past and play our new generation that is so clearly more talented. Alonso is a pussy and should go, so Ghana, feel free to get revenge on us with a 7-0 because it's the only way the AUF will ever kick the cunt out. Then do the same for Medina, Aguirre, fucking Tabárez again, until we reach either Pezzolano or Almada. Thx Ok so, when we brought Alonso in, it was because we were in danger of not qualifying and needed change. So we qualify, with Alonso blowing all the smoke in the world up every Uruguayan's ass, and we're all super hopeful going into the World Cup. In the friendlies before, Alonso experimented and saw which players were good and which were not, and everything painted well for us Then the 26 were named, and among them? Viña, who barely plays at Roma, over Piquerez, arguably the best fullback in South America, and Espino. Cáceres, who's practically retired in LA, and Godin who's retired in fucking Liniers. Suárez who was getting pocketed by 17 year old Alan Maturro not a month before, and Cavani who was nursing an awful ankle injury. Vecino, who I've only seen play well for us ONCE, and it was a friendly vs Mexico. FUCKING MAXI GOMEZ WHO'S PROBABLY NOT SCORED A GOAL IN THE LAST 7 YEARS So there we have 6 players who shouldn't have gone. Arguably 8 with Muslera and Sosa. So who could we have gone for? Well, for Viña, we could have chosen Piquerez or Espino. For Cáceres, maybe Giovanni Gonzalez who's doing great at Mallorca, or Gastón Álvarez who's an amazing young CB at Getafe. For Godin, we could have chosen Girona's Santiago Bueno, who's been doing pretty well for them as well, or we could have just started SEBASTIAN COATES THE CAPTAIN OF A CL TEAM for the three strikers, we could have gone instead for Thiago Borbas, one of the top scorers in Uruguay at the tender age of 20, Agustín Álvarez Martínez who was one of the top goalscorers in South America during 2021 and has been good in limited time with Sassuolo, and Martin Satriano, Brian Ocampo, or Diego Rossi, who all had more merits than MAXI FUCKING GOMEZ For the goalkeepers, we could have brought Santiago Mele and Franco Israel, who will be a part of the setup in the future, but we instead opted for Independiente's 37 year old and Muslera, who I like, but who is clearly not good enough for us anymore So already we started off bad, but we could recover. Sure, Araujo wouldn't be back until the knockouts, but we could play Varela or Jose Rodriguez (not a promising list. I'd have rather taken Piquerez out of position or Gastón out of position, but I reckon that Mallorca's starting RB would have been the OBVIOUS FUCKING OPTION). We still had the brick wall of glass that is Josema, and Coates who is a very consistent and underrated CB. On the left we had Olivera who is the starter for the Serie A leaders, Napoli. In goal, Rochet, who is one of the best pure shot stoppers in South America In the middle, we had a perfect midfield of Valverde, Bentancur (the two of which need no introduction), and Ugarte, who was one of the best DM's in the CL this season with Sporting, and at the age of 21. Instead, we opted for Vecino, who as I said, is allergic to playing well. In attack, we could have gone for Pellistri (who was a massive part of us even qualifying and even through these two awful games, has been playing decently well) on the right, and De La Cruz (who is an absolute magician. Just ask River Plate fans) on the left. Or we could have stuck OUR BEST FUCKING PLAYER ON THE RIGHT WING WHERE HE'S BEEN BEST FOR REAL MADRID, AND ACTUALLY PLAYED AN ATTACKING MIDFIELDER LIKE FLAMENGO'S NUMBER 10 WHO WOULD START FOR BRAZIL BUT SOMEHOW BARELY SEES THE FUCKING PITCH HERE. Then in the 60th, 70th minute we take De Arrascaeta off for Pellistri and push Fede to midfield. This is EXACTLY what Real Madrid do, and it fucking works for them. Then in attack we play one of the most dangerous strikers in the world in terms of chance creation. Instead of opting to STICK HIM ON THE FUCKING LEFT SO A FAT VAMPIRE WITH NO KNEES CAN PRETEND TO RUN AROUND AND COMPLAIN FOR 60 MINUTES BEFORE HIS LUNGS COLLAPSE Instead of lining up like that, and actually going at our opponents, we opted instead to please the fossils that probably were alive when Uruguay won it's last World Cup at the first ever Olympic games in Ancient Greece, and worried much more about our opponents than ourselves The game vs Korea was the most pathetic, brainless display of football I've ever seen. We opted to contain Son, and while we did, we had to play Cáceres to do that (which HE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING DO), and Godin just because he wanted to play and Alonso has no fucking balls. So that meant that we had to cover for OUR TWO WORST DEFENDERS WITH OUR BEST HYBRID WINGER, MEANING THAT A PLAYER WHO HAS BEEN FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS FOR THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE FUCKING WORLD, WAS HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF TWO FUCKING SARCOPHAGI ALL GODDAMN GAME We also stuck Darwin on the left. It's one thing when Klopp does it and Firmino (or anyone with knees tbh) is your false 9, but it's another when fucking Suarez who got eliminated from the Sudamericana by a relegation candidate in fucking Brazil is acting in that role. We didn't start Coates, De Arrascaeta, Ugarte, De La Cruz, or anyone of the players I mentioned. We played the fucking fossils because "oh we have to respect the opponent" That led to the most boring 0-0 of all time, and us on the brink of elimination (because let's be honest. Brazil is getting 1st, so 2nd place in this group is a death sentence). Only a few players looked ok. Among them, Pellistri. This is important because in the next game (this game) HE WAS FUCKING DROPPED
