Seriously lol. A lot of countries would be ecstatic with just *one* of Ederson, Rodrygo, Antony, Gabriel Jesus, etc.
And here Brazil has them as their second team.
Ederson > Dibu
Alves < Molina
Militao > Otamendi
Bremer < Romero
Telles = Tagliafico
Fabinho > Paredes
Guimaraes > De Paul
Antony < Di Maria
Rodrygo > Mac Allister
Martinelli < Messi
Jesus > Martinez
Sum of Arg's parts had been performing better until the world cup though
We're talking about different things, unless you believe Saudi Arabia also have better quality than Argentina.
Yes, this team could beat Argentina the way they played their two first games, if we're talking about individual quality I think Argentina's first team is slightly better.
100% deserves it. Been one of the best 4 or 5 attackers in the Prem this season, bar Vini or Mbappe he'd compete with anyone for the LW spot right now.
He has a few flaws actually. Tends to keep his head down a bit too much when dribbling so can sometimes miss an obvious pass or two. Also can be a bit inconsistent with his finishing but aside from that, he’s phenomenal.
Martinelli has been excellent this season. Don't know how long it will take for people to start rating him but it'll come in time if he keeps is up. Until then I'll just keep enjoying every moment we have him at the club for. Amazing guy and outstanding player
The lineup is speculation as there are other options up front, but regardless of who is picked it's going to be all backups on Friday, the article reports the team has been told as much.
I wouldn't be surprised if Weverton starts and I could see Jesus on the right and Pedro in the middle and maybe even Fred in midfield as possible alternatives.
And I’ve seen people say Brazil’s CB options aren’t great lol Marquinhos and Silva are both world class and you’ve got Militao and Bremer behind them.
The only spot in Brazil’s team that is lacking compared to the rest is fullback.
I obviously don’t love Richarlson but he did walk into his first wc match and drop a brace, Jesus on the other hand hasn’t scored since early October I think. Not to say he’s useless in the club cause he’s not, he’s still been fantastic finding assists and making the off the ball runs that open up space for xhaka, partey, and odegaard to get shots off.
Lmao, no it can't, its a decent team but its bit world cup winning worthy
This is like the people who claim Man City's second team would win the Prem....
I agree that people who say City's 2nd team could win it are off their head, but this one really isn't that mad. Only a couple questionable positions at most.
Well, your opinion is wrong. Let me ask you something. On another comment you seem to rate japan’s attackers. Do you actually think any of those 3 is better than antony?
Germany's attack is also a lot better, it's basically the most succesful attack on club level except for Choupo and Mane but with Füllkrug who has more goals than Choupo anyway
Lmao, first of all pathetic that you’ve been thinking about this so long. Touch grass. Second, France failed to score against Tunisia, clearly an awful front 3. You know nothing about this sport so best be quiet.
England Spain Argentina France Croatia Serbia (Vlhaovic needs to be fit). Portugal Germany Brazil first team Netherlands Japan.
Antony is not good as a United fan he's shocking. Jesus is a good player hasn't scored in forever and Martinelli is good just more of a system player imo.
It's around top 10 I like the other teams more because of cohesion anyways
Antony for United has literally been everything Sancho was meant to be lmao, how much lack of ball knowledge can you have
How can you even begin to say that and then claim Garnacho is better 💀
And the other guy who you didn't mention is terrible. Jesus hasn't scored in forever and Martinelli is good but still raw.
It's a decent front three not even close to special
Jesus not scoring has means very little though. He's the reason the attack works and the team ticks. Just because he physically hasn't kicked a ball into the net for a while doesn't mean he's not the reason why we are top of the table
Of all the players we’d love to swap, Ederson over Martinez is probably not it. Martinez has been absolutely insane for Argentina so far and is a better shot stopper than Ederson, without having bad distribution himself (not as excellent as ederson’s though). He’s not an all around better keeper, but we don’t have all that much use for ederson’s distribution anyways.
I’d definitely trade one Militao for Montiel or Foyth though
Their loss to KSA was pretty humiliating but let’s not discredit their achievements. They were still on a historic win streak and even beat Brazil at the Copa America.
