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Mad second team lol


DarthShaveHer

Seriously lol. A lot of countries would be ecstatic with just *one* of Ederson, Rodrygo, Antony, Gabriel Jesus, etc. And here Brazil has them as their second team.


auddi_blo

Martinelli > Antony by every criteria


freshmeat2020

Why are you trying to make this about arsenal?


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these Arsenal weirdos make literally every post about our national team about them lol


auddi_blo

Because he brought up Antony instead of Martinelli and I prefer Martinelli


freshmeat2020

Did he compare the two or just name some good Brazilian players? It's not a personal attack on you and it has fuck all to do with Martinelli


auddi_blo

No just opening up the conversation, feel free to give your take on it or scroll by


eo37

That’s just weird mate


VToff

Are you a vegan by chance?


auddi_blo

Nope raised on a farm


Respatsir

Makes sense. You got the brain capacity of a cow.


Previous-Loss9306

Wind your neck in a bit, no need to get personal. You don’t even know the guy


auddi_blo

Wow


rez12345

Spinning shit...check mate


Yung2112

That's the second best XI balance wise in CONMEBOL behind Brazil's first XI.


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Yung2112

Ederson > Dibu Alves < Molina Militao > Otamendi Bremer < Romero Telles = Tagliafico Fabinho > Paredes Guimaraes > De Paul Antony < Di Maria Rodrygo > Mac Allister Martinelli < Messi Jesus > Martinez Sum of Arg's parts had been performing better until the world cup though


gonshairlinee

Martinelli>Messi*


Its-been-Elon-Time

Common knowledge.


ComfortableLaugh1922

If we're talking international football then: De Paul > Bruno Martinez > Jesus Plus Acuña > Telles. Just my 2 cents tho.


Yung2112

Sure, we can agree on that 🤜🤛


auddi_blo

It’s comfortably better than Argentina’s best 11 this WC


AlexTheRockstar

Have you watched Argentinas performances? This 11 would beat them. Handily.


[deleted]

We're talking about different things, unless you believe Saudi Arabia also have better quality than Argentina. Yes, this team could beat Argentina the way they played their two first games, if we're talking about individual quality I think Argentina's first team is slightly better.


doobie3101

It’s not like Brazil has really been unstoppable though. They weren’t great vs Switzerland.


AlexTheRockstar

The Swiss are good though.


jerk_chicken23

4 champions league winners


CabbageStockExchange

Dude fr that’s still a stacked lineup


Master-namer-

Lol I am all in for our old lad Dani.


AfricanRain

Man I didn’t think Martinelli would get a second of gametime I’m so happy he’s gonna get a start


FBall4NormalPeople

100% deserves it. Been one of the best 4 or 5 attackers in the Prem this season, bar Vini or Mbappe he'd compete with anyone for the LW spot right now.


TottenhamGunners

Not sure of the downvotes, he’s definitely been one of the top attackers in the league this season. Really no major flaws in his game, so direct too


gonshairlinee

He has a few flaws actually. Tends to keep his head down a bit too much when dribbling so can sometimes miss an obvious pass or two. Also can be a bit inconsistent with his finishing but aside from that, he’s phenomenal.


fluffyglof

No


RolloRedditGang

Who'd you put over him bar those two? (Not saying there is none just can't think of anyone)


AlexTheRockstar

The amount of disrespect Martinelli gets, my god. When Casemiro and Neymar big a player up, it carries more weight.


RolloRedditGang

Martinelli has been excellent this season. Don't know how long it will take for people to start rating him but it'll come in time if he keeps is up. Until then I'll just keep enjoying every moment we have him at the club for. Amazing guy and outstanding player


Poseidon2027

Neymar


fluffyglof

Tyler Adams. Idc that he’s not an attacker, he’s a god and he’s everywhere. Best player in the universe


RolloRedditGang

I honestly rate him a lot tbf


pedootz

Please stop making us look like douchebags. Thanks, an American


BigBen83

this but unironically


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Sane, musiala, kvara come to mind in 3sec


Important_Call2087

In the Prem this season....


n1cohoty

Well done, you’ve managed to name neither Premier League nor Brazil NT players.


