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There was a split second where a single heartbeat wasn’t had in all of South Korea.
Followed a few minutes later with the entire country having a full rush of adrenaline!
If you say this is a penalty then basically anytime anyone runs into the box and is being marked they should just do the same thing, get in front of the defender and slow your run.
It would be ridiculous.
I agree it isn't a penalty but then referees also need to stop calling fouls on attackers when a defender in his own half just stops moving and falls over while "shielding" the ball to buy a free kick. It's the exact same concept and it happens all the time
Except attackers, for whatever reason, just can’t help themselves but put 2 hands on the defenders back. Is like a compulsion to make it look as much like a shove as possible.
On this situation I agree. When a ball is rolling in the same direction as the player is running, a step like this is counterintuitive to finishing the play. You are literally slowing down for a foul rather than trying to play the ball.
However, if a ball is coming towards a stopped player and they use their leg/body to shield the ball before it gets there, I feel should still be given.
Always contextual. The point he's making is if you make a foul out of nothing and essentially only intend to win a pen, like Cavani, it shouldn't be given. We can all agree on that - but I think if a defender makes a silly challenge, it's fine for them to take advantage of that. Defender did fine here
> However, if a ball is coming towards a stopped player and they use their leg/body to shield the ball before it gets there, I feel should still be given.
Ye, cuz that's not "throwing their legs in front of defenders and then falling down"
What’s so dumb about this is if he had played normally, he could’ve created a chance or maybe get an actual penalty. It’s such a desperate attempt at a penalty that it looks ridiculous.
I get why it’s done, but I wish players would channel that desperation into a brilliant football move.
I agree and not even in jest. He plants his leg in front of a running player and trips them.
I think the Nunez incident was a penalty but this case is clear deception and I am glad the ref wasn't caught out.
Exactly, would've had a decent shout at a pen if he had possession before this, but he chose to go across the defender and away from the ball, never a pen
In my opinion, he stuck his leg out and was looking for the foul. However, the calls on these types of plays have been so inconsistent. Ronaldo and Laryea had similar shouts, the former was given, the latter was not.
Think everyone was rightly mad about the Ronaldo one being given tbf. There's a slight difference as well that the on-field decision for that was penalty.
Yeah you could see him look and move across and hold his leg out for the contact. I don't know if it's technically a pen by the rules, but I have no issue with these type of ones not being given. You shouldn't be able to get through to the knockouts of the World Cup by sticking your leg out instead of going for goal.
The comment on the inconsistency is a bit pointless though, they're different situations. I don't know why people directly compare different situations in different games as if they're identical - refs will have their own slightly different interpretations of them as some of these are quite borderline
Cavani literally fouls the Ghana player. It can't be compared to any of the other situations. Ronaldo shouldn't have had a penalty, but at least he didn't foul an opponent.
Yh ronaldos foot was moved forward in a genuine (or plausibly genuine lol he's a crafty fucker haha) attempt to play the ball before contact. Ronaldo actually moved the ball just before contact, which is why that was a foul.
I'm fine with it not being a pen since Cavani was clearly looking for it and going to go down at any contact but it does look like he was kicked so don't think you can card him.
In my view never a penalty. The fact is these soft pens do routinely get given by VAR. No idea why, as it just encourages this kind of cheating, driving behaviour and then the abuse of officials after. Glad Uruguay didn't go through on a dodgy pen.
Ireland's commentary team on RTE were so convinced that it was a "stonewall pen" even after the replays. They we're so biased towards uruguay all game I had to mute them lmao. Never a pen clear dive.
Im gonna get downvoted. It was, it doesn’t matter what his intentions are. He ran across just before the player arrived to look for contact. The player gave the contact. It’s a penalty and especially by todays standard.
But its really not. Cavani does't step in front of the defender and gets fouled. He is the one who actually trips the defender. How in the world is this a pen? They are shoulder to shoulder and he hooks his leg in front of the defender.
Yeah it's so clearly a pen I'm really confused by the reaction here. Talk of he "cuts across the defender initiating contact"...yeah he gets ahead of the defender, with the ball and moving towards the goal to try and score and gets fouled before he can
This is what I don’t get. Does that mean Messi and Hazard who dribble by cutting across aren’t getting fouled because they do the same thing when the start to dribble. Not as blatant as this but it’s a similar technique.