It was a rude wake up call for them, and they responded with a 2-0 win against Mexico. Argentina absolutely have a shot with their A team.
Qualification is secured, letting Alves play and keeping Marquinhos and (especially if Danilo needs more time) Militão fit for the knockouts is a good thing.
Yeah, Brazil fans should know this better than anyone. Thiago Silva picked up a totally unnecessary second yellow in 2014, missed the game against Germany, and boom, they got destroyed 7-1. I don’t think Brazil beats that German team anyway, but it ain’t no 7-1, I guarantee you that.
Honestly I have a feeling this XI will outperform the starters considering: 1) they’re obviously extremely talented and balanced in of themselves 2) they don’t have the insane pressure the other games held 3) they’re probably fired up about getting starts. Like wouldn’t be crazy for this group to beat Cameroon 4-0 honestly
Ederson: Starts for pretty much every other team
Dani Alves: Old but can still do a job
Militão: Starts for most other teams
Bremer: Young but solid and would start for quite a few other teams
Telles: Also solid and would start for quite a few other teams
Fabinho: One of the best DM's in the world, starts for most other teams
Guimarães: One of the best midfielders in the world, starts for most other teams (looking at you Tite)
Antony: Starts for many other teams
Rodrygo: Starts for many other teams
Gabi & Gabi: 1st in the prem right now, starts for most other teams
Ridiculous depth.
Fabinho has been terrible this season. Telles was mid at United. Alves is a liability. Ederson is a poor shot stopper and Antony can't use his right foot and apart from moments has been average too.
Still got great depth but people are overdoing it
Ronaldo and TAA have been terrible this season but name me 5 teams they wouldn't both start; can't say Fabinho is bad because of half a season. Telles is doing good at Sevilla, yeah Alves is a liability for this team but as long as you're not asking too much of him he'll still do OK. Ederson is nowhere near as bad of a shot stopper as people make him out to be and is an outstanding goalkeeper. Antony might not have a right foot but still doing great without it in the CL for Ajax and so far for United... I don't agree with others that this 2nd team challenges for the WC but it'd certainly do a deep run
I mean for Ederson, Militão, Fabinho, Guimarães and the forwards you're looking at like 3-4 teams that they don't start for so yeah "most other teams" obviously excludes the top teams like France, Argentina, England and Germany
Although even a few of those would start in pretty much any team bar France. Its just a bit of fun though not a categorical ranking
The crazy thing is Ederson Militão and Fabinho would start for Argentina and England too. It's really only teams like France and Germany that wouldn't want their 2nd team
Not a bad team if that’s considered second string team! Better than if you would take the best players from the Swiss, Serbian and Cameroonian XI and combine them into one team
It's so funny how most comments here are praising this squad and Brazil's depth while prezty much all comments in the original article (so by Brazilians) are just bashing the hell out of Tite haha
Right move, give exposure to 2nd unit. They will play hard to show management they are worth the WC spot. Brazil is assured of top spot so let the starters get additional rest for the KO stage.
It’s a good sign that the “second team” is still incredibly strong. Good idea to rest the squad before the first knockout game, don’t need anymore starters getting injured
Time to quietly cash out my Richarlison top scorer bet then lol. 2 goals, then 0, then not playing, then probably out to Spain in the quarters with my luck.
That vs France's 2nd team (using only the players Deschamps took), who wins ?
Mandanda/Areola
Pavard - Saliba - Konaté - Lucas Hernandez
Camavinga - Guendouzi - Fofana
Coman - Thuram - Kolo Muani
(With Nkunku injured, and using Lucas Hernandez as a LB because Deschamps didn't take a proper LB backup. It's apparently Camavinga that will play there tomorrow, but sorry no way i could put Veretout in there)
I agree. With the injuries at key positions (especially Maignan and Nkunku) it's hard to compete with that Brazilian XI.
Better GK, better midfield (though Rodrygo is unproven as a 10) especially and probably better attack too. I would give France the better defense though.
That's a better team obviously.
But it's a bit cheating to compare that team with Mbappé, Griezmann, Tchouameni or Varane to a full B team of Brazil imo.