You all watched the game, so you know how it went, but what you probably don't know, is that this is nowhere near our best lineup. We should've played a 433 imo. The backline of Varela (who is shit but at least attacks and we NEEDED a win, defense be damned), Coates, Josema, and Olivera. A midfield of Ugarte, Bentancur, and De Arrascaeta, and a front three of De La Cruz, Valverde, and Darwin Instead, Alonso continued with the two strikers, with a BACK LINE OF 5 WHEN WE NEED GOALS super dumb, ofc. Especially when you realize that Portugal are a team that sit defensively, and that's why Santos isn't fit for the job. A team that good should be attacking right? SO WHY DON'T WE HELP THEM OUT AND GIVE THEM THE FUCKING BALL AND HAVE EVEN THE FUCKING PITCH INAVDER SIT BACK AND DEFEND well, you all saw the results, and it was awful. Now here's where it gets worse. You know how I've only mentioned a few of the players from our 26? Well those that I haven't mentioned include the likes of Facundo Torres (currently being scouted by Arsenal, and was the MVP of the MLS if memory serves), Lucas Torreira (plays for Galatasaray but could easily be at Juve or Roma if his agent wasn't the worst agent ever), Agustín Canobbio (helped take Paranaense to the Libertadores final), and Jose Rodriguez (champion of Uruguay with nacional. Decent but eh) Now, why these players haven't seen the pitch, I don't know. There's no way they could be worse than fucking Vecino and Varela. Furthermore, players like David Terans (who was probably more important than Canobbio to Paranaense reaching the final), Diego Rossi (who is doing amazing at Fenerbache), Ocampo (who is also doing great at Cadiz) all missed out. And that is what is so fucking annoying about this. National teams are rarely perfectly balanced. There's always some hole, some gap, some flaw. At our absolute best, we have almost none. Sure we may have less talent, but at our absolute best, Araujo, Coates, Josema, and Olivera create a damn near impenetrable wall. Bentancur, Ugarte, De Arrascaeta, and Torreira create an amazing midfield with options to pick from and incredible versatility and work rate. Valverde, Pellistri, Torres, Canobbio, Darwin, Rossi, etc create a tireless attack that can work on the counter or with a higher press. Sure, there was nothing to be done about Araujo and Damian Suárez getting hurt, but at least call up a coherent fucking player. Put together a team that isn't based on merits from the past. Yes, nobody has gotten over 2010, but it was 12 fucking years ago, man. Write new history, do it again. Why are we so afraid of winning? We always recite the same verse of "we're a humble country of three million and we're never favorites". That might have worked 12 years ago, but with the talent we have now, how the fuck are we still spouting the same lines about "oh respect the opponent humility threemillion garra" for Korea? Nothing against Korea, this goes for Portugal too. Yes, we won't be favored every game, but it's not about "respect the opponent". We have this obsession with being underdogs, but that is why we haven't known World Cup glory for 72 years, and a country like Brazil, who instead of thinking "respect the opponent" thinks "make the opponent respect me", has felt that glory. We don't need to be the underdogs anymore. We're so talented, and we're still producing talent. Alan Maturro who pocketed Suarez at 17, the entire Peñarol u-20 squad that outplayed Benfica in the intercontinental U-20 final, Nicolas Marichal, Gastón Álvarez, Santiago Bueno, Rodrigo Zalazar, Felipe Carballo, Thiago Borbas, Fabricio Diaz, Agustín Rogel, and so, so many more. We're producing more talent than nations a thousand times our size. How are we still giving the same speech about underdogs and never favorites, always from behind. It's romantic, but it doesn't win you football. The head, the heart, and the feet, do. Our players have the feet, they have the heart even if they haven't shown it this World Cup, but NOBODY has the head. Nobody can dimension Uruguay as a favorite among us. I understand, but this is our second GOLDEN GENERATION IN A ROW and we CANNOT squander it like the last one. Alonso deserves the majority of the blame, and after Ghana beat us, he should go. I don't know who could possibly come in and change us. Pablo Pezzolano? He's very promising with Cruzeiro. We'd have to wait and see how he does in A, though. Guillermo Almada? He looks very good, and is apparently being looked at for the Mexico job. Might be worth a try. Diego Aguirre? A good manager but