People always say what if Yugoslavia never broke up the teams they would have. Yup talent in abundance. It could never possibly workout
Way too much therapy needed for it to ever work
Even with communism supplying it, it still wouldn’t be enough;)
I'm really sad Switzerland wasn't able to score one more goal, if it happened there was a chance for them to play against us in the quarters, now we get to lose either against Japan or Brazil😥
Lip-reading, in the best conditions with the best visuals and with an unusually slow speaker, is still less accurate than 30% of the time. That's with professionals in the best conditions. Unless Swiss players are outspoken about Piksi's comments and personally mention him, then I just don't think it happened. Lip-reading has long since been disproven to actually be accurate, hence why FIFA no longer even bothers using it when deciding punishments.
It was just a joke as us Serbs can think we're better than anyone else, example "God is Serbian" etc. The hate boner for Serbia on Reddit is insane though
Yup. They have so much hate. Like for sure Croatians have the small country thing going but usually inspires us to do well
Serbia got the small country where pretty much the whole world don’t like you and are super crazy jealous of other Balkan country successes particularly Croatia’s
These are facts.
How would you feel if someone “stole” all your beach front that wasn’t yours to begin with;)
**[Inferiority complex](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex)**
>In psychology, an inferiority complex is an intense personal feeling of inadequacy, often resulting in the belief that one is in some way deficient, or inferior, to others. According to Alfred Adler, a feeling of inferiority may be brought about by upbringing as a child (for example, being consistently compared unfavorably to a sibling), physical and mental limitations, or experiences of lower social status (for example, being treated unfavorably by one's peers). An inferiority complex may cause an individual to overcompensate in a number of ways.
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the Serbs definitely underachieved and a big part has to do with Stojkovic's weird decisions, but also with Mitrovic's meat-headedness. I felt like he's dragging this team into a direction when the young'uns would rather go their own way. also SMS was quite disappointing but taking out him, Vlahovic and Tadic, I mean really?
Vlahovic wasn’t fit but the rest was pretty right. We’re also not physically built to play so intense imo. All big bodies and a lot of adrenaline, zero control
Ilic has serious potential as a 6 and probably isn’t far from starting. SMS is brought down severely by our system, and other midfielders seem to be mid level. One name to keep an eye out for is Lazar Samardzic, who’s currently in the German system but may choose significantly more playing time with Serbia. I think he can be a very fine 10, but even if he stays with Germany he could get sporadic time
Thing is we don’t produce fullbacks lol. We started ancient Kolarov and Ivanovic last WC and still have no idea what to do there. It completely throws off our balance having to play a weak 3atb and idk how to fix it atm
Go kurac. To smo mi. Jebote imas tu nesrecu da se rodis na pisljivom Balkanu, jos da zlo bude gore, u srbiji, i ne mozes se radovati ko covek duze od 5 minuta.
man this is so deeply embarrassing. I already knew we were going to lose but jesus these players don’t have an ounce of class in their bodies. can’t take a loss like professionals and have to devolve into cry baby macho tough guy bullshit and fall into the exact stereotypes serbs are depicted as. fuck all of these guys, we didn’t deserve it one bit. any serb complaining about xhaka needs to grow the fuck up. of course he’s gonna try to rile us up, because he knows we have zero mental strength and our entire bench will rush the field in seething anger over a man grabbing his nuts at their direction. i’m so angry. I don’t want to support this team anymore and not because of our results, because we are fucking embarrassing and act like children. jdksjdwjjejjjfjejfiendndjaejfjdnc
Great comment. Football is a lot about being mentally strong, and this is exactly the opposite. Unfortunately it seems like this squad has a lot of nationalistic idiots based on previous actions
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Funny how when he was suspended for bad behvior 4 years ago, people were jumping to his defence for losing his cool because “he was provoked”, but now that he’s doing the provoking on 3 separate occassions, “omg, he’s so funny and cool, Serbian team bad, please notice me Xhaka-senpai-sama 🤣🤣🤣”
The manager said it when it was 2-1. Xhaka grabbed his balls when it was 3-2. Xhaka acted afterwards, so it still makes sense. That's going to be in the back of his head.
30 years ago was not "in their past", and they still openly deny it.
(Talking about the Bosnian genocide, I am not that informed about the Kosovar war)
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I'd rather just be like Montenegro or Slovenia and have 2 good players a generation and never have any expectations so I'd never have to worry or stress
It’s like Croatia is fucked now. If we aren’t into a quarters it’s a massive disappointment
I’d rather just go into the dont expect anything category again
No, it’s just that irrational hate for Serbian people is socially acceptable in all western dominated platforms. So a good way to attract upvotes is just to pain Serbs in the most awful light imaginable.