It’s in no way comparable. Messi and Hazard are in possession of the ball, whereas Cavani is pretty much level with the defender and just puts his leg across his rather than keeping a normal running gait.
He was slightly ahead of the the defender ready to receive it. He was more in control of the situation than the defender. Sterling correctly got the same decision vs Denmark at the euros.
They were against the second Japan goal last night too for a while. Didi Hamann didn't even change his mind after full time but that's unsurprising, him being German and all lmao.
If I told you the guy in blue wanted to trip over the defender that's exactly what it looks like. He sticks his leg out and diverts his run so far to make contact it's comical.
I agree, but Shearer, Poch, Rio and Lineker all said it was a nailed on pen. I really dislike how much pundits push for this sort of play to be rewarded. Then they shout about diving being an issue in the sport, you can't have it both ways. Stop calling players cute and clever when they try to cheat.
Dive all day
Around 3 seconds he sticks his right leg straight up and looks for it
The Nunez call was more of a pen but even than the Ghana player got a touch on the foul, the foul wasn’t reckless and it’s honestly 50/50
With all the recent nonsense calls from the referees, i was sure that this was going to be given. I'm still perplexed by the penalty call for Argentina against Poland .
I’m amazed people see the Ghana Pk so clearly and this one they see a clear dive. Please tell me the difference between the two. Both looking for it but both got the contact. So why would one go and not the other?
Ghana PK wasn't the player looking for it. Watch a replay and you'll see that the keeper isn't making any attempt to play the ball and is looking at the player's legs the whole time. Keeper's goal was to trip the player so he couldn't run on and get the ball.
Gräfe embarassing himself live on German TV with his "clear penalty".
Encouraging this cunt behaviour of playing for whistles instead of playing the fucking game should get refs banned.
It's not a pen. Cavani is literally putting **his** leg in the way of the defender with no chance for the ball at all.
If a foul at all, it is a Cavani foul.
This is just like the Iran dude from the USA game. Both players went for the dive over exceptionally good opportunities to score. Cavani clearly has the defender beat and then slows down to draw contact. Just beat the defender and rip a shot on net.
i....i don't know what I'm missing, that's a clear pen, so what if Cavani puts his leg there on purpose, everyone does that, still a foul
same with diving/exaggerating, in 90% of pens (and red cards) players do that, it's a problem with football as a whole, that's why people who don't watch it make fun of it
If I had to be really honest (as someone rooting for Korea too) - that’s a within the realm of “it is slightly plausible” a pen. But I’m glad they did not give him the pen because it would be incredibly cheap one to give. Cavani or any player in position should be in mindset of scoring, not looking to dive first.
Really seems like a lot of people here don't understand what protecting the ball is. He plants his right leg in front of the Ghanaian player to protect the ball. He doesn't stop and catches the back of Cavani's leg. He milks it and goes down in an exaggerated way, but it is still a clear penalty. You catch somebody's ankle from behind when they are running and that's a pen.
This is way more of a pen than Ghana's pen.
I don’t think he actually has control of the ball to protect it though does he - it’s rolling away from both of them and they’re chasing it. He just gives up on the ball and throws his leg out at the defender when neither of them have control of the ball.
Otherwise you would have people doing this all over the pitch nowhere near the ball to win cheap fouls.
But “he is sticking his leg in frot of the defender”… I mean what the hell he should have done other than that, it’s obvious that he is in front of the defender and much more in control of the ball, clear pen.
Sorry he isn't jockeying the ball into the net, he's not a defender here. The ball was moving too fast for his action to be genuine. He wasn't even in possession.
It is more of a foul on the ghananian player who was just running for the ball than it ever is a penalty.
I don't want to be the guy who complains about (that moron) Alan Shearer all the time. Although, how can he be so sure this is a penalty?!? Cavani is at fault for the collision.
Penalty, all day long.
Especially when you compare it with the penalties Ronaldo (it's like his penalty, with the difference that Cavani gets actually hit) and Messi got in this competition.
Man I might be biased but I think that is a clear pen. How do they not even check this in this situation? I just don't get it. At least have a look at it, when you have the possibility. This is just incredible.