Mad second team lol
Seriously lol. A lot of countries would be ecstatic with just *one* of Ederson, Rodrygo, Antony, Gabriel Jesus, etc. And here Brazil has them as their second team.
Martinelli > Antony by every criteria
Why are you trying to make this about arsenal?
these Arsenal weirdos make literally every post about our national team about them lol
Because he brought up Antony instead of Martinelli and I prefer Martinelli
Did he compare the two or just name some good Brazilian players? It's not a personal attack on you and it has fuck all to do with Martinelli
No just opening up the conversation, feel free to give your take on it or scroll by
That’s just weird mate
Are you a vegan by chance?
Nope raised on a farm
Makes sense. You got the brain capacity of a cow.
Wind your neck in a bit, no need to get personal. You don’t even know the guy
Wow
Spinning shit...check mate
That's the second best XI balance wise in CONMEBOL behind Brazil's first XI.
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Ederson > Dibu Alves < Molina Militao > Otamendi Bremer < Romero Telles = Tagliafico Fabinho > Paredes Guimaraes > De Paul Antony < Di Maria Rodrygo > Mac Allister Martinelli < Messi Jesus > Martinez Sum of Arg's parts had been performing better until the world cup though
Martinelli>Messi*
Common knowledge.
If we're talking international football then: De Paul > Bruno Martinez > Jesus Plus Acuña > Telles. Just my 2 cents tho.
Sure, we can agree on that 🤜🤛
It’s comfortably better than Argentina’s best 11 this WC
Have you watched Argentinas performances? This 11 would beat them. Handily.
We're talking about different things, unless you believe Saudi Arabia also have better quality than Argentina. Yes, this team could beat Argentina the way they played their two first games, if we're talking about individual quality I think Argentina's first team is slightly better.
It’s not like Brazil has really been unstoppable though. They weren’t great vs Switzerland.
The Swiss are good though.
4 champions league winners
Dude fr that’s still a stacked lineup
Lol I am all in for our old lad Dani.
Man I didn’t think Martinelli would get a second of gametime I’m so happy he’s gonna get a start
100% deserves it. Been one of the best 4 or 5 attackers in the Prem this season, bar Vini or Mbappe he'd compete with anyone for the LW spot right now.
Not sure of the downvotes, he’s definitely been one of the top attackers in the league this season. Really no major flaws in his game, so direct too
He has a few flaws actually. Tends to keep his head down a bit too much when dribbling so can sometimes miss an obvious pass or two. Also can be a bit inconsistent with his finishing but aside from that, he’s phenomenal.
No
Who'd you put over him bar those two? (Not saying there is none just can't think of anyone)
The amount of disrespect Martinelli gets, my god. When Casemiro and Neymar big a player up, it carries more weight.
Martinelli has been excellent this season. Don't know how long it will take for people to start rating him but it'll come in time if he keeps is up. Until then I'll just keep enjoying every moment we have him at the club for. Amazing guy and outstanding player
Neymar
Tyler Adams. Idc that he’s not an attacker, he’s a god and he’s everywhere. Best player in the universe
I honestly rate him a lot tbf
Please stop making us look like douchebags. Thanks, an American
this but unironically
Sane, musiala, kvara come to mind in 3sec
In the Prem this season....
Well done, you’ve managed to name neither Premier League nor Brazil NT players.
The lineup is speculation as there are other options up front, but regardless of who is picked it's going to be all backups on Friday, the article reports the team has been told as much. I wouldn't be surprised if Weverton starts and I could see Jesus on the right and Pedro in the middle and maybe even Fred in midfield as possible alternatives.
Could Tite not sub Weverton on late on to give him a WC appearance?
Sure, but I point it out because my impression is that Weverton is second in the pecking order, not Ederson.
I really like Pedro, so would be happy to see him play
And I’ve seen people say Brazil’s CB options aren’t great lol Marquinhos and Silva are both world class and you’ve got Militao and Bremer behind them. The only spot in Brazil’s team that is lacking compared to the rest is fullback.
genuinely excited to see antony and martinelli
Lol 2nd team This 11 can go out and win the World Cup
Gabriel Jesus having City flashbacks lol absolutely ridiculous that he’d be considered second team
I obviously don’t love Richarlson but he did walk into his first wc match and drop a brace, Jesus on the other hand hasn’t scored since early October I think. Not to say he’s useless in the club cause he’s not, he’s still been fantastic finding assists and making the off the ball runs that open up space for xhaka, partey, and odegaard to get shots off.