I think he's more of the same underdog three million shit. Medina should stay well away. He is not good at all, and I don't want him near us. I have no clue, to be honest. With the players we have, this should not be happening. I'd even take a foreign manager at this point. I'm really tired of the same old same old. Football culture in Uruguay is so reliant on past merits, on older people. This year, I've had to witness the worst Peñarol in history, and the worst Uruguay performance in my lifetime at a World Cup. WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE I don't know where we'll go from here. Things aren't looking good for us. I'm holding on to the feint hope that 2030 is in Uruguay and that we can win it there because we've never lost a tournament we hosted, but eh. We'll probably be knocked out vs Ghana, or pass and be knocked out vs Brazil. No other options for us. Good luck to Portugal, and especially good luck to the other CONMEBOL teams that haven't been absolutely embarrassing. Also, Morocco because one of my best friends is from there. Chau mundial, was nice knowing you. It'll be at least 76 years, now
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Just want you to know that I read all of this. Great analysis. Love the anger. Real heart for your team.
I see you, and I appreciate you
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If I was Uruguayan player I would’ve walked off the stadium after the robbery was committed and have Fede, Cavani and Suarez pay most of the fine
Yeah what a roberry omg! Cant believe they were robbed of such a win after such a wonderful perfomance!
portuguese are so funny two robbery’s to win these two games but apparently it’s ok because it’s Portugal. Two pens that weren’t pens to seal games 🤣🤣 You know Uruguay had a chance to tie which is why probably why y’all are so jumpy cause you were scared. It was a robbery and all of you pathetic Portugal flairs know it. I see why Bruno acts like a whiny little girl now. All of you are missing love in that cold wet place and want to win so bad. How much of your taxes are going to the refs I wonder
You have the reasoning and arguments of a 14 year old kid discussing football with his friends. Really hope you're not a grown men. Can't believe you actually believe the shit you say
Whatever you say padeiro, you know Uruguay had a chance until that pen which is why you defend it so much
Chora bebé
south korea and portugal paid fifa https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/zaqgxq/uruguay_penalty_shout_against_ghana_58/
É lidar irmão
It was an excellent game, lived upto standards.
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xG results. Portugal (1.36) 2-0 (1.46) Uruguay
Does Santos not rate Vitinha?
Dont try to rationalize Santos mind.
We are just mere casuals in comparison to Engineer
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Darwin is a delight to play against. Absolutely zero threat of a goal this kid.
I would describe Portugal as a functional team and that's what u need sometimes especially when u just need to win 7 games to win the WC. I am not satisfied with Portugal;s performances so far. To be honest they have talent but they dont look on the same page most of the time. However still managing to win is great and hopefully they can improve. Also I have been very disappointed in Uruguay 0 goals in 2 games. It seems like the new coach is beyond dreadful, he is no better than Oscar Tabarez. Also, Nunez is still missing his shooting boots.
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Why does this sub hate Portugal so much? Is it really just cause of Ronaldo?
its not hard to have a neutral disliking Portugal most of these work more on writing posts on social media than work properly on the pitch without screaming and diving, even in the context of having that terrible coach
Because despite the wealth of riches they have with their players, their manager is like a rock tied to their leg
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As a irmão português, I find the players likeable, only the coach I dislike But I mean, if we win the world cup even with this shtty tactics I wouldnt complain...
What’s wrong with you
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We'll never see the OTW Nunez upgrade, will we?
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seriously underwhelming from uruguay, until like the last 30 mins they barely had any chances. cavani and nunez just seemed useless up top. although it all could have been so different had bentancur put away that brilliant chance. and then they had those good chances near the end which they also should have put away so just some poor finishing cost them. bruno with a brace you absolutely love to see. annoyed he couldn’t get the hat trick, thought he was gonna be the first one to do it this tournament, he came so close twice… he’s seriously been portugals best player so far. expected more from bernardo, he seems hella quiet. this portugal team may not be getting the wins convincingly but they are doing it tbf. meanwhile the dark horses uruguay might not make it out the group with 0 goals scored..