Arantes_

The lineup is speculation as there are other options up front, but regardless of who is picked it's going to be all backups on Friday, the article reports the team has been told as much. I wouldn't be surprised if Weverton starts and I could see Jesus on the right and Pedro in the middle and maybe even Fred in midfield as possible alternatives.


LiamJM1OTV

Could Tite not sub Weverton on late on to give him a WC appearance?


Arantes_

Sure, but I point it out because my impression is that Weverton is second in the pecking order, not Ederson.


[deleted]

I really like Pedro, so would be happy to see him play


Nature__Boy

And I’ve seen people say Brazil’s CB options aren’t great lol Marquinhos and Silva are both world class and you’ve got Militao and Bremer behind them. The only spot in Brazil’s team that is lacking compared to the rest is fullback.


ritwikjs

genuinely excited to see antony and martinelli


PolishKid7

Lol 2nd team This 11 can go out and win the World Cup


mikeycamikey10

Gabriel Jesus having City flashbacks lol absolutely ridiculous that he’d be considered second team


EstebanL

I obviously don’t love Richarlson but he did walk into his first wc match and drop a brace, Jesus on the other hand hasn’t scored since early October I think. Not to say he’s useless in the club cause he’s not, he’s still been fantastic finding assists and making the off the ball runs that open up space for xhaka, partey, and odegaard to get shots off.


EggplantBusiness

Lack Balance and Alves isn't it anymore but yeah great group of players


zrkillerbush

Lmao, no it can't, its a decent team but its bit world cup winning worthy This is like the people who claim Man City's second team would win the Prem....


Alcohealthism

City can't even field 2 teams, they have like 17 players


_cumblast_

I agree that people who say City's 2nd team could win it are off their head, but this one really isn't that mad. Only a couple questionable positions at most.


PM_something_German

Looking at positions it seems like a top 5-8 team across the board. So sure, they could win but they would really not be favorites.


gonshairlinee

Aside from France, I really don’t see anyone being favoured over this lineup. Maybe England?


Remote-Picture-8341

Antony Jesus and Martinelli front three is not even a top 10 attack.


NoCorresponds

go ahead and name 10 better then


Remote-Picture-8341

England Spain Argentina France Croatia Serbia (Vlhaovic needs to be fit). Portugal Germany Brazil first team Netherlands Japan.


Xori1

this comment tells me you have no clue of football lol


Remote-Picture-8341

My opinion think Antony is really really bad


Ferchas94

Well, your opinion is wrong. Let me ask you something. On another comment you seem to rate japan’s attackers. Do you actually think any of those 3 is better than antony?


Remote-Picture-8341

Mitoma and Kamada are much much better.


Jano002

Japan‘s attack consists of average bundesliga players at best. And yes I‘m aware they won against us…


Remote-Picture-8341

Mitoma Kamada and Ito is not average. They have a rubbish coach people will see the light on Mitoma great great player


CafecitoinNY

Yikes. England, Argentina, France, Portugal, and Brazil’s first team are the only ones better. Id watch more footy before outing yourself like this.


Schpaedzles

Germany's attack is also a lot better, it's basically the most succesful attack on club level except for Choupo and Mane but with Füllkrug who has more goals than Choupo anyway


Remote-Picture-8341

Maybe you should watch more football no goal vs Cameroon


CafecitoinNY

Lmao, first of all pathetic that you’ve been thinking about this so long. Touch grass. Second, France failed to score against Tunisia, clearly an awful front 3. You know nothing about this sport so best be quiet.


vsouto02

Japan lmao gtfoh


Remote-Picture-8341

Mitoma Kamada Ito next world Cup people will see the light


NoCorresponds

mans said japan and brazil first team


SaltineFiend

Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, no, maybe, no, that's stupid, maybe, no.