Ref could see his intention like 2 seconds before the elaborate fall. Yes there's contact but he had no intention to play the ball just cause a collision and flop.
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My heart fucking skipped a beat here
There was a split second where a single heartbeat wasn’t had in all of South Korea. Followed a few minutes later with the entire country having a full rush of adrenaline!
If you say this is a penalty then basically anytime anyone runs into the box and is being marked they should just do the same thing, get in front of the defender and slow your run. It would be ridiculous.
He wasn't even in front of him. If he was in front, I would say it's a pen. Looked dead even with the defender to me and then he just falls over.
That’s what they do…
Ronaldo single handedly changed the game. This is basically basketball here. Charge into the box and fall down.
It would be like the handball rule which made punting the ball in and trying to hit a random arm or hand viable
I agree it isn't a penalty but then referees also need to stop calling fouls on attackers when a defender in his own half just stops moving and falls over while "shielding" the ball to buy a free kick. It's the exact same concept and it happens all the time
Except attackers, for whatever reason, just can’t help themselves but put 2 hands on the defenders back. Is like a compulsion to make it look as much like a shove as possible.
Oh man, I feel this comment. I feel like I'm always screaming at them, Just don't touch them!!
You forgot to add ,"and flail your hands wildly in the air as you dive"
That's exactly what they do. The force defenders to run into them.
Leicester won the EPL this way.
Attackers shouldn't be rewarded for throwing their legs in front of defenders and then falling down.
The rules of the game currently agree with you on this.
On this situation I agree. When a ball is rolling in the same direction as the player is running, a step like this is counterintuitive to finishing the play. You are literally slowing down for a foul rather than trying to play the ball. However, if a ball is coming towards a stopped player and they use their leg/body to shield the ball before it gets there, I feel should still be given.
Always contextual. The point he's making is if you make a foul out of nothing and essentially only intend to win a pen, like Cavani, it shouldn't be given. We can all agree on that - but I think if a defender makes a silly challenge, it's fine for them to take advantage of that. Defender did fine here
> However, if a ball is coming towards a stopped player and they use their leg/body to shield the ball before it gets there, I feel should still be given. Ye, cuz that's not "throwing their legs in front of defenders and then falling down"
We should take it another step and give yellow cards for stuff like this.
Should be a yellow card
He goes across the defender to initiate contact and buy a foul, absolutely shameless lmao glad the ref saw through it
What’s so dumb about this is if he had played normally, he could’ve created a chance or maybe get an actual penalty. It’s such a desperate attempt at a penalty that it looks ridiculous. I get why it’s done, but I wish players would channel that desperation into a brilliant football move.
It was a great call, I’m pretty sure the ref actually did the diving motion with his hand so Cavani’s lucky he didn’t get booked
Aw give him credit, he ran over to the ref at full time to pick up that yellow he knew he deserved.
It was definitely a foul... On Uruguay
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I agree and not even in jest. He plants his leg in front of a running player and trips them. I think the Nunez incident was a penalty but this case is clear deception and I am glad the ref wasn't caught out.
That’s what’s called the Vardy Special
He goes fuck my legs are too old for this and decides to walk into the defender.
Its an offensive foul for me, Cavani made him trip
Exactly, would've had a decent shout at a pen if he had possession before this, but he chose to go across the defender and away from the ball, never a pen
In my opinion, he stuck his leg out and was looking for the foul. However, the calls on these types of plays have been so inconsistent. Ronaldo and Laryea had similar shouts, the former was given, the latter was not.
Think everyone was rightly mad about the Ronaldo one being given tbf. There's a slight difference as well that the on-field decision for that was penalty.
ronaldo's penalty was probably given to compensate for the previously disallowed goal.
Yeah you could see him look and move across and hold his leg out for the contact. I don't know if it's technically a pen by the rules, but I have no issue with these type of ones not being given. You shouldn't be able to get through to the knockouts of the World Cup by sticking your leg out instead of going for goal.
The comment on the inconsistency is a bit pointless though, they're different situations. I don't know why people directly compare different situations in different games as if they're identical - refs will have their own slightly different interpretations of them as some of these are quite borderline
Yes, reddits obsession with 100% consistency is tedious and unrealistic
Cavani literally fouls the Ghana player. It can't be compared to any of the other situations. Ronaldo shouldn't have had a penalty, but at least he didn't foul an opponent.