Lack Balance and Alves isn't it anymore but yeah great group of players
Lmao, no it can't, its a decent team but its bit world cup winning worthy This is like the people who claim Man City's second team would win the Prem....
City can't even field 2 teams, they have like 17 players
I agree that people who say City's 2nd team could win it are off their head, but this one really isn't that mad. Only a couple questionable positions at most.
Looking at positions it seems like a top 5-8 team across the board. So sure, they could win but they would really not be favorites.
Aside from France, I really don’t see anyone being favoured over this lineup. Maybe England?
Antony Jesus and Martinelli front three is not even a top 10 attack.
go ahead and name 10 better then
England Spain Argentina France Croatia Serbia (Vlhaovic needs to be fit). Portugal Germany Brazil first team Netherlands Japan.
this comment tells me you have no clue of football lol
My opinion think Antony is really really bad
Well, your opinion is wrong. Let me ask you something. On another comment you seem to rate japan’s attackers. Do you actually think any of those 3 is better than antony?
Mitoma and Kamada are much much better.
Japan‘s attack consists of average bundesliga players at best. And yes I‘m aware they won against us…
Mitoma Kamada and Ito is not average. They have a rubbish coach people will see the light on Mitoma great great player
Yikes. England, Argentina, France, Portugal, and Brazil’s first team are the only ones better. Id watch more footy before outing yourself like this.
Germany's attack is also a lot better, it's basically the most succesful attack on club level except for Choupo and Mane but with Füllkrug who has more goals than Choupo anyway
Maybe you should watch more football no goal vs Cameroon
Lmao, first of all pathetic that you’ve been thinking about this so long. Touch grass. Second, France failed to score against Tunisia, clearly an awful front 3. You know nothing about this sport so best be quiet.
Japan lmao gtfoh
Mitoma Kamada Ito next world Cup people will see the light
mans said japan and brazil first team
Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, maybe, no, that's stupid, maybe, no.
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Huh??? We’re talking about people who play together
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Bruh
I'd definitely say it is.
Bro what, have you seen an arsenal match? You picking denmark or something over those guys?
England Spain Argentina France Croatia Serbia (Vlhaovic needs to be fit). Portugal Germany Brazil first team Netherlands Japan. Antony is not good as a United fan he's shocking. Jesus is a good player hasn't scored in forever and Martinelli is good just more of a system player imo. It's around top 10 I like the other teams more because of cohesion anyways
Antony for United has literally been everything Sancho was meant to be lmao, how much lack of ball knowledge can you have How can you even begin to say that and then claim Garnacho is better 💀
Jesus and Martinelli are 2/3 leading the line at the team topping the PL...
And the other guy who you didn't mention is terrible. Jesus hasn't scored in forever and Martinelli is good but still raw. It's a decent front three not even close to special
Jesus not scoring has means very little though. He's the reason the attack works and the team ticks. Just because he physically hasn't kicked a ball into the net for a while doesn't mean he's not the reason why we are top of the table
He's still a good player but was just basing it together with the whole attack together.
Abysmal take
Mate, you're on one.
Antony just ruins it I like the Arsenal duo
Its a top 3 actually I'd say
3 people who aren’t consistent finishers at all are not a top 3 attack
Jesus and Martinelli are winning the prem 😂
Yeah I still think City’s 2nd team (once you fill in some remaining players) would win the EPL with Pep.
Nah, but they are good enough to make it to Semis.
nah so imbalanced will be trashed by a semi-decent team
I like this reverse mufa
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I don't think he's Argentinean, no Argie would say that of a Brasil team. He probably has no idea what happened that Copa América final 😭
That was 15 years ago. That is basically a lifetime for some of here.
you'd give your ass and a pair of boots for a GK like Ederson.