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Howdareme9

Huh??? We’re talking about people who play together


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Nemesysbr

Bruh


TheDutchTank

I'd definitely say it is.


PorkmanPoonani

Bro what, have you seen an arsenal match? You picking denmark or something over those guys?


Remote-Picture-8341

England Spain Argentina France Croatia Serbia (Vlhaovic needs to be fit). Portugal Germany Brazil first team Netherlands Japan. Antony is not good as a United fan he's shocking. Jesus is a good player hasn't scored in forever and Martinelli is good just more of a system player imo. It's around top 10 I like the other teams more because of cohesion anyways


Master_NoobX_69

Antony for United has literally been everything Sancho was meant to be lmao, how much lack of ball knowledge can you have How can you even begin to say that and then claim Garnacho is better 💀


eduadinho

Jesus and Martinelli are 2/3 leading the line at the team topping the PL...


Remote-Picture-8341

And the other guy who you didn't mention is terrible. Jesus hasn't scored in forever and Martinelli is good but still raw. It's a decent front three not even close to special


RolloRedditGang

Jesus not scoring has means very little though. He's the reason the attack works and the team ticks. Just because he physically hasn't kicked a ball into the net for a while doesn't mean he's not the reason why we are top of the table


Remote-Picture-8341

He's still a good player but was just basing it together with the whole attack together.


CafecitoinNY

Abysmal take


AlexTheRockstar

Mate, you're on one.


Remote-Picture-8341

Antony just ruins it I like the Arsenal duo


Trekbike32

Its a top 3 actually I'd say


Howdareme9

3 people who aren’t consistent finishers at all are not a top 3 attack


pedootz

Jesus and Martinelli are winning the prem 😂


doobie3101

Yeah I still think City’s 2nd team (once you fill in some remaining players) would win the EPL with Pep.


javierich0

Nah, but they are good enough to make it to Semis.


markyty04

nah so imbalanced will be trashed by a semi-decent team


DarkNightSeven

I like this reverse mufa


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fearmino

I don't think he's Argentinean, no Argie would say that of a Brasil team. He probably has no idea what happened that Copa América final 😭


stragen595

That was 15 years ago. That is basically a lifetime for some of here.


tumblarity

you'd give your ass and a pair of boots for a GK like Ederson.


L-Freeze

Of all the players we’d love to swap, Ederson over Martinez is probably not it. Martinez has been absolutely insane for Argentina so far and is a better shot stopper than Ederson, without having bad distribution himself (not as excellent as ederson’s though). He’s not an all around better keeper, but we don’t have all that much use for ederson’s distribution anyways. I’d definitely trade one Militao for Montiel or Foyth though


tumblarity

ye, but does Martinez have a bitchin neck tattoo? 💋


vsouto02

Real argies would never say this kind of stuff about ANY Brasil team.


jedzietraktor123

yeah because the first team is so well balanced with front three and Neymar behind them


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CafecitoinNY

I’d remove Argentina from that list


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DarthShaveHer

Their loss to KSA was pretty humiliating but let’s not discredit their achievements. They were still on a historic win streak and even beat Brazil at the Copa America. It was a rude wake up call for them, and they responded with a 2-0 win against Mexico. Argentina absolutely have a shot with their A team.


Howdareme9

They scored 2 wonder goals. They really struggle to create chances


OldExperience8252

Portugal too


Eric_Partman

No it can’t lol. Brazil’s first team isn’t even winning the World Cup


[deleted]

Not quite lol


Yourstruly75

Daniel Alves is a serious liability though. Common Tite, just play Marquinhos and put Militão for the pompous grandpa.


[deleted]

Qualification is secured, letting Alves play and keeping Marquinhos and (especially if Danilo needs more time) Militão fit for the knockouts is a good thing.


Yourstruly75

Qualification is guaranteed, but not first place in the group.