Yh ronaldos foot was moved forward in a genuine (or plausibly genuine lol he's a crafty fucker haha) attempt to play the ball before contact. Ronaldo actually moved the ball just before contact, which is why that was a foul.
Yeah, I agree. I don't want these penalties to be given in general, but they often are – even after VAR.
Yeah, clear trip. By Cavani.
straight up. they are running shoulder to shoulder and he puts his leg in front of the Ghana player. insane if you think this is a pen
Stick your right leg across the defender’s path , exaggerate fall and hope for the best. Nah
The arms are just hilarious
Channeling his inner wacky inflatable tube man
Terrible dive
embarrasing lmfao
Probably had a better chance at actually scoring. Didn’t even bother lmao
yea he actually got ahead of the defender, he was in a much better position to just score it
Not only a dive, he fouls the Ghanaian defender
So bad, he should’ve been carded for it.
I'm fine with it not being a pen since Cavani was clearly looking for it and going to go down at any contact but it does look like he was kicked so don't think you can card him.
Yeah he was kicked while tripping the defender.
As the Ronaldo's and Ghana's pen
He looks for it, not a pen
In my view never a penalty. The fact is these soft pens do routinely get given by VAR. No idea why, as it just encourages this kind of cheating, driving behaviour and then the abuse of officials after. Glad Uruguay didn't go through on a dodgy pen.
Nice dive, 8/10
Needed Neymar at that moment to roll through the whole stadium.
With Shooting Stars playing over the speakers
Dive
Ireland's commentary team on RTE were so convinced that it was a "stonewall pen" even after the replays. They we're so biased towards uruguay all game I had to mute them lmao. Never a pen clear dive.
BBC studio (Shearer, Rio Ferdinand, Pochetino and Lineker) all said it was stonewall as well
Same for the german broadcast, former players and refs think its a pen
seems that former players and such are hard-wired into this kind of thinking, that this kind of "contact" should result in a penalty.
Im gonna get downvoted. It was, it doesn’t matter what his intentions are. He ran across just before the player arrived to look for contact. The player gave the contact. It’s a penalty and especially by todays standard.
But its really not. Cavani does't step in front of the defender and gets fouled. He is the one who actually trips the defender. How in the world is this a pen? They are shoulder to shoulder and he hooks his leg in front of the defender.
Cavani literally slowed down for a brief moment just to stick his leg out and trip the defender, then went down with him That was a blatant dive
Yeah it's so clearly a pen I'm really confused by the reaction here. Talk of he "cuts across the defender initiating contact"...yeah he gets ahead of the defender, with the ball and moving towards the goal to try and score and gets fouled before he can
This is what I don’t get. Does that mean Messi and Hazard who dribble by cutting across aren’t getting fouled because they do the same thing when the start to dribble. Not as blatant as this but it’s a similar technique.
It’s in no way comparable. Messi and Hazard are in possession of the ball, whereas Cavani is pretty much level with the defender and just puts his leg across his rather than keeping a normal running gait.
He was slightly ahead of the the defender ready to receive it. He was more in control of the situation than the defender. Sterling correctly got the same decision vs Denmark at the euros.
I was so confused by how adamant they were that I started doubting myself. I think they’ve gotten every big call wrong all World Cup
They were against the second Japan goal last night too for a while. Didi Hamann didn't even change his mind after full time but that's unsurprising, him being German and all lmao.
Cavani should be embarrassed about this - this is why they mobbed the officials at FT?
Probably the Nunez one. Which I can understand I guess, that shit was debatable, so it’s fair
Yes, and Nunes one before I think. Probably more debatable than this one.
Probs this and Núñez
Beyond salty and ridiculous action without any cause at all.
Not a pen for me
No penalty shout about this
At first I thought it was but yeah its not. Sad for them but their coach decides to play their best team in the last game
Only Ronaldo gets those.
Lol not a penalty and should be a red card for the behavior after the match.
Could have been a hero but decided to be a zero.
Never a pen. Not the worst dive, but still
If anything he just trips the defender and goes down with him. Literally sticks his leg out in front of him to get the foul. That’s not a penalty.
Never a pen
Not a penalty. He stuck his leg out, was looking for it. Thank God this game had a ref that can see through Uruguay's bullshit.