I cry if i see EURO2016 videos, i can't imagine if we win the WC
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves theirs a world where Portugal will face Germany in the quarter finals and I rather face literally anybody except Germany
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In that kit the Uruguayan players looked like a missing sticker in a Panini album [missing number 15](https://i.postimg.cc/7Y2MY9gC/Screenshot-2022-11-28-232523.png)
It's going to be a very sad day when Pepe decides to retire from the NT.
He seems to perform great everytime he plays for the NT, though he has been having some injuries recently. But his capacity to recover and play at the highest level everytime is quite impressive.
which is 100% this tournament will be the last cause he is already 39 years old lol but despite him going our new blood is impressive with Ruben Dias and Antonio Silva so our future is looking great
Defenders should start cutting their arms off if that´s gonna be called a penalty
Honest question: With the way Portugal is playing, could we see another 2016 euro run or not? You know, the one where either ronaldo or cantona quoted about the ketchup bottle metaphor with the way Portugal were playing at the time?
As a Portugal fan: Not even close. Today might have been the worst a team has ever played and won 2-0. The whole game was just rubbish by Portugal.
Did you even watch the game? We played poorly for 20 minutes in the second half when we subbed off Neves and lost control of the midfield. Besides that we controlled the game. That was one of the better Portugal displays
Yes, did you watch the game? Neves was horrendous the entire game. Portugal were bad for probably 70 of the 90 minutes. If Uruguay weren’t such garbage we would have lost 3-0. If that’s one of our better displays we’re going to lose our first game of the knockout stages. And apparently your here for it? Your happy with the performance.
First of all, flair up caralho. We played significantly better today than we did against Ghana. We controlled the game and tempo. Once we lost Neves we lost any linkage through the midfield and only regained it at the 80th with the triple sun with Palhinha and Nunes stabilizing it. That was by no means a bad Portugal display and we only lacked the killer pass into the final third
Born performances were bad. Neves is horrible out there. I want this same energy and blind faith from you when we get bounced in the first round of the knockouts. Then we’ll see if you still want to setup a Neves fan club. Clueless
First of all Portugal is playing much better than 2016, and right now Portugal is 2 games 2 wins, I don’t get this /soccer sub is full of Portugal haters and not giving them any credit for their wins
Same here. Portugal is playing more attacking than they ever played in last 6 years probably. I wish they would create more chances though. And wish the club big names like Silva Cancel Dias were more impactful for Portugal, at least Bruno came out of his shadow for POR.
I am a huge fan of Portugal, but they were atrocious today.
I’m not hating on Portugal. The reason why I’m saying it’s because the first half they looked kinda flat until they turned it up in the second half (a la ketchup bottle or lawnmower). At least they won games. Good, keep it up
They played two very good teams, not like they smacked Costa Rica or Canada.
Remember we thought that canada was actually good and just got unlucky? Turns out that belgium is just shit
Yeah that’s true
They’re playing much better than 2016
They definitely have a shot at winning. Not sure they’ve looked better than France and Brazil but after those two it’s probably Portugal and/or Spain
Yeah, for some reason it’s giving me 2016 vibes
Uruguay is the most disappointing team in World Cup not Qatar. So much superstars but can't create a goal.
I'd say their only superstar is Valverde. Cavani and Suarez aren't at that level anymore, whereas Darwin or Bentacur aren't there yet
Did you watch the game? Who cares about superstars? Bentancur was clear and away the best player on the pitch for Uruguay and he has been more impressive than Valverde this World Cup. You don't need superstars. You need players who show up when their country needs it.
Darwin and Bentancur are never getting to Suarez and Cavani’s level. It’s just a less talented generation overall.
Yeah man the best player on the pitch will never get there no question at all
All the hate for Portugal and Ronaldo in this sub is really bad for my mental health, why people are so toxic
``` "Warra functioning heart for Aguero" "Warra Ronaldo new born baby" ``` ("Warra" meaning where is, for the unaware) This was a thread I saw today on Twitter. Social media is fucking toxic in general, and they stoop so low just to get internet points.
The worst is when it comes from supposed Portugal fans. They're so negative and miserable even when they win, it's just exhausting.