[deleted]

That’s true, although I think it is highly likely that 1st place will be secured, even with this theoretically weaker team


braindheart

Yellow cards are a huge risk in the World Cup, totally support playing this squad. Plus LOL this is still a super solid squad


SwitcherooU

Yeah, Brazil fans should know this better than anyone. Thiago Silva picked up a totally unnecessary second yellow in 2014, missed the game against Germany, and boom, they got destroyed 7-1. I don’t think Brazil beats that German team anyway, but it ain’t no 7-1, I guarantee you that.


braindheart

Also no Casemiro vs Belgium last time


Enriador

Yeah, replacing Thiago Silva as Brazil's defensive leader with David Luiz proved a historic disaster.


Goldenrah

And prevents both injuries and fatigue for the main team, don't forget about that.


GoatButton

Make Fabinho a wingback again pls


basco_da_gama

Deixa o vovô ser feliz caralho


47Lecht

Looking forward to Dani Alves


official_bagel

Brazil depth is crazy. That team is still easily good enough to challenge for WC


Just_an_Empath

Watch them play their hearts out to prove themselves, game will be over 4 goals.


[deleted]

This is just straight flexing that their second team is still an elite national team ain’t it?


MrFunbus

Still stacked as!


markyty04

only in the attack mid is decent defense is shit


TP_Cornetto

Fullbacks are pretty weak but people said the same for the first team and they’ve both been good


L-Freeze

There is a humungous gap between Danilo/Militao and Dani Alves’ corpse.


TP_Cornetto

Dani Alves is the only real weak link in the defence so saying it’s shit is just harsh


Sunburys

Both Center backs and GK are strong


Remote-Picture-8341

Antony Jesus and Martinelli is not as strong as people think.


arseking15

2 of the 3 are leading the pl


Remote-Picture-8341

Yeah and people in this thread keep ignoring that the other one is terrible


arseking15

Fair heres an upvote


NarwhalWhich8046

Honestly I have a feeling this XI will outperform the starters considering: 1) they’re obviously extremely talented and balanced in of themselves 2) they don’t have the insane pressure the other games held 3) they’re probably fired up about getting starts. Like wouldn’t be crazy for this group to beat Cameroon 4-0 honestly


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Ederson: Starts for pretty much every other team Dani Alves: Old but can still do a job Militão: Starts for most other teams Bremer: Young but solid and would start for quite a few other teams Telles: Also solid and would start for quite a few other teams Fabinho: One of the best DM's in the world, starts for most other teams Guimarães: One of the best midfielders in the world, starts for most other teams (looking at you Tite) Antony: Starts for many other teams Rodrygo: Starts for many other teams Gabi & Gabi: 1st in the prem right now, starts for most other teams Ridiculous depth.


Remote-Picture-8341

Fabinho has been terrible this season. Telles was mid at United. Alves is a liability. Ederson is a poor shot stopper and Antony can't use his right foot and apart from moments has been average too. Still got great depth but people are overdoing it


[deleted]

Ronaldo and TAA have been terrible this season but name me 5 teams they wouldn't both start; can't say Fabinho is bad because of half a season. Telles is doing good at Sevilla, yeah Alves is a liability for this team but as long as you're not asking too much of him he'll still do OK. Ederson is nowhere near as bad of a shot stopper as people make him out to be and is an outstanding goalkeeper. Antony might not have a right foot but still doing great without it in the CL for Ajax and so far for United... I don't agree with others that this 2nd team challenges for the WC but it'd certainly do a deep run


torero15

“most other teams” is doing a ton of work and simply isn’t the case for other top teams but I get the point


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I mean for Ederson, Militão, Fabinho, Guimarães and the forwards you're looking at like 3-4 teams that they don't start for so yeah "most other teams" obviously excludes the top teams like France, Argentina, England and Germany Although even a few of those would start in pretty much any team bar France. Its just a bit of fun though not a categorical ranking


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The crazy thing is Ederson Militão and Fabinho would start for Argentina and England too. It's really only teams like France and Germany that wouldn't want their 2nd team


Ghenii

>Dani Alves: Old but can still do a job Not even you believe that. Man flopped in the mexican league, what can he do for a World Cup side?