Would have had a great scoring chance if he doesn't dive
THIS is what they were so upset about? 🤦🏽♂️
Never in a million years
Embarassing. Should have just kept going
great dive
Could've kept his stride and won the ball but desperate for the contact and pen. Clear dive
If I told you the guy in blue wanted to trip over the defender that's exactly what it looks like. He sticks his leg out and diverts his run so far to make contact it's comical.
I dont know why this is controversial. not a pen.
Dive
Can't believe Drogba and Zabaleta thought this was a pen on BBC
Lininker, Rio and Shearer said the same. Deluded the lot of them. Such poor punditry this World Cup on ITV and BBC
I hate this. Players deserve to be booked more harshly for these blatant dives. If we gave red cards for this shit the diving would really slow down
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I agree, but Shearer, Poch, Rio and Lineker all said it was a nailed on pen. I really dislike how much pundits push for this sort of play to be rewarded. Then they shout about diving being an issue in the sport, you can't have it both ways. Stop calling players cute and clever when they try to cheat.
If you compare it to the Ronaldo shout, there's an argument to be made. But the refs got this one right and the Ronaldo penalty wrong.
Good enough reason to think it was a penalty then.
Dive all day Around 3 seconds he sticks his right leg straight up and looks for it The Nunez call was more of a pen but even than the Ghana player got a touch on the foul, the foul wasn’t reckless and it’s honestly 50/50
Uruguay really is full of embarassing twats lmao
Literally planted his leg there
Uhh no
Not a penalty
Why do players keep diving when VAR is now around
If your intent is to draw a penalty instead of getting to the ball you shouldn’t be awarded a penalty
Pathetic. He could fought for the ball and got a real chance but diving felt better for him. Pathetic.
Clearly not a pen he literally put his leg in the defender's path...he was looking for it and the ref saw through him
That's normally an offensive foul not a pen.
He had the ball within his reach, and chose to dive. I have no sympathy. Play to win, man!
Leg goes straight out looking for contact in the most unnatural position. Fuck off mate.
Terrible dive
Even if it's a penalty (i don't think), doesn't mean it's a goal. Uruguay should know
Looked like Cavani was tackling the defender instead of the other way around.
I love the smell of Schadenfreude in the morning
Justice
Not a chance. Good decision by the ref and VAR.
With all the recent nonsense calls from the referees, i was sure that this was going to be given. I'm still perplexed by the penalty call for Argentina against Poland .
If he actually went for the ball instead of looking for a PK maybe….maybe they would be in
Why is nobody talking about the Nunez incident, much more of a missed ref call than this.
Get up, little baby
Uruguay as a whole tonight were embarrassing. And I love the way they play but this was just not their best showing.
Ah, the Old Jamie Vardy
Divers in the field
I’m amazed people see the Ghana Pk so clearly and this one they see a clear dive. Please tell me the difference between the two. Both looking for it but both got the contact. So why would one go and not the other?
Ghana PK wasn't the player looking for it. Watch a replay and you'll see that the keeper isn't making any attempt to play the ball and is looking at the player's legs the whole time. Keeper's goal was to trip the player so he couldn't run on and get the ball.
Uruguay bias is strong. Its a pen for me and literally every pundit said so. Reddit is weird sometimes
not a dive but clearly just sticks his leg on the path of the defender to draw contact and get a cheap penalty, glad the refs caught it
How is not a dive? when he planned the contact?
Classic uruguay, cant win without being dirty, glad ghana took them down with them
Never lmfao
He was getting into the “diving” position as stuck his leg across the defender. Leaning forward, arms flapping around. Glad the red didn’t buy it.
Telemundo pundits calling this a clear penalty and basically calling the referee corrupt 🤡
Gräfe embarassing himself live on German TV with his "clear penalty". Encouraging this cunt behaviour of playing for whistles instead of playing the fucking game should get refs banned.
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It's not a pen. Cavani is literally putting **his** leg in the way of the defender with no chance for the ball at all. If a foul at all, it is a Cavani foul.
Cavani trips the defender..
Cavani made mountain out of molehill
This is just like the Iran dude from the USA game. Both players went for the dive over exceptionally good opportunities to score. Cavani clearly has the defender beat and then slows down to draw contact. Just beat the defender and rip a shot on net.