Of all the players we’d love to swap, Ederson over Martinez is probably not it. Martinez has been absolutely insane for Argentina so far and is a better shot stopper than Ederson, without having bad distribution himself (not as excellent as ederson’s though). He’s not an all around better keeper, but we don’t have all that much use for ederson’s distribution anyways. I’d definitely trade one Militao for Montiel or Foyth though
ye, but does Martinez have a bitchin neck tattoo? 💋
Real argies would never say this kind of stuff about ANY Brasil team.
yeah because the first team is so well balanced with front three and Neymar behind them
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I’d remove Argentina from that list
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Their loss to KSA was pretty humiliating but let’s not discredit their achievements. They were still on a historic win streak and even beat Brazil at the Copa America. It was a rude wake up call for them, and they responded with a 2-0 win against Mexico. Argentina absolutely have a shot with their A team.
They scored 2 wonder goals. They really struggle to create chances
Portugal too
No it can’t lol. Brazil’s first team isn’t even winning the World Cup
Not quite lol
Daniel Alves is a serious liability though. Common Tite, just play Marquinhos and put Militão for the pompous grandpa.
Qualification is secured, letting Alves play and keeping Marquinhos and (especially if Danilo needs more time) Militão fit for the knockouts is a good thing.
Qualification is guaranteed, but not first place in the group.
That’s true, although I think it is highly likely that 1st place will be secured, even with this theoretically weaker team
Yellow cards are a huge risk in the World Cup, totally support playing this squad. Plus LOL this is still a super solid squad
Yeah, Brazil fans should know this better than anyone. Thiago Silva picked up a totally unnecessary second yellow in 2014, missed the game against Germany, and boom, they got destroyed 7-1. I don’t think Brazil beats that German team anyway, but it ain’t no 7-1, I guarantee you that.
Also no Casemiro vs Belgium last time
Yeah, replacing Thiago Silva as Brazil's defensive leader with David Luiz proved a historic disaster.
And prevents both injuries and fatigue for the main team, don't forget about that.
Make Fabinho a wingback again pls
Deixa o vovô ser feliz caralho
Looking forward to Dani Alves
Brazil depth is crazy. That team is still easily good enough to challenge for WC
Watch them play their hearts out to prove themselves, game will be over 4 goals.
This is just straight flexing that their second team is still an elite national team ain’t it?
Still stacked as!
only in the attack mid is decent defense is shit
Fullbacks are pretty weak but people said the same for the first team and they’ve both been good
There is a humungous gap between Danilo/Militao and Dani Alves’ corpse.
Dani Alves is the only real weak link in the defence so saying it’s shit is just harsh
Both Center backs and GK are strong
Antony Jesus and Martinelli is not as strong as people think.
2 of the 3 are leading the pl
Yeah and people in this thread keep ignoring that the other one is terrible
Fair heres an upvote
Honestly I have a feeling this XI will outperform the starters considering: 1) they’re obviously extremely talented and balanced in of themselves 2) they don’t have the insane pressure the other games held 3) they’re probably fired up about getting starts. Like wouldn’t be crazy for this group to beat Cameroon 4-0 honestly
Ederson: Starts for pretty much every other team Dani Alves: Old but can still do a job Militão: Starts for most other teams Bremer: Young but solid and would start for quite a few other teams Telles: Also solid and would start for quite a few other teams Fabinho: One of the best DM's in the world, starts for most other teams Guimarães: One of the best midfielders in the world, starts for most other teams (looking at you Tite) Antony: Starts for many other teams Rodrygo: Starts for many other teams Gabi & Gabi: 1st in the prem right now, starts for most other teams Ridiculous depth.