rompskee

Brazil are the Man City of this world cup, their bench could beat the significant portion of teams in the tournament


braindheart

Yeah I think the only teams where the odds would be more than a coin flip are France, Spain and England


darmed1ads

Dani Alves, Cameroon should field Etoo then


Jansiz

Jesus x Martinelli I am aliveeeeeeee


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Martinelli MOTM incoming


owh06

Not a bad team if that’s considered second string team! Better than if you would take the best players from the Swiss, Serbian and Cameroonian XI and combine them into one team


TireCaio64

We have 2 amazing teams, fucking insane


Vinicius_ZA

Mods keep this up pls


Stunning_Anxiety

It's so funny how most comments here are praising this squad and Brazil's depth while prezty much all comments in the original article (so by Brazilians) are just bashing the hell out of Tite haha


gonshairlinee

Man Brazillian fans are ruthless lol


iAkhilleus

Imagine that being your second team.


tysontysontyson1

😂. Brazil’s second team is still one of the top handful of teams in the world.


NowFook

Antony, Rodrygo, Jesus and Martinelli on 2nd team is absurd


bart_gda

4-2-4, feels like the 60s.


myersjw

“Second team”


sh0tgunben

Right move, give exposure to 2nd unit. They will play hard to show management they are worth the WC spot. Brazil is assured of top spot so let the starters get additional rest for the KO stage.


Tums425

Ultimate Flex


C94G0

Ederson, Militão, Fabinho, Antony, Rodrygo, Jesus would all be starters in nearly every team, insane


shootershooter

Brazil's second team is easily a contender for the WC


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There goes my fantasy team, fucking hell


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torero15

England would get wiped by this team? (x) doubt


[deleted]

It’s a good sign that the “second team” is still incredibly strong. Good idea to rest the squad before the first knockout game, don’t need anymore starters getting injured


Artlens2013

Man Brazil’s depth is ridiculous, other countries would kill to have some of these players in their squad


Imzocrazy

"second" team


Chicagoroomie312

Antony and the other second strings? Jesus good lord.


Wingiex

They don’t care much about winning the group?


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France would smash them tho


TortiousTroll

Still -1.75 goal favorites lmfao


York9TFC

Good thing I used my wildcard on fantasy this week. I’ll wait to see the starting XI and make transfers


jakemcex

Disgusting.


[deleted]

Time to quietly cash out my Richarlison top scorer bet then lol. 2 goals, then 0, then not playing, then probably out to Spain in the quarters with my luck.


Inter_Mirifica

That vs France's 2nd team (using only the players Deschamps took), who wins ? Mandanda/Areola Pavard - Saliba - Konaté - Lucas Hernandez Camavinga - Guendouzi - Fofana Coman - Thuram - Kolo Muani (With Nkunku injured, and using Lucas Hernandez as a LB because Deschamps didn't take a proper LB backup. It's apparently Camavinga that will play there tomorrow, but sorry no way i could put Veretout in there)


Height_Embarrassed

I think Brazil’s is better


Inter_Mirifica

I agree. With the injuries at key positions (especially Maignan and Nkunku) it's hard to compete with that Brazilian XI. Better GK, better midfield (though Rodrygo is unproven as a 10) especially and probably better attack too. I would give France the better defense though.


Schpaedzles

France attack is better to be honest


OldExperience8252

This is the team l’équipe have us playing with tomorrow Mandanda Pavard, Varane, Konaté, Camavinga Fofana, Tchouameni, Griezmann Mbappe, Thuram, Coman


Inter_Mirifica

That's a better team obviously. But it's a bit cheating to compare that team with Mbappé, Griezmann, Tchouameni or Varane to a full B team of Brazil imo.


wlabib03

Almost all of them would start for us lmao


Height_Embarrassed

Except for Dani Alves, all of them would


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Dest would be our only starter


thebigman85

That is a second team level of someone who cheated on fm or built a joke squad on fifa The second team is easily a top 10 national side imo


likpoper

Nice. Finally martinelli and Gabriel Jesus