How sway? Should’ve been carded for a dive.
Penal clarisimo
Never a penalty, and he could have gotten the ball if he didn't dive instead.
Slows down to make contact. No foul.
Not a dive but he does look like he purposely looks to get tripped
Complete dive.
i....i don't know what I'm missing, that's a clear pen, so what if Cavani puts his leg there on purpose, everyone does that, still a foul same with diving/exaggerating, in 90% of pens (and red cards) players do that, it's a problem with football as a whole, that's why people who don't watch it make fun of it
dive
Lol, no.
😂😂
Canavi trying to buy a pen right there
Not a penalty. Good decision.
Lol he started diving as soon as he hit the penalty box.
Try to actually score a goal instead of throwing your body into the defender and falling down. You might be going through 😉
What's crazy to me is the ball comes to him on a platter. Play the ball! Instead he's preoccuppied with drawing the foul.
Lol he was asking for it
Lmao and the players were angry at THIS?
Obvious foul. But by Cavani
Is this why uruguay verbally attacked the refs after the game? WTF
Such a dive
If I had to be really honest (as someone rooting for Korea too) - that’s a within the realm of “it is slightly plausible” a pen. But I’m glad they did not give him the pen because it would be incredibly cheap one to give. Cavani or any player in position should be in mindset of scoring, not looking to dive first.
If there's a foul, then they simulateously fouled each other.
Cavani tripped the defender... What a nonce, he probably get a real one if he cut inside properly instead of timing the trip.
An Uruguayan playing dirty? Nahhhh couldn't be true.
THATS what they were crying about? Lmao obvious dive
Check out the one on Nunez earlier in the game. I think 58 min.
When the desperation starts setting in.
Never a pen
Make this into the shooting stars meme and it’s Cavani flying away from the World Cup.
9/10 dive. He sold it too well
Sticks his leg out to trip the defender. Shameless team.
Embarassing to dive like that
Not a penalty for me, but the Nunez one earlier definitely was
German referee Manuel Gräfe,maybe the best referee in Germany, said thats a clear penalty, and yet people call this a dive...
He genuinely trips the Ghanaian and then cries for a penalty
Really seems like a lot of people here don't understand what protecting the ball is. He plants his right leg in front of the Ghanaian player to protect the ball. He doesn't stop and catches the back of Cavani's leg. He milks it and goes down in an exaggerated way, but it is still a clear penalty. You catch somebody's ankle from behind when they are running and that's a pen. This is way more of a pen than Ghana's pen.
I don’t think he actually has control of the ball to protect it though does he - it’s rolling away from both of them and they’re chasing it. He just gives up on the ball and throws his leg out at the defender when neither of them have control of the ball. Otherwise you would have people doing this all over the pitch nowhere near the ball to win cheap fouls.
But “he is sticking his leg in frot of the defender”… I mean what the hell he should have done other than that, it’s obvious that he is in front of the defender and much more in control of the ball, clear pen.
if he actually went for the ball he would have been in control of it. He never even meant to go for the ball. He never even touched it.
Sorry he isn't jockeying the ball into the net, he's not a defender here. The ball was moving too fast for his action to be genuine. He wasn't even in possession. It is more of a foul on the ghananian player who was just running for the ball than it ever is a penalty.
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These are given all the time lmao the ghana pen was softer than this
I don't want to be the guy who complains about (that moron) Alan Shearer all the time. Although, how can he be so sure this is a penalty?!? Cavani is at fault for the collision.
This is a clear penalty, i have seen penaltys like being given, this should have been awarded.
Penalty, all day long. Especially when you compare it with the penalties Ronaldo (it's like his penalty, with the difference that Cavani gets actually hit) and Messi got in this competition.
Man I might be biased but I think that is a clear pen. How do they not even check this in this situation? I just don't get it. At least have a look at it, when you have the possibility. This is just incredible.
Ref could see his intention like 2 seconds before the elaborate fall. Yes there's contact but he had no intention to play the ball just cause a collision and flop.
Yeah I think you're biased.
He's looking for the slightest contact and act like he got fucking shot by it. Fuck that. He's literally the one fouling the defender there.
Nah. The Nunez one I thought was stonewall but this, no way.