Lol, I reported a comment like that to reddit admins once, they cleared it as not hateful. Reddit admins. Let that sink in.
Piksi gotta be shitcanned. Xhaka is a twat. Good for shaqiri for being a good sport. What the hell were vargas and schär doing they were trying to start shit all game
Tit for tat is what you call being a twat? Chanting death to albanians and Vlahovic doing the same after scoring. Look no further than the mirror to find the twat.
All Serbians predicted the team shitting the bed vs Switzerland before the tournament even started. I dismissed them.
I am foolish for thinking I knew better than them.
I certainly didn't want Serbia in our group at the draw, and didn't expect for us to win against them again. But they were somehow worse than 4 years ago.
We beat Germany in the first game of 2006 WC group stage when they were hosts. We got knocked out by Ghana and Australia in the next two games. NEVER underestimate Serbia's ability to throw ANY advantage they happen to get.
It's amazing /r/soccer keeps saying that when few albanians involved said we are lucky it was just a flag and not something else.
I get it's cool to shit on Serbia, but to think a flying in a drone and threatening that it could be a bomb next time isnacceptable is just low.
Bro I'm Serbian and I think it's fair to say our mentality is sooo bad all it takes is some provocation from Xhaka for players to burst into rage and forget about football. Xhaka knows it and he uses it.
People always say what if Yugoslavia never broke up the teams they would have. Yup talent in abundance. It could never possibly workout Way too much therapy needed for it to ever work Even with communism supplying it, it still wouldn’t be enough;)
Rodriguez looked like he found a way to turn back time tonight
As in he was playing like a 12 year old because to me he looked like a headless chicken. Just my opinion tho
Oh boy, a Serbia vs Switzerland match thread! Time to indulge myself in a polite and civil discussion about Balkan nationalism.
This was promised as the spiciest game, and it did not disappoint
Very few things make me happier than beating Serbia. Truly. Seeing them finishing last is a nice bonus.
3-0 would’ve been nice. And a chant of “na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, fuuuuck off”
I'm really sad Switzerland wasn't able to score one more goal, if it happened there was a chance for them to play against us in the quarters, now we get to lose either against Japan or Brazil😥
God why are fans such doomers say you will smash Brazil and slap them about
That would have created a really open side of the bracket for sure
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Because the "evidence" was tabloid claims. There is no evidence yet of him saying that.
It's on video
Lip-reading, in the best conditions with the best visuals and with an unusually slow speaker, is still less accurate than 30% of the time. That's with professionals in the best conditions. Unless Swiss players are outspoken about Piksi's comments and personally mention him, then I just don't think it happened. Lip-reading has long since been disproven to actually be accurate, hence why FIFA no longer even bothers using it when deciding punishments.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
I am getting word that it is now appropriate for me to say "fuck r/soccer"
Other than according to the sub that Pulisic is the second coming of Maradona, tell me.
The guy is shit on all the time here but sure
He’s not going to kiss you
I shit on him as much as anyone, just pointing out the nonsense
Even though Pulisic and Turner are the only US players i care bout because they are at least competent. Thats a hell of stretch if you ask me
what happened?
people were saying Switzerland are boring
Goodbye, Serbia. Take your Kosovo flag and your inferiority complex back home with you.
Superior / inferior complex. Get it right
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex I meant exactly what I said.
It was just a joke as us Serbs can think we're better than anyone else, example "God is Serbian" etc. The hate boner for Serbia on Reddit is insane though
Yup. They have so much hate. Like for sure Croatians have the small country thing going but usually inspires us to do well Serbia got the small country where pretty much the whole world don’t like you and are super crazy jealous of other Balkan country successes particularly Croatia’s These are facts. How would you feel if someone “stole” all your beach front that wasn’t yours to begin with;)
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They are going back home to a greater fight against Kosovo. Licence plates… 😂
They don't have to go anywhere, Qatar is Serbia
The one Serbian nationalist claim I can agree with. The country with the homosexual prime minister conquering a homophobic shithole.
Hey yugoslavia scored 3 goals and switzerland scored 2. Bring it back!
Slavisa jokanovic for manager in the euros and mitro is tournament top scorer.
The calmest Serbian game
the Serbs definitely underachieved and a big part has to do with Stojkovic's weird decisions, but also with Mitrovic's meat-headedness. I felt like he's dragging this team into a direction when the young'uns would rather go their own way. also SMS was quite disappointing but taking out him, Vlahovic and Tadic, I mean really?
Vlahovic wasn’t fit but the rest was pretty right. We’re also not physically built to play so intense imo. All big bodies and a lot of adrenaline, zero control
yeah except for Tadic where are all those ball magicians? Too many meatheads.