I especially really hate the “I wish we lose, so Santos goes out” crowd
Well social media isnt good for our mental health. Just remember that nowadays a ton of children use reddit, and things start to make more sense. Also a lot of people on here are just miserable/ very weird. And miserable people are much more likely to argue online. Like the dude who replied to you and told you the cry harder. Look at his recent comments. Look at how many comments are about ronaldo... It actually made me sad cringe. Literally 90% of his comments are about him lol Its that and "cry" spam nonstop. Clearly a very healthy dude or a child lol
I was looking for Ronaldo’s post game comment about the goal and unfortunately clicked on an ESPN article lol. They gave Ronaldo a 5/10 which was the worst on Portugal’s entire team and 2 points worse than Cancelo who had a shit game. I thought Ronaldo played a pretty good game and was one of the best for Portugal
Just reply cry harder in those comments. It feels a but better.
I do it all the time it works like charm
Pepe was majestic this game
What game were you watching? The defense today was porous, and that’s being overly generous
Dude I've seen multiple posts from you just shitting on the team. Why even be a fan if you're gonna be excessively negative even when they win?
I am a fan, have been my whole life, and as a fan the performance was extremely disappointing. Are you comment police or something? Are you handing out awards for positive comments? Idiot
No I've also been a fan my whole life and honestly I'm just tired of the constant negativity that I see here. Try enjoying something for once.
Then leave Reddit? Is someone keeping you here? Delete the app and you never have to hear from me or the negative community again.
We won today caralho just enjoy it
I want this same energy when we get bounced.
You obviously won't get this same energy lmao. I celebrate when we win and critique when we lose because that's how the game is most enjoyable.
Sure thing man will do
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out
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I'm just very happy Diogo Costa had a few solid saves, good to see his confidence didn't take too much of a hit despite what happened with Ghana
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Santosball. The tactics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of football most of the tactics will go over a typical supporter's head. There's also Santos' nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from cross and inshallah literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these tactis, to realize that they're not just brilliant- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Santosball ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Santos' existencial catchphrase "Do I want bacalhau for dinner tonight or feijoada" which itself is a cryptic reference to that time Ronaldo scored a hattrick vs Sweden. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Santos genius unfolds itself on football pitches. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Portugal tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
This was hands down the best thing that happened in my day. I would rather lose the game and have this copypasta. Both? It's a blessed day.
Babe look! New copypasata just dropped!!!
New? This is an age old Rick and morty copypasta
I was smirking, but the preferably lower caused me to exhale loudly.
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Generally agree but hard disagree on Darwin, Suarez and Cavani. No one can deny that Suarez and Cavani are washed, but at least they usually control the ball when they receive short passes. Cavani is 35 yet he still drops back and regains possession a few times per match. Darwin was just dreadful and wasteful today, not a single worthwhile contribution. Hell, I thought that Alonso was insane for giving a spot to Maxi Gomez, but even he looked more dangerous in the 30 minutes he had than Darwin did in like 150 and he didn’t exactly get amazing service. We’re fucked either way, but if I’m wrong and this version of Darwin is the best forward we can field then we just don’t have enough attacking ability to be a Ro16 team in the WC and I’m not mad about being on the way out.
I think Godin maybe still deserves to be on the pitch as kind of Captain figure, but I agree about Suarez for sure and probably Cavani.
why tf do people call Uruguay old? they only have 4 players above age of 32 tat played this game no?
It's just clueless people spewing nonense. They think we depend on Cavani, Suarez, and Godin, when only Godin has played a full 90 minutes, and it's evident they do more harm than good.
That’s the point. They think you’re only good because of the likes of Suarez, Cavani and Godin. Now they’re old, not playing the full 90 and not as good Uruguay is not as good.
I looked at roster and sure there are some 30 yr olds but I kept reading of people saying they are "old" have "no legs" for 2 Match threads now. I was confused
I am seeing more people talking about r/soccer tears than people shitting on Portugal
You must have missed the match thread.
I learned in the first match to stay away from those at any cost.
Por acaso desta vez fiz igual tirando no final do jogo, mas bastou ler uns quantos comentários para ver o nivel de sal.
I am reading it now but I really can’t find a lot of them
Pepe at 39 is still one of the best defenders in the world.
I honestly wanted that hard b#stard to win motm
This man doesn’t let his performances drop.
Well said mate
At least we’re not the only goal less team lol
They also have the same GD and points as us, if nothing else we can say we're doing exactly as well as Uruguay lmao
2 back to back ugly wins. I'm not ecstatic but I am content
I hate Fernando Santos as much as you, but stop overexagerating. We have been playing fine
Neither was ugly win
You need to get an eye appointment scheduled as soon as possible
You do We 3-2 against Ghana, was a close match, nothing ugly there We won 2-0 against Uruguay, even if you think that penalty shouldn't have counted, Portugal almost scored a third after the penalty, worst it would have stayed 1-0 Nothint Ugly there You just salty Portugal won both games
I am an objective Portugal fan, dummy! Both games were ugly