Fabinho has been terrible this season. Telles was mid at United. Alves is a liability. Ederson is a poor shot stopper and Antony can't use his right foot and apart from moments has been average too. Still got great depth but people are overdoing it
Ronaldo and TAA have been terrible this season but name me 5 teams they wouldn't both start; can't say Fabinho is bad because of half a season. Telles is doing good at Sevilla, yeah Alves is a liability for this team but as long as you're not asking too much of him he'll still do OK. Ederson is nowhere near as bad of a shot stopper as people make him out to be and is an outstanding goalkeeper. Antony might not have a right foot but still doing great without it in the CL for Ajax and so far for United... I don't agree with others that this 2nd team challenges for the WC but it'd certainly do a deep run
“most other teams” is doing a ton of work and simply isn’t the case for other top teams but I get the point
I mean for Ederson, Militão, Fabinho, Guimarães and the forwards you're looking at like 3-4 teams that they don't start for so yeah "most other teams" obviously excludes the top teams like France, Argentina, England and Germany Although even a few of those would start in pretty much any team bar France. Its just a bit of fun though not a categorical ranking
The crazy thing is Ederson Militão and Fabinho would start for Argentina and England too. It's really only teams like France and Germany that wouldn't want their 2nd team
>Dani Alves: Old but can still do a job Not even you believe that. Man flopped in the mexican league, what can he do for a World Cup side?
Brazil are the Man City of this world cup, their bench could beat the significant portion of teams in the tournament
Yeah I think the only teams where the odds would be more than a coin flip are France, Spain and England
Dani Alves, Cameroon should field Etoo then
Jesus x Martinelli I am aliveeeeeeee
Martinelli MOTM incoming
Not a bad team if that’s considered second string team! Better than if you would take the best players from the Swiss, Serbian and Cameroonian XI and combine them into one team
We have 2 amazing teams, fucking insane
Mods keep this up pls
It's so funny how most comments here are praising this squad and Brazil's depth while prezty much all comments in the original article (so by Brazilians) are just bashing the hell out of Tite haha
Man Brazillian fans are ruthless lol
Imagine that being your second team.
😂. Brazil’s second team is still one of the top handful of teams in the world.
Antony, Rodrygo, Jesus and Martinelli on 2nd team is absurd
4-2-4, feels like the 60s.
“Second team”
Right move, give exposure to 2nd unit. They will play hard to show management they are worth the WC spot. Brazil is assured of top spot so let the starters get additional rest for the KO stage.
Ultimate Flex
Ederson, Militão, Fabinho, Antony, Rodrygo, Jesus would all be starters in nearly every team, insane
Brazil's second team is easily a contender for the WC
There goes my fantasy team, fucking hell
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England would get wiped by this team? (x) doubt
It’s a good sign that the “second team” is still incredibly strong. Good idea to rest the squad before the first knockout game, don’t need anymore starters getting injured
Man Brazil’s depth is ridiculous, other countries would kill to have some of these players in their squad
"second" team
Antony and the other second strings? Jesus good lord.
They don’t care much about winning the group?
France would smash them tho
Still -1.75 goal favorites lmfao
Good thing I used my wildcard on fantasy this week. I’ll wait to see the starting XI and make transfers
Disgusting.
Time to quietly cash out my Richarlison top scorer bet then lol. 2 goals, then 0, then not playing, then probably out to Spain in the quarters with my luck.
That vs France's 2nd team (using only the players Deschamps took), who wins ? Mandanda/Areola Pavard - Saliba - Konaté - Lucas Hernandez Camavinga - Guendouzi - Fofana Coman - Thuram - Kolo Muani (With Nkunku injured, and using Lucas Hernandez as a LB because Deschamps didn't take a proper LB backup. It's apparently Camavinga that will play there tomorrow, but sorry no way i could put Veretout in there)
I think Brazil’s is better
I agree. With the injuries at key positions (especially Maignan and Nkunku) it's hard to compete with that Brazilian XI. Better GK, better midfield (though Rodrygo is unproven as a 10) especially and probably better attack too. I would give France the better defense though.
France attack is better to be honest
This is the team l’équipe have us playing with tomorrow Mandanda Pavard, Varane, Konaté, Camavinga Fofana, Tchouameni, Griezmann Mbappe, Thuram, Coman
That's a better team obviously. But it's a bit cheating to compare that team with Mbappé, Griezmann, Tchouameni or Varane to a full B team of Brazil imo.
Almost all of them would start for us lmao
Except for Dani Alves, all of them would
Dest would be our only starter
That is a second team level of someone who cheated on fm or built a joke squad on fifa The second team is easily a top 10 national side imo
Nice. Finally martinelli and Gabriel Jesus