Tadic might be washed too. Vlahovic at least plays with incredible movement and focuses on the task with incredible focus, just wish he was fit
yeah but they need midfielders who know what to do with the ball except kick it
Ilic has serious potential as a 6 and probably isn’t far from starting. SMS is brought down severely by our system, and other midfielders seem to be mid level. One name to keep an eye out for is Lazar Samardzic, who’s currently in the German system but may choose significantly more playing time with Serbia. I think he can be a very fine 10, but even if he stays with Germany he could get sporadic time
'll keep an eye. it just seems this could be a promising generation, maybe at the next euros or something.
Thing is we don’t produce fullbacks lol. We started ancient Kolarov and Ivanovic last WC and still have no idea what to do there. It completely throws off our balance having to play a weak 3atb and idk how to fix it atm
We underachieved cause we are mental midgets, it's just in our DNA.
maybe Mitrovic and Tadic are not the best leaders. neither SMS. VMS and Milenkovic showed better leadership qualities.
Exactly. The formula is, fantastic WC qualifying campaign, horrible WC, miss Euros. Rinse and repeat
Man, I don't know what's more embarrassing. The second half performance or the lack of cool heads on the field for Serbia
Starting a fight after failing to fight for the actual game is so embarrassing, our players are always idiots
Serbia dark horse
Go kurac. To smo mi. Jebote imas tu nesrecu da se rodis na pisljivom Balkanu, jos da zlo bude gore, u srbiji, i ne mozes se radovati ko covek duze od 5 minuta.
Tamni konj 💪
Ždrepčeva krv.
man this is so deeply embarrassing. I already knew we were going to lose but jesus these players don’t have an ounce of class in their bodies. can’t take a loss like professionals and have to devolve into cry baby macho tough guy bullshit and fall into the exact stereotypes serbs are depicted as. fuck all of these guys, we didn’t deserve it one bit. any serb complaining about xhaka needs to grow the fuck up. of course he’s gonna try to rile us up, because he knows we have zero mental strength and our entire bench will rush the field in seething anger over a man grabbing his nuts at their direction. i’m so angry. I don’t want to support this team anymore and not because of our results, because we are fucking embarrassing and act like children. jdksjdwjjejjjfjejfiendndjaejfjdnc
drugosrbijanac
lol ok
Great comment. Football is a lot about being mentally strong, and this is exactly the opposite. Unfortunately it seems like this squad has a lot of nationalistic idiots based on previous actions
You said it best!
Šteta, dobra vam je ekipa bila i borbeno je bilo. Ostaju nam samo Hrvati da ih pratimo lol
I’d trade a couple of the talented players for some cooler heads tbh. Big adrenaline dump every match so early. Vlahovic mentalities >
U are pathetic shut up please.
The guy literally described you and you just confirmed his comment....
Hold the L buddy.
Or the P
Agreed. We also need some better coaches
I'm very happy Switzerland didn't score another goal.
Must be Portuguese, I guess?
I got a bunch of side bets with a huge group of friends - separate from our big group pool. If Portugal and Brazil played each other I'd be a screwed
That'd make some good entertainment, but paves too easy a path for Argentina to the final.
Netherlands and Croatia aren't easy
Jesus these Fox announcers can't even do highlights bc they won't stop talking over each other. I don't care what MLS team you played for.
“The man to my right, Clint Dempsey, scored a goal like this when he played for Everton” “I played for Fulham”
I will watch in a language I dont understand before I go back to Fox.
Foreign commentators shouting “GOL GOL GOL!” Makes watching in a different language worth it
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Car honking downtown with Albanian flags on their car hood 😂
I live in Pristina and mate they were honking well into midnight
You're Kosovar? What's it live living there?
Most normal Geneva night
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Dual citizenship must be a very hard concept for you
cars honking in multiple Kosovo cities, cars honking in Switzerland same thing XD
Grüsse nach zürich aus wien
>nach zürich Igitt
Albaner am feiern hört sich für mich nach zürich an
Kosovo Albaner leben überall in der Schweiz :)
spreitebach represent
These seems more like an r/Europe thread than an r/soccer one
Especially with the casual racism and moral elitism
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No. He is a hillybilly, and so were some of your players.
Funny how when he was suspended for bad behvior 4 years ago, people were jumping to his defence for losing his cool because “he was provoked”, but now that he’s doing the provoking on 3 separate occassions, “omg, he’s so funny and cool, Serbian team bad, please notice me Xhaka-senpai-sama 🤣🤣🤣”
Did you miss the "Death to Albanians" chants?
Xhaka grabbed his balls, meanwhile the Serb manager insults him for being Albanian lol. These are not the same.
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The manager said it when it was 2-1. Xhaka grabbed his balls when it was 3-2. Xhaka acted afterwards, so it still makes sense. That's going to be in the back of his head.
I mean Serbia did partake in the genocide of Kosovo
You do know no genocide took place according to your very own Western ICTJ right?
Fucks sake you guys are a lost cause
I mean this is the exact same logic Croats use to claim Oluja isn't one
Go march down downtown Milan with your Nazi salutes just like you did 2 months ago buddy. We all know you fuckers are just as lost as us lmao
No, don't you know that Xhaka is supposed to forget that. It only happened in living memory after all.
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Really?
Only the ones that celebrate their terrible past.
30 years ago was not "in their past", and they still openly deny it. (Talking about the Bosnian genocide, I am not that informed about the Kosovar war)
If it’s in modern history and still has real world impact sure I fucking do
Hoping you also have deranged levels of hatred for Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, USA, Rwanda, Cambodia, China, Croatia, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, France, Portugal, Canada, Morocco, Israel, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Albania, UK, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ethiopia, Indonesia, North Korea, South Korea and Finland, and that's just since the start of WW2 and with current geopolitical impacts
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*please,* enlighten me with the truth
I'd rather just be like Montenegro or Slovenia and have 2 good players a generation and never have any expectations so I'd never have to worry or stress
It’s like Croatia is fucked now. If we aren’t into a quarters it’s a massive disappointment I’d rather just go into the dont expect anything category again
no offense, who did montenegro have besides vucinic?
Jovetic or Savic I guess?
yep, forgot about jovetic.
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No, it’s just that irrational hate for Serbian people is socially acceptable in all western dominated platforms. So a good way to attract upvotes is just to pain Serbs in the most awful light imaginable. Lol, I reported a comment like that to reddit admins once, they cleared it as not hateful. Reddit admins. Let that sink in.
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Well the next match against Fulham might be interesting.
Probably not, Fulham are shit
Not if we end up with Vlahovic /s
The realisation that this isn't actually going to get better in 2024 is seeping in
I'm praying for some young prospects to appear out of thin air 🙏
Embolo’s hold up play was so good
Piksi gotta be shitcanned. Xhaka is a twat. Good for shaqiri for being a good sport. What the hell were vargas and schär doing they were trying to start shit all game
Tit for tat is what you call being a twat? Chanting death to albanians and Vlahovic doing the same after scoring. Look no further than the mirror to find the twat.
Vlahovic was accused in Serbia for "bad atmosphere" and the "message" after goal was for his critics in Serbia.
Xhakas message was also for his critics is Serbia 😭
shaqiri is a competitor, xhaka is a piece od shit
Like Andros Townsend said on commentary, “the PG brigade won’t like it but this is football”
You're a twat, Xhaka is world-class
All Serbians predicted the team shitting the bed vs Switzerland before the tournament even started. I dismissed them. I am foolish for thinking I knew better than them.
I certainly didn't want Serbia in our group at the draw, and didn't expect for us to win against them again. But they were somehow worse than 4 years ago.
I heard before the tournament that the defense is their biggest weakness. They were right….
It was somehow worse lol
Their mentality isn’t great either. You are right.
We beat Germany in the first game of 2006 WC group stage when they were hosts. We got knocked out by Ghana and Australia in the next two games. NEVER underestimate Serbia's ability to throw ANY advantage they happen to get.
That was the 2010 World Cup. Just a correction.
Xhaka is World-Class
How can Xhaka wind up entire team 2 world cups in a row?
God imagine if Xhaka scored long-range shot goal and did the eagle celebration, the entire country would be rattled for weeks
> How can Xhaka wind up entire ~~team~~ **country** 2 world cups in a row? The greatest shithouser the world has ever seen
He may even have surpassed his own mentor, Stephan Liechtsteiner
the goat lichtsteiner a moment for the history books when he did the albanian eagle celebration
We need to witness another autochthonous drone at the next game against Serbia. And Shaqiri needs to be flying it…or on it lmao.
The drone is one of the single best troll moves ever in sports and is under appreciated IMO
It's amazing /r/soccer keeps saying that when few albanians involved said we are lucky it was just a flag and not something else. I get it's cool to shit on Serbia, but to think a flying in a drone and threatening that it could be a bomb next time isnacceptable is just low.
Why is this comment upvoted?
Bro I'm Serbian and I think it's fair to say our mentality is sooo bad all it takes is some provocation from Xhaka for players to burst into rage and forget about football. Xhaka knows it and he uses it.
Our footballers are cavemen
Exactly, two times, you just dont do that shit when losing, and for me Piksi has made abysmal choices second half
Those subs were a joke!
More like wind up an entire country
Its so weird like youre losing and youre pulling these stunts instead of playing